Y'all not ready for this
My LORD and SAVIOR has got this
Any Buddhist with internet connection?
>Thangorodrim was a group of three gigantic active volcanoes within the Iron Mountains in the north of Middle-earth during the First Age. They were raised by Morgoth, Yup, Morgoth can create mountains. Your character's status?
Anons, can we be serious for one moment and talk about how Kratos VS Asura is the best video DB has ever made? Even if you ignore the animation and analysis (even though they're top notch), the storytelling alone puts it LEAGUES above everything else on the channel.It's a beautiful story about how rage and vengeance can ultimately destroy us all. We see in the beginning Asura instigates the fight, his actions motivated by no other reason but irrational anger. Kratos immediately recognizes that this challenger is no match for his limitless strength. He wants to deescalate the situation and tries to dissuade Asura from making the worst mistake of his life. But Asura cannot be reasoned with, and thus he strikes anyway. Even though he'd be more than justified, Kratos refrains from killing Asura on the spot. He holds back, still vainly hoping that this conflict can be resolved bloodlessly.Kratos even attempts to find common ground with his opponent to make him listen to reason. In Asura, Kratos sees himself before he became a better man and was still driven by rage. Asura, petulant and unmoved, refuses to back down. Kratos respectfully abides by Asura's request to "shut up" and resumes the fight wordlessly.He delivers what he hopes is a debilitating, non-lethal blow that will hopefully leave Asura subdued long enough so he can reflect on a lifetime spent being dominated by anger. But instead, Asura transforms into his Destructor form and Kratos realizes that he must put a stop to the fight before Asura inadvertently kills any innocents in his rage.Even after all of this, Kratos still respects Asura enough to give him a "worthy end" and he finally frees him from the wrath that has been controlling him, making him a monster no longer. It's so beautiful. I watch it every day and I still tear up every time I reach the end.Can't we all just learn from Kratos's example and stop these petty arguments and insults? It's not too late to become better men.
Lord Buddha wins easily this fighting, sar!!
>>150119218Jobs to any God of Water, Storm, and Rain
>>150119185Jesus's cosmology has 3 realms max (normal world, heaven, anti-heaven).Buddha has control over a trichilliocosm.
>>150119218>CHADcalagon wiped out a whole MOUNTAIN RANGE just by falling on itHOLY FUUUUUARK! Deathwing bros, runs for our LIVES...!
>>150119185
>>150119238Jesus' cosmology includes Buddha's cosmology and also views it as fiction.
>>150119245>Dime store matchupOkay then, let's do this.
>>150119237I'm sorry
No one.Gets.A drop.
>>150119185what a bad faith thread no pun intended
>>150119290.
>>150119290Staying hydrated is important, Superman! Don't make me one shot you, which I canonically am capable of!
>>150119238This is way more than 3 anon. Also there is an infinite size Heaven housing infinite people
>>150119290>>150119296IM AFRAID OF WATER NOW
>>150119290
>>150119312>see, hell is really big, it's the size of a...mountain! there are multiple resting places in the mountain, evenyawn>>One thousand of such worlds constitute a 'thousandfold world system'. A thousand of these makes up a 'second-order thousandfold world system'. Then, when multiplied a thousand times further, this makes a 'third-order world system' or 'trichiliocosm', a universe of a billion worlds. It is said that a single supreme nirmanakaya buddha has mastery over such a world system.
>>150119312You are aware the divine comedy isn’t from the bible, right?
Who’s the characterbro that’s currently spamming /co/‘s catalog with AI BBC porn?
>>150119365Me!~ I'm a KINGnicCHAD btw~
>>150119238I guarantee you there are christian scholars that believe in the multiverse and some kind of transcendental oneness. Powerscaling religions, especially major religions is a waste of time
>>150119387The nature of God means that if multiverses exist, then he must exist in all multiverses
HAHAHAHAHAHhttps://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/861964
>>150119356Neither are names of angels Only 3 of them were mentioned by names. Michael, Gabriel, and Abaddon
>>150119335What a very inefficient way to drink.
>>150119434Yup yup, anon thinks the Torah is fanfiction too
>>150119245I love that people have interpreted that the peak of Thangorodrim being destroyed in his fall, means that he's absolutely gigantic, even though Thorondor, being the size of a small commercial plane, battles him to a standstill.It's sort of like interpreting Sauron as being a giant, because Barad-Dur fell down when he was defeated.Then again, maybe Thorondor is just that much of a badass.
>>150119480Thorondor, dozens of other giant eagles, and an elf space ship that pulled the sun behind it, tho. And a Palantir.
>>150119492It wasn’t a spaceship, it was a magic flying boat captained by regular medieval humans. You can hardly compare lotr sun to the scientific sun neither, lotr sun is a glowing fruit grown on a tree that floats around the earth.
>>150119480Well, he has to be gigantic. He didn't just wipe out one of the volcanoes, he destroyed all three of them. And they were described as being the largest mountain range in middle earth. That's one chonky lizard.
Tell me a story
>>150119245This is a more reasonable scale probly
>>150119480I'd imagine that would be like Toothless vs the giant dragon in HTTYD, the giant eagle would be much more agile and manueverablehttps://youtu.be/UzCOrrjp5fY?t=93
Is he natty
>>150119278Post Melkor destroying a planet.
>dragonkek STILL seething to this day
>>150119461can it really be called fanfiction if it was made with HATRED?
Composite Fairy gapes Composite Dragon btw
>when you get in fight with a glazer>said glazer lie right in your face >called them out and show proof that they are lying>didn't get another respondHow many times have this happen to you?
>>150119671well duh Outerversalceus Fairy is a fairy and tanks everything Outerversalceus Dragon has
>>150119622Melkor got a permanent limp from battling a single mortal in a duel.The way that Tolkien's legendarium is written where basically the entire Silmarilion is a collection of legends in universe, which are likely partially fictional, and partially embelished, and the rest of the story being also written down by multiple characters in universe, makes it a really weird setting to try and scale, since just how true any of it is, is hard to tell.Even the names of the hobbits that we use aren't even their real names most of the time. Frodo's actual name is Maura Labingi.
>>150119696There's a world of difference between late stage Morgoth where he'd sunk 99% of his power into corrupting existence and early Melkor when he was soloing the rest of the Valar, to be fair.
>>150119696So he can't manifest a giant sword and cleave a planet in half and therefore he gets one shit by Sargeras?
THE KING OF KIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNGGGSSSS
>>150119705Sit DOWN, WoW KIDDY.
>>150119690Godzilla is a dragon and he GAPES any fairy faggot
>>150119730>lotrfags think sucking vsbattle cock will boost themMultiversal black kid from danny phantom, btw
>>150119730WoWsisters we’re going to get FODDERIZED by CHAD of the Rings again…
>>150119734Hulk is a fairy
>>150119730Man this sounds so FUCKING COOL if only the lore was SHOWN and RELEVANT to the story!
>>150119734Not all lizards are dragons anon...
>>150119734Mothra is a fairy and her mothussy will zero diff him
>>150119743>l-l-l-lotrf-EXIT
>>150119763Luke bros...We had better dodge this tone...
>>150119763Yodaxisters, hide from CHADalf, we must…
>>150119763Your cope to sucking vsbw cock is suckung more vsbw cock?
>>150119763>>1501197731 minute apart
>You don't get it Sargeras... I am irrelevant layers into the outerverse and my very BEING is EMBEDDED into the FABRIC OF REALI->RÀAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH>ACK! I'll be back in 50 years!https://youtu.be/L1XmubgIyq4?si=gyTBCV_9jCjvZPox
>>150119265Kakarot, BITCHingly, crying
>World of SCHIZOcraft
>>150119613He is on that system daily mission juice
>>150119785>Illidan RAPES Sargeras while the Pantheon of Titans WATCHESWTF?!
>>150119434Yes they are, 1 enoch is a real preflood book. All of the stuff that lists the angel names in art and retellings uses Enoch as the soource. 2 and 3rd enoch are written by rabbis to muddy the water and theyre fake, 1 Enoch is real.
