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Dan's playing with fire today
>>149968384>Gigantic Black Weeb waifu>Non-CanonHe can't keep getting away with it!
>>149968516>>149968521This means if the glowies ever decide to start purging all Magical Goons or Evil Tedd invades and starts snatching people; Ellen has a way of quickly bootlegging a visual disguise. Which, I'll admit is a big If. I kind of wish Dan could've found a diegetic way to explore this.You know like some kind of Martial Arts Class.
>>149968356Does any of this spells appear in the comic?
>>149968602The transformation fetish that Dan refuses to touch. And of course it will never happen naturally in the story, because that would require characters to not be permavirgins.
>>149968413Nothing at all, Nothing at all
>>149968826Of course not! That would require something to happen. We've passed the point in the comic where that is allowed. I cannot stress this enough: nothing happens from this point forward. Nothing. It is ALL just exposition, and then coming up with excuses to repeat that exposition to another character that wasn't around to hear it the first time you gave this explanation 3 years ago. And *fucking card games at the shop*.
Dan got emails about it I'm sure
>>149968755Or fight/encounter where she applies her powers in ways that shows what she can do as well as advance the plot, but who could possibly do that?
>>149968880Could be worse, could be Tamashi Gekido.
>>149968835For some reason a ray that makes you pregnant is the funniest thing in my mind, I imagine someone going postal with the TF ray in a reverse columbine that creates more life instead of taking it
>>149968888>or in general if not speaking JapaneseIs that something actual Japanese people are offended by?
>>149968911Trouble with Ellen's beams in particular is Turning Someone Into a Hot Girl isn't terribly useful in a fight. It might work better if she has to run and hide from someone, but Ellen's too Shounen Protag to run and hide from an attacker, remember faced with certain death by Goo her first instinct was to jump in it's goddamned mouth. Dunkel women are just built different.
>>149968632More like Amazo
>>149968655>>149968652>>149968643>>149968626>>149968615>>149968605>>149968602I don't need to know any of this! she can transform poeple to a certain point. there I saved us a couple of weeks of exposition.If Dan wants to draw male Diane mixed with Elliot or strong fat Nanase he should make a story where that happens!
>>149968990Yes, but there are also Japanese people who think English (and French) is really cool and Exotic, so you get a bunch of loan words spoken in the most racist sounding accents ever spoken. And lots of Anime with X or Z in the title.
>>149968685The trans stuff I'm ok with but furries and fatfags definitely not!
>>149968842Hey! The movie was "Rich Jerk realizes he's letting his grieving of his friend is making him into a jerk and becomes better while Poor People who were always good get a better quality of living as a direct result!"
>>149968880I miss the Wotch so much! at least there things happened.
>>149968989There is a fetish story about a supervillain that does exactly that. Madam Maternity. I think you can find it on deviantart.
>>149969134This, they even get free healthcare for Tiny Tim.
Were Rhoda's tits always that big?
>>149968990It doesn't need to be something Japanese people are offended by, it can be just offensive by people in the internet.
>>149968997How about a non fight? >Oh No I dropped my TF magic crystal on the mall and now everone is mixed with each other, if only there was a person with a power that could solve this situation.
>>149968997>Trouble with Ellen's beams in particular is Turning Someone Into a Hot Girl isn't terribly useful in a fight.Shouldn't she have Elliot's martial art powers that he barely ever uses now that he turns into a super hero chick?
>>149968954I'm starting to think Dan's real self insert is Susan a bland killjoy who needs to explain things and avoid fun scenarios.
>>149969275Someone pointed out in the last thread, eventually everyone starts talking like Susan in the deadpan snark tone. Greg was used as an example.
>>149968961>>149968968>>149968954Magister I appreciate what you are doing but this comic sucks, in a way the NP comics are a way to see how the comic works under the hood and is boring as hell.
