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>>3974142
eji gakuki
鄂季 Pixiv ID 16317464

>>3974143
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>>3974145
bebenobe922

>>3974147
0ukai_aru_0

>>3974148
Pixiv ID 54215
What's wrong with his face here

>>3974146
Can someone read that damn sauce watermark
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If there Is any Male here like myself how did you experiences hetalia and how did it change your life personally, it's just that i love these dorls
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>>3974154
Dorks
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>>3974154
really made me think about what a country is exactly
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>>3974157
And they are all hot, which awakened my gay self
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>>3974145
Romano is all mine.
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>>3974154
I experienced it through my first girlfriend during high school about eleven years ago. Started watching the episodes on Crunchyroll thereafter, but haven't paid much attention to it since. I still have a Hetalia manga somewhere, it being one of three of any manga that I own at all.
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what do hetalians think about feminism and feminists in general, especially since some say hetalia is mysoginistic
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>>3974152
Why do u do this
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>>3974209
i dont know how to feel feel about feminism dude but i also dont know if im the only hetalian that dislikes feminism so i dont know what to think about it dude
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>>3974209
I'm a liberal feminist that supports the 4B movement, so there's that.
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>>3974245
Forgot to add, I dont know why anyone would think that Hetalia is misogynistic except for the fact that not many female nations exist. The latter explains itself by most of the world being ruled by men.
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>>3974209
Hetalia isn't misogynistic like AT ALL.. Also I think feminism is kinda dumb because it's just gone too far to where I see women saying kill all men so I'm not a feminist
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>>3974249
You know "kill all men" is just a response to incels, right? True feminism doesn't support that.
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>>3974249
based hetalian antifeminist i want more of them
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>>3974209
>what do hetalians think about feminism
I would like to have and keep my rights so that I can look at yaoi, other than that I don't really care about the topic.
>some say hetalia is mysoginistic
Don't know why. I kinda wish there were only male characters in heralia because I'm salty about the only canon brocons being women (imagine carrots and sticks being sung by cute guys) but I don't see how the show is misogynistic.
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>>3974265
what do you think about people being misandrist, is it good or bad
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>>3974233
The artists provide the world these things for free, saucing is the least we can do
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>>3974266
I mean, I think actual honest to God "kill all men" misandry is just unrealistic and thus kinda dumb, the sexes will never fully separate and it's useless to hate such a massive and vastly differing group of people. But if someone wants to live a man free life or bitch on 4chan about hating moids, that's your life man, I feel the same about seething about foids. So long as your open to having your opinions challenged and aren't planning to commit sex based hate crimes I don't care that much.
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>>3974269
>planning to commit sex based hate crimes I don't care that much.
But women aren't doing this lol
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>>3974265
I'm tired of people saying we need more women in hetalia I just want men.. Imagine a cute obsessive male Belarus or CanUkr which is a ship I like but with Nyo!Ukraine
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>>3974270
Yeah I meant that more in general with both misogyny or misandry. I dunno, hatred often leads to violence but you can't stop peoples hatred or perfectly anticipate what they'll do with it. So like, hating groups of people is generally bad but I can't stop you, and if you don't try to do anything fucked up then I don't care that much.
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>>3974246
I dunno, I don't think that's a good explanation.
Getting the real reason out of the way (the creator is a fudanshi and this is a fujo series) and focusing just on diegetics, that would mean that the Hetaloids are purely based on the elite leadership classes, and that just doesn't seem right. A lot of ex-colonial states would be basically white in that case

And I do think that a near-total lack of girl representation is an issue, but I'm not whipping out the big M

Personally, I really dislike the gender balance we get from Hima's fudanshi brain: every time I hear or see personifications of India and the Philippines elsewhere, they're almost always women. But here, they're men, so it kinda throws me for a loop

It's not lore-breaking for me, because by the standards Hetalia has already set, there should be, like, thousands of nation-tans we just never see, so I headcanon a lot more women.
Like, Prussia exists? Then we should have Bavaria, right?
Scotland exists? Then we should have Sarawak.
South Italy exists? Then where is South India?
They must exist, and I imagine them as girls
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>>3974266
Good in the same way being a Polish-Lithuanian cavalry archer is good in 2025, because it's not really a thing

Misandry in effect doesn't really exist, at least not in the same way that misogyny does. There are no major socio-structural institutions that follow it beyond esoteric political cliques. What you call misandry is a performative signalling of terminally online niche groups with no real influence that has no bearing on reality, unlike misogyny, which thrives off of extant patriarchal structures

What is one Valerie Solanas to the assuredly millions of women all over the world in just the last decade killed by men for no reason more complex than because they were women?
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>>3974278
i mean there was a case of two feminists in argentina that killed their son
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>>3974279
its the lucio dupuy case look it up
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Sauce please for smug England stepping on you

>>3974269
Not just unrealistic, it's just not real. There are no major feminist groups with national influence outside South Korea (the most insanely gender-polarized nation on Planet earth) that make total separation a major policy platform, and only tiny minorities of citizens who take those ideas seriously.
However, there have been major political groups in every country and society in the world with huge backing from the population, including from women, that advocate for decreasing women's rights ever since democracy was a thing, and before that, it was just a given that you as a woman were a second-class citizen at best.

