I have been trying to eat more vegetables. I was never really against vegetables but I would always eat them roasted or something. and usually not very many. I tried a basic salad the other day and it made me want to kill myself. I ate it and felt full I guess but I didn't feel excited to eat it or even happy to eat it. I am also autistic and certain food textures give my mind a lot of happiness I guess. For example, I love soggy cereal or soggy graham crackers soaked in milk or almond milk or something. However, cereal probably isn't super healthy and graham crackers probably also are not healthy? Just not sure what I can do. How do you normally eat your vegetables? Do you eat enough vegetables? I fucking hate salads man if I am being real with myself. But I eat them anyway because I want to be healthy.
>>22056934Just boil them and drown them in sauce.
>>22056934>soggy cereallet me open your mind to the greatness of a soggy crouton, my friend. what you wanna do is load your salad with sweet and flavorful things of different textures, like fresh shredded carrot, red onion, blue cheese, raisins, etc. then you wanna put the croutons on there and the dressing and toss it all up so the dressing is coating everything. then you let it kinda sit for a couple minutes. let those croutons soak up the dressing like a sponge. when you eat them theyll be a little crunchy but have some softness from the wet.this is how salad taste good.
>>22056934This is /r9k/ tier
>>22056934just make wrapless wraps. chicken ceasarbuffalo chickentunaegg
>>22056934>How to make salads without wanting to kill yourself?stop telling yourself a "salad" needs to be made of leafs. No human looks at a leaf and automatically wants to eat it. That's why you need to trick yourself by putting a ton of other shit on top of it.You can make a very nice salad of just diced tomatoes and cucumbers.
>>22056934look up a chicken caesar salad recipe. greek salad with lettuce is also great
>>22056934there are soo many kinds of salads, you just have to find a couple that you like. not all salads are just big bowls of leafy greens. try a greek salad, a beet salad, or a bean salad. try adding nuts, herbs, fruits, eggs. make your own dressings. there's almost infinite possibility, you just gotta dial in how you like it. if you really can't get into salads, just cook your vegetables. roasted vegetables are not any less healthy than a salad, why would they be? or sautee them in a bit of butter and lemon juice, steam em and toss em in sauce, make a vegetable soup or stew, make a quiche, or a stir fry...there's so many ways to eat vegetables.
>>22056934vegetable soup>throw veg in pot>add water until they're covered>bring to a soft boil/simmer>check up on them every few minutes>if they're bright green they're perfect - take them off the heat and let them cool down a bit>once they're not boiling hot, either stick an immersion blender in there, or ladle out batches into your blender>once blended, grate some cheese over the topadd spices to the veg before boiling them like cumin, cayenne, salt & pepper, garlic & onion powder, whatever you like. it helps if you melt some butter in the bottom of the pan first, throw your spices in that and stir for about 30 seconds, then add your prepared veg and water
>>22056942>>22056934>>>/r9k/
not gonna help your situation but the salad I like is>spring baby mix>flax oil, olive oil is pretty good too>feta cheese>grape tomatoes>pitted green olives>maybe a slice of 'chovie>avocado is nice too if it's around>sprinkle with oregano
>>22056965I thought boiling vegetables removes a lot of nutritional value? is that true?
>>22056964>roasted vegetables are not any less healthy than a salad, why would they be?certain vitamins like vitamin c are very susceptible to being destroyed by heat.
>>22056972boiling can remove certain nutrients from certain veggies but it doesn't render them nutritionless gruel by any means, but it depends. boiling potatoes removes a lot of potassium, so that may or may not be a good thing depending on your diet. for most people it's probably better to roast them to get the full amount. but that's just one example
>>22056971>wanna know how to make salad healthier and taste better?>drink oil
For me it's>lettuce or spring mix of some kind>bell pepper sliced or chopped>cucumber sliced or chopped>radish sliced>red onion sliced >cherry tomatoes halved but I usually don't because they make the salad too wateryDressing is>good olive oil>lemon or red wine vinegar >salt>pepper>good dried oregano >bit of chopped garlic>mix well And violia. A perfect and delicious salad every time. Sometimes I jazz it up with olives, pepperoncini, and fresh herbs I have around like parsley, dill, or basil. I eat that salad every night with dinner.
