If you’re in DC, vote yes on Initiative 86Suppose you learned that your neighbor Fred kept geese in small cages in his basement. He shoved a tube down their throats to force feed them sickening quantities of food, causing their livers to grow to many times their normal size. After a short period, he killed them. This was done because fattening their liver made it tastier.Fred would be doing something evil. For the same reasons, the foie gras industry is evil.It is a remarkable fact that even in a country with as deplorable a disregard for animal welfare as America, foie gras is so cruel as to be almost synonymous with animal cruelty. This synonymity is well earned; foie gras is evil and grotesque. DC is currently voting on Initiative 86 which would ban foie gras. They should vote yes.Foie gras has been consistently condemned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras_controversy#EU_Scientific_Committee_on_Animal_Health_and_Welfare_report_(1998) as inhumane by outside bodies reviewing it. It involves shoving a metal pipe down the throat of the ducks and force feeding them so that their livers grow to many times their normal size. While it’s often claimed that ducks don’t have a gag reflex, this is unclear. https://modernfarmer.com/2015/01/weekly-glean-artificially-enlarged-liver/
>>22270640There are many ways that foie gras production causes grievous distress to ducks: https://www.wellbeingintlstudiesrepository.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1001&context=agreportsThe ducks are fed sickeningly large amounts extremely quickly.If the corn gets stuck in the duck’s esophagus, it’s sometimes pushed down with a stick.Corn mash used to fatten up ducks is nutritionally inadequate.Foie gras has its distinct taste because of the fat in the duck’s liver. Ordinary duck livers are about 5% fat. Foie gras ducks’ livers are 50% fat. This causes serious liver diseases in the fattened ducks.Behavioral evidence indicates ducks find the process very distressing.“Force-feeding can cause a number of injuries: pain and injury from handling caused by the tubing of the forcefeeding funnel; trauma caused by injecting a high-temperature corn mash; bruising or perforation of the esophagus when the pipe is inserted; hemorrhaging and inflammation of the neck resulting from too forcible an introduction of the pipe to the throat; or asphyxia caused by food improperly forced into the trachea.Wounds of the esophagus may subsequently become infected with opportunistic pathogens.”About half of foie gras ducks break bones.Liver expansion makes it hard for the ducks to walk properly. Imagine your liver swelling to such a size that you can barely walk.While in an ordinary 2 week period, mortality rate for a duck is .2%, during the foie gras feeding period, the mortality rate is 2-4%.Like many other farmed animals, foie gras ducks are crammed together with little space.
Really? This board too? Fuck off.
>>22270640i do this but with my dick and ur mom
If you did this to a dog, everybody would agree you were torturing it (I tried to get ChatGPT to make me an image of what this would look like unsurprisingly, it refused). If you shoved a metal pipe down a dog’s throat and force fed it to such sickening extremes that its liver increased in size ten-fold, causing it great distress, obviously that would be monstrous. Foie gras is similarly cruel.So what do the defenders of foie gras say in response?One thing they say is that ducks naturally gorge, leading to expanded livers. But this involves liver size increasing a little bit, at most around 50%, not 700%. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC13603795/
>>22270642voting day is very soon
>>22270646You're going to lose because you people are so annoying people act against you out of spite.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/video-cruelty-chef-gordon-ramsays-2688593Crammed into tiny cages, caked in filth, riddled with sores and in agony from broken beaks and wings, these are the ducks used to make foie gras at Gordon Ramsay’s restaurants.Campaigners last night branded the horrific conditions the “worst ever seen” after being shown the pictures of shocking cruelty at plants that supply the celebrity chef with the posh dish.Ducks lie dead and dying, many have painful eye injuries and abscesses and all are force-fed grain through a tube to make their livers 10 times the normal size during a two-week ordeal in a windowless shed before they are slaughtered.In one pitiful scene, an exhausted and clearly distressed bird can be seen on its side with its tongue hanging from its beak.A vet who saw the disturbing footage, obtained by the Mirror, said if pets were kept in such appalling conditions their owners would be hauled before a court.Justin Kerswell, campaigns manager for animal rights group Viva!, said: “This is torture, pure and simple.“I can’t imagine Gordon Ramsay would dare defend this. We have seen many images of animal suffering in our 20-year history, but this footage from a supplier to Gordon Ramsay has to rank as among the worst and the most heart-breaking.“Ducks caged and filthy in their own vomit and clearly in distress, all to produce a dollop of fat as a choice on expensive menus that no one needs.“How long can he say that taste trumps ethics when faced with this?”Duck torture of Gordon Ramsay's foie gras supplierView galleryRamsay last night stopped all purchasing from the French firm Ernest Soulard that supplies his foie gras.A spokesman said: “We have only just been made aware of these allegations but as a precaution have suspended purchasing from this supplier while we investigate further.”
