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If there Is any Male here like myself how did you experiences hetalia and how did it change your life personally, it's just that i love these dorls
>>3974154Dorks
>>3974154really made me think about what a country is exactly
>>3974157And they are all hot, which awakened my gay self
>>3974145Romano is all mine.
>>3974154I experienced it through my first girlfriend during high school about eleven years ago. Started watching the episodes on Crunchyroll thereafter, but haven't paid much attention to it since. I still have a Hetalia manga somewhere, it being one of three of any manga that I own at all.
what do hetalians think about feminism and feminists in general, especially since some say hetalia is mysoginistic
>>3974152Why do u do thisno one asked for sauce
>>3974209i dont know how to feel feel about feminism dude but i also dont know if im the only hetalian that dislikes feminism so i dont know what to think about it dude
>>3974209I'm a liberal feminist that supports the 4B movement, so there's that.
>>3974245Forgot to add, I dont know why anyone would think that Hetalia is misogynistic except for the fact that not many female nations exist. The latter explains itself by most of the world being ruled by men.
>>3974209Hetalia isn't misogynistic like AT ALL.. Also I think feminism is kinda dumb because it's just gone too far to where I see women saying kill all men so I'm not a feminist
>>3974249You know "kill all men" is just a response to incels, right? True feminism doesn't support that.
>>3974249based hetalian antifeminist i want more of them
>>3974209>what do hetalians think about feminismI would like to have and keep my rights so that I can look at yaoi, other than that I don't really care about the topic.>some say hetalia is mysoginisticDon't know why. I kinda wish there were only male characters in heralia because I'm salty about the only canon brocons being women (imagine carrots and sticks being sung by cute guys) but I don't see how the show is misogynistic.
>>3974265what do you think about people being misandrist, is it good or bad
>>3974233The artists provide the world these things for free, saucing is the least we can do
>>3974266I mean, I think actual honest to God "kill all men" misandry is just unrealistic and thus kinda dumb, the sexes will never fully separate and it's useless to hate such a massive and vastly differing group of people. But if someone wants to live a man free life or bitch on 4chan about hating moids, that's your life man, I feel the same about seething about foids. So long as your open to having your opinions challenged and aren't planning to commit sex based hate crimes I don't care that much.
>>3974269>planning to commit sex based hate crimes I don't care that much.But women aren't doing this lol
>>3974265I'm tired of people saying we need more women in hetalia I just want men.. Imagine a cute obsessive male Belarus or CanUkr which is a ship I like but with Nyo!Ukraine
>>3974270Yeah I meant that more in general with both misogyny or misandry. I dunno, hatred often leads to violence but you can't stop peoples hatred or perfectly anticipate what they'll do with it. So like, hating groups of people is generally bad but I can't stop you, and if you don't try to do anything fucked up then I don't care that much.
>>3974246I dunno, I don't think that's a good explanation.Getting the real reason out of the way (the creator is a fudanshi and this is a fujo series) and focusing just on diegetics, that would mean that the Hetaloids are purely based on the elite leadership classes, and that just doesn't seem right. A lot of ex-colonial states would be basically white in that caseAnd I do think that a near-total lack of girl representation is an issue, but I'm not whipping out the big MPersonally, I really dislike the gender balance we get from Hima's fudanshi brain: every time I hear or see personifications of India and the Philippines elsewhere, they're almost always women. But here, they're men, so it kinda throws me for a loopIt's not lore-breaking for me, because by the standards Hetalia has already set, there should be, like, thousands of nation-tans we just never see, so I headcanon a lot more women.Like, Prussia exists? Then we should have Bavaria, right?Scotland exists? Then we should have Sarawak.South Italy exists? Then where is South India?They must exist, and I imagine them as girls
>>3974266Good in the same way being a Polish-Lithuanian cavalry archer is good in 2025, because it's not really a thingMisandry in effect doesn't really exist, at least not in the same way that misogyny does. There are no major socio-structural institutions that follow it beyond esoteric political cliques. What you call misandry is a performative signalling of terminally online niche groups with no real influence that has no bearing on reality, unlike misogyny, which thrives off of extant patriarchal structuresWhat is one Valerie Solanas to the assuredly millions of women all over the world in just the last decade killed by men for no reason more complex than because they were women?
>>3974278i mean there was a case of two feminists in argentina that killed their son
>>3974279its the lucio dupuy case look it up
Sauce please for smug England stepping on you>>3974269Not just unrealistic, it's just not real. There are no major feminist groups with national influence outside South Korea (the most insanely gender-polarized nation on Planet earth) that make total separation a major policy platform, and only tiny minorities of citizens who take those ideas seriously.However, there have been major political groups in every country and society in the world with huge backing from the population, including from women, that advocate for decreasing women's rights ever since democracy was a thing, and before that, it was just a given that you as a woman were a second-class citizen at best.To think that misandry existed as a social force was understandable for a normie centrist who didn't actually watch the news in 2016, but it's far sillier in 2025 in the midst of the global resurgence of fascism>>3974273>can't stop peoples hatredLib spotted.Yes, you can, anon, it's called mass education. You can train bigotry in and you can train it out. It's worked before and it can work again because it still doesYou young people and your goddamn generation keep taking as a given the stagnation of these extremely successful systems of modernity
>>3974282commie detected
>>3974279See the Valerie Solanas analogy.Do you wanna hear about honor killings from ancient China and Rome to the modern Islamosphere and Brazil?It's literally legal in my country as a consequence of some very old laws on marriage. We are not even that conservative
>>3974245I think 4B is dumb and I will still support it because of how bad things have gotten in the past 5 years. Godspeed, you, Korean wackos>>3974272It's less interesting, though. The gendered dynamics of the petite feminine Belarus and big burly Russia are what make it work so well. A twink has a different vibe, the weird dynamics of heterosexuality are a boon to the ship
>>3974282Im mostly just being a centrist to not upset anyone itt. Im not a lib or anything, im not political.
