>Say the film should be like the source material>Get firedWhy are they like this
>>150108778m
>>150108778Why do these people get so mad about comics when they're making comic book movies it makes no sense
The kind of people who get MBAs just really really hate cartoons and comics and geek culture.That's why they started hiring alt types and hipsters. I remember during the previous dark ages of good culture in cinema there would always been some snippet like.>the studio want a director who wasn't a fan of the source material>they made sure to cast actors who'd never heard of the source materialDirectors and producers would quite proudly declare in interviews that they hate super heros or magic or fantasy in general.
>>150108778>anon learns that people making these movies and shows hold comics in the absolute contempt and feel they're above themAnd no, this has not changed one bit because "superhero movies nowadays are more comic-booky" or whatever nonsense. It's just hidden behind ten layers of irony now.
>>150108778And in this house Chris Columbus is a hero!
>>150108778based C-suites, comics are stupid
>>150108910>FF 2025 follows the source material>Movie flops
>>150108962>FF 2025 follows the source materialin what in universe
>>150108867What it comes down to is all these people go to parties together and talk about their projects and the hot chick's and cool guys think comics and suoer heros are hella gay. So you have to broadcast on all frequencies that you do not like and it's just a job. Or else the cool kids won't share cocaine and underage hookers with you
>>150108778Still the best FF film.
>>150108982*in what universe
>>150108962Yeah I remember that issue of ff back in 1963 where Reed was a functional retard in a sombrero
>>150108982What was so different about it
>>150108993Corman>>>
>>150108778Because sticking to the source material is for stinky, nerdy chudcels!
>>150109061This was before the schizo culture war we're in tho
>>150108778>Why are they like thisBecause producers think they are artists but are just to busy to direct.
>>150109007The setting, the characters, the tone, and the plot. But other than that, they're identical!
>>150109176All of the points you mention can be debatable
>>150108778nothing changed
>>150109176>Fantastic Four's biggest strength is the character dynamics>barely any character stuff, most of which is told and not shownBRAVO MCU BRAVO
>>150109187Wow anon why would I associate a word with it's most common usage nowadays
>>150108778Chris Columbus is just desperate for attention this week.
>>150108778based for trying to be accurate
>>150109244Mf should've never arrived in America
>>150108867Executives are afraid of audiences being alienated by the source material. They want the broadest appeal to maximize profits. It's also why they treat people like idiots and want simple, dumbed down movies.
>>150108880>The kind of people who get MBAs just really really hate cartoons and comics and geek culture.It's this. They want their own stories being made and they just use the names of the franchises because nobody wants to produce their ideas. It's not, for example, Thor, but rather some OG character played by Chris Hemsworth dressed as Thor.When you see a character acting ooc compared to the comic, it's the writer or director using his own original character in all but name. Gunn really likes immature manchild men as his heroes because that's his favorite archetype. It's not Starlord, it's a Gunn's original.
The people always bagging on about "comic accuracy" never have anything to say when James Gunn is giving Superman a scat fetish
>>150109304I like Gunn's GotG but I often wonder what it must've felt like being a fan of the comic version and see the characters being irrevocably changed forever.
>>150109194Fucking everything is debatable, anon. People still argue about the shape of the world and the Greeks mathed that one out fucking thousands of years ago AND we have pictures!
>>150109323the joke was that Peacemaker was getting false information from a source that was clearly trolling him.
>>150109360Yes, but you get what I mean, Art discussion is far broader and not subject to the parameters of something like scientific facts.
>>150109138When do you think the culture war started?I'll give you a hint: it wasnt when YOU turned 12.
>>150108778Hollywood hacks are way too full of themselves to ever accept the fact that the funny book guy is more talented than they are.
>>150109427Correct. It was when *I* turned 12!
>>150109304
>>150109427Isn't it agreed for the turning point to be during the mid 2010's?
>>150108867they just want the name recognition
>>15010946780s is when the term politically correct came into use.
>>150109488It was definetively a concern, but the advent of social media is what pushed fandom culture to the edge.
>>150109452Brimstone.
>>150109299Given that comic book movies cost 200+ million dollahs I'm not entirely unsympathetic
>>150109467Depends which turning point you mean. There have been multiple even just in my lifetime.The two biggest ones are the culture shift after 9/11 (its undeniable that America culture got a lot more cynical during the Bush years), and then the 2010s were when social media got big and people who didn't understand the internet started using it daily, giving away personal information that us oldfags knew you were supposed to keep secret and diving headfirst into information bubbles and other ways that social media manipulates you and fosters extremism. People will point to 2016 as "when things got bad" but that was the climax, not the cause. These things had already been festering on the internet for years, 2016 was just when it broke containment and curated Facebook news feeds started to swing elections.