>>22270650any data to back that up?
>>22270640>foie gras industry is evil.the same could be said about all junk food.but instead of outlawing it (like some leftist jackass that hates freedom) let's tax it and fund education so people learn why it's bad instead.you DO support a junk food tax, don't you?
>>22270652how do you think trump got elected twice, anon?people voted for him because they fucking hate loud and obnoxious people.yes, the left is far more loud and obnoxious than trump.quite an accomplishment, actually.
>>22270650It is an outright ban on the commercial sale, distribution, and importation of the product, rather than just a penalty on local production.The Sale Ban is Product-Based, Not Just Process-Based: Even if a workaround avoids the physical act of tube-feeding, the ban targets any fattened bird liver product resulting from force-feeding or excessive artificial enlargement.The Legal Definition: The text explicitly bans products derived from practices intended to abnormally enlarge the liver. Enforcement agents and health inspectors would look at the end product (fattened livers marketed as foie gras or similar luxury items) rather than just auditing the farm-level feeding mechanism.https://proanimaldc.org/prohibit-force-feeding-of-birds-act/#:~:text=(a)%20Prohibit%20any%20person%20from%20force%2Dfeeding%20a,safety%20inspections%3B%20(e)%20Provide%20for%20civil%20penalties.>>22270665that is a massive stretchMassachusetts Question 3 Massachusetts, Ensures that egg-laying hens, breeding pigs, and calves raised for veal have enough space to move freely. 77.7% voted yes and it was put into law California Proposition 12 California Prohibits the sale of food products from animals kept in cruel confinement 63%In 2024, Berkeley, California – Measure DD (61.9% YES): Prohibited large-scale livestock facilities within city limits, including facilities keeping livestock for 45 days or more that meet specified federal size thresholds. Existing qualifying facilities were required to cease operations within one year, with penalties of up to $10,000 per violation per day
>>22270665JURY NULLIFICATION This man was ON VIDEO RECORDING HIMSELF COMMITTING HIS CRIME And was completely acquitted by a jury of breaking into a factory farm to rescue two sick piglets despite overwhelming evidence that he did it. They literally filmed themselves committing their “crimes” and confessed but were still acquitted.Thishttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_7q87fAYbZk 4 minutes and 30 seconds in you can see live footage from courtroom of verdict being read.The animal rescue took place in March 2017 at Smithfield Foods' Circle Four Farms in Beaver County, Utah, and the trial was held in neighboring Washington County, Utah in October 2022.Beaver County is extremely rural, heavily agricultural, and politically conservative. In political elections, both Beaver County and Washington County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump (winning roughly 80% and 70% of the vote, respectively).Pregnant pigs were locked inside 2 by 7 foot metal gestation and farrowing crates, spaces so narrow the animals could not turn around. Many sows suffered from open pressure sores, were covered in feces, or bit cage bars until their mouths bled from distress. In one instance, a sow's nipples were so torn that her starving piglets were drinking her blood instead of milk.Investigators documented piglets experiencing seizures, dying of starvation, being crushed under their mothers, or falling through metal floor grates and getting trapped beneath. The two piglets rescued by Hsiung (later named Lily and Lizzie) were severely malnourished, infected, and near death.
>>22270682https://animalequality.org/news/2022/10/28/animal-activists-found-not-guilty-in-smithfield-rescue/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/08/science/animals-rights-piglets-smithfield.htmlThe Smithfield Foods Farm TrialFollowing the release of the footage from the Smithfield farm, the FBI identified Hsiung and Picklesimer and began a multi-state chase. Agents raided animal sanctuaries in Utah and Colorado. At one sanctuary, a government veterinarian sliced off a part of a pig’s ear to test the DNA to try and identify her as a Smithfield pig
Who gives a shit what animals feel? Take your meds schizo
>>22270665>people voted for him because they fucking hate loud and obnoxious people.>yes, the left is far more loud and obnoxious than trump.lollet's be honest, the real reason you voted for your orange pedophile is that you saw a Black person in a video game and had a meltdown.