>>3974286Sorry, when I said lib, I meant centrist, since liberalism kiiinda trends centrist in the US. Like, I would've said Bill Maher liberal, but Maher's gone the crank pundit route as of late instead of whatever Tapper et al. are doing, so I'm looking for a new way to describe it>>3974285Minor sudden headcanon, I kinda like the idea of the fairly mild and sweet Russia (the guy) being a little at odds with the uber masculine modern Russia (the country) and feeling the need to be more aggressive, like, say, Germany, Turkey, and America (the guys). It's a bit cute
>>3974270look up lucio dupuy
>>3974245heartal He_Art___>>3974285xxwdf>>3974265imai_aph>>3974269f_lily19 g_lily15 ふうき Pixiv ID 14505100>>3974270unicorn_chenji>>3974272Pixiv ID 8984470>>3974286九厥 Pixiv ID 63982958>>3974250>>3974246where-are-the-pixelsDo not take me to this fucking hospital.
>>3974303unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/UN_BriefFem_251121.pdf
>>3974305im not talking about which suffers more but saying that no person has ever killed a male out of male hatred is simply false
Holy shit this is kinda stupid. I dont wanna hear your terrible Pick Me takes.>>3974303>fringe occurrence compared to the million cases of femicide
>>3974307Yeah but so irrelevantly rare as to really not be a thing, that's the point.What matters isn't exceptional individuals but systemic patterns, and there really is no huge systemic pattern of misandrist violence that's of any concern to law enforcement.And if we're going with the most broad understanding of the original statement, it IS true that "women aren't doing this."Because while disparate groups of women kill men misandristly, women as a collective don't kill men misogynistically, while men as a collective do routinely kill women: there is nothing even close to an equivalent for incel spree killers and mass rape in war, and that's just killing and raping. There has never been anything close to a reverse-equivalent to the way men treated women like chattel in any society in any period in history>>3974308XD_AzNaD
>>3974308but its true
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>>3974363As he declared British involvement in the Bush administration's decision to invade, PM Blair felt a pang of heat in his stomach and a stirring in his loins, the reasons for which, he could not place
Stop fighting for a minute and celebrate Hetalia 19th Anniversary. How did you find about Hetalia? Any good memory you have as a fan?
>>3974379I found out about hetalia late (compared to the peak of the fandom), watched it a few years ago and liked it but wasn't obsessed until rewatching it sometime last year.I wish I had engaged with it earlier because the fandom seemed mostly fun, at least I can watch all the old stuff people madehttps://youtu.be/2trFmN6wBjQ?si=gyqLz74lz63hzH2_
>>3974379Discovered Hetalia in middle school in 2019, but I was too shy to talk to anyone about my interests so I've just been quietly lurking in the fandom this whole time. Despite being lonely I've had many good memories as Hetalia cheered me up during difficult times with it's silliness and content older fans left behind
So is this show just countryballs but with anime boys? Is it political at all?
>>3974209I kinda despise feminism but i don't see how Is that important
>>3974209As a woman, feminism based. Cute 2D country anime men who can't hurt me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3DPD. That being said KAM radfems are retarded and unrealistic.
>>3974379I honestly heard about it in a Italian youtuber video about anime about Italy in 2013, so I checked out
>>3974432Eww feminist
>>3974379I discovered Hetalia in 2008 thanks to the threads on /cm/. Time sure flies. And I never engage much with the fandom outside of /cm/. I kind of regret it, to be honest.
>>3974456Why don't you engage with the fandom
>>3974462I never had anything to add to the discussing. Not really into history or know much about other countries. But I want to start posting fanart, maybe later this year.
>>3974476Hey are you the same guy that said that he discovered hetalia thanks to His girlfriends
>>3974245Nice. I support 4B too. Women should leave men alone.
>>3974479Based hetalians antifeminist
Post art and dont have a retarded gender war in a cm hetalia thread.
>>3974395Do you know how I can tell you're a zoomer?
>>3974478Nah.
>>3974489So just another femanon
>>3974487You can tell I'm a zoomer because I'm retarded and mentioned Reddit zoomershit in your high quality thread. I'm sorry, oldfag-kun.You should watch Year Hare Affair. It's like He Talia but they're animals.
>Hetalia thread somehow became the fastest-moving thread on /cm/A future I did not forsee, I'll tell you that.
>>3974497Furry yaoi?>>3974534A bright future.. We gotta keep this upHow about we talk about our opinion on 2p! Hetalia ??
>>3974413That anon has a weird fixation on politics despite not being, like, into getting deep into it like at all. Constantly brings it up, never gets deep into any, like, ideas, it's just vibes and whining>>3974432All feminism that deserves the name is radical as the very thesis thereof is inherently disruptive to the most deeply rooted structures of oppressionBut yeah, feminism anon, in practice, most folks who call themselves "radfems" are just antisocial weirdos with fringe, often yikes views, let's not give them attention, that's just what the enemy wants
>>3974395No, countryballs is Hetalia with circles.
>>3974534>>3974544It was bound to happen, Hetalia is as core /cm/ as Evangelion
>>3974395>Is it politicalIt once caused a diplomatic spat between South Korea and Japan, does that count?
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>>3974594idk so are you saying you are feminist or that feminsm has yikes ideas
>>3974544Hard to get invested in because its mostly disconnected fanon but i like some of the designs. Id like it more if there was more to build off of
Is there any hetalians here that Is not a leftie, that's what i gathered from this thread
>>3974596is it really true that hetalia is just that important to the cute male board
>>3974715Oh, I meant cm as in cute male, in that it is a relatively early and highly successful piece of fujobait with very strong longevity.On /cm/, it's more an on-again, off-again thing.It's a messy bitch of a franchise that may not always be on the non-secret menu, but is always on the backburner of cute-male content and pops up in the weirdest places in the strangest and dumbest ways.i.e., https://www.herts.ac.uk/research/groups-and-units/critical-humanities-and-international-politics/world-relations-for-2020/wr2050-12-december-2022
>>3974774Sorry, I meant e.g.