>>150109304James Gunn also told John Cena to NOT read any Peacemaker comics to get ready for the role, so Hollywood hasn't learned anything, they're still doing it.
>>150109543Yet the money is barely on screen in most of them nowadays
>>150109578I'd say I'm refering to the 2010's turning point, when woke, PC culture and grifting established themselves as an inescapable point of conversation. Not to say they weren't there before, but I do think they acquired a whole new dimension that wasn't as prevalent before.
>>150109543It's not a new thing and not even a comic book movie thing. Hollywood loves taking something and changing it drastically. The ones that get messed with the least are book adaptations and even those aren't safe from executive butchering.
>>150109594Tbf I do think it's more important for the creatives to have a good grasp on the characters than the actors.
>>150108891True, unless it is Taika Waititi, then he doesn't even bother with the irony part, he just says with all words that he hates comic books and everything about them, he says it in the most obnoxious way possible also, and retards still praise his shitty Thor 3 movie for ignoring the comics.
>>150109689Thank god all that rethoric ended up biting him in the ass with L&T.
>>150108962>FF 2025 follows the source materialOn opposite day? Yeah.
>>150109805I disagreeI disagree Gary
>>150109488You can go back even further if you count other terms with the same meaning.
>>150109671Actors having a good grasp is important too, so they know what they're trying to do with the performance; also, Gunn doesn't have a good grasp of anything in terms of comic accuracy, his Guardians are basically just Firefly but blander and his Peacemaker is just a clown.
>>150109467THE CULTURE WAR HAS ALWAYS BEEN HAPPENING
>>150109873"The culture war" is the same as "the genetics war" and is just as old.
>>150109689It's weird he said that when the Thor Love & Thunder trailer had shots taken from panels of a Thor comic whole cloth.
>>150109138It was still that way before the evil times. Hollywood has always looked down its nose at comics.
>>150109906>his Guardians are basically just FireflyScathing
>>150109954I know, the response was to the idea of creatives having a personal vendetta against the audience ala Last Jedi, not mere disrespect and indifference for the comics.
>>150109949A lot of cbm's recreate designs and panels to give the pretense of respect for the source material, despite not bothering with character and theme adaptations.
>>150109995It was a smoke screen. Being obsessively anti-nerd was also a cringey disposition they had to constantly clench their muscles to hide. After spcmed and the audience could talk shit directly to the people in charge without lublicists filtering it they became more openly vindictive. But mark my words they always were being malicious and doing it shit on purpose as a way to not look uncool to their friends.
>>150108778Why wasn't he concerned with book accuracy when directing HP then?
>>150109403I'm gonna be honest, you're incredibly low IQ.
People who think this is just about comics are wrong, literally all corpos are the exact same "positivity" nonsense where disagreeing with what people are doing is LE BADThey could be doing the stupidest most retarded shit ever that would backfire massively and cost them billions, but if you pointed that out to them you'd be fired on the spot because>Listen, we need TEAM PLAYERS OK???? You're being toonegative!
>>150108993you're not wrong. That guy from The Shield is the best Thing, Alba is the best Invisible Woman and Michael McMahon (may he rest in power) was a great actor, as I loved him in Nip/Tuck as he may not be the best Doom, but he was so good in the movie
>>150108962and I'm pretty sure 2015 Fantastic Four or 2018 Tomb Raider followed their respective source materials as well. These two franchises are forever cursed
>>150110205What doesn't make sense in that statement
>>150110260Fant4stic didn't even follow Ult FF that much
I bet it was Tom Rothman. Fuck him.
>>150110306>Fucks over FF and Deadpool at Fox>Fucks over Spider-Man at Sony >Loses millions of dollars by selling KPDM to NetflixMight arguably be the most retarded excec in Hollywood
>>150108778>the source material sells 50,000 comics a month if it's a really good month>we need to sell millions of tickets just to break even and we won't get there by pandering to a tiny audience like comic fansThey were right to fire him.
>>150110364I dunno, him or Amy Pascal.
>>150110292which was why Fantf4stick was just dogshit. Tomb Raider 2018 was also dogshit
>>150110306>>150110364Ironic how he also ok'd Morbius and Madame Web
>>150110394>Lets take a superhero franchise known for campy fun and turn it into body horror! Then fire the director before he can make an ending!