>>22270665Trump won because republicans love and support pedophilia and child rape specifically child anal rape. Trump won because republicans are a pedo cult, that ends in a few days though
What these faggots never tell you is that the ducks LINE UP for their "force feedings". They absolutely love it. They willfully submit to all that extra delicious corn. EAT FOIE GRAS
>>22270640I love foie gras. I think i already know what i will serve next weekend.
>>22270686Most non shithole countries like in much of the EU have strong animal welfare laws >who cares how baby boys feel? no anesthetic
>>22270714Fuck off with your jew obsession. Rent free.
>>22270702>Reported injuries include oesophageal lesions, footpad dermatitis and carcass injuries. Force-feeding also produces marked liver enlargement due to fat accumulation, accompanied by changes in liver function.>Force-Feeding>Foie gras producers first begin to force feed birds at 10-14 weeks of age,18 with ducks usually force-fed twicedaily for 12-15 days and geese three times daily for 15-21 days.19 In some instances, geese may be force-fed sixtimes per day for 13-14 days, in order to reduce the total amount of corn that is used.>The force-feeding procedure involves holding a bird by the neck, drawing the animal towards the feeding pipeor tube, which is approximately 20-30 cm (8-12 in) in length, thrusting the pipe down the bird’s throat, andinitiating the food pumping process.21 Corn mash is pushed through the pipe and into the bird’s esophagus withan auger or, in large facilities, via pneumatic pump. At the first force-feeding, 180 g (0.4 lb) of food is forced
>>22270702>>22270719> into a duck, and by the last feeding, the amount is increased to 450 g (1 lb), injected in as little as 2 seconds.22Reportedly, if the corn mash becomes lodged in the bird’s esophagus, a stick is sometimes used to force itdown.23 This quantity of mash, injected twice daily, is much more food than ducks eat voluntarily.24Ducks and geese are natural omnivores.25 The corn-based feed force-fed to birds in foie gras production isnutritionally incomplete. According to Yvan Beck, an expert on force-feeding in foie gras production: “The foodgiven to palmipeds [waterfowl] does not cover the physiological needs of this species. It is an unbalanced diet,designed to artificially cause hepatic lipidosis.” Beck explains that if the feed were given under naturalconditions, the birds would refuse it, and that the birds could not survive on this diet alone due to thedeficiencies it would lead to in the long term.26A chemical analysis of the corn mash used at Hudson Valley Foie Gras in New York established the feed did notmeet the nutrient requirements of ducks, being “too low in protein and too high in trace minerals.”27,28 Ducksreportedly removed from a foie gras farm in California who were presented to a veterinarian for inspection wereextremely ill and showed signs of malnutrition.29After the birds’ livers have expanded significantly, the animals are slaughtered and the livers are removed andprocessed.30
>>22270702>Behavioral evidence suggests that force-feeding causes fear.52 Ducks show signs of aversion to force-feeding53and may not voluntarily enter a feeding pen. One study, for example, compared responses of force-fed and non-force-fed ducks to a feeding pen. In general, the non-force-fed ducks went willingly from the home pen into thefeeding pen. In contrast, the force-fed ducks had to be driven out of the home pen.54 SCAHAW concludes:>“Since the feeding pen was attractive to the birds which were not force-fed, the results indicate that the forcefeeding pen was not attractive to the force fed ducks and that the procedure might involve an aversivecomponent.”
