Recipes should include cleanup and prep time in the cooking time.Yea sure, it takes 30 minutes to cook this pasta dish, but it takes an hour to actually clean up and leave the kitchen sparkling before you can sit down and eat.
>>22024546clean while you cook RETARD ASS
>>22024572Even so, you're still left with quite a bit of cleanup AFTER the food is actually cooked.
>>22024572let's see you clean while you cook a carbonara
>>22024546>it takes an hour to actually clean upwhat the fuck? it shouldn't take you anywhere near that long.
>>22024546It should include prep time, and some recipes claim to include it but it's usually under estimated. Cleaning time would be dumb though, depending on your kitchen it could be as easy as sticking out in the dishwasher while others have to hand wash
>>22024546prep time definitely should be included in this, i don't know about cleanup. i normally just discard a bunch of dirty dishware around the kitchen and come back to in a few days/weeks>>22024572jokes aside as a newer cooker, unless you actually have everything down to a science already, which is unlikely if you're following a recipe, it's really hard to get to cleaning while you're making sure shit doesn't burn, undercook, or you miss the timing on something and ruin the dish
>>22024546the problem with wanting this is that everyone on the internet is addicted to posturing about everything.>everyone does everything in record time>everyone has the best gear>everyone uses the highest quality authentic ingredients>everyone makes the most delicious foodif you put 30 minutes of prep you WILL attract a horde of cocksuckers who'll go like "lmao 30 minutes? i can do that in 10 minutes you must be A LITERAL RETARD KILL YOURSELF IMMEDIATELY"and nobody wants to deal with that shit
>>22024546The fuck?Many recipes include prep time. Cleanup time is entirely dependent upon how quick and efficient you are.If you make a mess on the stove, spot clean as you go.Wash the knives, implements, cutting boards, etc. as the meal cooks.If you manage to plate everything, get soap and water into the pots and pans before serving. If not, remove from heat and allow to cool.Enjoy.Portion any leftovers. Soak or wash pots and pans as is sensible. Let the dishwasher - if present - deal with anything it can.Give your spot-cleaned stove and counter a spray and a good wipe/scrub as required.Like 10-15 mins extra for a serious meal for four, if you've burned things to the pots and absolutely have to wash everything by hand immediately.
> Yea sure, it takes 30 minutes to cook this pasta dish, but it takes an hour to actually clean upskill issue
>>22024594Clean knife and grater while pasta boils.Clean board while guanciale begins to cookUse pasta pot as double boiler while setting pasta and sauce.Serve. Rinse pot and pan, add soap, and either fill quickly or drip water in while eating. Five minute cleanup if you're hungover and crippled.
>>22024650yeah well in this case most of the cleanup is after the cooking is done, no?
>>22024632>It should include prep time, and some recipes claim to include it but it's usually under estimated.Seriously underestimated.The number of recipes I've done that claimed under 10min prep time just for me to spend over half an hour chopping vegetables is obscene.
>>22024658A rined and prepped pot and pan, with freshly used plate(s) and cutlery. Like I said, 5 mins if you're infirm.
>>22024546That's why 90% of my cooking involves oven baking of some kind, you've got down time while it's in the oven so when it's ready everything is already cleaned. Casseroles are great for this you just cook the individual ingredients then layer them in a big pyrex dish and throw it in the oven.Pizza, lasagna, sheet pan meals, meat loaf and savory pies are all great examples. If you can't clean all your pans and utensils in under 15 minutes you're the problem.
>>22024674Parchment, silpats, etc. also makes oven things super easy to clean... Pull the parchment. Maybe rinse or give a quick wash if it leaked a bit. Done.
>>22024546Yui on /ck/!
>>22024660nah dude that's crazy, wtf are you doing? I'm would consider myself pretty relaxed and slow going in the kitchen, and I haven't spent anywhere NEAR half an hour, let alone over that, chopping vegetables, even for something like a big pot of soup with tons of veggies. there is an element of practice to it, like you will pick up speed the more you work with a knife, and I don't expect beginner cooks to be speedy and prep shit in under 5 minutes. but you're doing something terribly wrong if it's taking you that long. like, are you using a butter knife or something. that's wild.
>>22024546So you just want for example:30 minutes cook time +prep + cleaning.Adding exact numbers for prep time and cleaning shouldnt get a number since different cooks are not as efficient as each other.
>>22024713Some things require a lot of veggies!
>>22024721sure. it still shouldn't take anywhere near that long. I cook big pots of soup with a ton of veggies, it's not taking me anywhere near half an hour. are you feeding a fucking village?
>>22024546>an hour to clean up the kitchen>>22024660>over half an hour chopping vegetablesHUHWhat the fuck are you people doing?