>>150119296KINGtos does not give a FUCK
>>150119701That is trueBut with the nature of the Silmarilion being legends in universe, it's hard to tell how strong he was actually ever meant to be.Like, did the duel ever actually happen, or was it just a story made up later to try and explain the disappearance of a king who had lost everything, and maybe paint a better picture of his demise?Tolkien's legendarium is a weird meta narrative, and makes it hard to really scale anything besides just sort of taking everything at face value, and that can often lead to very inconsistent power levels.>>150119705I guess theoretically he could. How space actually works in LotR is never really explained in depth, so I'm not even sure if planets even existed while Morgoth was in Eä (The universe in which Arda, the world of LotR, is in).But we do know that the Ainur did refer to Eä as the Little Kingdom, which would mean that anything in Eä, like planets, would likely be considered extremely small to them.
This argument made me remember how kino this matchup was, CHADron rightfully won of course.https://youtu.be/_FD6Fyn2s0c?t=1062
A paladin from wow could beat a space marine librarian
>>150119855I remember the wait period and it just consisted of /dbg/ crying over the possibility of Sauron getting wanked to universal and robbing the Lich King
Sargearus could solo a chaos god
>World of BARELYAVOIDEDBEINGGW’SSLAVEcraft trying to pick a fight with their benevolent masters
WoW is weak, I'm just shitposting.But seriously, post Morgoth destroying a planet.
As a KING of KINGS by profession it is my duty to fix you sad little losers and make you into Better Men.
Illidan could beat a daemon primarch
>>150119826Yeah, I'm still not sure what that ending was meant to be about, because Sargaras should still be stronger than the rest of the pantheon combined, so I'm not sure what Illidan being there would accomplish.
Melkorbros, we must DUCK Sargeras and stick to fighting fellow scaling and statements man Sinestro instead…
>>150119890I can post Sauron getting crippled by a dog, and later by a regular human. Do those count?
>>150119890>Destroyed the Sun and Moon during Dagor Dagoroth.FFFFUUUARK...
>>150119906CHADgoth…
>>150119893I already started allowing my wife to fuck other men, KINGtos. My life has greatly improved, thanks for the advice.
>>150119896Illidan is going to beat him upIllidan is stronger than the titans combined and could've soloed argus.Reminder that argus was going to destroy the entire universe btw.
>A million trillion to one and rising, that’s the odds.>A chance to make the man a monster no longer…>A tree is nine million times multiversal, a dogsled is faster than light, this element is beyond what we can perceive… >Like mantra.>A thousand O-button presses.>A million.>A trillion.>I JUST. NEED. ONE.
>>150119906the sun in lotr is a pear on a boat >>150119513
>>150119915>My fucking max level (at the time) Blood Elf Paladin TANKED Argus' tanked, and killed himFUARK
>>150119915>Illidan is stronger than the titans combined and could've soloed argus.I quit early in Legion, so I'm not sure if you're just joking, but with how much they sucked him off just at the start of expansion, I could totally believe it.
I just one shot the lich king
>>150119941Ainz Ooal Gown…
>>150119928>>150119220So you're telling me Godzilla vs Hulk is much better than you have to quote it.
>>150119935At no point in the story was Illidan implied to stronger than the Titans. The Titans were free, fucking imprisoned Sargares back into their ship, and Illidan acts as the Jailor (Fuck Shadowlands Btw)
BAZINGA! *solos Seinfeld*
>>150119929That's poetic yes, it's still the fucking sun lol.
>>150119955It ain’t though.It’s literally a fruit grown from a tree.
>>150119941.....and then jobbing to fucking farm his mount for months. I never got that fucking stupid horse btw, fuck Arthas and Invincible
I just sucked the lich king’s rotten popsicle dick…
>>150119970Kel Thuzad......
Reminder Sonic RAPES and GAPES Goku and his entire verse
>>150119935Yeah I'm joking. I'm pretty sure that the guy who lost to burning crusade era players isn't gonna beat the guy who needed like titan buffs+ artifact weapons to fight AND he still killed those players
>BuddhaHe's surpsingly powerful(and /co/ related)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwuQRUuZ76w
>>150119970Jaina...
>>150119270This, but reverse.
On top of that, lotr planet is flat, and “space” there is just a small dome on top of it, where the stars are twinkly lights on that dome and the sun and moon are a sparkly fruit and a flower on flying boats (those boats of which were specified to be made of wood). Their “heaven” is also just a continent you can sail to on boats across the water
>>150119961It's not though. The existence of the sun is a vessel containing that fruit, which in LOTR is so full of life and heat that it forms the sun. There is still a sun in the sky in LOTR. You're taking the poetic and mythical bent of it to just say "oh it's just some fruit". It is a godly fruit that creates the same heat and intensity as a sun.
>>150119978....canonically likes Thrall
>>150119434And they aren't even powerful, archangels are actually really low on the angelic totempole but because of "arch", people assume they're top dogs
>>150119987Nowhere in Lotr is it said to produce the same heat as a scientific sun. It just lights up the skyIts predecessor that lit up everything was a glowing TREE that people would walk up to and touch and prune
I just ripped ofd the glow in the dark star sticker on my ceiling does that make me star level?
>>150119989'S BALLS! THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!
>>150120000FUARK!
>>150119998>Later, the Valar chose Arien to carry the new vessel of the Sun because she was the only one who could courageously bear the heats of Laurelin, and was unhurt by it. While in Valinor, Arien took a physical form similar to that of the Valar; but when she left Valinor, she forsook her raiment and became a "naked flame of fire, terrible in the fullness of her splendour".The other Valar couldn't even get near it, and they're described as easily enduring fire storms that scorched whole continents in their fights with Morgoth. It is, in fact, THE SUN.
>>150119974Goku is faster than sonic and with ui he would become untouchable to sonic
I AM THE MOST USELESS HORDE RACE LEADER IN ALL OF WOW
>>150120017Vol'jin...
I just farted and completely wiped out the entire LOTR cosmology by accident.
>>150120007THE SUN is millions of times bigger than earth and earth revolves around it due to its sheer massYour fruit is a small fruit that is flown on a wooden boat in a circle within the earth’s sky
I one shot Doomsday
>>150120026Okay so you're legit being retarded, I get it now.
I destroyed the Earth
>>150120022Kratos…
>>150120022Naruto-sama...
>>150120020...'s best friend, Lor'themar
>>150120022>>150120030>>150120035HULK...
>raaahh take this the entire lotr mythos!
>>150120007>Arien carried it up into the Heavens, giving light to the World. Hence, Anar rose in glory and the first dawn of the Sun was like a great fire glowing upon the towers of the Pelóri mountains in Aman. And the clouds of Middle-earth were kindled, and many waterfalls were heard. At this, Morgoth was dismayed, and he descended to the lowest pits of Angband, withdrawing his servants as well.Morgoth froze the world in darkness and ice and the sun when ignited instantly melted it all and returned the world to normal. It is CLEARLY intended to be THE SUN with a mythical, legendary bent as all things are in Tolkien's writings.
>The light of Vingilot became the sunWait, I thought it was implied to be Venus, hence why Venus moves across the sky.
>>150120034I get it now that I actually say the truth but you’re just a butthurt little cuck no matter what kek
I just farted, and the stench pissed off every single being in Middle Earth so much, that they all ganged up on me at once, raped me, and then beat the shit out of me (literally, I pooped my pants, and it stunk so bad they beat me up even more!)
>>150120052>NOOOO THE SUN'S NOT THE SUN YOU CAN'T SAY THATKek, keep crying bitch!
>>150120050Either you take the myths literally or you decalre them as myths. You can’t cherrypick which parts you like and which you don’t.Either it is a small fiery fruit going around inside the sky, or it is a giant ball of space plasma and the myths talking about it in relation to the Ainur are fake.
>>150119185I was gonna say that since Death Battle are friends with Nick Cramer (who's openly Christian) they wouldn't do it but it just dawned on me that Death Battle is more likely to use religious figures than have another episode with Harry Potter/Wizarding World characters
I NEED TO FUCK BEREN, FUCK MY FATHER.
Post Sauron destroying a planet.
Flowery language gives the lotr setting boundless high ends that would fold kratos passively
>>150120048I WONT FORGIVE YOU SHADOW YOU KILLED MY GIRLFRIEND NOW I RAPE MARIA
OH MY FLAT EARTH FISHBOWL HIGH OUTERVERSAL COSMOLOGY
>>150119961>It’s a fruit grown from a treeIt’s a fucking magical tree formed from the remains of two lamps that literally lit up all of Middle Earth and fucking changed landmasses when they broken by Melkor, I think I can believe that a sun like our own might have come from something like that.