>>3974774Point is, the mere mention of Hetalia is an activation trigger that overwhelms the mind of even your most ardently proship DNI in bio late-millennial girl Twitterite with irresistible thoughts of problematic gay anime sex
>>3974673anon i think everyone on this thread is aleftie
>>3974779Is this a self-reply
>>3974780no
>>3974781oh ok
>>3974779Lol I know what you are trying to say but i find it upsseting that almost everyone here has the same Views, no variety
>>3974811What do you meanThere are at least 4 distinct views hereYou and the other anon are center-rightists, and there's at least another person who is a very much a 90s-style Maher-type liberal rightistThere are 2-3 lib/left-leaning anons with feminist sympathies, myself included. I am an aggressively feminist terrorlib, the other/s is/are more center-leaning liberals, but also into 4B, which I have my reasons for not being intoThere are a couple of "I just wanna grill" centristsBut the clear majority wants everyone to just shut the fuck up about politics that's not relevant to literal international homosexSo what do you mean "the same Views" and "no variety"? Are you reading any of these other replies before posting
>>3974816are you the mexican femanon i talked to that told me they were mexican
>>3974835Must you know the exact details of every anon you reply to?
>>3974838Kinda just curious
>>3974779People who like cute males are gay men and women. Being right wing is retarded for both of those groups
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>>3974862Best boy
>>3974848nah there can absolutely be right wingers
>>3974947What part of your statement is meant to refute the above
>>3974862XD_AzNaD>>3975092sana79261827 Pixiv ID 50456658>>3974883mandh_002>>3974838ennui160
>>3975120you cant say its retarded just because our traits
>>3974157A Male? in the hetalia fandom
Ok so I'll be very brief with this.How do you feel about the woman who voiced the narrador in the dub of hetalia Her name Is Jamie Marchi, she was well known as a leftie feminist that Made some dubs like dragón maid to contain feminist polítical propaganda.Her alongside with Mónica rial who was the english va of belarus got also involved with some drama with greece's voice actor who was Vic mignona.She was an important part of the original hetalia dub so how do you guys feel about her
>>3975221It's already not brief by virtue of your having asked this before, thus making it a running thread in the ... thread
spacedrunk nounoo_u vi-6w6 >>3974544>2p!HetaliaIt's definitely an idea.No one person can actually encompass all the major faces of their society, so it makes sense that someone would've thought of something like this at some point.It's also very American, or at least Anglo. The kind of headcanon that comes naturally when your country's got (1) a large and diverse democratic political culture and(2) high level political polarization.
>>3975246but how do you feel about it though
spacedrunk nounoo_u vi-6w6 >>3974623I guess it really depends on the fan artist. This one has some fairly well-developed and distinct 2ps. Most 2p designs suck desu by virtue of feeling like the same character in a different costume>>3975247I wonder if their 2p Canada has a human name like Matthew and Alfred.Regardless, I think I'll call him ... Simon Laurent.
Something I've come across a ton in fan work is America being afraid of thunder. I've always wondered why this was a popular headcanon because I dont recall any canon stating he had a fear other than for ghosts.>>3974544I never really liked 2P because they were all based on headcanons where everyone is the same, but >>>edgier
>>3974265You can see Norway as the brocon type, if you squint enough and believe in yourself. NorIce is cute.
>>3975288i prefer seeing a man masturbating
I know there Is Someone here who Hates femdom but i really suggest what would you guys think about seeing the hetalia women dominating the Male cast.Like belarus with prussia, or hungary domingo prussia or Austria, would you like it like that.I suggest hetalia femdom, any thoughts
>>3975414Why are you suggesting femdom in cute males?
>>3975414I've always into AmeBel, and its almost canon since Belarus had a brief obsession with America during the time she worked for him. Wish we got an actual strip for it tho.
>>3975424because femdom rules DOESNT IT
>>3975414>like it like thatyea i like it like thatIn all seriousness (which is a really stupid thing to say in this context), it really depends on the charas themselves.Belarus is a safe bet to pair with any of these idiot white boys.More for me, not really for them.
しゃがみ屋 Pixiv ID 3558401>>3975429As a non-woman-fucker, it hits a similar spot but not identical spot in the brain as Ugly Bastard, if that makes any sense.
>>3975432so you really think femdom is ugly just like ugly bastard
>>3975432That's fascinating insight. I suppose it makes sense, since the point of ugly bastards is not finding both parties attractive but watching the bottom get dommed, I guess.
>>3975424so do you hate femdom
じゃこ Pixiv ID 1064809>>3975449So long as it's not cartoonish>>3975450And impervious to being the object of my desire themselves, which is a distractionThere's also something about ugly bastards and girl doms both being like a kinda reverse Bella from Twilight, where they become vessels to some extent of my gaze upon the characters I objectify, like they're pawns of my will, but instead of being passive and submitting to Edward, being active and dominating himDid I also mention that when I was younger, my favorite thing to do fic of was my fav charas being brutally killed
>>3975566so do you like it or not
>>3975424Coward how can you hate femdom
>>3975731 >>3975465 >>3975429Femdom just doesn't appeal to me
>>3975871so you prefer seeing men being dominated by other men
>>3975731I only like femdom when it's psychological/grooming. Chains and whips don't excite me.
>>3975970This anon gets it.Girls wielding fetish gear is more just ... fun? Like, they're props for a music video is how I see them, at best. It's the psychological stuff underneath that actually has, like, charge for me
Hima twt update.Meri looking thiccer than a snicker.
>>3976928It's the legsOh, and I forget that it's summer in the Global North
>>3974209I think men and women should be treated equally yeah. no idea who the fuck is saying hetalia is misogynistic though kek
>>3974142I love russia so much it's unreal
>>3976945do you want misandy to be common or, just a personal question
>>3976933Which is based because he needs to strangle me with those.
