none of that faggot whiskey stuff editionPrevious bread: >>22110929Topics of note:Gen Z doesn't drink, distilleries going out of businessLagavulin concedes Laphroiag is better, film at 11Cognac vs. Armagnac - which suits your palette?
Spec's Wines, Spirits & Foods run. They have a lot of shit Total Wine doesn't. I'm pretty well covered between those two stores here.
I’m a total snob when it comes to drinking whisky neat but if I’m mixing it with soda etc I’m reaching for the cheapest stuff on the shelf. I really can’t taste any kind of downgrade at that point
>>22152265my friend adores that Laphroiag lol. all he drinks, not interested in anything else.booze club im in is about to release a pick of 50 year armagnac from Oade for $350... not sure what to think yet but... love cognac
>>22152265>paletteKek. You thick cunt.
heyyyyyyyyy gurls
>>22152673ngl this is really good mixed with ginger ale (preferably Vernor's)
>>22152265Laphroaig is smokey but pretty smooth. Many friends who usually don't drink whisky prefered it over other ones for that reason. >>22152673Is the orange flavour as strong as in curacao or triple sec and also sugared?
>Laphroaig is pretty smooth
>>22152753
>>22152753Yes, it genuinely is. It's sweet too. Does that embarrass you, drinking something that's sweet and smooth? Does that hurt your manhood?
>>22152747>Is the orange flavour as strong as in curacao or triple sec and also sugared?They say it's "naturally flavored," no clue if that's true or not but it's definitely not as overpowering a flavor as triple sec or curacao
got invited to a whiskey tasting tomorrow. i know just what to bring
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Drinking Glenmorangie 12 rn, this shit is flavorless
>>22153185I've fucking warned y'all about the 404 Flavor Not Found.
>>22152265None of my family will tolerate a smoky scotch unless it has vikingslop/celtslop on it (looking at you ardbeg)
https://www.whiskybase.com/en-the-bottom-100Take your pick, anon
>>22153233Surprised at the knob creek smoked maple. Not surprised by the Icelandic sheep dung malt. Haven’t tried either
>>22152265Jim Beam anyone? It's pretty good.
>>22153233I am shocked to see Evan Williams not on there.Old smoky probably shouldn’t count because they are more like sweetened spirits than whiskey.Canadian club will never be “good” but they are not horrible so they will be my choice
>>22153244>Surprised at the knob creek smoked mapleI'm not. That shit is disgusting. It was like 5 years ago when I bought it and if I wasn't so poor/alkie at the time I'd have poured it out, and I almost never pour out any alcohol
>>22153244>>22153251I actually really, really like the Knob Creek Smoked Maple. I have never liked another flavored whiskey but I like it a lot.I like smoke and I like maple. Yes, it's sweet. I like sweet things.
>>22153267I like sweet things too, but whiskey should not taste like syrup. More power to you though
>>22153251Only booze I've ever poured out was a HEAVILY sulfured Glenmorangie Nectar D'or. From sulfur candles. Rotten eggs. Fucking nasty.Even mixing with Laphroaig didn't cover it up.
>>22153271I mean, it's 90 proof so it's considerably less syrupy than your average 70 proof flavored whiskey.But yes it is quite sweet. I don't think of it as whiskey as much as I think of it as something I like the flavor of.
>>22152265Trying to get into peaty shit, started with the basic options because that's what the bar next door had. (Laphroaig 10 and Lagavulin 16). Lagavulin has a genuinely pretty bottle (I like the pill shaped label thing their designers came up with) but too smooth and not peaty enough (and I hate their Offerman bullshit and don't want to reward it). Laphroaig was good, I like the iodine+smoke combination. Now, what can I get that is like Laphroaig 10, but NCA, NCF and ideally from an independent distiller without all the corporate special release/limited edition/travel exclusive bullshit? (The strength I don't have that much preference for, Laphroaig's 40 was good enough for me.)
>>22153300Kilchoman Machir Bay.
>>22153311Why NAS though?
>>22153324Age is not necessarily a desirable thing with heavily-peated whiskies. Age blunts the peatiness.I prefer Machir Bay to Laphroaig 10.
>>22153324>>22153372Also, Machir Bay has a lovely citrus (tastes kind of how lemon oil smells) note to it which specifically comes from the young whisky in it.Kilchoman's own marketing mentions the citrus note, so the inclusion of young whisky to add that note is obviously intentional. The whisky has the flavor profile that is desired by Kilchoman, and the inclusion of the young whisky is necessary to obtain that flavor profile.
>>22153372I agree with you, but I'd rather the distillery tell me if it's 6,8, 10Y or something higher.
>>22153376Let's say, hypothetically, most of that whisky is around 10 years old, but they intentionally include some, even a small amount, of three or four year old whisky in it in order to add/enhance that citrus note.If they were to give it an age statement, it'd need to say three or four years old.At this point, it becomes a marketing decision. Do they feel they will sell more whisky by giving it a 3-4 year age statement, or by going NAS?I would assume that almost any company would decide the latter. I would assume that almost any company would not have any confidence that consumers would be sophisticated enough to realize:>the potential value in adding some young whisky to older whisky>the relatively lesser importance of age for a heavily peated whisky compared with other whiskyArdbeg was brave as FUCK to release Wee Beastie with a five year age statement. I can't say that was wise. It was brave and morally upstanding, but I can't say it was wise business.
>>22153388Yeah I guess you do have a point. I suppose the really honest way for an Islay distillery would be to respect the rules and give the youngest as the top line age statement, but elsewhere on the bottle release the full bill a-la:> 4% 5 Y/o, Refill Sherry, French Oak> 20% 8 Y/o Refill Bourbon, American OaketcBut I am not sure anyone in the scotch business does that, that would be almost "open source cola" territory.
>>22153397Yeah I can't see that level of transparency being beneficial from a business perspective.