>>150119546>Glaurung is a fat neckless lizardI mean, he did make Turin engage in incest, checks out that he'd look like a slob.
>>150120059I say what the book says.You wet the pants and let me fuck your wife because you cannot accept your fanfiction isn’t real.
Sonic is kinda gay
>>150120071And you already know how it works. HEre in powerscaling we all have autism and interpret everything a 100% true, valid and literal
>>150120068Luthien…
>>150120077No I in fact do not think a sun 1.3 million times the size of Earth was made on earth or is currently floating around inside Earth’s orbit
If the weakest character in your outerverse can not casually destroy or create a nigger-trillion universes in a single SHART it doesn't count.
>>150120077a sun like our own would eat the earth in a single flareLotrfags know nothing about the outside world.
holy shit
>>150120107Yep that’s definitely apple/tree/boat sized yup yup yup
>>150120051>Wait, I thought it was implied to be VenusIt is. I have no idea why anyone would think it's the sun.
>>150119850>Tolkien's legendarium is a weird meta narrative, and makes it hard to really scale anything besides just sort of taking everything at face value, and that can often lead to very inconsistent power levels.Yeah, it makes for a wonderfully fascinating read, but is absolutely terrible for flat out powerscaling.
>Vingilot being literally Jupiter despite being a boat that used to reside on Earth? I see no issues here>A fruit being literally the sun? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>150120107>YawnSay it with me! SUPERMAN wins because he has no limits!
>>150120131It’s a silmaril you daft cuck, a glowing crystal. People hold silmarils in their hands
No more brother wars(I'm only saying this because I lost)
>>150119220KRATOSWASTEACHINGASURA
>>150120144Lost wut
I kneel...and the last digit is my penis size
>>150120140… and is implied to have become a fucking planet.
>>150120149bvll
I won… and the last two digits will be the age of the concubine I take.
Post universal feats
>>150119978Is a Dreadlord.
>>150120149What unit?
>Hulk: Me scale to multiverses by smashing things that can fit inside a single universe>/dbg/: Awww you’re so sweet honey>Morgoth: I scale to star level from beating a sun that can fit inside the Earth>/dbg/: HELLO HUMAN RESOURCES
>>150120155No it’s not implied, because the mechanism by which it revolves around earth is by a wooden BOAT
>>150120044Nah, Lor'themar is too busy plapping Thalyssra to bother being in the story.
>>150120145…that goring innocent women was alright as long as you feel guilty years later. Sadly, MONSTERsura rejected his teachings.
>>150120181>ThalyssraLiadrin SISTERS?! I THOUGHT OUR HEROINE AND LORD WERE TOGETHER?! I THOUGHT THEY HAD AN ADOPTIVE CHILD?!!
>>150120180...a boat which was made by the gods as a divine tool to fly through space, yes?
>>150120166
>>150119976Goku isn't even the most powerful in his own universe in the thing he's based on...
>>150120191Liadrin is a virgin. And no, molesting other female blood elves does not count.
Because some lotranons are confused (and others are now desperately lying for powerlevels)Venus is “the star of Earendil”, it’s one of the silmarills on a boat in the sky, flown by Earendil. It’s not a literal planet, it’s a shiny gemstone, that before it was used as a star it was a jewel in morgoth’s crown and that mortal characters would hold in their hands. Nowhere is it implied to be an actual planet, its backstory is long and specific, it’s a shiny gemstone that twinkled on a crown now twinkling in the skydomeThe sun is a different thing, a fruit grown from the tree they used to create the silmarils and now fulfills the same purpose as that tree, being flown around the skydome as well
Oh yes.BOATSCALING.Now this is some prime LotR discussion.
How do you know that a character's feats weren't just done on very weak versions of those things?
>>150119279>Billy the Mountain>Billy the Mountain
>boat scalingHoly FUAAARK, he's Berserk tier
>>150120211That boat? The one thay hit Jobthulu
Tolkien envisioned LoTR as being the backstory to our real life Earth btwThat means a hand sized object that could fit inside the Earth became an actual planet because no one would say that the Venus they can now see with advanced technology is a silmarill btw
>>150120196No? A boat made of wood by a half-elf half-human sailor. I feel more and more annoyed i’m clearly the only man who can read in this thread
Lord of the Rings JOBS to Lord of the Boats
>>150120230>>150120209
>>150120236>Aulë, the "Greatest Craftsman of Arda", then created a vessel to hold the last golden fruit of Laurelin. However, the Maia Tilion, chosen to steer the vessel of the Moon, had traversed seven times before the vessel of the Sun was ready. So after the vessel for the Sun, named Anar the Fire-golden was ready at last, Arien carried it up into the Heavens, giving light to the World. So you have no idea what you're talking about? Okay.
>>150120227Which makes it outerversal Also it may or may not be related to the boat of Wulfrik the Wanderer from Warhammer Fantasy
AIslop:>Sargeras would defeat Morgoth because the World of Warcraft universe operates on a much higher cosmic scale than J.R.R. Tolkien's, with Sargeras's feats of power—like destroying universes and fighting the Titans—far surpassing Morgoth's galaxy-shattering abilities. Sargeras also commanded vastly larger and more powerful cosmic armies, possessing infinite numbers of demons that reformed in the Twisting Nether after death, whereas Morgoth's forces, though formidable, could not contend with this cosmic scale.But the REAL answer is a bunch of LOTR characters hop into a flying boat powered on demiuegical schizobabble and it rams straight through Sargeras' instantly erasing his existence from the reality-song.Good night, everybody.
>>150120191>>150120204https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijN4EW6meRkThalyssra sisters....why isn't she there to defend her beloved....
>>150120166I don't think Nebula Man is actually universal. He's like a human sized universe isn't he? Infinite from the inside looking out but not from the outside looking in? I lost my train of thought there :( but I'm very sure he's made of some kinda super matter for all intents and purposes
>>150120265Because she stays in the kitchen like a good wife is supposed to.
>>150120256We’re talking about Venus and Earendil.Or at least *I* am. (YOU) now jist completely changed thhe subject from Jupiter/Venus to the sun, because you got caught lying
>jist>thheHands literally TREMBLING from being trounced so soundly. I am SUCH a sagacious Tolkien scholar!
https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/%C3%86lfwineLoTRbros how does our world being the real life world in ancient times effect our cosmlogy scaling?
>>150120256>https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/ArienLiteral wiki copy-pasteNo wonder you Lotr manbabies never know a thing about your own series, KEK
>>150120230Or, get this, the simarill and boat was never real, and it's just a legend used to explain why Venus moves across the sky, written down in a book that Tolkien later "found and translated".
>>150120300The real world scales above all fiction, so that just makes it stronger.
>>150120300>>150120310Lord of the KINGS…
I could beat George Washington in a fist fight, you know
>>150120301>A-AAAIIIEEEE JUST BECAUSE THE WIKI SAYS IT MEANS IT'S NOT TRUE!!!KWAB
>>150120166https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKnpPCQyUecYou WILL kneel.
>>150120318We know, Abraham Lincoln.
>>150120318No shit. I'm pretty sure all of us can beat a skeleton in a fist fight.
>>150120330Post Lincolns feats
>>150120262One single Balrog solos the entire burning legion. They have OUTERVERSAL SCALING.
>>150120300>Some random Anglo Saxon guy getting ready to singlehandedly BTFO all cosmology and scaling debunks of LoTR by sailing in a wooden boat to fucking Valinor to meet some Elves
>>150120336BOOM.
HOLY FUAAARKKKK I CAN'T CONTAIN MY POWER I'M ABOUT TO DESTROY A WHOLE HYPERVERSE, SOMEONE STOP ME!
>>150120336
>>150120357FVARK
>>150120356Lord of the KINGS…
>>150120318But he was 20 stories tall and made of radiation
>>150120357...Fuck my saiyan pride, I'm kneeling RIGHT NOW!!
>>150120372You got a citation for that claim George FRAUDington?
>>150120327>doesn't even go beyond the milky way galaxylol
>>150120356Tom Bombadil...