>>3976948nah, I want everyone to be equals. I want everyone to get along or at least just ignore people they don't like. I want people to stop shit-flinging each other on every side for no reasonI also want everyone to love russia as much as I do
>>3976970based>>3976928Hima once at it again drawing them thick ass thighs
>>3976970How do you feel about radfems.Ok putting that aside Is there a reason why hetalia seems to be the Holy grail of the hispánic fujoshi community
>>3977115>putting that asideCan you actually put it aside, you've been non-stop politicizing these threads by asking everyone if they are or aren't a feminist and asking them what they think about feminists and feminism
iwakisoyogo Pixiv ID 389404>>3977115>Holy grailAs in, long lost treasure?If you were trying to say their bread and butter, then my guess would be Hetalia's combination of high quality yaoi designs and inherently problematic nature making it kinda spicy in a funny way, as the Latin art community is not as PC as the Anglophone one, but close enough to be aware of what would be improper to say in polite society online. Alternatively, one could view it as a periphery culture conserving an older set of norms and fashions, but that might be historically problematic for the Latin fujos.Very different dynamic from Asian fujos, who come off as more just insensitive and offensive on accident.Another view you could have is that Hetalia was just there during the Latin fujo golden age of the late 2000s, along with stuff like Boys Over Flowers, so it's a nostalgic deep cut
Anyone got any fic tropes you hate? I hate when America is flanderized just make Canada look better, especially if its one of those "Canada is a dindunuthin' and everyone is mean and forgets him :'(" Its super OOC especially since America is one of the few nations that acknowledges and loves him. I blame anime-only watchers.
>>3977291>OOCI'm kinda on the fence about OOC because if you accept (1) real-life history and culture as being part of the lore and (2) the fact that Hetalia has a shaky relationship with real-life history, then the line between what is and is not OOC gets kinda blurry.Poland is the best example, like, Hetalia Poland does not at all remind me of historical Poland, so, what do you follow here?
>>3977294OOC should refer to character traits that contradict how they're depicted in Hima's works. Everything else is headcanon/fanon.
which character do you goon to femanons
Saw art that almost made me throw up why is it always my fav that gets the most repulsive fetish fanwork?
>>3977298That's usually correct, but I maintain that Hetalia is a weird edge case because so much of the official lore is literally just history. You gotta have the assumption that if it happened in real history, it should have actually happened to the character, and often, such events can't not have affected their personalityIt is OOC for Russia to act like Russia given that Russia is to often act unlike Russia, except when the opposite is the case, thus it may also be the case that to be like Russia, Russia is actually to be not unlike Russia. That's a bit whimsical to say, but not inaccurate: the Himacanon is often contradicted by reality, and that's just the slightest bit weird if you have even the slightest interest in Hetalia as being through the lens of history
>>3974848Lol. I'm gay so I MUST want third world rapists in my country shitting it up and ruining the White world. Shut the fuck up, idiot.
>>3977491sorry man but do you know that right wingers hate you for being a gay man
>>3977499And? Let them. They're too afraid of the law to do anything about it.
>>3977502ok i just warned you
>>3977467No, thats not how that works. You can create your own expectations of the Nation-tans based off their history, but its still headcanon unless Hima depicts it.
>>3977502>afraid of the lawThe right wing ...in 2025 ...respecting the law.Anon, if you had to guess, what direction do you think the politics of the Colorado Springs shooter leanedThe folks you have to worry about as a capital eff aye gee are not the ones who have ever in history felt themselves particularly bound by respect for rule of law. Western anti-immigration reactionaries tend to actually scorn rule of law when it stands in the way of their social agendas. Their leaders muddy and question it, their supporters spit on it, like the seditionist mob spat on the thin blue line on Jan. 6. They routinely exonerate incel shooters and spree killers like the aforementioned Colorado Springs guy because they went after acceptable targets, i.e., youIf you are among 6 dead gays shot to death by a Christian straightoid precisely because you are gay, it is no longer strange and far-fetched that the reps of those exact same movements whose anti-immigration positions you support will go on Fox to call you a pedophile and a groomer to justify your death. Whatever family you got will have their Facebook posts mourning your loss inundated by dozens of Qanonite comments insisting without evidence that they are mourning a child rapist (and apropos of nothing, but posting on the board with the multiple shota threads is a really bad look for your in memoriam). Such insane shit is so common as to not even merit news coverageAnon, the anon is not telling you that you can't vote racist, or that voting racist is wrong, they're telling you that voting racist while gay in 2025 is not the most "self-preservation instinct 100" combo for fairly obvious reasons: a larger percentage than one would assume of the people with whom you would agree with on immigration also think that the best place for people like you is at the end of a rope. You live in an age of rising political violence and it is indescribable naivete to think that shit can't stop getting worse, because it always does
>>3977553I know that's not how it works, I'm just saying, it's a kinda absurd situation.
xiyangmengjing>>3977491Does the "white world" include Russia, because in that case, it's basically the third world at this point, really fumbled the bag with that business in Ukraine. And outside Sochi/Krasnodar-tier cities at minimum, it's basically been the third world since the 90s. And on enshittifying the "white world," I guess your political favs didn't want any competition, since between Brexit and the Trump 2 shenanigans, anti-immigration movements really are the reigning champs for ruining shit for white people. Can't let themselves be outdone by turbanned Central Park hotdog vendors and Betawi nurses at the assisted living facility>>3976970I love how un-Russian Russia is, it's an adorable contrast. My theory is that he was based at least partly on a very animeified reading of Razumihin
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>>3977666No, it doesn't, actually, so you can stop your crying, shitskin. Save it for /pol/
russianiko jixia635
>>3977671What makes you think I'm crying or that I would want to go to /pol/Also, Slavs aren't white? Extremely interesting opinion.I remember when I was very young, Italians were considered a type of colored folk. It was hard getting good eating back then, Italian eateries were a blessing then. I feel so spoiled now, it's not hard at all to find good ethnic food anywhere you go. I especially love that spicy Korean stuff.The Orthodox folk have believed themselves for thousands of years to be an island of true Christianity surrounded by a sea of Saracens and Latinates. Many Eastern Slavs, today's Russians and Ukrainians, believed for the longest time that they were surrounded on all sides by Satan; it influences popular Russian rhetoric to this day, but one would need that fact pointed out to them by a Russian, as it was to me. It was almost universal in the medieval Christian psyche to believe that the end times were coming any day now. Daesh shared that belief, as do, I believe, the Salafi. They were flushed out of their holdings, Daesh, but they still exist, in what they call the Khorasan region. Graveyard of empires. I wish I had been there, with the hippies, before the Taliban took over. But alas.