>>22152672OP here, I knew I could get someone to seethe and dilate if I did that. :-)
lol fuckerjus njoying my retarded 30iq duped chumped trickass mark, marketing ruse rugpull bottletasty vanilla n heat
>>22153388>It was brave and morally upstanding, but I can't say it was wise business.Honestly I think it makes perfect sense. Basically, if you want to try Ardbeg, you'd want to try the 10 or An Oa first to get a sense of if you like the brand and what they do. [spoiler]On that topic, I feel like An Oa is massively underrated and basically comes off as a lighter Uigeadail/Corryvrekan, which I find greatly agreeable.[/spoiler]Wee Beastie's marketing is clear, this is the stuff you buy if you specifically want something strong and not too 'tamed' by age, so they want people to not buy that first up and go, oh this Ardbeg stuff is thick and harsh as fuck, I'm not bothering with their other stuff, which would likely happen if it just looked like the most cheap and entry level bottle on the shelf.
>>22153612my problem with the Wee Beastie is partly the price/branding, but also the severe batch quality issues Ardbeg have had in recent years/close to a decade. they priced it only $10 less than a 10 year single malt staple. it needs to be cheaper. they capitalized on the boom. maybe now they'll do a Wee Beastie cask strength or a sequel to Ardbeg Blaaack. LVMH doesnt seem to do much finishing with red wine. Probably better to go the independent bottler route for that stuff anyway the price would be stupid.
Wee Beastie was my first peated scotch and I thought it was pretty good
>>22153687my first heavily peated Islay single malt was Ardbeg 10. while it was unique, once I tried Laphroaig I was confident I was a fan.
>>22152453use better soda and better technique
>>22153233>Jim Beam white label is so bad we listed it twice>Old Crow not on the list
>>22154103I mean anything that comes in a plastic bottle should be reviled by default, much less whiskey.
>>22154237$10 plastic handles of vodka are perfectly fine and even a logical purchase if you're mixing.You ain't tasting the difference if you're mixing.
>>22154321its $10 handle vodka. you're not losing quality at that point. watering down everclear is more cost effective if you're at that stage.
Tonight’s lineup:- Balvenie 15 Madeira- Knob Creek 9 120 proof- Whisky n coke w/ OF86- Oktoberfest beer to finish
anyone see this anywhere yet?
>>22154519do beer first
>>22154535My local taters are finely tuned hunting machines, I’d have a better chance grabbing a slab of beef from a pack of hyenas than stumbling across something like this
I went to the Angels Envy distillery for a tour, was pretty nice. The Rye one tasted like maple syrup
>>22154625it is tiresome
>>22154535The word (at least from reddit so take with a grain of salt) is they had it for sale at the distillery but took it off the shelf for a september release to line up with other markets
>>22154872wack. was told mid sept at retailers. me want now. ripthis stuff is mid. need yum
Wow did I make a horrible mistake.I didn't quite finish off my glass of whiskey and left it sitting on my desk overnight. This morning I grabbed the glass and figured I'd drink the remaining eighth of an inch or so.EWWWWWWWWWWWWW. All the alcohol and most of the flavor evaporated overnight. What was left was yellow-orange-ish water that tasted fucking awful.
>>22154988you didnt cover it? I've left my glass out overnight(s) while covered and it's fine. after 48 hours is too long. might be the humidity or air conditioning.
>>22154988bro drank his piss cup
>>22154988Kek, been there.
>>22152265>Gen Z doesn't drink, distilleries going out of businessNo tengo dinero, gringo.
>>22152265as someone who's never had any japanese whiskey what would you recommend and rank?
>>22155040You can start with something like Tenjaku blended which is basically an entry mixer. Perfect for highball.
>>22155040Note that there is a lot of fake japanese whisky out there that is blended from non-japanese whiskies
iduuno i’m retard thought whatever ABV is the highest %
>>22155040hakushu 18 year
>>22155130That's bullshit. Whoever tried to drink 96% alcohol will know. That shit dries out your whole mouth and throat in an extremely unpleasant way.
>>22155040ironically the nigga whiskey from the hood is not a bad entry point. wouldn't use it as a mixer, though.
>>22154399>watering down everclear is more cost effectiveI don't know what it's like in other states but when I used to live in California, where they only get the watered down Everclear and it's sold at fucking rape prices, that was absolutely not the case.
>>22155040herd the sakura cask lid stuff has legit tongue latch potency
>>22155286OK just checked Total Wine here in Texas. 190 proof Everclear is $31.99 for a handle.That's absolutely not more cost effective than a $10 handle of 80 proof vodka.The equivalent amount of alcohol in the form of 80 proof vodka would be valued at $23.75 assuming a $10 handle.
>>22155267>wouldn't use it as a mixer, thoughnot good enough?
>>22155350Not him but:>it's too expensive to mix with>it's a very complex whisky as opposed to a whisky that punches your tongue hard with a strong, distinct character, so all that complexity would be lost in a mix and it wouldn't add any character to a mix
>>22155291sensible chuckle
>>22155355just say you're not good at mixology>it's too expensive to mix withthe opportunity cost of not experimenting with the whiskey is greater than the cost of a dram>missing complexityevery single sip doesn't have to be a master class in tasting with no missed detail>wouldn't add any character to a mixI guess if we're making "mixed drink" like college kids, and not proper cocktails
>I practice mixology>I'm a mixologist
>>22155286Same in Germany. That shit is used for extracts or self-made liqueurs so they know people have to/will pay for it. The cheapest vodka is also rectified to the legal maximum (far beyond 90%) and just watered down so it shouldn't be more expensive. Not even alcohol tax which is calculated by abv. justifies the price if you relate it to regular swill.
>>22155366did I say a nono word? do you have a lot of nono words that trigger you?
>>22155373You mean like a safeword? 'Cos your mum's is "kumquat."
>>22155371I wish ~95% ethanol was as cheap and readily available as it should be for what it is.It's so fucking useful in many ways aside from drinking it.Like, it's gotta be a safer/superior disinfectant than isopropyl because it just involves inhalation of ethanol fumes rather than isopropyl fumes.
>>22155009Tasted like it.
>>22155350I supposed it's a Johnnie Walker Black situation. Very entry, but still should be drunk straight or on the rocks as there are others you could use for mixing.
>>22155382My mother brought me from a tax free island. 10€ for 1 l of 96% alcohol. You obviously can't buy as much as you want if that stuff. I just use it for chemical purposes or desinfection (you have to water it down to 70% though).