To think that misandry existed as a social force was understandable for a normie centrist who didn't actually watch the news in 2016, but it's far sillier in 2025 in the midst of the global resurgence of fascism

>>3974273
>can't stop peoples hatred
Lib spotted.
Yes, you can, anon, it's called mass education. You can train bigotry in and you can train it out. It's worked before and it can work again because it still does

You young people and your goddamn generation keep taking as a given the stagnation of these extremely successful systems of modernity
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>>3974282
commie detected
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>>3974279
See the Valerie Solanas analogy.

Do you wanna hear about honor killings from ancient China and Rome to the modern Islamosphere and Brazil?

It's literally legal in my country as a consequence of some very old laws on marriage. We are not even that conservative
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>>3974245
I think 4B is dumb and I will still support it because of how bad things have gotten in the past 5 years. Godspeed, you, Korean wackos

>>3974272
It's less interesting, though. The gendered dynamics of the petite feminine Belarus and big burly Russia are what make it work so well. A twink has a different vibe, the weird dynamics of heterosexuality are a boon to the ship
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>>3974282
Im mostly just being a centrist to not upset anyone itt.
Im not a lib or anything, im not political.
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>>3974286
Sorry, when I said lib, I meant centrist, since liberalism kiiinda trends centrist in the US. Like, I would've said Bill Maher liberal, but Maher's gone the crank pundit route as of late instead of whatever Tapper et al. are doing, so I'm looking for a new way to describe it

>>3974285
Minor sudden headcanon, I kinda like the idea of the fairly mild and sweet Russia (the guy) being a little at odds with the uber masculine modern Russia (the country) and feeling the need to be more aggressive, like, say, Germany, Turkey, and America (the guys). It's a bit cute
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>>3974270
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>>3974245
heartal
He_Art___

>>3974285
xxwdf

>>3974265
imai_aph

>>3974269
f_lily19
g_lily15
ふうき
Pixiv ID 14505100

>>3974270
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>>3974272
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>>3974286
九厥
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>>3974246
where-are-the-pixels
Do not take me to this fucking hospital.
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>>3974303
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>>3974305
im not talking about which suffers more but saying that no person has ever killed a male out of male hatred is simply false
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Holy shit this is kinda stupid. I dont wanna hear your terrible Pick Me takes.
>>3974303
>fringe occurrence compared to the million cases of femicide
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>>3974307
Yeah but so irrelevantly rare as to really not be a thing, that's the point.
What matters isn't exceptional individuals but systemic patterns, and there really is no huge systemic pattern of misandrist violence that's of any concern to law enforcement.

And if we're going with the most broad understanding of the original statement, it IS true that "women aren't doing this."
Because while disparate groups of women kill men misandristly, women as a collective don't kill men misogynistically, while men as a collective do routinely kill women: there is nothing even close to an equivalent for incel spree killers and mass rape in war, and that's just killing and raping. There has never been anything close to a reverse-equivalent to the way men treated women like chattel in any society in any period in history

>>3974308
XD_AzNaD
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>>3974308
but its true
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Sorry, Queenie.
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>>3974363
As he declared British involvement in the Bush administration's decision to invade, PM Blair felt a pang of heat in his stomach and a stirring in his loins, the reasons for which, he could not place
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Stop fighting for a minute and celebrate Hetalia 19th Anniversary.
How did you find about Hetalia? Any good memory you have as a fan?
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>>3974379
I found out about hetalia late (compared to the peak of the fandom), watched it a few years ago and liked it but wasn't obsessed until rewatching it sometime last year.
I wish I had engaged with it earlier because the fandom seemed mostly fun, at least I can watch all the old stuff people made
https://youtu.be/2trFmN6wBjQ?si=gyqLz74lz63hzH2_
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>>3974379
Discovered Hetalia in middle school in 2019, but I was too shy to talk to anyone about my interests so I've just been quietly lurking in the fandom this whole time. Despite being lonely I've had many good memories as Hetalia cheered me up during difficult times with it's silliness and content older fans left behind
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So is this show just countryballs but with anime boys? Is it political at all?
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>>3974209
I kinda despise feminism but i don't see how Is that important
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>>3974209
As a woman, feminism based. Cute 2D country anime men who can't hurt me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3DPD. That being said KAM radfems are retarded and unrealistic.
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>>3974379
I honestly heard about it in a Italian youtuber video about anime about Italy in 2013, so I checked out
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>>3974432
Eww feminist
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>>3974379
I discovered Hetalia in 2008 thanks to the threads on /cm/. Time sure flies.
And I never engage much with the fandom outside of /cm/. I kind of regret it, to be honest.
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>>3974456
Why don't you engage with the fandom
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>>3974462
I never had anything to add to the discussing. Not really into history or know much about other countries.
But I want to start posting fanart, maybe later this year.
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>>3974476
Hey are you the same guy that said that he discovered hetalia thanks to His girlfriends
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>>3974245
Nice. I support 4B too. Women should leave men alone.
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>>3974479
Based hetalians antifeminist
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Post art and dont have a retarded gender war in a cm hetalia thread.
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>>3974395
Do you know how I can tell you're a zoomer?
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>>3974478
Nah.
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>>3974489
So just another femanon
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>>3974487
You can tell I'm a zoomer because I'm retarded and mentioned Reddit zoomershit in your high quality thread. I'm sorry, oldfag-kun.
You should watch Year Hare Affair. It's like He Talia but they're animals.
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>Hetalia thread somehow became the fastest-moving thread on /cm/
A future I did not forsee, I'll tell you that.
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>>3974497
Furry yaoi?
>>3974534
A bright future.. We gotta keep this up