>>3977674>thousands of yearsApologies, I mean hundreds
AKuzuroSo pathetic, he should be slapped.>>3977674sauce please
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>>3977682This issexual harrasment
>russia x america fic I was following hasn't updated even after all these yearsfuck this gay earth
>>3977748Isn't that the original title for APH Hetalia?
what do you guys think about antishotacons in the hetalia fandom
>>3978036I didn't realize that was an issue.
some japanese user apperently doxxed himaruya the hetalia author, do you believe in it or not.https://x.com/coharu2023/status/1706879001003008020
and that he supposedely is a commie https://x.com/coharu2023/status/1715201181247512893
>>3978472sorry wrong link. this is the second linkhttps://x.com/coharu2023/status/1708353732843561189
>>3978472>hima being a commie>while portraying china like thiskek no
>>3978036Interesting development, since previous fandom culture trended more "live and let live" liberal than "won't somebody think of the children" progressive on gender and sexuality issues
30000g_ram g Pixiv ID 27448017>>3978472How does this indicate that they are a commie>>3978980I mean, for Western commies, it wouldn't really be that strange. They can make sexy China.What actually marks them is how they almost never ascribe negative qualities to the non-Western nation-tans (as a non-Westerner who is into history, I find this ever so slightly cringe).But Hima is not a Westerner. I don't know what the culture of the Japanese left is like, especially of Hima's generation, I don't know about their views of China.But crucially, I do know that Hima is a fudanshi, and irreverence is kinda the fujo brand
>>3978980Mozuniniko>>3978469Unsure. The evidence kinda points there, and it'd make a lot of sense: the Hima sensibility is very much classic fujo. Though Hima being a girl all along is kinda like learning that Bobby Caldwell is actually black
>>3978989>https://x.com/coharu2023/status/1708353732843561189i meant his, apperently hima is a ccp chill
>>3978993shill i meant
Quxiaochong>>3978993Again I ask, how does that make you a commie?Most foreign CCP allies and other folks in their pocket are hardly shills because most don't seem to be communist in the slightest. In my country, the CCP shills of influence (i.e., not the loser jungle Maoists) are extremely anti-left.More importantly, I think you are misunderstanding some cultural context.The poster is saying Hima works for the CCP because they allege that Hima's publishing company, Shueisha, has ties to a strange religious organization called the Sako Gakkai which they allege is aligned in some way with the CCP.Now, strange religious groups having influence in high places is not that uncommon in Japan, nor East Asia for that matter outside China: Roman Empire-style mystery religions for elites are a common thing there.The assassination of ex-PM Abe was related to one of these strange religious groups.There was a massive scandal in South Korea about their president being controlled by a cult. Taiwan is full of these things.China mostly avoids this with intense persecution, for which Falun Gong is the main target, a group which is either tiny and marginalized or immense and powerful, I don't know, that country is a bit of a blackbox.Point is, they're everywhere, and Shueisha being tied to them would not be at all strange. I haven't seen anything about the CCP connection for Sako in particular, but I wouldn't know where to even begin to search.Now, Shueisha: the thing to understand about Shueisha is that it is the largest publishing company in Japan. They are the fucking Shonen Jump people. This poster seems to be basically saying that anyone who works for them, from the guys who bring you One Piece to Naruto, are CCP shills, which is ... a stretch, in my view
>>3978472>>3978989>>3978993>Shueishaaccording to anon all of these mangakas are ccp owned? lul
best hetalia incest?
Since himaruya was a big when the cry fan like what would you think of a Higurashi or umineko Collab with hetalia
>>3979145Norice cute
>>3977775ahahhahaha
>>3979429Jesse,... What the fuck are you talking about?
>>3977680Prussia makes me want to raise high the black flag.
love spain
>>3979429HetaOni isn't canon but I think it would look something like that?
>>3979617what i said
>>3979617I think the moment the sentence carcrashed was in writing "when the cry fan like what" when it should've been " 'When They Cry' fan, like, what."In fairness, the very idea of the sentence was doomed to begin with. I could easily imagine a crossover Silent Hill AU tho
Pixiv ID 1311656>>3979145Caname, easy.On a surface level, they already have a great dynamic: sweetly soft-spoken timid doe-eyed virgin and his charming, loud, self-obsessed, buff himbo golden retriever of a brother who greets him with a big suffocating hug when he remembers on occasion that, oh yeah, he exists.It's quite the sweet treat. And if you look past the hair, you'll find there's a similar twincest vibe as the Italys
>>3979145>>3979946Dig deeper though, and you'll find that Canada and America have probably the most complex and interesting dynamic of any of the nation-tansFor one, America is the best. That's a fact, and it's a problem.Most hetaloid brains are busted by nature, but America's on another level as a dude whose already schizo/bipolar brain had been fried by attaining the apex of global power.Boundless energy, ultimate power, deep-fried attention span. Absolutely exasperating. America already knows you love him; and if you don't, he'll make you.Obnoxiously competitive and domineering, always aiming to win and fuck and destroy.Highly charismatic, but superficially so, sometimes unnervingly fake.Sometimes he's cool and chill because he genuinely doesn't give a fuck.Sometimes he spends the whole morning practicing his wink and smile in the mirrorAmerica's the best, just a fact.Especially compared to his brother.When America thinks of Canada, it's with great warmth and fondness. But also the purest condescension.The 51st state isn't a serious country to himThen there's Canada, one of the most subtle and complex personalities of all the nation-tans: unloved and attention-starved, his deepest relationship is with his brother, a guy so into himself that he barely remembers anything about him.Kind and quiet on the one hand, bitter and resentful on the other, with a deeply wounded ego from being the nobody brother to the magnetic, highly accomplished, most powerful nation on earth, living in a constant cycle of holding a moral high horse over America, then realizing only too late, then forgetting all too quickly, the fact that they're really more alike than they are different.Canada's no saint, except that it's America who has the fame and the power and the respect despite being the bigger asshole.Canada constantly says that he doesn't need America, but always wants his attention and melts over the slightest bit of his affection, and even rarer, his esteem
Patychanbr patynotchan Pixiv ID 1311656 >>3979145>>3979949Canada is also increasingly wary of how America seems to view him at times like how Russia views Ukraine.If you want proof that this isn't just fandom brainrot: a really good bit of analysis I found on social media noticed that, while the foreign policy of the current White House admin is largely similar to the usual bullying tactics you'd see in the unilateralist haggling with lesser powers America is used to, a closer look will find that what they really mirror is the psychosexual logic of rape. And this is evident nowhere better than with what America wants to do with Canada, because what America wants isn't a mere movable among what Canada owns: it's territory.What America wants is his body.More than that, for him to submit his body to him.