>>22155384This post is incorrect, as one should never drink Johnnie Walker, straight, on the rocks or mixed.
just bought some good diageo juice
>>22155637Nice I got a bottle of Talisker 8 year “tidal churn” I got saved for Labor Day weekend
Almost all Diageo whisk(e)y is terrible and overpriced but Balcones is actually based.As much as I don't want to give Diageo money, giving based Texans money balances it out and every single one of their whiskies is a massive flavor bomb because they're aged in high heat conditions.
>nigga whisky from the hood in the wild in TexasHope this shit isn’t just a meme but I know it is.
>>22155758I genuinely didn’t know it was a real thing. Neat.
>>22155719oh hell yeahbeen itching to grab a budget bottle, it's like a guilty pleasure of mine, so I got some bulleit rye. first bulleit produce i've had in like 10 years. just cause I saw that it uses the 95% rye mgp juice while most budget ryes seem to be barely legal. tastes about as expected
>>22155378Lost.jpg
well this is fukn deliciouswhat a relief its not mid, cost me 400 bucks. now i want that old master distiller one the dorks obsess over
>>22156592are you ok? blink twice if someone is forcing you to use that cringe glass
>>22155758>>22155809It ain't.
>>22155040Toki is a good one if you’re making cocktails goes really well with soda water or tea
>>22156592>I really fucking want that bottle>I'll never see one>It would kill my soul to spend that much on a bottle of whiskeyMaybe someday I'll stumble upon a bottle of Master's Keep Beacon, it's supposedly almost as good and cheaper, or maybe a Russell's 13
>>22155040i will also say that nikka whisky from the barrel is great. one of the best price/quality ratios you could possibly get in a whiskey.
>>22155040I swear my brother got me a bottle of Hibiki 12-year in 2014 for like $60 and now everything I can find on it (which isn't much) says it's minimum like $180 but it's only available in duty-free shops and other versions go for $300-$500. For all the shit that the bourbon price inflation (rightfully) gets, it's got nothing on Japanese whisky
just got a handle of some old crow
>>22156895well idc much either way but knowing it maybe annoys a stranger a little makes me chuckle n use it againcomfy shape n has handy measurement lines on the back, im easy
>>22157108beacon would be great i nearly went for that myself once.having never had a rr13 the foil really impresses. cherry cola and drinks below its proof, its so nice!
https://warosu.org/ck/thread/22062633#p22091261Late reply. I've had several drams of it and have tried to give it a fair, thorough evaluation.So, this Nikka Whisky From the Barrel is just not my thing. I like big, bold flavors. This does not have them.It's quite delicate for 51.4 percent alcohol. It's the kind of whisky NPCs will taste and go "OMG IT'S SO SMOOOOOOOOOOOOTH FOR 51 PERCENT."I've read people describe it as sherry-forward and it's absolutely not. It's closest to a delicate bourbon barrel-aged Speyside or even Lowlands. Just a teeny, tiny, barely fucking there wisp of peat smoke.Supertasters may like this more than I do. Supertasters may taste something different in every sip because it's literally a blend of over 100 whiskies.I just taste weak ex-bourbon barrel flavor and extremely weak peat smoke. I am not a supertaster, nor am I a smoker.I don't think it tastes bad. I like how it tastes. It has a pleasant, if weak vanilla/slightly fruity sweetness to it with a hint of smoke. I'm enjoying the dram I'm having of it right now.It's not something I'll buy again. Give me an intensely flavorful sherry bomb or peat bomb over this any day of the week.
>>22157235Also the bottle fucking sucks and it's challenging to only pour whisky in the glass.
>>22156926It’s nikka whisky from the barrel. It’s a real thing.
>>22157235This post reeks of reddit. I thought it was alright. Not great, not terrible. Pleasant enough. It’s not scotch, it’s jap. Jap liquor tends to be inoffensive, which is a far improvement over how utterly awful it used to be.
>>22157108Drink the $45 rare breed and be happy nigga
ah shit i dont like the HK as much now. was my favorite bourb ever til tonight
OF10 is perfectly fine until u drink it against the hard to find stuff then it kinda stinks. rip :(
>>22157152Yes, Japanese whisky became very trendy and overhyped, leading to inflated prices and a lot of fake Japanese whiskey trying to ride the trend
>>22152265I tried two different variants of this, one I didn't like as it was too intense and I'm only just getting into the world of whisky and thought myself a peat-lover. The second was slightly mellower which made a huge difference and I polished off the bottle in no time
Is this any good? I live near Filey so I want to support them, but only if it's not total slop
>>22157667Oh I plan to
>>22158012Are you happy anyway or do you just expect to be made happy by your new beverage?
>>22157202ya, I hear that same argument made by every faggot using a trip
>>22158094jus angry a lot eh. drink more maybe
>>22158097kek
>Go to local Binnys last Friday before my brother's wedding to try and find a nice little extra gift to give>Were just putting out their Allocated BT drop>Weller 12, Weller 107, and Stagg all at MSRP>Only one bottle allowed to be bought>After talking to the Manager he allows me to buy one of each so I could give to my brotherA fun night was had by all.
>>22158104Wow you got some mediocre crap at msrp. Congrats anon.
>>22158219many states still don't see those easily
>wheated or low-rye mashbill bourbonInto the trash it goes.
>>22158219I have never had them and certainly have never seen them available for MSRP so I thin it's worth it.
>>22152265How does it compare to quarter cask?
>>22158104Nice. Hope he enjoyed them.
>>22158248posting about finding allocated at msrp pretty much guarantees sour grapes replies
>>22158219BT still has its own distillery profile I would pay for a stagg at msrp but not more
>>22152265I'm not exactly a big drinker but I tried Nikka Frontier when I was out with some friends recently and I've been enjoying making highballs out of it.
who drinkin
>>22158581lol true
>>22159171gentle beer and a few glasses of wine tonight. plowed through some jamerson black and triple cask the other day. was not impressed by either tho i like basic jamerson just fine. time for a short whiskey break.
>>22159257sounds comfy, yes take it easy for a bit. bad whiskey will put anyone off that is for surenight boys
Am I poorfag coping or just not the right age or is single source rarely all that good compared to a nice blend?Like I totally understand doing this with grape or fruit distillate where you might choose stuff from a single hill but grain enters the fermenter already so emulsified it feels performative.