>>150120354Georgexisters…
>>150120300>>150120310>Sargeras: THIS IS THE END MORGOTH I WILL AVENGE WOW'S HUMILIATION AT THE HANDS OF SAURON AND DESTROY YOUR WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD!>*Ineffectual planetary level attack*>Morgoth: No R>F scaling?>Sargeras:
>>150120354>>150120372>>150120380>Lincoln didn't fight a war >CHADinton fought TWO major wars>Was regarded a GOD among menDon't shit talk the superior
>>150119220I strongly despise how DB guys are starting to think they're genuine writers capable of implementing themes like the "Anybody can be a hero," shit in Miles vs Deku was so awful.
>>150120420They can sometimes pull it off, they made Simon vs Kyle and Hulk vs Godzilla work.
>>150120420>guys are starting to think they're genuine writers capable of implementing themesThat's every fan creator's curse. Modmakers are especially susceptible.
We must also consider the ontological perspective. Lord of the Rings is the MONOMYTH from which modern fantasy descends. Sargeras is merely a PALE OFFSHOOT of Melkor. If anything, the original dark lord would be TEACHING him how to fulfill his role.
Bored of the PeensHurl'd of Snorecraft
>>150120451what's this dark bitch doing?
>>150120451I need more fantasy like this, is Malazan good?
>>150120451>the original dark lord would be TEACHING him how to fulfill his role.They both got punked and locked away for the rest of days. Not much to teach here.
>Marvelfags invading 2hou and One piece threads /v/ threadsFags.
>>150120451I actually thought the animation for Morgoth vs. Sargeras was good. I know a lot of people had problems with it, but I thought it was great.Even if you disagree about Sargeras losing, given the power gap between the two it makes sense for Morgoth to take little damage. It also put Morgoth in some kind of a mentor or elder role to Sargeras, and let Morgoth show how far he had come by defeating someone who had been down the same path as him. He wasn't just fighting Sargeras, he was TEACHING Sargeras. And I think that's very badass in a way. That Morgoth would take the lessons he learned and help someone who was just like him.If this weren't a Death Battle I'm sure they would have happily destroyed all of Middle Earth and Azeroth and taught each other well. The alternate ending is weird, even if cool in its own way. It was nice to see Morgoth reunite with Ungoliant, but it feels weird to have him just stand there and take that punch.I haven't played Sargeras's game though (but after watching this fight I think I might watch a playthrough!) so I might be missing stuff but as a big LoTR fan I thought they did Morgoth justice and from what I saw they treated Sargeras with the utmost respect. What character has ever gotten an alternate ending made just for them?
>>150120482>CUTEhoushame on the marvelfags, we could be missing on pictures of cute tiny girls because of then>One PISSBASED marvelCHADS putting the Warm Pissers in their place
>>150120482Where's the Touhou thread, I want to see what the Marvelfags are getting up to.
Just popping in but Morgoth's scream when he was attacked by Ungoliant was calculated to be at 8.24 gigatons [high-end] of TNT equivalent. Pretty cool!
>Hulkposter being based like alwaysKek.
>>150120485>I'm sure they would have happily destroyed all of Middle Earth and Azeroth and taught each other well.Morgoth is a rabid maniac who hates existence itself because he can't stand it NOT being his creation.He ain't teaching anyone.
Pan? A hero
Match ups for this feel?
>>150120526Morgoth will temporarily put up with Sargeras to ensure both planets are destroyed first.
>>150120380https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6OOuPI5c0Peer reviewed documentary
>Take a look at the One Piece thread>Some retard is having an unironic meltdown and lashing out at the Marvelfags and the One Piece fags constantly
>>150119185Jesus has no combat feats. Turning water into wine is meh.
>>150120550Jesus chain scales with the OT Prophets, so whatever the OT Prophets can do, Jesus can also do.
>>150120541I want to grab that cat’s head and give it aggressive forehead kisses. STOP BEING FUCKING CUTE WITH ME!
>>150120550I dunno,he could turn the 60% of water inside your body into wine
>>150120550He turns Buddha's blood into acid. Post Buddha's acid resistance feats.
>>150119648To one thing Bardock fags hold on to, to say Bardock win is his speed, which was scaled from Goku, dodging Rocks, which even we can react to…
>>150120530I read this in the ancestors voice
>>150120357is immortal a jobber? or is he really strong cause if omni man didn't exist or vultrimite what would he scale to?
>>150120451>Lord of the Rings is the MONOMYTH from which modern fantasypffff
>>150120608INSECURE Megami Tensei...
>>150120610>MegaTen out of nowhere
>>150120615>Bringing up SMT around the only tripfag in these threads who constantly talks about SMTYup.
What does R>F even mean?
>>150119204Buddha is BEYOND tier 0
>>150120451Conan is older and its DNA is still in fantasy to this day swimming in its wombs, and Lovecraft monsters are canon to it
I like SMT
>>150120646Gay
>>150120635>BuddhaAn agnostic FUCK that does nothing and give nothing.
>>150120646DoctorGreen with his trip off...
>>150120420Nu-GoW is just one of those things that attracts pathetic retards due to being both piss easy and supporting their mopey passive cuck behavior.
>>150119730Canon
>>150120654This.Tried to get some new guys to try at least the beginner friendy GoW game, which was 2. And they cried it was piss difficult, and had no story.
>>150120530Anything involving 8th Gate Might Guy.
>>150120022Wukong...
>>150120022Azathoth...
>>150120083>You wet the pantsSAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE SUN!!!!!!
>>150120628Reality transcending fiction. Basically, imagine an author and his story, or even you and a lie you made. The author is outerversal in comparison to the story.So when all of DC comics is fiction on the Overvoid, Superman and Flash get to outerversal when they do shit beyond the Overvoid. When Jiraiya from Naruto is superior to his porn novels, Naruto doesn't get to be outerversal. Why? Because verse equalization and R>F are ultimately scams made by nerds to wank their favorites when in reality it should be a massive anti-feat.
>>150120701hypernova trvthnvke
>>150120310it scales below it though
>>150120022Doctor...
>>150120718God (Real World because he exists) solos fiction albeit because the Bible said so
>>150120701>when in reality it should be a massive anti-feat.true
>>150120720...Who?...are we talking about again?
>>150119915Doesn't "universe" include the afterlife + wonky time twisting nether and a bunch of other dimensions? Sounds a bit beyond just that.
>>150120088I struggle to call either movie good, but the sonic movie is more entertaining to watch.
>>150120567Buddha transcends the need for blood
>>150120651>ESL CHADdha BROKE you.
>>150120725God JOBS to fiction
>>150120720which onethere are like 5 characters in these threads who fit that description
ENOUGH. Answer me.Which God of War game is the best?
>>150120798I don't remember Sonic Land built for it
>>150120651I actually agree with Jobddha the faggot on this one. I am legally allowed to say up is down and KINGtos is kino.
>>150120827Every single pre Norse game.
>>150120651KINGddha the POWERFUL dropped a massive fact there though
I'm a MarioCHAD through and through but the Sonic movies are genuinely better.Sonic is a weak jobber bitch and everything related to him sucks, but the Mario movie sucked a lot. Mario still mogs him in every other category, don't get me wrong.
>>150120842Also I only like the third one btw, I wouldn't watch the first two again.
>>150120842Favorite Mario game?
>>150120842I clapped in the theater when Live and Learn played.
>>150119613JUICER-W00 vs. NATTY CHADOW when?
>>150120836Even Ascension?
>>150120861Okay maybe not that one, still a better use of your time than Norse KEKtos's games though.
>>150120830Why yes Mario is the larger intellectual property.I do not see what that has to do with the quality of the two movies.One is an Alvin and the Chipmunks clone turned shonen for kidsThe other is a nostalgia cashgrab that rushes every recognizable thing on screen to get people to clap when they know what the thing is with the obnoxious "make the characters look like the celebrities that voice them" tendency from the early 2000s.I was at least a little interested to see what Sonic 2 was going to be likeI do not care about the Yoshi egg teaser.
>>150120852I have too many. Mario Galaxy, Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Sports Mix, Mario and the jobber rat at the Olympic Winter Games, 3D World, World, Kart Double Dash, Party 6, Party 7, Party 8, Fortune Street, Mario Power Tennis, Maker, Maker 2, and more.
>>150120874Galaxy 2 was a big downgrade
Hmm
Real Mario scholars know that Super Mario Sunshine is the best Mario game.
>>150120876I ultimately agree but still really like it
>>150120878Thus is true
>>150120878But enough about 3D land.