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>>3979951england, england so ugly. england i hate him. a favorite character.
if himaruya is really a commie does that explain why he sexualized russia and china so much
>>3979996As I've said previously, if Hima is a commie, then you'd have to ask someone who knows what Gen X Japanese commies are like because they are going to be different from the modern Western commies that the people in this thread are familiar with.Until you find someone willing and able to supply that info, stop asking
>>3980019Not the person you were answering to but i think that what the person Is trying to say Is that himaruya sexualizing characters like china way too much could be a proof of His affinity to that country, it's just that i would prefer and i really wish that himaruya turns out to be a commie to shut the retardos who think he's right wing or that hetalia Is right wing.I would love to see them realize that hima Is most likely a leftie.
>>3979996>commie>sexualized russia and chinaAnon, no.The most important thing that marks online commies is that they mock the Western states, especially England and America, as evil and worthless, but they never do the same for Russia, which is just as much a fascist colonizer, or China, which is just as much an imperial chauvinist genocidaire.It's the universal indication of their personal biases that they always do this tiresome shit.
>>3980043My personal headcanon (for this real human being?) is that Hima is a centrist lib, given the simultaneous willingness to make fun of Japanese penis size combined with the insulting apathy for Korea.I really doubt that they're a leftie given their choice to moeify Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy, which is, let's not forget, some absolutely wild shit.God bless the Japanese educational system's total refusal to acknowledge WW2, it may be what let Hetalia exist in the first place.
>>3980045jixia635 russianiko
>>3979946>>3979949>>3979950This is why I hate Canadafags.
>>3979996>>3980019>>3980043>>3980045>>3980047You faggots have to be mentally handicapped to unironically think Himaruya is a commie/leftist.
>>3980568I am >>3980047, why did you reply to me with that sentiment
>>3980556dekita_kamo dekitakoto dekinakattakoto 春原 Pixiv ID 181558
>>3980556Do you mean that you hate Canadians or that you're dyslexic and hate looking at too many letters all at once?
>>3980600potatoserver404 to@stlittleb623 Pixiv ID 9196331
I'm chilean and i Heard Someone Made a chile x Pinochet hetalia yaoi fanfic
>>3974432I stopped reading at "as a woman"
>>3980600"Canadafags," as in people who like the character. Pretty fucking obvious that you're playing dumb on purpose.
>>3980725Do you hate women anon kun
>>3980726I'm not playing dumb, anon, I'm mocking you in a fairly transparent way.
>>3980727No, anon loves women.Once they saw "as a woman," they stopped reading in the confidence that whatever the woman said was true and correct by default. Because anon just loves women that much.
30000g_ram Pixiv ID 27448017>>3980724I headcanon that all the Hetaloids have been molested at least once by their heads of state.
>>3980820No Iam serious
>>3980829Oh my
>>3980881what
>>3980818Of course, because all Canadafags are passive-aggressive assholes just like their fave.
>>3980970Transparent means passive-aggressive?I'm very passive-aggressive IRL because of bad parenting, but with you, anon, when I dunk on you, I try to be clear because I want you to know itAnd while I like Canada, my actual favs are America for being schizo, England for being a huge bitch, Russia for being not Russia, Lithuania for being himself, and most of all, Other Turkey.
>>3980727Of course!
>>3981038Dunk on what? Your comment is coy wordplay. And I have a hard time believing your favorite is America when you have this bad of an opinion on him. You dont deserve to like him.
hetalia never and will never have a right wing audience but i still find it funny if there was an universe that a bluemark chud account start posting hetalia memes and even share lewd fanart of the series
i wanna fuck spain in the ass
>>3981105>never and will neverAren't these the same>>3981093>on whatOn you.I believe you are trying to say "What dunk?," because while you can question whether what I said was burn enough to count as such, the target is clearly you and your purported inadequaciesAnd isn't like 60% of dunkery just coy wordplay?Were you stuck in Darfur for the whole Graham-Lamar feud? If so, welcome back.And 2 of the 3 (?) replies I made weren't wordplay at all, with the part that actually was meant to dunk, to zing, to mock or what have you only being wordplay in the sense that I was using ... words
>>3981093>>3981093And I don't have that bad or even harsh opinion of America, actually. You want a negative opinion of America? Tell your average 17-year old commie what I think about America, they'll call me Kissinger.America is appealing because of his boundless genki himbo energy and unattainable golden boy good looks and hunky solid chest and big fat ass, but what really fascinates is that he is also a rich psycho manic pixie dreamgirl and magnetically charismatic lumberjack pancake stack of fundamental ideological contradictions.His pluralist polarized 300 million person democracy manifests in a whackadoo domestic governance and deeply bipolar foreign policy that pisses off everyone who has to deal with him. Which is literally everyone.That white boy oughta been institutionalized, but he's so hunky and so handsome, so cool and so strong, he could beat up your dad AND your mom any day of the week. If you can't love Amechan at his worst, anon, how can you love Amechan at his other kind of worst?