How about we talk about our opinion on 2p! Hetalia ??
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>>3974413
That anon has a weird fixation on politics despite not being, like, into getting deep into it like at all. Constantly brings it up, never gets deep into any, like, ideas, it's just vibes and whining

>>3974432
All feminism that deserves the name is radical as the very thesis thereof is inherently disruptive to the most deeply rooted structures of oppression

But yeah, feminism anon, in practice, most folks who call themselves "radfems" are just antisocial weirdos with fringe, often yikes views, let's not give them attention, that's just what the enemy wants
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>>3974395
No, countryballs is Hetalia with circles.
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>>3974534
>>3974544
It was bound to happen, Hetalia is as core /cm/ as Evangelion
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>>3974395
>Is it political
It once caused a diplomatic spat between South Korea and Japan, does that count?
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>>3974379
exehachi
はちぽち
Pixiv ID 3045382

>>3974381
digen
Pixiv ID 949947

>>3974453
y_ucali_to02

>>3974456
ちくま
Pixiv ID 112918113

>>3974481
dog_bow_wow
犬わん
Pixiv ID 227314

>>3974534
Apple_Peace888

>>3974432
Anyone know how to search Lofter
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>>3974594
idk so are you saying you are feminist or that feminsm has yikes ideas
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>>3974544
Hard to get invested in because its mostly disconnected fanon but i like some of the designs. Id like it more if there was more to build off of
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Is there any hetalians here that Is not a leftie, that's what i gathered from this thread
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>>3974596
is it really true that hetalia is just that important to the cute male board
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>>3974715
Oh, I meant cm as in cute male, in that it is a relatively early and highly successful piece of fujobait with very strong longevity.
On /cm/, it's more an on-again, off-again thing.
It's a messy bitch of a franchise that may not always be on the non-secret menu, but is always on the backburner of cute-male content and pops up in the weirdest places in the strangest and dumbest ways.

i.e., https://www.herts.ac.uk/research/groups-and-units/critical-humanities-and-international-politics/world-relations-for-2020/wr2050-12-december-2022
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>>3974774
Sorry, I meant e.g.
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>>3974774
Point is, the mere mention of Hetalia is an activation trigger that overwhelms the mind of even your most ardently proship DNI in bio late-millennial girl Twitterite with irresistible thoughts of problematic gay anime sex
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>>3974673
anon i think everyone on this thread is aleftie
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>>3974779
Is this a self-reply
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>>3974780
no
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>>3974781
oh ok
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>>3974779
Lol I know what you are trying to say but i find it upsseting that almost everyone here has the same Views, no variety
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>>3974811
What do you mean

There are at least 4 distinct views here

You and the other anon are center-rightists, and there's at least another person who is a very much a 90s-style Maher-type liberal rightist

There are 2-3 lib/left-leaning anons with feminist sympathies, myself included. I am an aggressively feminist terrorlib, the other/s is/are more center-leaning liberals, but also into 4B, which I have my reasons for not being into

There are a couple of "I just wanna grill" centrists

But the clear majority wants everyone to just shut the fuck up about politics that's not relevant to literal international homosex

So what do you mean "the same Views" and "no variety"? Are you reading any of these other replies before posting
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>>3974816
are you the mexican femanon i talked to that told me they were mexican
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>>3974835
Must you know the exact details of every anon you reply to?
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>>3974838
Kinda just curious
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>>3974779
People who like cute males are gay men and women. Being right wing is retarded for both of those groups
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>>3974862
Best boy
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>>3974848
nah there can absolutely be right wingers
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>>3974947
What part of your statement is meant to refute the above
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>>3974862
XD_AzNaD

>>3975092
sana79261827
Pixiv ID 50456658

>>3974883
mandh_002

>>3974838
ennui160
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>>3975120
you cant say its retarded just because our traits
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>>3974157
A Male? in the hetalia fandom
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Ok so I'll be very brief with this.