>>150110198>Why wasn't he concerned with book accuracy when directing HP then?...uh what? His two HP movies follow the books VERY closely. They're probably the most accurate adaptations in ALL of media.
>>150110198The first two Harry Potter movies were strongly book accurate, it was after he left they went wildly off the rails.
>>150108778Hollywood always changes adaptations. In fact a lot of movies are based on books, but capefags are the only ones insist that their former news stand rags are exalted gems that must be veraciously adapted.
Plenty of shills defending faggot execs here.
>>150110596Trying to memory-hold the Percy Jackson fags sperging over the movie not being book accurate?
>>150108962Yummy bait
>>150110431Sad too. Josh Trank wasn't even ready to make a Hollywood blockbuster, and furthermore, he's just not the right guy to direct something as profoundly big as it
>>150109452I didn't mention politics at all. Gunn being politically leftist isn't the problem, but rather that he doesn't want to adapt stories rather than use other people's characters as avatars for their ideas.
>>150109341Mixed feelings, first movie was fun enough but I cringe on every rewatch when I look at Groot and Rocket.
>>150110596Tomb Raider 2018 being a hugely godawful example
>>150109594This is the exact same attitude D&D got when they told the GoT actors to ignore the books to the point discussions of them were banned and we all know how that turned out. There is no mystery: these directors think they're much better storytellers then writers who create comics or fantasy, which they consider for kids.>>150109671Both should understand the character. Thing is, you wouldn't tell an actor to not read classic books. It happens with comics or vgs because, even the actors, think they're above it.
>people who actually know the stories/characters want to see them done justice?>NOOO I'M MELTINGAnd yes, it's also shit when book adaptations do this. And yes, people who actually read the books do complain about the shitty pointless changes, problem is your average consumer reads neither books nor comics.>>150110914Tomb Raider 2018's main problem is that the source material was godawful in the first place. Every issue with the movie, faithful or not stems from that alone.
>>150109906>Peacemaker is just a clown.Peacemaker like Quill are both the quirky manchild Gunn thinks he is, except he thinks he's been funny.
>>150110033They do it in purpose because they know idiots will defend the movie saying "look! It's in the comics, chud!"
>>150110942>Tomb Raider 2018's main problem is that the source material was godawful in the first place.and the casting decision was wrong. After Vikander as Lara Croft came out, nobody could hire her in any movie outside of Green Knight movie that came out. She would appear in less indie movies that have completely flopped, because even people couldn't take her seriously as an actress, and the Tomb Raider IP was nothing more than a joke by that point
>>150108778dang ol' Fantastic Four man, franchise forever as dang ol' cursed as King of the Hill man
>>150111095What's wrong with KotH
>>150109323Those are Superman fans who are desperate to have their guy get a W for the first time in years since it’s unanimously agreed he sucks and is boring- they have to lap up Gunnslop because it’s the last chance for him to ever have mainstream appeal outside of being slapped onto birthday cakes and t shirts for 10 year olds
>>150111300Gunnbros are speedrunning and already becoming as annoying as Snyderbros.
>>150111300>since it’s unanimously agreed he sucks and is boringNo, that's just you being a retarded schizo faggot trying to push a shitty "meme" like an attention-whoring tard you are.
>>150111331Yes it’s quite sad to see what a well respected character like Clark has been reduced to but the cult of Gunn marches forward and has now absorbed the most obnoxious fanbase in the comic medium- I dread his Batman and hope his dcu gets cancelled before he can get there
>>150111371>I dread his BatmanPersonally I'm pissed he kept us from having more Reeves Batman
>>150111351Look this whiny ass supermanchild kek, this is exactly the type of people who lap up Gunnslop- a hit dog will holler as they say
>>150111396>retarded seething schizo cries out like a bitchLooks like I've hit a nerveYou and Gunn should both get cancer, by the way.Nothing of value would be lost.
Also just noticed>it's a snydercuckOf course, go home my brown "friend". This thread is for humans only.
>>150111436Actually no, I just used the image to see how you’d respond and of course predictably you immediately turned into a gunntard, you tried to mask yourself in the previous reply but a hit dog hollers like I already said Superman sucks and always will
>>150111390I haven’t seen Reeves Batman yet but I’m sure it’s better than whatever that hack could crank out, but I think he’ll win out in the end- I don’t think Supergirl will do the numbers WB hopes
>>150111471>muh GunnI know it's difficult for a tiny brown "brain" to comprehend, but one can easily hate both.>S-s-s-superman s-s-s-sucks, p-please agree with meAnd nobody cares what some no-name autistic loser on 4chan thinks about one of the most iconic superheroes in the world.You will die one day (that day can't come soon enough) and Superman will still keep getting media, lmao.