>>149969312Nigga, these comics give excuses to Dan to do simple TF fun. Thing that he forgot he can do on the main comic! This is part of the reason why the pacing of the comic gets so bad and it needs years! The MEAT of the comic, which is fun transformation adventures, get throw in non canon comics!Dan has a hard time tying fun transformation adventures to the main plot, when that could have been solved with a more villain of the week format.
Let her cook
>>149969247Or heck, just break the TF gun again. Or a fellow TF fetishist kidnaps Tedd and zaps Sarah on the way out.
>>149968850>HanmaIs Dan aware of Baki?
>>149969369And I say more! Dan can forget the ethical filemmas he has with transformation if he makes it so that the villains do it! So a game created by a villain where the players are transformed and get in hijinks could work!In the end he could even have the MCs create a "safe" version of the game later without the parts that they dislike!
>>149969121Stoic Rizz.
>>149969511Dan just watched MLP.
Dan got emails again
>>149969450>It was 90% RecappingIt's absolutely terrible, being subjected to such a thing, DAN!
>>149968981Cuck queen
Oh this story is a lot longer than I thought it was
>>149969009Actually fun joke this far into the comic, heh
>>149969021Wait! she can change age now too? She is now basically the Wotch
>>149969051This is the kind of target perfect for a pregnant gun.
>>149969104Remember when Grace, Tedd and Eliot where characters in this comic? yeah me neither.
>>149969684Speaking as Pro-Lifer, You'd need to throw in an Anti-Cognitive Dissonance Beam or they'd just get the abortion and carry on curtailing abortions in general.
Hanma is wise
>>149969592At least is not an entire season of Endless Eight.
>>149969121Not beating the self inserting allegations
>>149969723...good point...I forgot the human condition is stronger that reality itself.
>>149968990No
She is too powerful
Feels like Catalina should have also got a sash
WhewDoneTomorrow we can talk about Diane
Oh boy oh boy guess what time it is. >>149968356Well that never happened the 20th. And Nanase reading Ellen's spell book to her would have been a great couple scene.>>149968384Well that never happened the 21th. This is critical information, and you even managed to think of Greg to be in-character talking about and playing with these spells. To have made this canon story.>>149968429Well that never happened the 22th>>149968495Well that never happened the 23th>>149968504Well that never happened the 24th
>>149970053>>149968516Well that never happened the 25th>>149968521Well that never happened the 26th>>149968530Well that never happened the 27th. Since it was never explicitly made canon.>>149968549Well that never happened the 28th
>>149970073>>149968557Well that never happened the 29th>>149968561Well that never happened the 30th>>149968585Well that never happened the 31th>>149968615Well that never happened the 32th
>>149970089>>149968667Well that never happened the 33th.>>149968701>>149968738Well that never happened the 34th14 count them 14 things not ever shown in the canon story. Despite them being both fun and interesting stuff we could have learned in story.
>>149968685>>149968692Dan your retcons got in the way of your retcons. And for fun >>149968765Hanma first appears on Jul 31, 2017And is not made canon until Jul 30, 2018
>>149970032She Gay!
>>149969371She is into something.
>>149969416Seriously, Dan can just have more villains like that Not-Tengu who is transforming people and just have the Goon Squad undo the transformations at the end.
>>149969409Violence and action in my story? not a chance.
>>149970158That is not the intended use of the Meme which refers to statements of oncoming interactions and events such as Kaoli or Lord Tedd coming to Moperville or Diane mourning Pandora with Adrian. Not out of narrative explanations of how a person's powers work, otherwise the count would be somewhere in the Eighties with Grace's Change Blindness antics in a previous thread.The count remains at 19 and you are admonished to restrain yourself.
He already did goonmanji we don't need to spend 100000 years on the mechanics of the pervy tf board game.
Last thing you see before she fucking GETS you
>>149969511Careful there this is DEFCON 2
>>149970245See>>149968356All these thing are official canon, they have just never been shown or even talked about. So yes the is foreshadowing for things that should be in the comic. Dan could have easily made this a canon story he chose not to.