How do you feel about the woman who voiced the narrador in the dub of hetalia

Her name Is Jamie Marchi, she was well known as a leftie feminist that Made some dubs like dragón maid to contain feminist polítical propaganda.

Her alongside with Mónica rial who was the english va of belarus got also involved with some drama with greece's voice actor who was Vic mignona.

She was an important part of the original hetalia dub so how do you guys feel about her
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>>3975221
It's already not brief by virtue of your having asked this before, thus making it a running thread in the ... thread
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spacedrunk
nounoo_u
vi-6w6

>>3974544
>2p!Hetalia
It's definitely an idea.
No one person can actually encompass all the major faces of their society, so it makes sense that someone would've thought of something like this at some point.
It's also very American, or at least Anglo. The kind of headcanon that comes naturally when your country's got
(1) a large and diverse democratic political culture and
(2) high level political polarization.
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>>3975246
but how do you feel about it though
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spacedrunk
nounoo_u
vi-6w6

>>3974623
I guess it really depends on the fan artist. This one has some fairly well-developed and distinct 2ps.
Most 2p designs suck desu by virtue of feeling like the same character in a different costume

>>3975247
I wonder if their 2p Canada has a human name like Matthew and Alfred.
Regardless, I think I'll call him ... Simon Laurent.
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Something I've come across a ton in fan work is America being afraid of thunder. I've always wondered why this was a popular headcanon because I dont recall any canon stating he had a fear other than for ghosts.
>>3974544
I never really liked 2P because they were all based on headcanons where everyone is the same, but >>>edgier
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>>3974265
You can see Norway as the brocon type, if you squint enough and believe in yourself. NorIce is cute.
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>>3975288
i prefer seeing a man masturbating
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I know there Is Someone here who Hates femdom but i really suggest what would you guys think about seeing the hetalia women dominating the Male cast.

Like belarus with prussia, or hungary domingo prussia or Austria, would you like it like that.

I suggest hetalia femdom, any thoughts
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>>3975414
Why are you suggesting femdom in cute males?
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>>3975414
I've always into AmeBel, and its almost canon since Belarus had a brief obsession with America during the time she worked for him. Wish we got an actual strip for it tho.
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>>3975424
because femdom rules DOESNT IT
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>>3975414
>like it like that
yea i like it like that

In all seriousness (which is a really stupid thing to say in this context), it really depends on the charas themselves.
Belarus is a safe bet to pair with any of these idiot white boys.
More for me, not really for them.
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しゃがみ屋
Pixiv ID 3558401

>>3975429
As a non-woman-fucker, it hits a similar spot but not identical spot in the brain as Ugly Bastard, if that makes any sense.
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>>3975432
so you really think femdom is ugly just like ugly bastard
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>>3975432
That's fascinating insight. I suppose it makes sense, since the point of ugly bastards is not finding both parties attractive but watching the bottom get dommed, I guess.
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>>3975424
so do you hate femdom
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じゃこ
Pixiv ID 1064809

>>3975449
So long as it's not cartoonish

>>3975450
And impervious to being the object of my desire themselves, which is a distraction

There's also something about ugly bastards and girl doms both being like a kinda reverse Bella from Twilight, where they become vessels to some extent of my gaze upon the characters I objectify, like they're pawns of my will, but instead of being passive and submitting to Edward, being active and dominating him

Did I also mention that when I was younger, my favorite thing to do fic of was my fav charas being brutally killed
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>>3975566
so do you like it or not
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>>3975424
Coward how can you hate femdom
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>>3975731 >>3975465 >>3975429
Femdom just doesn't appeal to me
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>>3975871
so you prefer seeing men being dominated by other men
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>>3975731
I only like femdom when it's psychological/grooming. Chains and whips don't excite me.
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>>3975970
This anon gets it.

Girls wielding fetish gear is more just ... fun? Like, they're props for a music video is how I see them, at best. It's the psychological stuff underneath that actually has, like, charge for me
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Meri looking thiccer than a snicker.
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>>3976928
It's the legs

Oh, and I forget that it's summer in the Global North
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>>3974209
I think men and women should be treated equally yeah. no idea who the fuck is saying hetalia is misogynistic though kek
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>>3974142
I love russia so much it's unreal
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>>3976945
do you want misandy to be common or, just a personal question
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Which is based because he needs to strangle me with those.
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>>3976948
nah, I want everyone to be equals. I want everyone to get along or at least just ignore people they don't like. I want people to stop shit-flinging each other on every side for no reason
I also want everyone to love russia as much as I do
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>>3976970
based
>>3976928
Hima once at it again drawing them thick ass thighs
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>>3976970
How do you feel about radfems.