>>150108778Damn, a post-Potter Chris Columbus Fantastic Four would've been fucking GOOD.I hate these studios.
>>150111390>Personally I'm pissed he kept us from having more Reeves Batman?The Batman 2 is still happening, script is complete, shooting next Spring.
>>150111704I hope the villain is Mister Freeze, because he is technically a normal guy, but he also has sci-fi tech, so he could serve as a bridge from the more realistic villains to the more comic book ones, so the third one could have Batman fight a more out there one, like Clayface or Man-Bat.
>>150111738 (Me)I also hope they have Bruce improve his suit as the movies go; the suit he wears in the Reeves movie looks very provisional, and I think that was done on purpose, because this is early Batman, so his equipment is meant to be kind of half-baked, and we'll see him improving it as the movies go. I hope by the third movie he's wearing something like this.
>>150109427>>150109467The internet's nature changed significantly in the 2010s. There wasn't such a pervasive culture war online in the 90s and 2000s, normal people weren't online 24/7 on social media using their real names, and there weren't the social media propaganda wars where foreign nations are funding the spread of radical views through artificially pumped up accounts and bots.
>>150111704It was heavily delayed because of Gunn and probably having all sorts of bullshit forced on it
>>150111924Things are only going to get worse with AI. At best there will be an arms race between truth spreading AI and malicious AI.
>>150111371>but the cult of Gunn marches forward and has now absorbed the most obnoxious fanbase in the comic mediumYou can thank whatever retard turned it into a console between muh Snyder and muh Gunn
>>150112133Fandom always devolves into tribalistic shit
>>150112133I like Superman generally, but I'm tired of both camps dominating all the discussion with their shitty versions of him.It's not just a Superman problem either. Spider-Man has it just as bad because nobody wants to actually adapt the character. We haven't had a worthwhile cartoon since almost 20 years ago, MCU slop is actively offensive to me as a (former) fan of Spider-Man, and that's not even mentioning how bad the comics are.>inb4 m-m-muh box office, please be happy for all the money that goes to millionaires and billionaires like a good little dog slave you are
>>150111528correct, because no one cares about Superman in general kek
>>150112344>screeching brownoid cope noise that doesn't make sense to anybody who's actually humanDidn't expect anything else. Off you go, seething brown monkey.
>>150112369Look at this Supermanchild seething lmao grow up nigga
>>150108778Because the entire movie industry is actually a front. The real goal of making movies is to produce hate and rage to feed Lord Moloch, the insane demon god who embodies evil and despises everything good.
>eek eek eek eek ooga boogaLmao.Why is this brownoid perma-seething about Superman anyway?
>>150108778Tom Rothman was involved. That's why it was like this.
>>150108778Ok, what does it mean to "feel more like"?
>>150112369>seething brown monkeyWhat does Hawkgirl have to do with this?
>anti-Superman brownoid continues to seetheHow about you post hand and outlet with a timestamp, so we could all see what kind of a golem you are. Failure to comply immediately outs you as the darkest shade of brown.
Why is the racist bro shilling for the pro-brown immigration and anti-American Gunn movie?
>no photoAnd like that concession accepted.>racistCry about it, monkey.
>>150112633Wrong anon, but okay.
>>150110391And then the movie flopped
>totally not the same brown faggot, just happen to be just as retarded and repeat his retarded talking pointsSlash your throat already, nobody is fooled.
>>150112731>No "(You)"
>I totally didn't edit itNobody cares, retard.Let me summarize my opinion, so you would look even more retarded next time you try to play up "muh gunn shill" angle.Superman is a good character.You, Snyder and Gunn should are all worthless negative-IQ retards whose best contributions to the world were turds in the toilet. (then again, your kind hates toilets)Anything else?
>>150111191Nothing, it's still quality. But it's still a shame that the majority of the cast died, especially during production of the revival
>>150112836>Snyder and Gunn are all worthless negative-IQ retards whose best contributions to the world were turds in the toiletWell, can't argue with that one.
>>150112421and the producers' cocaine binges
>>150108778>Why are they like thisthey made billions with movies who gave a fuck about the source material/co/ always told you to never wank the MCU, the nolan movies, phoenix joker and the jackmanverse
>>150112918Good then.Repugnant nepotism-driven pricks should stay away from my capeshit.
>>150109594John Cena can read?