>>22159354>blends some arent bad, but blends are heavily diluted and packaged as cheap as possible, so the blend is not that nice considering even a basic single malt mid shelfer is going to be a large step up in purity of flavor so long as you dont go drowning it with ice or mixing with coke.
>>22155040Anyone tried Hibiki Harmony? Thoughts?
>>22159362it's a crowd pleaser, good for guestshere in online whiskey culture where get down to the nitty gritty of cost versus enjoyment, it gets a C
>>22159354>or is single source rarely all that good compared to a nice blend?You're a massive fucking tastelet if this is what you think.
Anyone know anything about Cadenhead's Enigma? Bought a bottle a few years ago in Scotland, wondering if it's any good and what it is.Got exact picrel
>>22152265>distilleries going out of businessMoonshine. Start doing that.
>>22159171Drinkin a cynar spritz
>>22160394cynar wtf? you wild man. will have to try itsippn this local club thing... iz güd
This Dettling is actually pretty good. The chocolate malt they use in the mash bill gives it a nice chocolatey, almost leathery note that goes really nicely with the rye spices, while the oats give it a nice body. My initial impression was that the oats and specialty malts imparted a little too much of a “crafty” flavor, but I’ve grown to like it.Overall, I’m honestly pretty happy I purchased this 6-year rye for $300 + shipping. It's somewhat overpriced but you can't get this anywhere else.
>>22160656please tell me you already have a closet full of expensive guitars
if u like semisweet chocolate n unsweetened black coffee, you will likely love dettlingDettling is fun but pretty one-note so its hard to grow and try new things with them
Just made a martini and I tell you what, this is entirely too much gin. Think I'm sticking to whiskey.
>>22161028Dry Martinis are the cocktail with the most unwarranted prestige. There' so much more interesting stuff you can make with gin.
>>22161028The Martini is just an excuse to drink pure gin.
On a related note I never quite understood the Old Fashioned either unless you A. Don’t like the taste of whisky but B. Want to drink a full glass of it for some reason
>>22161028>>22161446"""dry martinis""" where you just add an unnoticable drop of vermouth are a modern retardation, traditional martinis are supposed to be like 2 parts gin to one part vermouthalso, gin and tonic is kind of better tbqh
>>22161451They taste good. What's to understand?That's like saying you don't understand toast with butter and jam unless you don't like bread but want to eat an entire slice of it for some reason.
so we can all agree that japanese whiskey yes even the genuine ones are a fucking meme just like those expensive denim
total whisky noob here. what should I try if I had these:>Jim Beam Whitenot bad with ice, kind of tastes like vanilla ice cream. kind of harsh without ice>Evan Williams Black Labeldefinitely better than the Jim Beam, more flavorful and thicker>Jim Beam Black 7 Yearlike a slightly better version of the Evan Williams. more nutty and maybe thicker>Johnnie Walker Black Labelmy favorite so far. I like the slightly smoky flavor and it's very mellow and easygoing>Monkey Shoulderfruity kind of like pear. chocolaty, peppery. not bad but maybe not a favorite/>Tullamore DEWheavy on the green apple. green apple in caramel. slightly harsh, but the distinct flavor profile is fun, it's like eating candy
>>22161464Kind of. Some it is very good, and the mizunara and umeshu casks used impart some pretty unique flavors, but prices literally doubled a few years back when it got popular, no longer buy.
>>22161477Try some of the bottle in bond bourbons, Old Grand Dad, Dickel, etc. Cheapish, good, a step up in intensity from all of those.
>>22161477Try a Scotch with medium peat. Port Charlotte 10 is a good choice. It says heavily peated, but it's medium. The peat and the oak are really well balanced and it's a fantastic babby's first substantially peated whisky.
>>22160687No that would be stupid and wasteful.>>22160779I agree that dettling hits those flavor notes. But I think they have a lot of potential once they start putting out stuff sgef longer than 4-6 years
>>22161477>$20-$30 tier Wild Turkey 101, Old Grandad 114, Knob Creek>$40-$50 tierRussell's Reserve, Rare Breed, Four Roses Small Batch Select, Old Forester 1920
Been drinking less Whisky of late since its not as pleasant to drink during the hot summer months. My house decanter I fill up with the Kirkland 12 year blended scotch. Pretty good for the price an excellent game night or well rounded dinner scotch for the colder months.
>>22161477I’m going to second George Dickel, specifically bottled in bond. There’s a few variations but commonly it’s 13 year. It should range from $30 to $45 (typically closer to the lower end of the range) it would be a new flavor profile as it has the aged bourbon notes. Severely underrated probably because the name evokes “penis”.I also feel like if you like JW black you should like it. Instead of minor peat it’s aged oak but they kind of play the same role in rounding out the flavor
>>22161666>I’m going to second George Dickel, specifically bottled in bond. There’s a few variations but commonly it’s 13 year. It should range from $30 to $45 (typically closer to the lower end of the range) it would be a new flavor profile as it has the aged bourbon notes. Severely underrated probably because the name evokes “penis”.Is the "Flintstone vitamin" mineral flavor thing with Dickel a meme? I've never had it>also checked, Satan
DAMN this is a great rye (Middle West Dark Pumpernickel).
>>22161733I think it does have some merit. In my opinion less so in the aged dickels which the BiB is. To me it comes across more like the water they use has a limestone minerality to it…which I’m pretty sure is literally the case hence the flavor. “Some “merit because I think there is a distillery characteristic that leans towards it, but it’s more of a meme. It’s not that dominant of a note and sometimes unnoticeable unless you convince yourself which is what I think people do
Had another lil drinkypoo of some rare perfection 10 (batch 7) tonight. It's really good, like drinking syrupy cherry leather and oak with an amazing finish.
>>22161451make an OF with some hurst knoll and youll see
>>22161733my dumb friend calls it pickle juice. some just have overly sensitive pussified broken mouths. like the subhumans that cant enjoy cilantro because it tastes "like soap."sucks to be them
>>22161493Not that available here in the EU, closest we get to cheap 50% bourbon is Wild Turkey 101 (costs more than Johnnie Black, but I might buy it at some point)>>22161558Yeah that's what I've been thinking of. Maybe Talisker 10 or Highland Park too, those are not too expensive >>22161666I'll check if it's available here
>>22161633I've been drinking gin and tonics instead. Perfect refreshing cocktail that takes no effort to make and actually has some flavor complexity to itDoesn't even need fancy gin, perfectly nice with some Beefeater
>>22162607>Maybe Talisker 10 or Highland Park too, those are not too expensiveThose are both good starting points for getting into peated whisky. Port Charlotte is excellent, and as anon mentioned it's not that heavily peated compared to Laphroaig or Ardbeg, but it's still an Islay, and those have certain characteristics you may not like compared to other peated scotch.