>>3980724FlowerOk7957>>3981105There are rightoids in the audience, though. They're a minority and not the attention-grabbing bluemark chud types, but they're there.And on that point, I don't know if I hallucinated this or not, but I swear I saw this program on Russian state TV where they flashed a pic of Hetarussia. It was one of the most powerful moments of my life.
Which hetaloid would you molest
>>3981478Not France.England, I would run over with my Ford Taurus. Nothing personal.
do you guys think himaruya is a based author
>>3980822For some reason, Chinokio really makes me laugh
Do you think himaruya has hate on His mind
>>3982206he may or not have hatred on his mind on the fandom he created …
>>3982225No i mean towards koreans
>>3982231forgive my retardation… but i do think that Hima was unaware when portraying South Korea at that time, and considering the Japanese educational system and the environment he grew up as well. He probably didn’t know it wouldve cause damages before it was too late
>>3981388??? That Netherlands pic was drawn by Himaruya himself.
Romania has such a good design, he deserves more attention
>>3982404Whoops, my bad
It feels so alone being one of the few males that enyojs the franchise
>>3982405romania can steal my walllet anytime
>>3984537I'm sure there are more of us
>>3984537Just how many men enjoy hetalia?,
>>3984680I did when I was in my teens through age of 21 but haven't watched it since.
>>3984683Do you still find the characters hot
>>3984683The concept of male hetaloid fans still surprises me
>>3984680at least two
>>3974835that might be meare you the chilean anon?>>3977370america
Do you guys think at least one of the nations have raceplay before
>>3985729england is the ultimate raceplayer
Any thoughts femanons
mi_aph_to Pixiv ID 20915834 >>3986592Not really that strange.These are really median voter rightoid politics, especially for late Gen X-ers and millennials.Like, I know 2025 may have calibrated our Overtons far to the right, but average conservatives still tend to equate Nazi with bad even if they support Nazi-ish things.The Hungary thing is a really big indicator for rightward politics. Saying Orban made the country better is especially hilarious given their whole birthrate flop. The really funny thing is, even if they did miraculously prop up the birthrates, they'd be offset by all the people leaving the country Fidesz is running into the ground.And I don't really know why you guys are so hung up on the China thing, the Xi government is fairly right-wing if you look past the giant Lenin statues. They wanna ban yaoi and boy bands!
post cute and canon
>>3981381Holy gaslighting meangirl twitterspeak. Kys NOW.>>3981384That's a complete exaggeration of his character, especially >>3979950. He's not a yandere with a domination complex. He can be selfish and self-serving and unable to parse how his way of doing things can have serious consequences. Hetalia would not want to annex his own brother. Reminder that in the comics America admitted he was harsh to Canada because he wanted him to snap and push away from England's control. Not the best way to go about it, but he still means well. Im just so sick of people portraying America as all-evil entity preventing Canada who is precious cinnamon roll who can do no wrong UwUMakes me sus of anyone who likes Canada because they almost all think like this.
bearkala Pixiv ID 2349118>>3986862bearkala Pixiv ID 2349118>Holy gaslighting meangirl twitterspeakYou're forgetting Batman>Kys NOWCould you be less sensitive on this imageboard, anon, pleaseAlso, extremely channer lingo. Glass houses, etc.You guys seem to have this idea that the dynamics of online echo chambers and their effects on language can't make you cringy in the exact same way it does to the Xitterites. Holding on to this weird and self-serving underdog exceptionalism is a common and particularly grating delusion common to the sad stragglers of this site>reminder that in the comicsIn the comics?You think I should be concerned about the canon of a series where the lore is so shoddy that there is outright no viable way to stick to canon while representing South Korea, one of the most important, visible, and influential nations in the Asia-Pacific?Usually, I'm fairly anal about sticking to canon characterization as a general rule (allowing for clear exceptions), even for very loose and unserious canons like Eddsworld, but I make a big exception for Hetalia because I simply have no use for the view that it deserves to be seen as its own thing disconnected from real world history and politics.That's paaaartly because I see Hetalia as the superlative form of the "country-person" concept, especially given that it's competition is the terminally Reddit countryballs and that infernally ugly AminoApps ass countryhumans brainrot garbage, but more fundamentally, it's just wholly uninteresting and extremely limiting to have the characterization of these real world countries hinging entirely on the many severely provincialist idiosyncracies of Hima's two active braincells.I love the general look and vibe of Hima's America, but I don't submit to his interpretations because they lead to ridiculous places: do you not think it so weird and insular to insist that characterization for The United States of America must be unlike The United States of America?
bearkala Pixiv ID 2349118>>3986962>it'sits, sorry>>3986862>preventing CanadaFrom what?>Makes me susNo, anon, the object of suspicion is sus, not the one feeling suspicion, I don't make the rules>Hetalia would not want to annex his own brotherHetarica, and again, I must insist: I am not concerned with the limited and consistent Hetarica, I am concerned with the wide and inconsistent America.>yandereI didn't say yandere, I said psycho.There are other species of crazy, anon, not just the sexy glamorized anime flavors that you can base a slop BookTok romance on.>domination complexI do fully think he has a domination complex.Domination might be the wrong word though. Winning. He has a victory complex, the domination is a necessary secondary, but a secondary nonetheless.>He can be selfish and self-serving and unable to parse how his way of doing things can have serious consequences.Uh, yeah? I agree with that analysis, what did I say that contradicts that? I'm not even saying he's malicious, just extremely self-centered to a malignant and destructive degree. Of course, he means well, but in a way that ignores what you want because he assumes on no basis that you must want the same things he does.And why do you think I'm assuming Canada's perfectly good in all this?I outright said that I think Canada's a bitch with occasionally creepy and pathetic attributes.I don't see an angel in Canada, and I wouldn't want an angel
>>3986962>You think I should be concerned about the canon of a seriesStopped right there. That's fine if you want to take liberties because its a serious based on history, but then you have no right to be upset when someone else has an issue with how you depict certain characters. Your depiction of America is not gospel, and I'm not going to treat it as such. >do you not think it so weird and insular to insist that characterization for The United States of America must be unlike The United States of America?Thats the thing. Just because how you view the US isnt how Alfred F Jones should operate. Alfred isnt Trump. He's not Left or Right Wing. He's an amalgamation of the beliefs (and to a certain extent, stereotypes) of his people, NOT his government with sprinkles of his own personality. Most Hetalia fans agree on this notion for all Nation-tans.