>>149970247I think Goonmanji 2 was the exact moment where I threw my hands up because it embodies everything wrong with current EGS. Can't just do a goofy pervy TF board game, instead the board game is just an excuse to drop exposition on how the board game works, rules, ethics of TF shit, etc. to the point where the actual pervy TF antics aren't actually important.
>>149969875I have no idea what the giant sandwich means
>>149969911The Cat woman named Kat?
>>149969955I still would Fat Nanase.
>>149970289At no point does Ellen or Dan assert where or when she's going to use these abilities, it merely explains what the effects would be. It therefore does not qualify under previous precedent and allowing it opens to a definition so broad it's rendered meaningless.
>>149970011You know what? I like this.
>>149970367>rules, ethics of TF shit, etc.Rules, Ethics and TF shit sounds like a great tagline for the comic.
>>149970538Oh, my
>>149970165>Hanma is canonDo you think she's gotten up to any canon shenanigans?Off-screen, obviously, since nothing ever happens on-screen.
>>149970691Their a non zero chance that Hanma is Greg's off-Screen girlfriend.>>149969861And if not she is probably angling to take the job.
>>149970737Come to think of it, how does sex fall under "guide and empower?"Like, obviously they do fuck humans, but do they have to tell their partners what to do during the act so it falls under "guiding?"
>>149970737Would that be better or worse than if she was his immortal ancestor?
>>149970862When you remember that Immortals regularly wipe their memories and don't always pass down all of the information that they should... it could be both.
>>149970800I think it's less "they do" fuck humans and more "they did." That is, at some point it was allowed and then they outlawed it after too many Immortals had kids, couldn't bear to Reset and went cuckoo for coco puffs. If that is the case, it happened after Adrian was born.>>149970925Given his ears aren't pointy, if they are related it's probably like how related two given Chinese people are via Genghis Khan.
>>149969051Lmao
>>149970925And another string for the news clipping "How legendary a monster hunter was Noriko?"Edward is entirely too straight-laced anyway. Of course, you can get banned on egs reddit for posting a "theory on Ted's many mental problems being because he is an incest baby.">not that i'm bitter
>>149968765>That VoltaireI don't know if I'm thinking of another webcomic but I thought old school EGS used to have an advertising banner that went something like "El Goonish Shive: We make the most out of the mysterious guy in the shadows cliche!"Whatever the case, Dan needs a modern version of that banner which is just an enormous collage of the times Voltaire looks downward at a slight angle with glowing eyes.
>>149970800I think it just means the human has to top and guiding and empowering would fall under being a power-bottom.
>>149969051>>149969684If Dan allowed his characters to have beliefs that were not just a mouthpiece for his own morality or do things that he doesn't personally validate, Ashley would be the perfect character to develop something like an 'immaculate conception' spell that she uses for karmic punishments that line up with her fantasies, without having stopped to consider the actual implications of forcing that on people because her fantasies never go that far. Tedd overthinks magic too much to make that kind of mistake, but Ashley is in the perfect strike zone of 'TF fetishist' and 'new to magic' to make a royal fuckup.
I skipped a LOT of pages today
>>149971948Don't worry, I'm pretty sure none of it will ever be relevant.
>>149971948Same here bro.
>>149971948I sure didn't
>>149971710Incest baby?
>>149971823We need a badguy who turn people into bimbos.
>>149972092...that fiend
>>149972034Thank you for your service
>>149972092What about a bimbo who turns people into bad guys?
>>149972123That's just Dan.
>>149972059Some anon asked "Immortals lose memories after resetting, so it's possible that a immortal could be the parent of, and the lover of someone." Or she could just not care about squeamish mortal ideas. "So how legendary a monster hunter IS Noriko, mother of Tedd?" Though that's more something of a prank on Edward Verres, you have to admit, Tedd's a bit messed up. No strength, has the sort of build you'd see on a wet dishcloth, teased to be a bit of a perv, not that Dan ever ever shows that scene.