>>22162607>Maybe Talisker 10 or Highland Park tooNo, those are bad.
>>22162960They're Diageo shit, so filtered and colored, bit they're good intros to non-Islay peated scotch. Are we gonna go tell this guy to go get independent bottlings of Mortlach or Ardmore? I mean,ok, but he's not gonna have that available.
NTA but Talisker 10 was my first tru love
>>22162639>Port Charlotte is excellent... but it's still an Islay, and those have certain characteristics you may not like compared to other peated scotch.One thing that stood out to me about Port Charlotte was its lack of "weird" or "off" notes you'll find in other Islays like the vegetal/iodine/bandaid notes.It's pretty much just straightforward smoke and oak in a 50/50 balance.Talisker has more "weird" or "off" notes than PC and Highland Park is just weak relatively flavorless garbage.
>>22162429I think Wild Turkey 101 Rye tastes like pickle juice, in a good way.It's obviously not sour like pickle juice, but it absolutely has some flavors in it that are similar to the spices found in pickle juice.The pickle juice comparison is a common one for many rye whiskies, and some people aren't using it as an insult to the whiskey.
>>22162979We know, Diageo shill. You used to spam threads about it until you got banned a billion times for it.
>>22162983>One thing that stood out to me about Port Charlotte was its lack of "weird" or "off" notes you'll find in other Islays like the vegetal/iodine/bandaid notes.To me this is just the bruichladdich characteristic. Basically all of their stuff is good but they have this “perfectly machined” feel to their products. It’s a positive and a negative. It’s most obvious in their gin actually, botanist. They have all these meme botanicals and the end result is quite balanced but it lacks any big unique notes. Because these are spirits and not say, furniture, I appreciate their style. Because imo it’s easier and lazier to be unique but poorly made rather than uniform but well made. Both are better than uniform and poorly made obviously
>>22163060How funny you mention their gin. A friend of mine who doesn't know anything about scotch brought it to a D&D session I was at. It was good (for gin, which I hate)
>>22162995I’ve never once been banned on /ck/ and am not affiliated with diageo in any way shape or form. That being said, Talisker 10 is a great entry point into the world of whisky and a bottle that I recommend to anyone
>>22163060Yeah I opened a bottle of Bruichladdich 18 for my birthday this summer and my thoughts are similar. I can understand their philosophy is all about “burning local” and being eco friendly and all that good stuff but it just results in a very basic flavor profile. You really need to be an extreme whisky purist to fully appreciate it
>>22161451my old fashioneds are more like seasoned whiskeyi'm far beyond the stage of wanting to taste everything neat every single timeif you were talking about whiskey sours then yeah, that's a fair assessment. but making an old fashioned you have a lot of variables you can tweak. it's funmanhattans are godly too. get an expensive bottle of sweet vermouth, a bar spoon, and a clear ice mold, you'll see the light soon enough
>>22162985sure. this friend certainly is though. he despises it
my local just got in an Impex bottling of 10 year old cask strength(56.7%) Kilchoman fully matured for 10 years in Olorosso sherry for $129.99+ 10% tax. not sure about that compared to Loch Gorm 10 year at $96.99. I've only had the standard Machir Bay so far, but I also want to try a cask strength Kilchoman and that's rare around here anymore.
>>22162985The pickle juice flavor is dill you tastelet retard.
>>22164120I'm sure it's very good and it's getting rave reviews but there's no goddamn way I'm paying $200 for a 10 year old bourbon
https://redwoodempirewhiskey.com/straight-whiskies-blend/https://www.kooperswhiskey.com/product/texas-oak-bourbonAnons here are some interesting and new MGPslop releases which you can pre order now.
>>22164366yep understood i totally get it, so next time you see it for 200 pls tell me immediately
>>22164466>tater retards are willing to pay FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS for a 10 year bourbon from a craft distillery yeah I knew that already and if you want to waste your money do your own fucking legwork
>>22164926fuckin fucks! bwharrr!have a drink bud
>>22152673This swill is fucking abysmal. My brother (he has infantile taste) once brought some to a family gathering and it was so nasty I didn't get past one sip.
>>22165856lol. i saw jim beam white label with pineapple flavoring minibottles attached to the neckits grim
>>22158249Every one of Laphroaig's numbered bottlings is different. The 2011 #003 was/is fantastic. It tastes like there's a campfire in your mouth and all the girls are dancing around it naked.The #16 tasted like they burned a bunch of creosote-covered railroad ties and then dumped the ashes in.
>>22152673>>22165856I really don't get who buys these
>>22152324I'm a mick that's over in Texas for a project with work.Just finished a night shift and went to Specs to see what Islay's they had and the place is closed.Turns out you can't sell liquor on Sunday in Texas.
Today I picked up a store pick Four Roses OBSV and its pretty damn good. The other day I also opened up a Old Forester barrel strength, another pick from this same store, and it's an amazing vanilla bomb. It's always nice to find a store with reliable good picks. I have another Four Roses pick that was done by some local bourbon group and it's trash.
Recommend some shit for a beginner who doesn't want to pay above 25$. I tried a tiny thing of Maker's Mark and thought it tasted like gasoline. Tried both straight and on the rocks. What got me interested in whiskey was trying a glass of toki at a Japanese restaurant for the shits and giggles and didn't realize whiskey could taste like more than just "BUUUURRRRN." It was pretty floral and complex.I was looking at getting some George Dickel No.12 from a friend's recommendation. Do you guys have any suggestions?
>>22166709If you liked flavorless trash like Toki you'll probably like Jameson.Faggot.