>>150108778they hate jack that's why
>>150109671Actors are part of the creative process too and I can't really see a scenario where the actor reading the source material is going to be a detriment unless you plan on in a completely different direction.
>>150108867They want the normie audience
>>150110876You've misinterpreted the story.No one spent money on the movies
>>150108778>>150108867Those people are the most insufferable people that I could ever imagined. What kind of people actually respected them?
The really fucked up part is, this is Chris Columbus. Ontop of a long career making some of the biggest movies ever, he recently was making a billion dollars with Harry Potter IN THE EARLY 2000s! imagine being so dedicated to an idea that you're willing to risk a massive political headache for the rest of your career....and it's for a terrible decision, a terrible decision that doesn't even make sense since it's not like these were serious movies in the first place.>Galatctus has to be a turd cloud because people wouldn't accept it in a movie....but half the movie can be cornball jokes about Nascar and body swapping
>>150109360if you actually read the greek writings its not infallible calculation its assumption laid on top of assumption, same with modern physicists and quantum theory and String theory etc its just guesswork and calculation laid on top of the assumptions.
>>150108778they made one with everything the reddit crowd always wanted and it flopped way worse
>>150115054Is the reddit in the room here with us
>>150110198The first two HP movies catch the feel of both books almost perfectly. And they’re both really good.
>>150111371I loved Superman as a stand-alone movie. But it pretty much solidified that his DCU is gonna be shit. The world building is awful and Supergirl’s movie is probably gonna be shit. He’s got one woman writing like five scripts for five separate films, and I have no faith in his interpretation of Batman.
>>150108778Studios demand control, having anyone involved give the slightest bit of pushback can't be allowed.
>>150116446Now that is sad for real.
>>150108896Kek
>>150112836Superman is not a good character, he’s boring derivative schlock with too many hats on- at some point you manchildren need to stop blaming the writers and audience and accept that
>>150108778How the fuck does Chris fucking Columbus manage to have too many opinions when he's the stereotype of a Hollywood hack yes-man?
>>150109452What sort of coked up schizo brain dreamt this up from the eldritch depth of their mind?
>>150108778One of the biggest reasons this keeps happening is because the more money that goes into a movie, the more it needs to be a "four quadrants" film so some success can be guaranteed (in the eyes of the people funding and managing production). A big budget movie that appeals to families will make five times the money per person and be a safer return on investment versus an identically budgeted film that single men and couples will watch.The average big blockbuster (after the Great Recession) just can't exclusively appeal to young men anymore (UNLESS you're Bayformers and have the means/connections/clout to get away with it) since no one knows how to budget properly and because Hollywood is exclusively filled with rich people. And when you factor in how female consumers spend more money than men and are willing to go into debt more than men....
>>150109304MBA stands for Masters of Business Administrationi.e. the suits
>>150110459>>150110467>>150115209If you ask various fans who read the books before the first HP film came out, some of them will tell you that it accurately captured almost exactly they pictured in their minds but then other fans will tell you that every single film took a huge shit on all the books and completely desecrated them (yes including the chris columbus ones). Opinions on this heavily vary and it depends on what exactly you're referring to when it comes to "book accuracy" because I could list a bunch of things from the books that the films changed or completely cut out
>>150117705Shut the fuck up and die already, you mentally ill schizo cunt.You have to accept that your life is worthless and commit suicide instead of shitting this board up daily.You still haven't posted your brown hand and the outlet, by the way.
>>150109452Wow...you sure owned the chuds with that one...
>>150117705So who IS a good character by your standards?
>>150117705You people are always like this, man.
>>150118781>but then other fans will tell you that every single film took a huge shit on all the books and completely desecrated themIt's okay, JK said they can always just magic that away.
>>150119845Whoever is not popular so he can feel special by being a contrarian.
>>150108778>>150108867Is there a way we could kill this kind of people?
DC and Marvel have people who make comics that hate it and people who make movies that hate itMake it make sense
>>150109299>Executives are afraid of audiences being alienated by the source material.What movie can be pointed to where people have been alienated by the source material of the comic they're making a movie of?Watchmen 2009 got hated BECAUSE of what they changed, and that was otherwise a 1:1 of the comic.
>>150123216It is a senseless world and an even more senseless existance.