>>3987042Oops. "Sprinkles of his own personality" should come before "NOT his government">>3986963>preventing CanadaYeah sorry I wrote that while being angry but it should continue as "be his own person." Many Canadafags and dub-watchers blame America for Canada being in his shadow. While that's partially true, Canada has trouble sticking up for himself and expanding his culture. That's what happens when you have no drive to influence other nations with your policies and culture. >victory complexSure, I can agree with that. It doesnt mean he wants to suppress the rights of other Nations. >I'm not even saying he's malicious, just extremely self-centered to a malignant and destructive degree. Of course, he means well, but in a way that ignores what you want because he assumes on no basis that you must want the same things he does.Okay, well that doesnt mean that he wants to prevent others from self-actualization. And please, don't bring up Israel and Palestine because most of the US doesnt want to aide Israel. >I outright said that I think Canada's a bitch with occasionally creepy and pathetic attributes.Yay, we can agree on something!
>>3987042Juansida_ Pixiv ID 127947>>3987045Lin2932>libertiesIs that really the word that you wanna use for fanon given that Hetalia itself is fundamentally just some Japanese guy taking huge liberties with politics and history in pursuit of good yaoi? A viable argument could be that my favored position isn't the one taking liberties with nothin because it actually wants to anchor the canon to reality.>Your depiction of America is not gospelBut yours is, and you have a right to be offended by my assertion of my personal canon, but my personal canon is heresy and has no right to exist in the face of your personal canon sanctioned at Nicea?>upsetNot to burst your bubble or anything, but I really don't think I've been much upset, at least, not as much as you.Related to the two things above: you were saying>Makes me sus of anyone who likes Canada because they almost all think like this.and>all-evil entitywhile saying that I had a>complete exaggeration of his characterall while you were making a completely reductive interpretation of what I was saying.I never said he was exceptionally evil (a little evil is a given for all nation-tans), just very much in his head to a degree we IRL would call mental illness and inconsiderate to a destructive degree, and I already said that my view of Canada is of a nice guy who was also kind of a bitch. Were I actually upset, it wouldn't be because of "different characterization," it'd be because of all this scarecrowing
potatoserver404 to@st littleb623 Pixiv ID 9196331>>3987042>He's an amalgamation of the beliefs (and to a certain extent, stereotypes) of his people, NOT his government with sprinkles of his own personalityI already agree that the society and its people are central, and that is a motivator for how I understand characterization, but your position is silly in a very liberal American way: why would you exclude the government?Do you think you can have a good sociological impression of a people and a nation without looking at their government?The government is a reflection of the political culture of a society and political culture is a reflection of the general culture of the society and its people.Yes, you could say that the government is a reflection of the elite primarily, but elite culture is still national culture, and given its influence, actually has an outsized share on what counts as national culture as a whole.And your rationale kinda breakds down in a practical way because, according to you, who a nation is, their personality, thats pure Volk, but what a nation does, that's the government. So effectively, with this stricter binarism of people and government, you have created a disconnect between the character's personality and their actions. That sounds ... insane, just a little bit.[sidenote: Your rationale also kinda breaks down with Poland and Nazi Germany: I really don't think Poland is the femboy capital of Europe (they have potential, but it's clearly London or Vilnius, despite the British being ... like that) and Hitler didn't invent antisemitism or hatred of the Poles, just capitalized on it. How much can you square the sexy stannable character of Germany with the real genocidal beliefs of the Germans?]
Pixiv ID 136009>>3987045>that doesnt mean that he wants to prevent others from self-actualizationKind of just the nature of the game, though, isn't it?It's not modern America's main wish to be a cartoon villain, but clearly, America has shown itself motivated to interrupt nations achieving what they want in his self-interest: installing the Shah is the primo example, and among the weirder examples is the failed project of turning Afghanistan into a functioning respectable country. And of course, there was the whole "little brown Americans" agenda with the Philippines. The "little" was cute on America's part, very similar to Russia promising soldiers fawning brown-eyed Olgas in their own "little" Russia.And the more provincial element of America's mindset does at least wish the world was just like America, even when faced with how wonderful the rest of the world can be: that dumb bitch who called ICE on those Koreans at the Hyundai factory in Georgia thought their aspiration would be along the lines of "Walmart," as if your average Korean supermarket or convenience store isn't already a million times better than a Georgia Walmart.Why didn't she mention Costco? I love Costco-style stores.I'm not reducing America to just this limited mindset, but you can't deny America has these thoughts in his deeply fragmented broken nationbrain.>And please, don't bring up Israel and Palestine because most of the US doesnt want to aide Israel.I was thinking Plaza Accords, but sure, bring up the worse issue.And you gotta be specific: most Americans don't want to aid ongoing genocide.They didn't mind aiding Israel before, and most were mildly neutral-positive on the issue
what the fuck I had a dream I was writing sfw russia x shota!america fanfiction but as their human selves and it played out like a movie. it was about a reverse cold war type setting and ivan finds an ostracized little kid named alfred who is the only one not afraid of him but goddamn can the kid talk his ear off. he reluctantly takes the tyke in and to cheer him up ivan uses his magical powers to go on temporary adventures with him in the home (he's a wizard or some shit I guess)"ivan, is any of this real?" alfred asked, alluding to both the magical adventures and their bond"hmm, a little bit yes and a little bit no", he replied. which left alfred more confusedjust as they were about to get tragically separated by the government I woke upwhat the shit
>>3988715maybe its a sign for you to write one
>>3988715qnd1272117 Pixiv ID: 4538517
>>3988715I don't even like rusame but I'd read that you should do it anon