>>150120878Real Mario scholars think the sand bird is fun.
>>150120874>3D World>No 3D Land
>>150120890Okay let's not take it THAT far.
Post absolute STOMPS.
>>150120894I never played that one and my 3ds broke but I'm gonna emulate it
>>150120901Do it
>>150120898sonic and shadow on their way to join the last stand for Composite Fiction v KINGtos
>>150120898>Xavier why'd you make them start buttfucking each other>Tony I didn't do shit
ENTERhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGVtEjqB_s
>>150120907...and by "composite fiction" I mean "composite marvel fiction"
>>150120898
>>150120910Mario's MASTERS....
>>150120853I clapped when Steve said Chicken Jockey and I.. am Steve unironically.
>>150120912...because KINGtos already oneshotted everything else, forgetting about marvel because they're so irrelevant
>>150120929...and by oneshotted, I mean their laundry.
>>150120898Shadow could wipe out half of that crowd of street level fodder with ONE use of Chaos Control.
>>150120938yeah so could I after eating a burrito, not impressive
>>150120878That's not Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games
>>150120942Dante from Devil May Cry...
>>150120944Vancouver (Wii) was just as good.2 goats can coexist.
>>150120944Peach and Mario are just friends because he's pounding that hedgehog stew.
>>150120938>5 seconds time stopEven Jotaro (50 year old) beats this Jobber
>>150120944Why is Mario still in his normal outfit while Amy is decked out for winter season?
>>150120951>Peach and MarioWe don't see Peach's other hand
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EN-fc8JmMUE&t=138ENTER>>150120961He doesn't fear the cold.
>>150120961Why is Sonic still naked
>>150120970Sonic is clearly leading a nudist life style.
>>150120956Considering base Sonic can SPEED BLITZ Reverse Flash with it, I'd say most of those Marvelites are pretty well FUCKED.
>>150120980IDWankED sonic needs Chaos Emeralds to keep up with Reverse Flash. Reminder Batman with stuff he made SOLOS Metal Sonic, the version that did 99% on Eggman vs Bowser
>>150121000BatGAWD has beaten Darkseid and Superman, of course he trashes that metal jobber
>>150120898GODulk gapes them both.
If Sonic actually survived Mario, he would be like this
>>150121000Batman? Spider-man fodder
>>150121026MERCYrio taught him to be a Better Man…
>>150120898W-w-wait, is that HULK?!?
>>150121028>Takes away prep-time, Batman's most powerful weaponCHOKEderman would job instantly to web dissolving chemnicals and spider sense blocking wave emitters.
>>150121037>SPIDER SAMA!!!! LET ME PREP!!!!!!BatBITCH...
>>150120980>needs an emerald to perform a catwoman level feat
Post someone using the term ‘outerversal’ unironically without looking retarded.
>>150121043Kek, the FAGses are THAT WEAK??????
>>150121043Catwoman has BOUNDLESS speed TOO?!
>>150121043High 1-A Catwoman is DC's strongest character
>>150121057FoDderC caps at hyper
>>150121051KINGtos is an outerversal BEAST
>>150121064FUCK YOU KRATOS!
>chemnicals
>>150121037Batman has better durability and peter dies to explosives
Post the term 'outerversal' actually being used in a work of fiction.
Batman is just stronger and tougher
>>150121043KWABOOTY
>>150121086BatGAWD tanked that, SpiderFRAUD planked that...!!
>>150121080Vs Battle wiki is fiction and therefore should not be used as a debate or source
>>150121072I think Mario would beat Kratos and I'm tired of pretending otherwise!
Batman got raped
>>150121115Mario is a psychopathic monster and thus would never be able to beat Kratos until he’s taught to be a Better Man
Superman…you are a Monster no longer.
>>150121123Mario stomps on Kratos head
>>150121093>Originally coined by Vs Battle WikiYup. 'Outerversal' is not a thing. No work of fiction has ever used the term 'Outerversal'. If you look up 'Outerversal' on any search engine, the first result is Redditors making fun of the term and the rest are battleboarding Fandom wikis
>>150120546Welcome to One Piece threads after SnK, JJK, MHA and Dragon Ball died.
>>150121140Link bread
>>150120667>And they cried it was piss difficult, and had no story.Lol, Ninja Gaiden would WARP them, then.
>>150121080>>150121135It was only used in the Kratos Cookbook
>>150121146trvke
>>150121093>>150121135I jobbed
>TROONhou /v/ thread JOBBED to the HulkGODYup!!
Why does CHADsus SCHOLARttles LORDki cause so much anger?
>>150121140Damn and that isn’t even on /a/, I can’t imagine how bad it is on the home board if /v/ One Piece threads aren’t usable. >>150121144https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/719353854#bottom
>>150121157Ainz-San…you are a Monster no longer.
>>150121135Outerversal and other such terms should be used by beings beyond our universe. Like beings made of universes, boundless in size.Not fucking streetshitting humans walking in gay spandex, primitive axe wielding "demigods", or big green bloated fucks.
I really, really want to make an image of Zly and Goku spitroasting Velvet Crowe
>>150121161>KINGtos and Marvelfag posts didn't get deleted>Some random Gokufag who made barely any posts got nuked instead alongside the thread schizohttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/719353854/#q719385042
>>150121157Ainz-sama TANKED that, you worm!!
>>150121161>can’t imagine how bad it is on the home boardWell, there's at least one dedicated retard spamming aislop for hours on end. Gay porn spam. Reddit reposts.Samefagging.Completely deranged agendaposting.Mindless waifushittery.Melties and more spam.Even when new chapter drops, it is discussed through the lens of dementia.
>>150121174God I love that bitch so fucking much. And the crazy faces she makes too.
>>150121172Gokufag is a monster no longer.
>>150121183>Gay porn span>Reddit reposts>Samefagging>Completely deranged agendaposting>Melties and more spam>Even when new Death Battle videos drop, it is discussed throughthe kens of dementoa/dbg/… HOME……
Who should Goku fight to redeem himself like Hulk? Not Superman again, but someone else.
>>150121193Kratos’ dogs. One of them
>>150121191>IESLB
>>150121191We are sane no longer.
>>150121193Sonic.
>>150121183Sounds like here
>>150121200Is Sonic faster?
>>150121197>I Eat Semen Like BreakfastOkay, you do you, Anon.>>150121157STACYqua won Kazuma btw
>>150121157QUEENqua was TEACHING Ainz!
>>150121208He’s faster than Flash, who’s faster than Goku. Yea.
>>150121233Do speed stats even matter when DB consider both you and your opponent to be immeasurably fast?
>>150121249Yes, if DB wants to make one side to win for no real reason.
>>150121208Game? Probably not unless they go with even more swank than usual for Sonic.Archie? Yeah, they already have done so multiple times.Also, depends on if they use Heroes/Filler/Toeiverse
Why did Goku have trouble with this chump again...?
>>150119185i hope Nezha can join in one day
>>150121157>Reddit cutout Deserve a reddit response https://www.reddit.com/r/awwnimate/comments/1n2dj99/new_party_member_acchi_kocchi/
>CHADit
>>150121291Nezha flopped and it was a government propaganda ploy to get AmeriGODs to care about communism
ENTER!
>>150121286Goku would unironically be faster regardless. If they use quantifiable speed, they put Solaris at quadrillions c while DB characters are at sextillions c, if immeasurable speed is used, they could use the cooler instant transmission feat to argue that ss1 alone is that fast and peak goku outspeeds via wank multipliers + ultra instinct.
>>150121301Nezha WON
>>150121200>inb4 they do Archie Sonic vs Xeno Goku and we get another "I TOLD YOU, ITS. NO. USE!" and it's YOU'RE. TOO. SLOW! and somehow, somewhere, a wallykek is seething.
>>150121314Don't mind if I do.
>>150121323>they put Solaris at quadrillions c while DB characters are at sextillionsBruh
>>150121323Speedku the ftl...
>>150121327He specifically lost to Sun Wukong. He was beaten so badly that he had to cry and whine to his extended government family.
Wally > Sonic > Silver >>>>>>> all of Dragon Ball
>>150121348But Erlang is his FRIEND...
Dyspo was the first dragonball character to actually be faster than light.
>>150121355Hunting Wukong for 7 days and 7 nights to be boiled down into elixer is not friendly. They tried everything that is depicted his Hell in the Heavenly court and got creative with it.