>>22056981and other nutrients are easier to absorb after cooking. ideally you should try to have a balance of raw and cooked vegetables, but eating more cooked vegetables than raw isn't going to hurt you in any meaningful way.
Find something green with fiber that you can stomach, and just eat a shitload of it alongside things you actually enjoy eating. For me it's broccoli.
>>22056984eating the salad with a little oil is better than not eating salads at all because they make you want to die
Just do a stir fry with carrot, onion and broccoli and meat of choice
>>22056984forgot to mention broccoli sprouts>drink oilyour lard ass probably does>>22056998that sounds tasty
>>22056934>I didn't feel excited to eat it or even happy to eat itwhy would this ever be a factor to you?
>>22056934>I want to be healthywhat you eat does not matter.
>>22057251>what you eat does not matter.the most retarded post this week, and we just started
>>22056934Why not eat sauteed greens instead of a cold salad? It really doesn't how you consume more greens, you could even just eat not of the vegetables you actually like to eat instead of giving yourself to eat salad. What roasted veg do you normally like?>>22056972If the nutrients boil out into the broth you're drinking anyway, it's no big deal>>22057251Being at a certain weight or muscle mass is not the same as being healthy.
>>22056934>Blanch shit instead in soup/chicken stock, wet salad>kimchi maxxingKale & Arugula. Former has the K2 in spades. If you want to get fancy, flash steam-blanch for 20s (like green teas are to lock in the good stuff). Have sweet white onions for texture. Do simple olive oil or vinagrette. Boiling and baking veg is trivial. Things like Asparagus are fast in a pan. Peppers grill up quickly if doing meat, and will have about the same time as a lot of baked fish.
>>22056984>fat is the devilit's 2029, anon, update your fad advice. Bet you don't like eggs either.
>>22057251>designed by celebritystopped reading after this
stop worrying about it so much I live off junk food and multivitamins every day and all my blood tests always come out fine.that said you don't need to eat them raw or in a salad. Some vegetables do lose some of their vitamins under high heat but you can easily get them from other sources. There are plenty of meals that use lots of vegetables and are also delicious like:Lemon pasta with kale.Peanut butter pasta with vegetables. Any veggie tastes good when it's covered in that peenut sauce.frittata.loaded sweet potato.mexican style corn in the microwave.pico de gallo. It stays good for a couple of days in the fridge and it's so good almost any savory meal.tuna salad3 bean saladvarious types of lentil salads
>>22056972You can just google "[vegetable] lose nutrients when cooked" and there'll be plenty of easy to read articles from good sources.For most vegetables, steaming and microwave is the healthiest way to cook them. Then boiling but since the nutrients leach into the water it's best to cook them in soup so that you end up drinking them anyway. Lettuce for example is fine if you add it to the pan as you're finishing cooking other foods. It'll wilt and lose most of it's flavor but still retain its nutrients.
>>22056966>>22056942fuck off
vinegar fixes saladssame with lemon juice
>>22057392When I had to be on a very restricted diet, salad with just lemon, olive oil, and a tiny bit of honey or maple syrup was actually so good
>>22057398your mom was so good
>>22056934A stir fry with a decent sauce makes most vegetables palatable, even if you don't really like their taste.
why do you need to eat salads
>>22056934You could try to make salad from roasted peppers, just roast them nice till their skin is black, place them in bowl and cover with some plastic so they peel easily. Clean them chop them up, maybe add some celery, dill, vinegar, you name it. Or you could go the good old cucumber, tomatoes and cheese, but this one isn't as soggy so you might not like the texture. Or maybe you could try to chop cabbage really fine, add salt and vinegar, and then to squeeze it a bit, it would make it more soggy.
Sliced tomato, salt, pepper.There, your salad is now palatable.
>>22056934Greek salad
>>22056934when it comes to food health salads arent that great. theyre very healthy in the micro sense. they provide a lot of flavnoids and other micro alive type stuff that your body benefits from having, but they are not really nutrient dense or anything. youre better off with liver and onions than salad if you had to pick one. I think you fundamentally misunderstand the point of a salad. you're better off having it as a side, a crunch bitter peppery salty bite to contrast something else that you are eating to reset your tastebuds for the next bite. think of it more like the ginger you get with sushi,
They key is the dressing. Just dump a bag of iceberg lettuce in a bowl with some croutons, one lazily chopped tomato and some shredded cheese of your choosing and then dump some vinagarette on it.