Ok putting that aside Is there a reason why hetalia seems to be the Holy grail of the hispánic fujoshi community
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>>3977115
>putting that aside
Can you actually put it aside, you've been non-stop politicizing these threads by asking everyone if they are or aren't a feminist and asking them what they think about feminists and feminism
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iwakisoyogo
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>>3977115
>Holy grail
As in, long lost treasure?
If you were trying to say their bread and butter, then my guess would be Hetalia's combination of high quality yaoi designs and inherently problematic nature making it kinda spicy in a funny way, as the Latin art community is not as PC as the Anglophone one, but close enough to be aware of what would be improper to say in polite society online.
Alternatively, one could view it as a periphery culture conserving an older set of norms and fashions, but that might be historically problematic for the Latin fujos.
Very different dynamic from Asian fujos, who come off as more just insensitive and offensive on accident.

Another view you could have is that Hetalia was just there during the Latin fujo golden age of the late 2000s, along with stuff like Boys Over Flowers, so it's a nostalgic deep cut
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Anyone got any fic tropes you hate?

I hate when America is flanderized just make Canada look better, especially if its one of those "Canada is a dindunuthin' and everyone is mean and forgets him :'("

Its super OOC especially since America is one of the few nations that acknowledges and loves him. I blame anime-only watchers.
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>>3977291
>OOC
I'm kinda on the fence about OOC because if you accept (1) real-life history and culture as being part of the lore and (2) the fact that Hetalia has a shaky relationship with real-life history, then the line between what is and is not OOC gets kinda blurry.
Poland is the best example, like, Hetalia Poland does not at all remind me of historical Poland, so, what do you follow here?
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>>3977294
OOC should refer to character traits that contradict how they're depicted in Hima's works. Everything else is headcanon/fanon.
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which character do you goon to femanons
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Saw art that almost made me throw up why is it always my fav that gets the most repulsive fetish fanwork?
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>>3977298
That's usually correct, but I maintain that Hetalia is a weird edge case because so much of the official lore is literally just history. You gotta have the assumption that if it happened in real history, it should have actually happened to the character, and often, such events can't not have affected their personality

It is OOC for Russia to act like Russia given that Russia is to often act unlike Russia, except when the opposite is the case, thus it may also be the case that to be like Russia, Russia is actually to be not unlike Russia. That's a bit whimsical to say, but not inaccurate: the Himacanon is often contradicted by reality, and that's just the slightest bit weird if you have even the slightest interest in Hetalia as being through the lens of history
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>>3974848
Lol. I'm gay so I MUST want third world rapists in my country shitting it up and ruining the White world. Shut the fuck up, idiot.
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>>3977491
sorry man but do you know that right wingers hate you for being a gay man
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>>3977499
And? Let them. They're too afraid of the law to do anything about it.
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>>3977502
ok i just warned you
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>>3977467
No, thats not how that works. You can create your own expectations of the Nation-tans based off their history, but its still headcanon unless Hima depicts it.
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>>3977502
>afraid of the law
The right wing ...in 2025 ...respecting the law.
Anon, if you had to guess, what direction do you think the politics of the Colorado Springs shooter leaned

The folks you have to worry about as a capital eff aye gee are not the ones who have ever in history felt themselves particularly bound by respect for rule of law. Western anti-immigration reactionaries tend to actually scorn rule of law when it stands in the way of their social agendas. Their leaders muddy and question it, their supporters spit on it, like the seditionist mob spat on the thin blue line on Jan. 6. They routinely exonerate incel shooters and spree killers like the aforementioned Colorado Springs guy because they went after acceptable targets, i.e., you

If you are among 6 dead gays shot to death by a Christian straightoid precisely because you are gay, it is no longer strange and far-fetched that the reps of those exact same movements whose anti-immigration positions you support will go on Fox to call you a pedophile and a groomer to justify your death. Whatever family you got will have their Facebook posts mourning your loss inundated by dozens of Qanonite comments insisting without evidence that they are mourning a child rapist (and apropos of nothing, but posting on the board with the multiple shota threads is a really bad look for your in memoriam). Such insane shit is so common as to not even merit news coverage

Anon, the anon is not telling you that you can't vote racist, or that voting racist is wrong, they're telling you that voting racist while gay in 2025 is not the most "self-preservation instinct 100" combo for fairly obvious reasons: a larger percentage than one would assume of the people with whom you would agree with on immigration also think that the best place for people like you is at the end of a rope. You live in an age of rising political violence and it is indescribable naivete to think that shit can't stop getting worse, because it always does
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>>3977553
I know that's not how it works, I'm just saying, it's a kinda absurd situation.
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>>3977491
Does the "white world" include Russia, because in that case, it's basically the third world at this point, really fumbled the bag with that business in Ukraine. And outside Sochi/Krasnodar-tier cities at minimum, it's basically been the third world since the 90s. And on enshittifying the "white world," I guess your political favs didn't want any competition, since between Brexit and the Trump 2 shenanigans, anti-immigration movements really are the reigning champs for ruining shit for white people. Can't let themselves be outdone by turbanned Central Park hotdog vendors and Betawi nurses at the assisted living facility
>>3976970
I love how un-Russian Russia is, it's an adorable contrast. My theory is that he was based at least partly on a very animeified reading of Razumihin
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>>3977666
No, it doesn't, actually, so you can stop your crying, shitskin. Save it for /pol/
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>>3977671
What makes you think I'm crying or that I would want to go to /pol/