>>150121370HEROlang was TEACHING him...
>>150121370Yeah and what happened afterwards
>>150121373He failed too idiot. Literally took his magic dog, Lao Fucking Zi, and a Deus Ex Machina device to subdue him.
>>150121384He was HOLDING back in order to TEACH him FRIENDSHIP'S VIRTUES...
What have these threads TAUGHT you in your time here?
>>150121386He broked out and started to solo the heavens. Only Jesus was able to step in and stop Wukong
>>150121394Most feats are statements, yes even in capeshit
>>150121417>JesusHe loses to Wukong THOUGH
>>150121394I've learned that if someone makes a post I disagree with, I can just post another reply with the exact opposite of their statement to have a moral victory.
>>150121323And without wank Goku still has better speed feats than Sonic.
>>150121417He was TAUGHT SLOWLY...
>>150121394Oh yeah, Bejita did beat Shadow. He vaporized him
>>150121362most fictional characters aren't lightspeed at all
This is probably one of if not the biggest stomp of the entire show. Would Archie Sigma have changed anything?
>>150120530RoboCop vs Terminator
>>150121394Gandalf could have circled the world one million times in an instant with his boundless hyperversal speed but he didn't want to steal the spotlight from Frodo
>>150121439He wasn't in that form
>>150121442>Forgive me, Eru...I must go all out, just this once...
>>150121445Hero
>>150121394Lowballing is extremely fun.
>>150121445That single Balrog? Could SOLO all of Warcraft.
>>150121450TRVKE
>>150121421Wukong is directly countered by beings like Jesus. Guanyin is literally the dipicted and sometimes regarded as the Virgin Mary.
>>150121458>beings like Jesus"Being like" won't help unless you think every brick is Superman
>>15012144597 infinite dimensions and a few outerverses were destroyed in this clash btw, the fellowship just couldn't observe it as their existence was limited to the physical plane.
>>150121450Eh, maybe if we go by books, since even in LotR Balrog is shown to be proficient is dark magic and have some sort of fear aura, in addition to being physically strong. But then again, who knows.
>>150121463>97 infinite dimensions and a few outerverses were destroyed in this clash btw,Including the one where it's a harem anime where everyone in the Fellowship except for Frodo are sexy girls.
>>150120573It should go:Speed: NolanAcceleration: Tie Strength (Lifting): NolanStrength (Striking): BardockBattle IQ: BardockDurability: BardockEndurance: NolanRange: Bardock+In a neutral environment (Well-lit floored void) Bardock takes a narrow victory because stronger abilities and more varied experience means the points where Nolan edges out are mitigated/Neutral + Moon: Strong favor BardockEarth-like Planet with Moon: Nolan's higher capacity for speed and ability to make use of the expanded environment means Bardock is a bit of a sitting duck.Potentially the increase from Oozaru would be enough to resolve this, but if Nolan only wants to achieve a kill, then he can fly outside of the combat zone, build up speed, and ram through Bardock.Nolan would likely be injured as a result of the collision, but it should be enough to kill Bardock given Saiyans don't have the same endurance as Viltrumites.
>>150121458wukong was countered by Buddha being giga beyond boundless
Bardock? More like BarDOG.
>>150119480Some LotR lore guy made a video on Ancalagon and concluded he couldn’t be as big as a mountain because all dragons came from the same pit that isn’t that big. He also correctly pointed out how many large things are destroyed once certain characters are killed in LotR, like how the One Ring being destroyed caused Mordor to collapse.
>>150121460>SupermanThank for the TIP. Superman MET and Worship JESUS
>>150121445Now I'm imaging Lord of the Rings told as a generic anime>ORA ORA, you got a lot of nerve coming around my mines Olorin...You're a million years too early to pick fight with me and live! KISAMA!
>>150121489ESLsus...
>>150121486I mean, nothing said the pit SURVIVED him coming out of it
>>150121486It's unfortunate that people took one random pic where Ancalagon is absurdly huge and just spammed it much that it's taken as canon.But I don't think it's correct to equate Barad Dur and Mordor getting ruined after Sauron's defeat because he literally held it together with power od the Ring, and Anc just faceplanting into a mountain and causing it to break.
>>150121489Damn, when Wukong SLAMS Jesus, he'll also take down Supes????????
>>150121501*Three mountains
>>150121481>>150121489You mean like Jesus
Canon factEru's cock occupies 99 outerverses while flaccid
>>150121506Jesus is barely universal, God needed 6 days and an entire day of rest
>>150121436Wank off for both? Yeah probably. Archie Sigma is blessed with his ultimate form being fairly brief in onscreen time but displaying cosmic feats.Ultron has some lower showings that make the cosmology stuff more wankish in nature.Wank on? It is closer and as a result Ultron's hacking and assimilation options are victory lynchpins.
>>150121491>Fellowship finds Balin's tomb>Ten episodes of flashbacks >Gandalf confronts Durin's Bane>Constant flashbacks to explain what "flame of Udun" means and such>Balrog spends at least half an episode talking mad shit about dwarves, Noldor, Gandalf, Edain and whatnot >Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas narrate the fight while hobbits do the dramatic UGH, KSOO
I miss the sameCHAD army
>>150121513JeetDah needed 1825 days to be apart of that universe.
>>150121498>>150121501https://youtu.be/gieLZDHbpZA?si=xlNdkTrP2EWWVJjMI mean you can just watch it yourself. Ancalagon being that big makes absolutely zero sense if you think about it for two seconds.
>>150121521>that universeNo.
>>150121498Memes aside, imagine being a normal man/elf fighting in that battle, thinking Morgoth's forces are finally losing for good, trying to catch your breath and then a colossal winged monstrosity like nothing you've seen before crawls out of the ground, belching fire everywhere.
>>150121521why are posting racist slurs while defending a brown-skinned man? doesn't the hypocrisy make you feel bad?
>>150121484Well a derision, this isn't exactly inaccurate. Saiyans under Frieza were effectively reduced to dogs of war. Bardock, even in a hypothetical where he survives, has skills that are ill-suited for peaceful society and he'd be largely limited to mercenary work.
Arguing that Ancalagon wasn't that big defeats the entire point, I think. The Silmarillion era is meant to be mythic, legendary, a time of marvels and larger than life spectacles that have long since faded to memory by the time of the Lord of the Rings. Ancalagon was the Dragon of All Dragons, Morgoth's secret super weapon against the Valar. If people want to think he was a kaiju sized monstrosity who destroyed a mountain range in his death throes, why not let them? It invokes wonder.
Vishnu >>>> your dumb gods and messiahs
>>150121521his universe is way better though
>>150121544good morning sar please report to de call center or I firing you bloody basterd
>>150121544Dies to Wukong
ENOUGH.https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/11k1iln/lotr_ancalagon_probably_isnt_the_size_of_a/CHADdit SCHOLARS have already settled this.
>>150121544This is your VISHnu???
>>150121560Unironically more retarded than r/powerscaling at some things
>>150121498>>150121527https://youtu.be/BRw7rvLdGzU?t=61Was it kino?
>>150121560Post characterrant being retarded so we can laugh at it
>>150121538Gold>>150121560Mold
.......
>>150121568Well, they tried.
>>150121587Wow composite Godzilla is so fucking weak that Ultima had to step in to give him infinite stats in everything
>>150121534Weren't saiyans uplifted from their equivalent of middle ages?
>>150121587STOOPID LIZARD
>>150121587
>>150121587>GiH Twitter statements will surely give me the wi—ACK!
>>150121587....!
>>150121605Godzilla has both statements and feats, but Hulk is ultimately BELOW THAT
HULK HATE WEAKLING!
Isn't TOBA like minus infinity D
Characters that could burst into the BELOW, kick the One Below All's ass, and perma-kill Hulk?
>>150121617>HULK HATE WEAKL- AIEEEEEEEEEE NOT THE ARCHETYPE HULK NO UNDERSTAND PUNY BANNER PLEASE SAVE HULKKKKKKKKKKK
>>150121617Hulk has every right to HATE Banner, but he doesn't. LOVE YOURSELF NOW
>>150121625Wukong could but he doesn't need to
>>150121538People just want to clearly define and measure things. It's not a bad thing by itself - after all, story has to have internal consistency, - I feel like it's become a goal in itself to put a ruler to every little thing, to have a verified and fact-checked verdict about everything. Every in-story statement becomes a fact, every line of narration is a specific scientific description. Every throwaway saying clearly meant for flavor - unresolved plot thread that must be painstakingly elaborated on.