>>22166709Under $25 is tough, even from the bourbon side. As I posted earlier, WT 101, OGD 114, and also maybe Evan Williams Bonded are about as good as you can get at that price point, maybe Benchmark Full Proof if you aren't a pussy
>>22166709Scotch recs: Glenmorangie 10Bruichladdich Laddie
>>22166725>if you aren't a pussyThey are. They thought Maker's Mark, one of the "smoother," more noob-friendly bourbons, tasted like gasoline.WT101 and OGD114, while excellent bourbons, would kill them.Hell, they called being floral a good thing. Gotta be a homosexual or a woman.
>>22166339>Turns out you can't sell liquor on Sunday in Texas.Yeah but I can take my morning exercise walks while carrying a pistol in my pocket without a license to protect myself from the fucking loose dogs here if I want so it evens out.
>>22166740I still had a half bottle of Lagavulin anyway.Just seen Specs have Octomore 15.1 on sale so I splashed out and picking it up tomorrow.
>>22166740>exercise>walk...do amerilards really?
>>22152265FUCK YOU FOR DISRESPECTING GIN WHISKEY DRINKERS ARE PRETENTIOUS RETARDS
>>22166723Don't have a strong point point of reference because I haven't tried that many, but if you've tasted more than I have, I will take your word on it being tasteless relative to what's out there. >>22166725I am willing to pay more to get something more solid. However, WT 101 and OGD 114 look really interesting from the descriptions. Benchmark Full Proof sounds super cool, too. >>22166731Didn't say floral was a good thing. I said that's just what I noticed. I didn't know that it could taste like that and was surprised by it. As for Maker's Mark, even neat, the burn wasn't unreasonable, at all. I just couldn't really recognize any of the flavors. Most definitely got peaches and vanilla on the nose.>would kill themEh, I am open to the burn if it's a part of the experience. Not sure if there's a certain way to drink it to notice more of the flavors. Or if I need to be more attentive.
>>22166771you are so gay it's just alcohol
>>22166775I thought it was women who had the better senses of taste and smell, anon.>He went on: "I see that women need a lot less training to get to the same level of tasting as men. Like my wife and [my co-founder Travis Smith's] wife — they can pick up stuff naturally. I'm like, 'I've been doing this for eight years, training — not just making beer and drinking it, but training" — and meanwhile, his and Smith's wives readily picked up on lots of aromas in the beer.that's why you need to justify your hobby because hobbies that involve smelling and tasting are inherently women's hobbies. like wine and tea.
>>22166771floral is fine. i really dig it. love it in my glenlivet.makers mark just doesnt taste good, regardless of how 'smooth' anyone thinks it is.
>>22166754most? no. him? prolly not.>>22166740>so it evens outamerica hates you
>>22166709Try johnnie walker black if you can get it at that price, it is very "smooth" and mellow as long as you don't mind a bit of smoke / peat
>>22162607>>22162639>>22166709>>22167347All the Diageo shill. Setting himself up for samefagged Diageo recs. Has transparently done this many times before.
>>22159362great for highballs, better for old fashionedstraight or rocks it's a bit lacking
>>22161028>>22161446>>22161461The correct ratio is 3:1, everything else is cope.Your Martini should have a hint of sweetness and a gentle golden color.>>22161451Old Fashioneds are pretty tricky to get right, because you need to use the right sugar source and the right amount of bitters to get it to where you like it. It's probably gonna take you a couple tries to get it right.
>>22168028>Old Fashioneds are pretty tricky to get rightPeople overcomplicate that bullshit drink. It's basically just sweetened whiskey on the rocks. It also lacks the elegance of other shortdrinks like Manhattan, Sidecar or Crustas.
>>22168064>People overcomplicate that bullshit drinkmy point is that you need to try a couple times to figure out what you like.
>>22168070People still overcomplicate it. Trying different bitters, sugars or whiskeys while in the end they are just drinking diluted sweetened whiskey pretending to be Don Draper.
Is there a list of *the* brands of 2026? When I use to drink whisky, I would do Blanton's, Rare Eagle and Jameson's Gold.
>>22168077people have been drinking diluted, sweetened whisky for 150 years, don't knock it
>>22168094women and fags
>>22168143well, I guess if you're into bourbon, you don't really need to add sugar
>>22168146The old fashion is made with American whiskey anyways. Just serving it on the rocks would be enough to make it drinkable if you can't stand alcohol. And if you really hat the taste of alcohol sours will mask it so much better.
>>22168179>>22168146the sugar syrup is used as a thickening agent
>>22166709just keep buying them until you find one that doesn't make you cringe. almost all of the budget bottles are basically worth what they cost and none of it really "stands out" as much as internet echo chambers insist. it's just which mashbill and distillate character strikes a chord with your tastebuds. so try beam, jack daniels, buffalo trace, four roses, woodford reserve, wild turkey, old grand dad (it doesn't have to be 114. people just love rattling off whichever bottle they hold in the highest reverence / they heard mentioned most often from their facebook groups or youtube channels of choice. OGD comes in lower proofs as well)>I am willing to pay more to get something more solidcooper's craft desu
why is whisky larped so hard?Is it because people are generally poor?
>>22168395whatever creates user engagement
>>22168395What does that even mean ?
>>22168406people will say a lot of nonsense and make up a bunch of stupid rules, when the goal is to drink something you like
>>22168412t.Goofus
>>22168412Oh, so you just don't know what "larp" means.
>>22168187A few grams of sugar for 60 ml whiskey and additional water from the ice will not thicken anything.
>>22168415no, the point is that poorniggers are roleplaying as "le whisky enjoyer"
>>22168419I am of lower income and regularly enjoy expensive whisk(e)y because it is literally the only thing I ever really spend a lot of money on. I'm quite frugal otherwise.
>>22168422you should add some coke next time
>>22168416not him but simple syrup adds a silky texture
>>22168413t. garry
It's Monday and the liquor stores are back open
>>22168483Nice bro. Spec's is fucking legit.I will probably be going there more often than Total Wine because they have Kilchoman and Glenallachie and Total Wine doesn't.
>>22152324So I've decided this Machir Bay Cask Strength is my new favorite heavily peated whisky, replacing Longrow.This is one I wish to always have in my cabinet from now on. It's so fucking good.