>>22024721Multiple of one thing? Cut them in pairs, threes, fours.One thing? Cut in half, quarters, then slice, dice, etc.There comes a point after murdering enough onions, celery, and carrots, that you just naturally become very efficient at it. This point comes much quicker when dealing with 50lbs at a time, but even just dealing with one carrot, one rib of celery, and two onions. Enough mirepoix and it becomes muscle memory.
Where the fuck am I supposed to by fennel out here in the sticks?
>>22024546It’s weird to me that online recipes have user ratings but not an average completion time
Start with a clean kitchen and an empty dish rack. Put chopped vegetables in bowls. Prepare everything before you start cooking. Now clean up the knives and boards. When you start cooking an ingredient comes out of a bowl and goes into a pan, then you rinse the bowl and put it in the dish rack. You’re only left with the dishes you used to cook. Be organised. If this is too hard for you to get figured out I will have to respectfully tell you to get fucked m8.
>>22024639Half the time the prep is my favourite part. I have a couple of drinks, maybe listen to some music. Then when it’s all done I don’t want to do the cooking part and just sit down for an hour and work up a buzz.
>>22024754Grow it.
>>22024741And? What if I'm not concerned about doing it quickly
>>22024913then don't complain about recipes not taking your deliberately slow ass into account for prep times, I guess.
>>22024546I definitely agree. The clean up time can be ridiculous. I wonder which country's cuisine has the least clean up?
>>22024935what are you guys doing that is taking so long to clean up? I don't get it. it takes like, a minute total to spray and wipe down the counter. no more than a few minutes to do the dishes, even by hand. maybe like 10-15 minutes max if you made a really involved meal with tons of dishes. which isn't an insignificant amount of time especially if you're tired, but I wouldn't go as far to say it's "ridiculous", plus stuff like that you should really be trying to clean as you go anyway. but like, a basic one pan meal? probably shouldn't be taking you much longer than 5 minutes or so to clean up. I don't know what you guys are doing.
>>22024935American. It’s all processed slop you assemble.
>>22024953Kids and women have absolutely zero organisational skills and lack efficiency. It’s as simple as that. They won’t think and will grab the wrong tool for the job then have to get another one, they’ll get a bowl that is far too small then have to grab a bigger one, they will spill shit everywhere because they’re not paying attention and they will just put all the dirty dishes in the sink and pile them up instead of rinsing them or giving them a quick clean with some suds.
>>22024959one of life's greatest joys is having a woman cook for you and do it well. i am truly sorry that you've never experienced that
>>22024704/ck/ - Cute Keions
>/ck/ - tranime
>>22024966The gf does simple things very well, but she is a god damned nazi in the kitchen - a completely different person than any other situation. She has no idea how I spent a decade working in one restaurant and can still show empathy while cooking, and have any creativity left to my food and plating.>"Can I help you with anything? Any prep? Dishes?">"Nope. Get the fuck out. You're already ruining my flow. Go watch your stupid space cowboys or whatever the fuck.">"Yes dear. Love you dear.">"Love you too, now fuck off."
>Recipes should include… prep time in the cooking time.They do, retard. >and cleanup Add five minutes then, retard. You are cleaning as you go, right? Right?!
>>22025100Who is this anime?
>>22025234Her name is Kotobuki "Mugi" Tsumugi.Her thing is she brings fancy tea and cake for her friends to enjoy after school.She is famous for stealing her friend's strawberry.
>>22025759psychopath behavior
>>22025154>watch your stupid space cowboysbased
>>22024546get yourself a woman, well worth not having to clean.
>>22024594It's not like you're making a big mess for that lol
>>22024572>clean while I cook>throw hot pan in water>it warps
>>22026418are you people being deliberately obtuse or what? you can leave the pan to clean later, most people would as they want to eat their food hot right out of the pan. the point of cleaning as you go isn't to end the session with a spotless kitchen, just to make use of downtime during cooking to minimize the amount of mess you have at the end. cleaning up stuff you used for prep, disposing of waste, wiping the counters etc while your food cooks. by the end you should pretty much just have your pan and the dishes you ate with to clean. and that takes, what? a few minutes?like seriously I can't tell if half the people itt are trolling or just retarded.
>>22026425nah. pan takes longer to clean if it coolsblast it with hot water
>>22026427I just let it soak while I do any other dishes and then it comes clean pretty easily. I use stainless steel. idk, never had an issue. can break out the steel wool if there's something really stuck on there but that's rare.
>>22024546>>22024572>>22024581>>22024594>>22024628>>22024639Y'all need a maid
>>22024572this is the way.rest of yall are fucking lame ass losers.easiest shit ever. what do you do sit and watch the rice cook? clean the fuck up.>>22024546this isnt true and youre gay, no offense to my homobros