>>150121625Simon might be able to
>>150121632NOOOO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IS THERE SINCERITY AND EMOTIONAL PATHOS WHERE'S THE IRONIC KEKOLDING HELP ME
>>150121538Because LotR is a grounded fantasy setting and Tolkien is not the type to randomly throw in a Cloverfield sized monster in the middle of his world of elves vs orcs.
>>150121655LotR wasn't a grounded setting in the past, that's the point
>>150121632Hero
>>150121659Yes it was lmao. The god tiers of the verse, the Valar, needed Eru to destroy a corrupted chunk of land.
>>150121681>corruptedyup yup
>>150121681There were literal continent destroying battles all over the place in the First Age. READ NIGGA, READ!
>>150121681A trillion Hulks? Wouldn't do anything to that rock.
>>150121692No there weren’t. It took HUNDREDS of years of constant fighting to destroy the continent. You read, nigger.
>>150121655>Tolkien is not the type to randomly throw in a Cloverfield sized monsterWatcher in the Water just shows up randomly and never appears again.Nameless things under Misty Mountains? Mentioned once.UnSHITliant is just a primordial force that can molest Morgoth - no real explanation where she came from or why. Tolkien changed his opinion on many things in LotR many times too - from origins of orcs to what the fuck were Blue Whizzards doing.Silmarillion specifically describes a time of primordial fuck and suck, where gods were running amok. Shit was wild and flying kaiju that got TAUGHT by a magic boat is hardly the most outlandish thing.
>>150121698trvke
>>150121704>It took HUNDREDS of years of constant fightingBefore gods got involved.
>>150121587I’m ngl I wish Godzilla threw hands way more in this fight, like since it’s composite you could have him dropkick hulk or pick him up, I dunno, also I know Ultima is nigh featless but I wish we could’ve actually seen more of his work too like whatever Reddit was saying about law manipulation. I know the fights can only go for like 4 minutes but still
>>150121655>And he descended upon Earth in power and majesty greater than any other of the Valar, as a mountain that wades in the sea and has its head above the clouds and is clad in ice and crowned with fire and smoke; and the light of his eyes was like a flame that withers with heat and pierces with a deadly cold.>“the Valar endeavoured ever, in despite of Melkor, to rule the Earth and to prepare it for the coming of the Firstborn; and they built lands, and Melkor destroyed them; valleys they delved and Melkor raised them up; mountains they carved and Melkor threw them down; seas they hallowed and Melkor spilled them; and naught might come to peace or lasting growth, for as surely as the Valar began a labour so would Melkor undo it or corrupt it.NOOOO NO THE VALAR KAIJU BATTLES!! IT'S GROUNDED!
>>150121759Uhhhh groundedsisters????
>>150121759>he destroyed mountainsK-Kratos bros...?
>>150121738Apparently he was gonna have a beam struggle with Hulk's eye lasers but that's pretty much everything they mentioned for him regarding scrapped scenes for the fight, aside from that it was always meant to have Hulk dominating throughout most of it.
>>150121767KINGtos cannot lose to weak fodder-verse like LotR...
>>150121781..." he cried as the Balrog GAPED him.
>>150121790This is canon
>>150121790No lies detected.
>>150121759Morgoth vs Fingolfin pics are always so fucking KINO.That duel is so weirdly anime, Fingolfin feels like granddad of all the heroes who fight demon lords.
>>150121790Not canon and lies detected.
>>150121790This is canonical.
>>150121759https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Ar-Pharaz%C3%B4n>AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE IS THAT A NORMAL HUMAN KING?!?!?! FUUUUCK HELP US, O GREAT ERU, OR WE’RE FINISHED…!!!!Same guys who beat Morgoth btw.
>>150121816...in the post this was quoting.
>>150121820LotR KINGS are THAT STRONG!??!?!!!!!
>>150121595Uhh, maybe? We aren't super familiar with the Pre-Enslavement period of the Saiyans after the Tsufurian/Tuffle genocide. We don't even really know if Saiyans were already space faring or not before the Tuffles.
>>150121820>Numenorians>Normal humansYou clearly haven't read the book.
>>150121829>slightly taller and stronger than a regular humanFUARK…
>>150121820>>150121829Numenorians were strong enough to just walk into Mordor, beat up Sauron's armies and take him as their prison bitch when Sauron was at his strongest. Sauron had to rely on corrupting their society from the inside as prisoner of War because he was fully aware that Numenorians were too strong for him to ever beat in a fight
>>150121820>Second age>Long after the Valar had all promised to stay out of mortal affairsYeah they just asked Papa God to wipe them all out, like sweeping away ants who got on the porch.
>>150121835You are brown.
>>150121842>Sauron was at his strongestWasn't he just fucking with East and South and roleplaying as god-king?
>>150121846Sucks to learn that LotR is a weak fodder verse, eh? It’s okay, little guy.
I love farming (You). I am the best
>>150121842Sauron jobbed to a random dog and lost to three normal guys while wearing the One Ring. Beating JOBron isn’t worth bragging about.
>>150121864..." said KEKtos amidst his tears after getting GAPED by the Balrog.
>>150121812>>150121759>fight Morgoth wonElf cope...
>>150121872You mean the super magic dog that was literally fated to beat him? That magic dog?
>>150121872Sauron in the books was already nerfed version of what he used to be because drowning together Numenor weakened him and made him unable to use his full toolkit
Notice how NOBODY has debunked Outer Gandalf
>>150121879What, was Fingolfin supposed to be like>Nah, he's outerversal, I've seen his feats. I'm not fighting that? The fact that he put up a fight at all and wasn't just flattened by Grond immediately is already impressive.
>>150121819J.R.R. Tolkien?!
>>150121899>Notice how NOBODY has (DONE THE IMPOSSIBLE)
>>150121884Huan was literally a normal ass dog that was just really big. The only thing “magical” about him was that he could speak three times.
Lord of the Rings wank is making me realize that superheroes being as strong as they need to be is basically the same thing as prophecy making people and such as strong as they need to be.So by this metric, prophetic victories and losses should be discarded where possible since the setting will literally bend over backwards to fulfill them.
>>150121884Yes, that dog. You can't just lose to a dog named fucking HUAN, doesn't matter how magical this Huan Rodriguez is. It's like losing to a cat named Pablo or a horse named Pajeet.
>>150121924Still FATED to win
>>150121926>Lord of the Rings wank is making me realize that [deranged babble]Mind? Broken.
>>150121924https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/CarcharothHe took on and killed the greatest werewolf who ever lived, who devoured a silmaril and got a massive powerup, went on an unstoppable rampage across the country. Huan was a divine dog given as a gift by one of the Valar.
>>150121942So you're saying it is wank then?
>>150121884>the dog that GAPED me? It was totally A MULTIVERSAL DIVINE BEAST that only beat me because of FATE!BITCHron....
>>150121940Fated Stayed/Nighted
>>150121926>Lord of the Rings proper scaling broke meOkay?
>>150121947Sauron and Makima would get along perfectly.
>>150121947>the dog that GAPED me? It was totally A MULTIVERSAL DIVINE BEAST that only beat me because of FATE!Yes and he gapes Superman too
>>150121959>he gapes SupermanWho doesn't?
Chainscaling is supremeWe love and worship chainscaling here
>NOOO I'M HYPERVERSAL YOU DUMB MUTT! GET YOUR PLANETARY LEVEL AT BEST TEETH OUT OF ME! AAARRRGH! MORGOTH HEEEEEELP!!!
>>150121980Outer beasts
>>150121944And how does this make him magical in any way? The only thing magical about him was that he could talk. You have no proof of anything different. Also:>The Silmarils did not have any inherent power, save containing the light of the Trees, and neither were they able to give any sort of power to their owner. https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/SilmarilsBRVTAL trvth nvke.
>>150121980>GET YOUR PLANETARY LEVEL AT BEST TEETH OUT OF MEI chuckled, ngl
>>150121980>>150121985Cucktos...you lost to the Balrog.