>>149968888>>149969559>emailsI get the feeling that part of the reason this happens is because Dan acknowledging the emails reinforces the behavior in the readers that want his attention.
>>149963643I like how that one arc is just going to always be called Title Pending
>>149968990No. Maybe an Asian American immigrant that isn't connected to their culture but makes being Asian their entire personality (like that Kunichiwa, Dude guy) but more likely than not it was just some chronically online idiot looking for a reason to complain.>>149972752This 100% He needs to ignore them.
>>149968997If only stuff happened it would be cool to see cocky Ellen get into a fight with a creature and get absolutely wrecked leading to her having to go on a big training journey.>>149969134I hate the trend of subversive and untalented people criticizing genuine stories that are genuinely good to seem smart. (no hate to Dan)>>149969182Thank you. Not my fetish but I have to see that lol>>149969274Yes, but Dan seems to have forgotten that was a thing after he got rid of the Dojo>>149969369Well he needs to get over it because there's barely any plot either.>>149969416You know he could just have things that aren't ok in real life happen in the comic.
>>149969723Magic Pregnancies are IMMUNE to abortions! Mwuhahahaha!!!!
>>149970011Me too. Too bad Dan would never have the balls to have Justin realize he likes girls if it's Susan.
>>149970245Can you link me the examples or (more preferably as it would be easier for us both) just tell me what they are for the list? I looked through the previous threads and only found two Ctrl F'ing but I can go digging if I really have to.
>>149971785That does sound vaguely familiar
>>149973140Dear God!
>>149973165Basically any time Dan writes a character talking to another character about Doing a Thing in the future and never showing it on panel. Things like Grace joining a D&D group, Kaoli returning to Moperville, Diane meeting Adrian to talk about Pandora
>>149972092>He bimbofies Ellen>Ellen scans her Bimbofied form and turns it to the Wave Beam>All of Moperville shall be like, totally cool man!
>>149972092I know a guy
>>149973340I'd kill for a spin off starring this guy and Voltaire just going around fucking shit up for no reason
>>149973340A man can dream
>>149969723Thats why your have the pregnancy gun skip you to third trimester directly. Despite what a lot of pro-life propaganda says, late term abortions almost never happen. Doctors won't do it unless things have gone so horribly wrong that its either the mother or the baby that's about to die and you can only save one. So not only is it more visually dramatic for the target to be *poof* and carrying a bowling ball in their womb, but it sidesteps the option of abortion.
>>149973041Quality comics
>>149973289Wait Kaoli returns and it happens off panel?
>>149968576>>149968605>>149969955I've always wondered if there's a reason Nanase gets hit with fat-related transformations on more occasions than anyone else. My guess is just because it's a contrast to her usual toned physique.
>>149973340You know despite having much higher powered magic, the Wotch is the setting that is much more lighthearted in tone, and easygoing about people finding out about magic. To the point where even a relatively small town can support at least 2 magic shops. While the much larger Mopeville doesn't have even one.
>>149975844This doesn't mean much to be honest, might as well use FOP as an example.
>>149975844EGS takes itself way mote seriously that The Wotch despite the characters wl EGS being more relatively safe.
>>149975497Real question when was the last time Nanase had any involvement in the story in major plot relevant way.If you said New Year's day. way back in 2013 you would be right
>>149976072It's a bit fucky she disappeared for most of Sister 3. Just imagine if she Pearl Harbored Magus while he and Elliot were arguing.
>>149975890Their is no relatively more safe. Hostile or unwanted magic expliclty fails over time. in egs.
>>149976592Enchantments doI don't think fireballs just fizzle out
>>149976749Name one visual medium setting where a fireball ever actually killed someone on panel.
>>149976763There's got to be lots of DnD. Some Marvel comics. A car exploding in a fireball isn't on panel, because they always show the car exploding, not the person. Oh, that means the pilot exploding in the Green Lantern movie counts. Does a kamehameha count as a fireball?