>>22168419>>22168395There is a significant size layer of market, where there is stuff you can actually enjoy, and is still not outrageously expensive. Imo, it's stuff between $20 and $200 for 750ml bottle.Stuff below that segment is booze that you drink to get drunk, for its psychoactive effect, cue price efficiency comparisons with vodka. The higher number is very subjective, it's an individual call for when an incremental improvement is worth the price for you or not.Above that is success signaling and corporate gifts, but again, it's subjective. The same (rare, 40 years aged, etc) bottle can be bought by someone who just likes to sip it a tiniest bit more than green johnny walker and has a lot of money, and also by someone who wants to larp as a successful sports car and rolex watches internet personality.
>>22168491Well, the nearest total wine to me is like a 40 minute drive each way but there's a Specs ten minutes away
>>22164204I don’t like impex because they are faggots that are pushing price gouging across multiple brands that they are handling the imports for The whiskey is probably pretty good but not as good as some other independent bottlers. I bought quite a few impex products before I figured out what there are up to in the whisky market If someone wants to price gouge it’s on principle to walk away from doing business with them It sucks we have to deal with stuff like this in North America
>>22168744same store got a 28 year Sprinkbank from Impex 5 or 6 years ago. that shit was like $900 after tax and it wasnt even heavily sherried, if at all. thats like 2 bottles of Longrow 21 and a bottle of the 18 too. nutso stuff. I'll probably pass. most reviews I've seen for Kilchomans wine works(apart the Sanaig) are really flaky and often times described as disappointing, especially for the price. the store has been consistently raising prices of independent bottler offerings years before tariffs started and de minimus ended.
Current state of babby's (almost) first bottles
>>22169306Cool now buy something that doesn't suck.
>>22169306Not a bad start, don’t rush your whiskey journey, there’s zero point in making whiskey a flex, notice how Reddit often posts steering wheels and watches with their whiskey pictures. Those people are being niggers. Spending years just buying one or two bottles at a time and working your way through the basics is the best way to start your whiskey journey. Take it slow and 10 years from now you can start accumulating expensive stuff and fully get to appreciate it. There for a while your palate won’t taste things consistently, whiskey is such strong flavors that it takes a while to adjust
>>22169306You need to try a knob creek 9
>>22169329>clown noises
>>22169306very nice
>>22169367>>22169369Thanks, yeah I'll probably buy another bourbon and some not too expensive peated scotch next.
>>22169367>Not a bad startActually it was a fucking terrible start.
>>22169306>keeping sipping liquor in the freezer
>>22169407Keeping bad whiskey in the freezer is perfectly reasonable.That's all bad whiskey.
>>22169407where's the sipping liquor in the image?
>recommends the same 3 budget bottles ad nauseum>turns nose up at jim beam extra agedthis is what happens when you consume more whiskey culture than actual whiskey>>22169437all but monkey shoulder desuthere's nothing like waking up in the morning and just pouring some glorious budget whiskey in a tumbler. goes down like water, tastes heavenly, costs pennies
>>22169448>glorious budget whiskeyThat would be Wild Turkey 101, OGD 114, or $37 Laphroaig 10 at Costco, not the trash in that image.
>>22169451it's fine keep following the script. you haven't even heard of the stuff i drink and it's better that way. you fags hyped mellow corn into doubling in price
>>22169306My whiskey journey also began with Jim Beam Black. Got me hooked and wanted to try more after that. Get yourself something like Knob Creek 9, or Eagle Rare, which are still affordable.
>>22169407It's just fridge temp, seemed nicer in the summer>>22169477>>22169448honestly I liked all of them, maybe monkey shoulder the least
Got a mini of the Wild Turkey 101 like the anon suggested. No, it did not "kill me." I'm actually enjoying it. getting vanilla, oak, spices, cinnamon, something smoke adjacent. Other stuff going on that I can't describe. Much much better than the Maker's Mark I tried.
>>22169823biggest difference between those two is maker's mark being wheated burbon, and likely aged less
>>22168483I’ve been looking for another octomore for years. It’s the only expensive bottle I would buy the instant I see it outside of my holiday purchases >>22169452>you fags hyped mellow corn into doubling in priceFunny how this is true but it was bound to happen, it was THE goat cheap liquor not even just whiskey but spirits overall
>>22169452I agree this shit has gotten out of control Fucking retarded actually
>>22169452blame Ralfy
>>22152673Horrific if you mistakenly conceptualize it as whiskeyDivine if you understand it's nothing but a highball precursor ingredient
drinking bunnahabhain 12 and 12 cs back to backjust kill me, it doesn't get better than thisalmost ordered a 140 proof coy hill JD through doordash but the store closes soon and i didn't want any hassle with something so expensive
>>22170438>140 proof coy hill JD >through doordashyou got some crazy ideas, I could barely trust a dasher with a burrito
>>22170464lol right. May drive there tomorrow. Funny thing is I'd save a few bucks because it's letting me use a promo code for $20 off. But i don't want want to risk any issues. I read in their TOS that if you're "visibly drunk" the driver isn't supposed to deliver to you, and that you won't get a refund either
>>22170500Sending door dash to pick up decent bottles is something that never occurred to me. Time to place an order during a bourbon drop.
not for beginners
>>22170604for old alcoholics?
>>22170604Mark Twain's favourite bourbon
>Live in the Chicago area>Go to my local Binnys on a random Saturday afternoon>All the Weller 12, EH taylor, Stagg, and Blantons you could wantThe bubble is burst
>>22170560>door dashI hate the modern economy so much.
>>22170796yeah, a young'n would let the price and their intolerance to ethanol get in the way of enjoying the flavor but as a seasoned drinker it's dangerously delicious>>22170868It's a completely different whiskey than it was then. Jim Beam revived the brand name and it's just younger white label
>>22171118But those are all shit or overrated. I'll only consider the bubble as burst when I can walk into any random store and get a George T Stagg at msrp.
>>22171118>Chicongonot even once
Is it just me, or mixing sweet scotch malt and bourbon is like the best thing ever? No wonder sherry finished bourbons and sherry/ex-bourbon double barrel single malt whiskeys are a thing.
>>22172006i like it too :)
Jameson is that one drink i just can't bring myself to ever hate. It's like coming home. It always satisfies
>>22161666i am NOT fucking buying something called GEORGE DICKEL like get the fuck out of here. humiliation ritual. I am literally a giant fag and there's absolutely no way i'm marching my tranny ass up to the checkout line at total wine and saying "yes, one bottle of george dickel please!!! :3" no fucking maam. fuck off. cunt.