>>150123284Snyder's direction also played a part on Watchmen's polaryizing reception
>>150123284>What movie can be pointed to where people have been alienated by the source material of the comic they're making a movie of?None because no Hollywood movie would ever dare take that risk and do shit like Electro wearing his green and yellow suit while throwing solid bolts of lightning like he did in his original Spider-Man appearances. Can you imagine how shitty that would look in live action?Also, some of the things from the comics are not very marketable. I have a feeling that if Wolverine was played by an actual manlet rather than Hugh Jackman he'd be significantly less popular today.
>>150108982>>150109002>>150109805FF 2025, like every adaptation, takes a ton of liberties. But it is nonetheless by far the most faithful FF adaptation in film. >retro aesthetic>goofy villains referenced>them barely being able to hurt Galactus>Surfer turning on Galactus>Sue being OP>Johnny actually being not as much of a retard as cultural osmosis made him seem
>>150123366>huurduuurrrr me make retarded xankle huujr wut if loky costume ahuahuahuyou are stupid and the reason movies don't take risks, kill yourself
>>150123366>Can you imagine how shitty that would look in live action?I mean, if you can make the entire film to match that aesthetic, it wouldn't stand out as too goofy
>>150108778because hollywood execes are still the late 90's/early 00's understanding that comics are "immature stuff for kids" so whenever they want to make a film they have to "adapt it for a more mature audience"
>>150123414You might think pic related is the coolest-looking shit ever, but casuals would just laugh and use that as an excuse to mock the movie. I don't make the rules, that's how it works.
>>150123467I think we're past that point, altough they still feel ashamed of what they're adapting. We just moved on from edgy/black aesthetic to irony poisoning. Different package, same content.Tho both Superman and FF felt more sincere than your average cbm so I'll give them that. Hopefully a trend follows.
>>150123510looks kino to me chum
>>150123510You just need to put some effort, which to be honest I don't actually expect from Hollywood>it's a videogameWith a semi-realistic visual style (for its time)Principle is the same, just keep trying until it looks cool.
>>150123619Web of Shadow's Electro design is widely disliked though
>>150123619I liked the approach Spectacular took by having the bolt mask actually be electricity constantly being expelled by Max. I get it could be a VFX nightmare but it's a nice alternative, all the while keeping the green suit of course.
>>150108778They seriously fired the Home Alone and Harry Potter director, for suggesting a throw-back aesthetic that worked perfectly fine for Incredibles.
>>150123646Moreso the rewrote the script of the '05 film to avoid similarities with The Incredibles.
>>150123670>to avoid similarities with The Incredibles.God that's dumb
>>150123510>cheap cosplay is totally the same as what hollywood costume designers can do if they put in the effortWere you dropped on your head as a baby?
>>150108896He'll always be a hero for writing the first Gremlins movie. https://youtu.be/dZVeyibVA40?si=NEsu9ZBjksvs4rYt
>>150109304Besides Adam Warlock being fucked I thought Guardians were good for making them appeal to mass audiences, the comic team was unironically too serious for a concept that goofy. the problem is they just overdid the humor same for Thor desu with Ragnarok, people blame Whedon but that shit started with Gunn, it was like the watershed moment for millennial writers when writing an ensemble
Why didn't /co/ bust a nut when Sony gave them their accurate campy shitty-looking Rhino? No gay armors, just a big guy in rhino suit. Why didn't /co/ love it?
>>150108896I'll tell you what it is: it's anti-geek discrimination.
>>150123822>the comic team was unironically too serious for a concept that goofyI think that would've make it feel more earnest. I do like the films but wonder what a more faithful adaptation in both tone and character would be like. Just find a different approach from what Gunn did and it could work.
>>150124140That's not a guy in a Rhino suit.
>>150124140Doesn't look like a guy in a rhino suit, doesn't even look like Kingpin, I think that was in Kraven which nobody watched, fuck off>>150123822>the comic team was unironically too serious for a concept that goofyAre you sure you read the DnA run? The problem is they shifted everyone's personality. They pushed Rocket from chill and occasionally goofy to all angsty and a bastard. Groot went from all grumpy to a precious cinnamon roll, and then died and replaced with the kid version.
>it's supposed to be a villain movie>nobody knows how to write a villain anymore>so it's a bogstandard superhero movieFunny, I was intending to make it a post talking about Kraven but it applies to way too many things to just stop at that.The Penguin show, while not flawless, was a nice surprise for not sticking to that formula.
>>150108867I think the guy that made the X-men cartoon sequel (and got the boot) said it best (not like we needed his word for confirmation but whatever): These fags want to leave THEIR mark on the product, not make Stan Lee/Jack Kirby/etc stories, but THEIR story.
>>150108867Because movie executives are all insane jews drunk off child blood and foreskins