Also, Slavs aren't white? Extremely interesting opinion.
I remember when I was very young, Italians were considered a type of colored folk. It was hard getting good eating back then, Italian eateries were a blessing then. I feel so spoiled now, it's not hard at all to find good ethnic food anywhere you go. I especially love that spicy Korean stuff.
The Orthodox folk have believed themselves for thousands of years to be an island of true Christianity surrounded by a sea of Saracens and Latinates. Many Eastern Slavs, today's Russians and Ukrainians, believed for the longest time that they were surrounded on all sides by Satan; it influences popular Russian rhetoric to this day, but one would need that fact pointed out to them by a Russian, as it was to me. It was almost universal in the medieval Christian psyche to believe that the end times were coming any day now. Daesh shared that belief, as do, I believe, the Salafi. They were flushed out of their holdings, Daesh, but they still exist, in what they call the Khorasan region. Graveyard of empires. I wish I had been there, with the hippies, before the Taliban took over. But alas.
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>>3977674
>thousands of years
Apologies, I mean hundreds
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>>3977674
sauce please
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Cioccolatodorima
Cioccolatoくん
Rosel d
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>>3977682
This is

sexual harrasment
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>russia x america fic I was following hasn't updated even after all these years
fuck this gay earth
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>>3977748
Isn't that the original title for APH Hetalia?
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what do you guys think about antishotacons in the hetalia fandom
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>>3978036
I didn't realize that was an issue.
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some japanese user apperently doxxed himaruya the hetalia author, do you believe in it or not.

https://x.com/coharu2023/status/1706879001003008020
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and that he supposedely is a commie

https://x.com/coharu2023/status/1715201181247512893
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>>3978472
sorry wrong link. this is the second link

https://x.com/coharu2023/status/1708353732843561189
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>>3978472
>hima being a commie
>while portraying china like this
kek no
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>>3978036
Interesting development, since previous fandom culture trended more "live and let live" liberal than "won't somebody think of the children" progressive on gender and sexuality issues
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>>3978472
How does this indicate that they are a commie

>>3978980
I mean, for Western commies, it wouldn't really be that strange. They can make sexy China.
What actually marks them is how they almost never ascribe negative qualities to the non-Western nation-tans (as a non-Westerner who is into history, I find this ever so slightly cringe).

But Hima is not a Westerner. I don't know what the culture of the Japanese left is like, especially of Hima's generation, I don't know about their views of China.
But crucially, I do know that Hima is a fudanshi, and irreverence is kinda the fujo brand
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>>3978980
Mozuniniko

>>3978469
Unsure. The evidence kinda points there, and it'd make a lot of sense: the Hima sensibility is very much classic fujo. Though Hima being a girl all along is kinda like learning that Bobby Caldwell is actually black
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>>3978989
>https://x.com/coharu2023/status/1708353732843561189
i meant his, apperently hima is a ccp chill
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>>3978993
shill i meant
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>>3978993
Again I ask, how does that make you a commie?

Most foreign CCP allies and other folks in their pocket are hardly shills because most don't seem to be communist in the slightest. In my country, the CCP shills of influence (i.e., not the loser jungle Maoists) are extremely anti-left.

More importantly, I think you are misunderstanding some cultural context.
The poster is saying Hima works for the CCP because they allege that Hima's publishing company, Shueisha, has ties to a strange religious organization called the Sako Gakkai which they allege is aligned in some way with the CCP.

Now, strange religious groups having influence in high places is not that uncommon in Japan, nor East Asia for that matter outside China: Roman Empire-style mystery religions for elites are a common thing there.
The assassination of ex-PM Abe was related to one of these strange religious groups.
There was a massive scandal in South Korea about their president being controlled by a cult.
Taiwan is full of these things.
China mostly avoids this with intense persecution, for which Falun Gong is the main target, a group which is either tiny and marginalized or immense and powerful, I don't know, that country is a bit of a blackbox.
Point is, they're everywhere, and Shueisha being tied to them would not be at all strange. I haven't seen anything about the CCP connection for Sako in particular, but I wouldn't know where to even begin to search.

Now, Shueisha: the thing to understand about Shueisha is that it is the largest publishing company in Japan. They are the fucking Shonen Jump people. This poster seems to be basically saying that anyone who works for them, from the guys who bring you One Piece to Naruto, are CCP shills, which is ... a stretch, in my view
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>>3978472
>>3978989
>>3978993
>Shueisha
according to anon all of these mangakas are ccp owned? lul
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best hetalia incest?
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Since himaruya was a big when the cry fan like what would you think of a Higurashi or umineko Collab with hetalia
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>>3979145
Norice cute
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>>3977775
ahahhahaha
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>>3979429
Jesse,... What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>3977680
Prussia makes me want to raise high the black flag.
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love spain
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>>3979429
HetaOni isn't canon but I think it would look something like that?
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>>3979617
what i said
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>>3979617
I think the moment the sentence carcrashed was in writing "when the cry fan like what" when it should've been " 'When They Cry' fan, like, what."