lol, some PETA vegan faggot found 4chan. EAT FOIE GRAS
>>22270702 In foie gras production, however, the birds are oftenhoused at high densities and prevented from engaging in natural behavior.Pen systems provide 0.2-0.25 m2 (2.15-2.7 ft2) per duck or 0.33 m2 (3.6 ft2) per goose.96 Each group penconfines 12-15 ducks or 9 geese, and has wire mesh walls and slatted floors. Drinking water is available from atrough placed inside the pen.97On some production facilities, birds are confined in near darkness, in an attempt to keep them calm. SonomaFoie Gras in California reportedly keeps birds in darkened sheds for the two-week force-feeding period.98Darkness likely impairs normal exploratory behavior and physical exercise.99Confined birds raised for foie gras are unable to forage for food and are denied water in which to swim andclean their plumage.100 The absence of opportunities to engage in such instinctual behavior is likely to causefrustration and stress.101 Without access to open water, ducks may display abnormal repetitive behavioralpatterns, including head shaking and stereotypic feather preening, and foraging behavior that would normallytake place on the water surface may be redirected toward less appropriate substrates such as straw, if present.102Waterfowl are strongly motivated to bathe in and interact with water. In an experiment designed to assess theirlevel of motivation, ducks lifted heavily weighted doors in order to gain access to a pen with bathing water.They performed this behavior at least as often as they lifted the weights in order to access a pen with food,103suggesting that the internal drive to swim is as strong as the drive to eat. In another study, ducklings traversedhigher barriers to access a drinking trough than they would for access to bell drinkers or drinking nipples. Theresearchers concluded that “ducklings prefer wider, deeper water channels that allow a greater range of drinkerdirected activities.”104
>>22270730>>22270702Ducks need water in order to adequately groom and clean their body and plumage. Without open water in whichducks can immerse their heads, the beak, eyes, and nostrils may become dirty.105,106 In experiments withMuscovy ducks, groups with access to a water “gutter” spent more time preening and had better plumagecondition at slaughter than those who had access only to a bell drinker.107 Clearly, the welfare of ducks isimpaired by commercial production conditions that deny birds access to water for swimming and bathing.
>>22270702Force-feeding can cause a number of injuries: pain and injury from handling caused by the tubing of the force-feeding funnel; trauma caused by injecting a high-temperature corn mash; bruising or perforation of theesophagus when the pipe is inserted; hemorrhaging and inflammation of the neck resulting from too forcible anintroduction of the pipe to the throat; or asphyxia caused by food improperly forced into the trachea.56,57 Woundsof the esophagus may subsequently become infected with opportunistic pathogens.58Duncan explains: “[T]he regular insertion of a feeding tube down the esophagus several times a day willinevitably lead to damage of the esophagus. When the esophagus becomes damaged, then the painfulness ofevery force feeding episode will be exacerbated.”59In a declaration submitted to the San Joaquin County District Attorney, veterinarian Laurie Siperstein-Cookstates: “It has been shown on necropsy that the esophagus [sic] of force-fed ducks exhibit scarring from therepeated trauma from the wide metal tubes that are pushed down the esophagus during the force-feedingprocess. Rough handling by the workers doing the force-feeding would exacerbate this trauma to the mucosalsurface of the esophagus.”60SCAHAW reports:Most injuries caused by tissue damage during handling or tube insertion would result in pain. Theoropharyngeal area is particularly sensitive and is physiologically adapted to perform a gag reflex inorder to prevent fluids entering the trachea. Force feeding will have to overcome this reflex and hencethe birds may initially find this distressing and injury may result.
>>22270733>>22270702The working group was informed that ducks at the end of the force feeding period can have seriousinjuries to the oesophagus or, more usually, having [sic] clear evidence of tissue damage in theoesophagus. It seems likely that birds have sufficient damage to oesophagus tissue, caused by the forcefeeding process to have been painful to the birds.62Ducks used in foie gras production are prone to broken bones. During the force-feeding period, the frequency offractures to the humeral (wing) bones repeatedly reaches 54%.63 The SCAHAW report states: “Different lesionscan be observed on carcasses. The most frequent are bone fractures. They occur on wing bones, mainly thehumerus.”64 The report continues by explaining that the prevalence of bone fractures due to handling atslaughter for Mulard ducks is between 30-70%.65 Scientists postulate that the problem of broken bones could bedue to changes in homeostasis caused by force-feeding of an abnormal diet, which could affect metabolism ofcalcium and phosphate and subject birds to osteopathy, “making their bones more fragile or even morepainful.”66Greg Harrison, Diplomate of the American Board of Veterinary Practitioners and the European College ofAvian Medicine and Surgery, agrees: “The lack of sufficient protein, vitamins and minerals (calcium) leads theyoung birds’ rapidly growing bones to be structurally flawed (osteodystrophy). This leads to bending andbreaking (rickets).”67
>>22270702MortalitySCAHAW notes that the “effects of force feeding are lethal when the procedures are continued”90 and found that“[t]he mortality rate in force fed birds varies from 2% to 4% in the two week force feeding period comparedwith around 0.2% in non force fed ducks.”91 As force-feeding continues, mortality increases. In one scientificinvestigation, 9 out of 144 force-fed ducks died and mortality increased with the length of the force-feedingperiod imposed in the study: 1 death among the animals force-fed for 10 days, 2 deaths for those force-fed for13 days, and 6 deaths in the group force-fed for 16 days. The researchers attributed the mortality to “mechanicaland behavioral” causes, as some of the birds who died had such difficulty walking that they could not accessdrinking water.92
Lol.