>>22172339This level of demonizing male sexuality is exactly why you bowed out of the human race and became a abominable tranny
>>22172339>>22172641i dont go info anti-tranny shit, but hes right this once>>22172197Jameson/Bushmills... unless some bitch is selling at a high price point (27,30)...im happy with it. no interest in the higher price blends tho.
>>22172197Absolute slop, tastes like cheap vodka with some hay and grains.
Test
>>22172339>>22161666I saw Dickel 8 year yesterday, with a notice that it's being discontinued. Picked knob creek instead.
Whenever I buy independently bottled whisky, they're either really way too good or just painfully mid. The whole scheme is basically gambling.
>>22173007Slobbing the knob isn't a big shift, anon.
>>22173007Dickel needs to come up with something quick, I don’t think there’s a more demonized whiskey out there right now. It’s not terrible either, the whiskey market in general is retarded right now
I have a couple of Dickel 15 year single barrels (17 and 18 years actual), and they are great, each is a silky such pour. I definitely get some of the vitamin note from both bottles, but I kind of like it. And I like the name, that it makes me think about penises every time I drink it. Good stuff!
...ever butter your whisky?
>>22174089you mean...do i butter my Dickel?
>>22172197Tullamore Dew is a good cheap Irish too. Has a nice fruity nose, strong on the apple
>>22174378ye DEW, BUSH, Jameson, Hare n whatever the fuckbasic irish gang. great prices. fine neat. highball away.
Does anyone here know what the difference is between a Laphroaig 30-year extremely rare and the normal 30-year that's available on their website?
>>22174503And an extra question since this thread also has Cognac and Armagnac. Does anyone know something about G & H Ferte Armagnac? I've been trying to look up information online but results are sparse and confuse it with Ferte de Partenay.
>>22174113no, buttered whiskyit's a hot cocktail where you combine spiced churned butter to whisky and hot water basically. If you do it right the butter hasn't separated and you get something like a creamy spiced wine, but it's whisky. Usually done with rum but I like it with whisky too. Try it out man
>>22174002Diageo owns it, it's all over
>>22174508>>22174503they come in boxesas do i, but only when my dickel is buttered
>>22174503whiskybase.com
>>22174503presumably it's a different blend made with different casks.Remember, the age statement is the MINIMUM age in the blend.
My friendly neighborhood liquor store owner gave me two nips of this shit for free for being such a kind and consistent customer. What am I in for?
>>22175040>Natural flavors and caramel color>Barrel proof>Only the strong surviveThis looks even more cursed than Black Booster desu
>>22175040>What am I in for?https://www.thirtyonewhiskey.com/whiskey-review-yukon-jack-barrel-proof-whiskey/>Taking a sip, I regret every life choice that brought me to this moment.
>>22175148Oh, so that's why he was giving it away for free.
>>22172859that's not the point of it. and it definitely tastes decent for what it is and its price point
>>22170560Specs is my liquor store of choice. Is it a national thing or is it just in Texas? Absolutely amazing customer service there
>>22169306we all start somewhere. those are good but there's an entire world of great stuff you can branch out to
This absolutely undrinkable trash was the first whiskey i ever tried and i'm pretty sure i poured it down the drainsurprised I ever bothered with whiskey again after
>North Shore Distillery 10 year barrel Strength Single Malt just droppedDrinking good tonight lads.
>>22175376it wasnt the worst thing when I had it 15 years ago. Jacob's Ghost was surprisingly good, so ofc they discontinued that one.
>>22155382>I wish ~95% ethanol was as cheap and readily available as it should be for what it is.>It's so fucking useful in many ways aside from drinking it.LOL. Yeah. I bought a bottle of it and used it to extract the sertraline from my Zoloft tablets, then mixed the crystallized sertraline with DMSO to test it as a transdermal medication. I was trying to figure out whether the Zoloft had lost its effectiveness due to an absorption problem or a liver enzyme problem. Sadly, due to this test, I was able to confirm that it was my liver enzymes.>Like, it's gotta be a safer/superior disinfectant than isopropyl because it just involves inhalation of ethanol fumes rather than isopropyl fumes.The fumes aren't really all that harmful. The stuff doesn't destroy your DNA or anything. As long as you're not huffing it to try to get high, it's no worse than any of the other weird alcohols you might encounter from eating too-ripe fruit or drinking a shit-tier beer like Keystone Light or Beer:30.Fuck, literally the only time I've ever had a "hangover" was from drinking one can each of Keystone Light and Beer:30 at a college football "tailgate party" some of my classmates were throwing. It wasn't even some next-morning headache, it hit within an hour of drinking them. They tasted like formaldehyde. I've never gotten even slightly headachy from drinking anything else whatsoever, even to excess.
>>22155382>Like, it's gotta be a safer/superior disinfectant than isopropyl because it just involves inhalation of ethanol fumes rather than isopropyl fumes.Isopropyl alcohol is about two to three times more toxic than ethanol, but it also gets you a lot more drunk.>because it just involves inhalation of ethanol fumes rather than isopropyl fumes.Isopropanol fumes are completely harmless.In general, people's perception of toxicity is extremely skewed.
got some very old barton 80 proof on clearance :)
Wild Turkey 101 has NEVER let me down
>>22157831uh oh another snob is born.The pitfall of too much easily disposable income and vice.
**tips fedora**
>>22178526at??
>>22178501from his posts it looks like he has the same bottles of whiskey for weeks if not months.if you have a bottle of whiskey sitting around for that long, its most definitely not a vice.also, he doesnt blow his money on guitars.
>>22178419bourbon is solved
>>22178797and yet i thirst
>>22178797rye is better
>>22175375I'll probably buy a peated scotch after these and maybe buffalo trace or WT101 (buffalo trace is cheaper)
>>22178969Yes, anon, I know, I also want single cask, cask strength bourbon aged for 12+ years. But in the heart of hearts, that wild turkey, it's like 90% there.
>>22180053i find bourbon somewhat unappealing and inevitably make a high ball with it. should i buy a 40$ WT101 for high balls?
>>22180691first move to where it's under $25