In fairness, the very idea of the sentence was doomed to begin with. I could easily imagine a crossover Silent Hill AU tho
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>>3979145
Caname, easy.

On a surface level, they already have a great dynamic: sweetly soft-spoken timid doe-eyed virgin and his charming, loud, self-obsessed, buff himbo golden retriever of a brother who greets him with a big suffocating hug when he remembers on occasion that, oh yeah, he exists.
It's quite the sweet treat. And if you look past the hair, you'll find there's a similar twincest vibe as the Italys
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>>3979946
Dig deeper though, and you'll find that Canada and America have probably the most complex and interesting dynamic of any of the nation-tans

For one, America is the best. That's a fact, and it's a problem.
Most hetaloid brains are busted by nature, but America's on another level as a dude whose already schizo/bipolar brain had been fried by attaining the apex of global power.
Boundless energy, ultimate power, deep-fried attention span. Absolutely exasperating.
America already knows you love him; and if you don't, he'll make you.
Obnoxiously competitive and domineering, always aiming to win and fuck and destroy.
Highly charismatic, but superficially so, sometimes unnervingly fake.
Sometimes he's cool and chill because he genuinely doesn't give a fuck.
Sometimes he spends the whole morning practicing his wink and smile in the mirror

America's the best, just a fact.
Especially compared to his brother.
When America thinks of Canada, it's with great warmth and fondness. But also the purest condescension.
The 51st state isn't a serious country to him

Then there's Canada, one of the most subtle and complex personalities of all the nation-tans: unloved and attention-starved, his deepest relationship is with his brother, a guy so into himself that he barely remembers anything about him.
Kind and quiet on the one hand, bitter and resentful on the other, with a deeply wounded ego from being the nobody brother to the magnetic, highly accomplished, most powerful nation on earth, living in a constant cycle of holding a moral high horse over America, then realizing only too late, then forgetting all too quickly, the fact that they're really more alike than they are different.
Canada's no saint, except that it's America who has the fame and the power and the respect despite being the bigger asshole.
Canada constantly says that he doesn't need America, but always wants his attention and melts over the slightest bit of his affection, and even rarer, his esteem
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Patychanbr
patynotchan
Pixiv ID 1311656
>>3979145
>>3979949
Canada is also increasingly wary of how America seems to view him at times like how Russia views Ukraine.

If you want proof that this isn't just fandom brainrot: a really good bit of analysis I found on social media noticed that, while the foreign policy of the current White House admin is largely similar to the usual bullying tactics you'd see in the unilateralist haggling with lesser powers America is used to, a closer look will find that what they really mirror is the psychosexual logic of rape.
And this is evident nowhere better than with what America wants to do with Canada, because what America wants isn't a mere movable among what Canada owns: it's territory.

What America wants is his body.
More than that, for him to submit his body to him.
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>>3979951
england, england so ugly. england i hate him. a favorite character.
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if himaruya is really a commie does that explain why he sexualized russia and china so much
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>>3979996
As I've said previously, if Hima is a commie, then you'd have to ask someone who knows what Gen X Japanese commies are like because they are going to be different from the modern Western commies that the people in this thread are familiar with.

Until you find someone willing and able to supply that info, stop asking
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>>3980019
Not the person you were answering to but i think that what the person Is trying to say Is that himaruya sexualizing characters like china way too much could be a proof of His affinity to that country, it's just that i would prefer and i really wish that himaruya turns out to be a commie to shut the retardos who think he's right wing or that hetalia Is right wing.
I would love to see them realize that hima Is most likely a leftie.
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>>3979996
>commie
>sexualized russia and china
Anon, no.

The most important thing that marks online commies is that they mock the Western states, especially England and America, as evil and worthless, but they never do the same for Russia, which is just as much a fascist colonizer, or China, which is just as much an imperial chauvinist genocidaire.

It's the universal indication of their personal biases that they always do this tiresome shit.
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>>3980043
My personal headcanon (for this real human being?) is that Hima is a centrist lib, given the simultaneous willingness to make fun of Japanese penis size combined with the insulting apathy for Korea.
I really doubt that they're a leftie given their choice to moeify Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy, which is, let's not forget, some absolutely wild shit.