>>22270786>>22270789H-hot.... you got more images like that? Maybe where they get fed some jogurt?
gluttonous profligate obese dysgenic animal abuser chef
>itt people who have never had a hunger strike broken through force feeding
>>22270640>>22270641Couldnt you opened with It will fuck over the french and it will be hillarious ?
This thread was made by the vegan schizo. He spams these vegan schizo threads on /an/ all the time. Apparently he got btfo by someone after posting this exact thread on /pol/ as well.
>>22270665Less just loud, more loud and unhinged. It's fucking depressing that he was the sane option.
>>22270640Cry more, chud. It's delicious.
I think all animal rights people were bleeding hearts for humans variety at some point in their past, but then realized that humans can be occasionally "bad" actually, and the realization that they might do something that *also* benefits "bad" people severely fucked them up, so they switched to bleed heart for animals that can't be "bad". This way there's no gray anywhere and everyone against you is a scary murderer
>>22270652Trump x2>you lost
Can't wait to eat it for Christmas, so smooth and delicious.
>>22270950It's honestly not that good. I expected so much more after how hyped up it was all my life but once I started making good money and I've had a chance to try it in numerous preparations at higher-end places, it's just alright, especially compared to the reputation it has.
>>22270640giving a shit about birds other than corvids is like caring about the attempted genocide of dust mites, they're about as intelligent and self aware
Fuck you Anglo-Saxon scum. France will prevail
>>22270640Idk man that goose looks pretty happy
>>22270640>Suppose you learned that your neighbor Fred kept geese in small cages in his basement. The jew fears the unlicensed, subterranean gavageur.
>>22270640>He shoved a tube down their throats to force feed them sickening quantities of food, causing their livers to grow to many times their normal size.I wish a girl would do this to me.
>>22270942no he didn’t >>>/pol/545339485
>>22270965They are intelligent and I don’t know why self awareness matters because it’s still wrong to torture human babies or severely mentally handicapped human adults who can’t pass a mirror test
>>22270969>France will prevailAt or against what? France can't even paternity test its children, they'll be Algerians in 2 generations.
>>22270645Geese are assholes that chase children at parks. Similarly, if you did this to a pitbull or chow chow I would just laugh because they're asshole dogs.
>>22270698Why did you capitalize "black"?
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>>22270640Get fucked, faggot
Personally, I think we should torture the birds even if we don't intend to eat them.
>>22270640This Is exactly how I like my life when is the neighbor coming for me?
>>22270640Foie gras is cruel but then again so is the entire meat industry. If we stop force feeding geese due to cruelty concerns, pretty soon we'll be told shooting cows in the head is too cruel too.
>>22271321If gavage is cruel, then landwhales should be banned from buying food. Letting someone be obese is a million times more cruel than foie gras
>>22270640I vote NOt. frog
>>22270948If you voted for trump because you saw a purple haired freak online then you fell for a psyop
>>22271321It is cruel. I don't think the answer is trying to force everyone to go vegan but I still wish there was a better alternative.
>>22270640I feel like I should drop off a six-pack at fred's house to thank him...
lol fuck birds, foie gras is deli-fucking-cious, OF COURSE tastelet anglo "civilization" can't wrap its feeble limited mind around trve cuisine's supreme delicaciesalso bring back ortolans and dog meat
>>22270640geese would rape you if they could, think about that
>>22271321>>22271475I support banning animal agriculture and making everyone vegan
>>22271321I think there is a difference between a quick and genrally painless death vs having your liver slowly balloon in agony till it looks good enough to eat.Shit sounds chink tier in making sure the animal suffers to better the taste. I really doubt a fat liver is gonna taste that good compared to a regular one.
>>22271884If you've never eaten it you wouldnt know the difference. And there is a world of difference between liver and foi gras liver. Stop talking out your ass about shit you dont know
>>22270642>>22270650>>22270961t. no empathy
>>22271864Whats the stat for chickens just living in the wild?
>>22270642Yeah he gets banned on /an/ and then hops boards.
>>22271967It’s a work in progress https://welfarefootprint.org/species/life-fatesWild boars in italy
>>22271943empathy applies to people, not things
>>22272660animals aren't things
>>22270640i actually live in dc but won't be voting cause votings for suckers