>>22057433> sleepy reading> my mom didn’t make the salad
>>22056984You already are drinking soybean oil when you order your fast food bullshit. Might as well have oil that's actually good for you.
>>22057251>trusting celebritiesThat's a big ol kek from me boss
>>22056934Look up a proper wedge salad and Caesar salad. Great textures there and I am ecstatic to eat them
>I am also autistic Really love this world we live in where you don't have to do anything you should be doing with the excuse "i'm autistic"Definitely is not going to backfire when you're fucking 300lbs frail skinned and unable to wipe your own ass all because you didn't want to eat a piece of fucking broccoli.>nuhhh uhhh im autistic *shits pants*>"whew, thank god i didn't have to eat a cucumber :)"
>>22056934In poland we have mizeria, it's pretty good https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizeria And this pic related vinegar jar salad which I don't think has any official name. You put slices of various vegetables in a mix of water, vinegar and some sugar and let it stay in basement for weeks or months and it comes of really juicy and soft.Other than that, I generally hate salads. I much rather eat raw carrot, radish, cucumber, tomato and lettuce. I don't get salads, they ruin the taste and experience by adding random shit and sauces aka dressing. Just eat the raw veggies. Or make them part of the dish, be it a soup, stir fry noodles, curry, etc.
>>22057897Hey retardHe’s not using it as an excuse to not do something, this whole thread is about doing it anyway just more enjoyable
>>22057256>>22057270>>22057288>>22057853the lazy just out themselves now.
You can consume vegetables in other ways, OP. I prefer steamed potatoes, carrots, and squash. If leafy greens, iceberg lettuce, and cabbage aren't your thing then don't eat salads.
>>22056934A salad is just a salted dish. You can have a meat salad, a fish salad or a vegetable salad. You can have it cold, lukewarm or hot. It's the oldest dish around. You can find it in Ancient China, Egypt, Greece and Rome.You don't need leafy greens. There are plenty of potato salads in Germany. You don't need dressing or sauce. It's basic ingredient + salt.The key to a good salad, is getting both the salt and the basic ingredient right. There are different tiers of salt, from Japanese to Trapani, then Norwegian, then French and British sea salt. Himalayan and kosher salt are irrelevant.Equally important is your produce, how it was farmed, which variety it is and what the weather conditions are. Artichokes are best in spring after a period of frost. Cauliflower is best in May. Tomatoes in July and August. For Belgian endives and radicchio it's end of year. Cabbage needs frost.You should be making asparagus salads now. You pair them with rocket, not cilantro. They don't need dressing. You're wasting your time, money and effort.
>>22056934You need to experiment with dressings, toppings, different spices, proteins, etc. What do you even like? Spicy? Sweet? Salty? I can easily make you like ten different salads if you just let me know what the hell you even like to eat lmao
>>22058219or just go with the ranch build, that's always safe
>>22056934You don't need salads op just have Salmon and spinach and you'll get all your micronutrients or whatever. Salads are very overrated health wise.
>>22058972your mom is overrated health wise
>buy a giant bag of frozen vegetables>learn to cook rice>combine both with some seasoning (salt being a bare minimum)There you go, you just made fried rice. You can add more vegetables but ultimately, its an easy way to eat your veggies daily.
>>22058976I don't see egg and spam in that ingredient list>>>/trash/
>imagine not making savory pickled food that's good for you>imagine not learning how to make tasty veggie side dishes>imagine not making soups that have a lot of veggies in them>imagine not eating those soups with a salad on the side>imagine imagining ngmi
>>22058975Your mom is overrated heredity wise.
>>22056942too many fat americans are cluttering /ck/
>>22056934I always outsource my vegetables and fruit preparation to my gf, when she's not around I don't eat them until I start experiencing sympthoms of malnutrition, then I just go and grab a bunch of khalrepi and tangerines and eat them for a few days.
>>22056934>>22059720No wait, I do sometimes eat asparagus and spinach. Also cucumber and previously mentioned khalrepi. So I mostly eat vegetables that can be served raw without any preperation or some super simple preperation like boiling asparagus for a few minutes.
>>22059022your mom is overrated overrated wise. how you gonna rebuttal against that, big guy?
>>22059720manchild
>>22060171I do the same thing with my protein intake to my bf
>>22060171>>22060177See? It's a symbiosis.