God bless the Japanese educational system's total refusal to acknowledge WW2, it may be what let Hetalia exist in the first place.
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>>3980045
jixia635
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>>3979946
>>3979949
>>3979950
This is why I hate Canadafags.
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>>3979996
>>3980019
>>3980043
>>3980045
>>3980047
You faggots have to be mentally handicapped to unironically think Himaruya is a commie/leftist.
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>>3980568
I am >>3980047, why did you reply to me with that sentiment
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>>3980556
dekita_kamo
dekitakoto
dekinakattakoto
春原
Pixiv ID 181558
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>>3980556
Do you mean that you hate Canadians or that you're dyslexic and hate looking at too many letters all at once?
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>>3980600
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to@st
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I'm chilean and i Heard Someone Made a chile x Pinochet hetalia yaoi fanfic
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>>3974432
I stopped reading at "as a woman"
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>>3980600
"Canadafags," as in people who like the character. Pretty fucking obvious that you're playing dumb on purpose.
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>>3980725
Do you hate women anon kun
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>>3980726
I'm not playing dumb, anon, I'm mocking you in a fairly transparent way.
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>>3980727
No, anon loves women.
Once they saw "as a woman," they stopped reading in the confidence that whatever the woman said was true and correct by default. Because anon just loves women that much.
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30000g_ram
Pixiv ID 27448017

>>3980724
I headcanon that all the Hetaloids have been molested at least once by their heads of state.
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>>3980820
No Iam serious
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>>3980829
Oh my
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>>3980881
what
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>>3980818
Of course, because all Canadafags are passive-aggressive assholes just like their fave.
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>>3980970
Transparent means passive-aggressive?

I'm very passive-aggressive IRL because of bad parenting, but with you, anon, when I dunk on you, I try to be clear because I want you to know it

And while I like Canada, my actual favs are America for being schizo, England for being a huge bitch, Russia for being not Russia, Lithuania for being himself, and most of all, Other Turkey.
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>>3980727
Of course!
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>>3981038
Dunk on what? Your comment is coy wordplay.

And I have a hard time believing your favorite is America when you have this bad of an opinion on him. You dont deserve to like him.
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hetalia never and will never have a right wing audience but i still find it funny if there was an universe that a bluemark chud account start posting hetalia memes and even share lewd fanart of the series
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i wanna fuck spain in the ass
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>>3981105
>never and will never
Aren't these the same

>>3981093
>on what
On you.
I believe you are trying to say "What dunk?," because while you can question whether what I said was burn enough to count as such, the target is clearly you and your purported inadequacies

And isn't like 60% of dunkery just coy wordplay?
Were you stuck in Darfur for the whole Graham-Lamar feud? If so, welcome back.

And 2 of the 3 (?) replies I made weren't wordplay at all, with the part that actually was meant to dunk, to zing, to mock or what have you only being wordplay in the sense that I was using ... words
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>>3981093
>>3981093
And I don't have that bad or even harsh opinion of America, actually. You want a negative opinion of America? Tell your average 17-year old commie what I think about America, they'll call me Kissinger.

America is appealing because of his boundless genki himbo energy and unattainable golden boy good looks and hunky solid chest and big fat ass, but what really fascinates is that he is also a rich psycho manic pixie dreamgirl and magnetically charismatic lumberjack pancake stack of fundamental ideological contradictions.
His pluralist polarized 300 million person democracy manifests in a whackadoo domestic governance and deeply bipolar foreign policy that pisses off everyone who has to deal with him. Which is literally everyone.

That white boy oughta been institutionalized, but he's so hunky and so handsome, so cool and so strong, he could beat up your dad AND your mom any day of the week.
If you can't love Amechan at his worst, anon, how can you love Amechan at his other kind of worst?
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>>3980724
FlowerOk7957

>>3981105
There are rightoids in the audience, though. They're a minority and not the attention-grabbing bluemark chud types, but they're there.
And on that point, I don't know if I hallucinated this or not, but I swear I saw this program on Russian state TV where they flashed a pic of Hetarussia. It was one of the most powerful moments of my life.
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Which hetaloid would you molest
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>>3981478
Not France.

England, I would run over with my Ford Taurus. Nothing personal.
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do you guys think himaruya is a based author
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>>3980822
For some reason, Chinokio really makes me laugh
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>>3982206
he may or not have hatred on his mind on the fandom he created …
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>>3982225
No i mean towards koreans
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>>3982231
forgive my retardation… but i do think that Hima was unaware when portraying South Korea at that time, and considering the Japanese educational system and the environment he grew up as well. He probably didn’t know it wouldve cause damages before it was too late
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>>3981388
??? That Netherlands pic was drawn by Himaruya himself.
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Romania has such a good design, he deserves more attention
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>>3982404
Whoops, my bad
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It feels so alone being one of the few males that enyojs the franchise
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>>3982405
romania can steal my walllet anytime
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>>3984537
I'm sure there are more of us
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>>3984537
Just how many men enjoy hetalia?,
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>>3984680
I did when I was in my teens through age of 21 but haven't watched it since.
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>>3984683
Do you still find the characters hot
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>>3984683
The concept of male hetaloid fans still surprises me
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>>3984680
at least two
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>>3974835
that might be me
are you the chilean anon?

>>3977370
america
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Do you guys think at least one of the nations have raceplay before
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>>3985729
england is the ultimate raceplayer
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