>>150121985Except the book directly says he swelled up and become much larger and more terrible after eating the Silmaril, wiki reader. Certain evil creatures like Ungoliant seem able to feed off their light to become more powerful.
From boatscaling to dogscaling.
>>150121985>non-reader >posting secondary source Why is this such a common retard trait?
>>150121985>Heh, this valar dog just defeated Sauron and also Morgoth's most powerful monster...he's not magical at all, kid..You are SUCH a retard.
>>150121950Mythic Thor must be able to defeat Gandalf then. He can only die during Ragnarok from Jormungandr's venom. That's outside the context of a battle scenario, so Gandalf cannot interfere with Thor's fate.
>>150122011LotR fate>>>Marvel fate
>>150121930>It's like losing to a cat named PabloBatterbros...
>Sauron's DESTINED RIVAL is some dog that GAPES and RAPES himLmao
>>150121985Do NOT let me catch you in MY threads again!
>>150122000The book also said the Silmaril was melting his insides and driving him insane. Doesn’t sound like he was in peak condition to me.>>150122007Were those three normies that beat Sauron’s ass while he had the ring also “magical”? Quit coping and obtain some reading comprehension. Huan displayed zero magical qualities outside of talking.
>>150122011where does myth Thor scale? if he's below high outer+ he can't touch Gandalf and Gandalf will override his fate
>>150122031ANTI LOTR SISTERS WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
>>150122013I am talking about mythological Thor.
>>150122045Even weaker than Marvel Thor
>>150122031>special powers>said special powers are just a size boost and better staminaZAMN those are some shit magic buffs.
>>150122033>Then swiftly all his inwards were filled with a flame of anguish, and the Silmaril seared his accursed flesh. Howling he led before them, and the walls of the valley of the Gate echoes with the clamour of his torment. So terrible did he become in his madness that all the creatures of Morgoth that abode in that valley, or were upon any of the roads that led thither, fled far away' for he slew all living things that stood in his path, and burst from the North with ruin upon the world. Of all the terrors that came ever into Beleriand ere Angband's fall the madness of Carcharoth was the most dreadful; for the power of the Silmaril was hidden within him.
>>150122035Show Gandalf being able to override the prophecies of people outside of the LOTR setting.
>>150122054Imagine being such a cuck this is the best cope you can muster up after jobbing repeatedly Couldn't be a GANDALFSCHOLAR.
Tolkien? More like FRAUDkien
>>150122031>Can only be killed by werewolfFUARK, Huan is STRONGER than Simon, Superman, The Hulk and Kratos combined...
>>150122054>S-SO HE WAS JUST AN IMMORTAL VALAR DOG, SO WHAT? THAT'S NOT MAGICAL!!You don't have to like it, but...
>>150122057Show Gandalf being constrained by prophecies outside of the LotR setting first
God damn LOTR bros really cleaned house this thread, I think I'm gonna keep my head down for a while...
>>150122054>>150122062Samecuck spotted
>>150122056Lmao so he wasn’t given power by the Silmaril either. Thanks for debunking yourself.>>150122060Why can’t you name any of these “magic powers” he supposedly had? Why didn’t he ever use them? Is it because they don’t exist and all they did was make him bigger and tireless?
>>150122081When did I say he had magic powers he used at will?
>>150122069Show Thor's fate being alterable.
> . . . and no battle of wolf and hound has been like to it, for in the baying of Huan was heard the voice of the horns of Oromë and the wrath of the Valar, but in the howls of Carcharoth was the hate of Morgoth and malice crueller than teeth of steelBEASTS...
>>150122092Why can’t you name these magic powers? It’s a simple question.
>>150122097>>150122069
>>150122099I didn't say he had "magic powers", I said he's a MAGICAL DOG, which he is. Anything else is just your deranged cuck brain hallucinating.
>>150122098Holy FUARK...
>>150122100So you can't? I can't either.
>>150122118Then the neutral standpoint means FORCE overrides
>>150122105>magical dog>is just big and can only talk three timesSure, technically. Too bad the original claim made it sound like he was a big deal when in reality he wasn’t.
>>150122126Morgoth FEARED him...
>>150122126Imagine needing to ignore all his other special qualities because it BTFO your plan.
Updated list of FRAUDULENT verses>GoW>DBZ>Sonic>LotR
>>150122141>magical qualitiesYou keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Halsisters...Bensisters....we better not raise our voice in the presence of the GANDALF SCHOLARS...
>>150122145>LotR thinks it's on the team
>>150122154It means he's immortal, very strong, and tireless, qualities that originate from him being a dog of magical beings.
>>150122162Babbling cope incoming...
Gandalf wins again.
Artoria Pendragon vs Aragorn.
>>150122162>immortalFanfiction>tirelessArguable>very strongYou mean very big for a dog.
>>150122183He's very strong because he went up against magical beings.
team anti lotr really trying to debunk a dog because gandalf is too much
>...As the Valar would robe themselves like the Children, many of the Maiar robed themselves like other lesser living things, as trees, flowers, beasts. (Huan.) Tolkien's notes. Huan was a maiar like Gandalf and Sauron.
>>150122191Those magical beings were literally "trash mob in MMO" tier. "Trash mobs that get killed by random adventurers in the first episode" tier.
>>150122211Were there any lesser maiar who assumed the form of orcs or something?
>Calling first age Sauron and the strongest werewolf ever trash tierEither trolling or brain damaged, not sure which.
>>150122211Imagine being an angel and choosing to become a flower.
>FRAUD of the ringverse got exposed AGAINYup yup
>I am DEATH—AIIIIIEEEE IS THAT A NORMAL ARROW AIMED AT MY HEART?!?! NOOOOO PLEASE NOT THE OUTERVERSAL ARROW—ACK!Damn, Gandalf is weaker than THIS?!
>>150122231That arrow? FATED.
I KNEELI SQUEALMY DOWNPLAY ISN'T REAL
LMAO, JOBron got beat by a dog!H-how strong was the dog!? Uh, n-no need to ask that question haha just ignore it and move on....
SO WHAT IF HE'S AN IMMORTAL VALAR DOG WHO SOLO'D SAURON AND TOOK AN ENTIRE PROPHECY TO FINALLY LOSE, THAT'S NOT MAGIC! THAT'S NOT MAGIC AT ALL! NO GET THOSE MEDS AWAY FROM ME! RRRAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
>Gandalf is the Kingtos of /lit/Kek
>>150122220By MMO standards they are.
>*pant pant* Morgoth-sama! Lend me some power here, this is a dog that can talk I’m up against…!When will you accept that Sauron lost to a bigger version of Scooby-Doo?
>wins death battle
Scooby Doo is universe level minimum as per CHADth CHADttle's teachings so I don't see how that's supposed to be an insult.
>>150122279>Dog that talks>Hahah what's the worst that could happe->"Woof, Flash GAPES Sonic">AAQQQAHAHAA SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP YOU DUMB MUTT AAAAAAH STOP BITING ME FUFUFUFFUFUUUUUCK
>melty of the rings
I...I like dogs.
>>150122297>Frodo's plan and the final defeat of Sauron out of NOWHERE
>>150122212Not outside of your headcanon.
>>150122269...easily Beyond God tier and crush WoW with a single attack.
>MMO (Massive Melty Online)
>>150122305The latest WoW raid had an eldritch cosmic god that consumed universes and chucked black holes and planets at the players as the last boss.
>>150122311>crush WoWChampion of Azeroth would beat them during a daring assault that is put at the last moment by the unlikely cooperation of the Horde and the Alliance, spearheaded by [recurring character from previous to last expansion], [recurring character from previous to last expansion], [new character created for this expansion] and [recurring character who is supposedly very strong but is conveniently depowered somehow].
>>150122339Is "the latest WoW raid" first episode, anon? Not that it's anything next to Gandalf, still.
>>150122339Who? Sylvanas? Turalion?
>>150122339But are they Outerversal? No? Discussion OVER.
>>150122346...and then the Cuck of Azeroth wakes up and realizes he lost to the Warrior of Mid from Flopped Fantasy XIV.
>>150122357Post Gandalf destroying a planet.NOW.
>>150122373Planets mean NOTHING to him. Reality is NOTHING to him. Holy FUARK!https://imgur.com/a/primary-secondary-reality-VdYgJZv
>>150122361I mean, yes, but that doesn't help LotR any.
>>150122268no because gandalf is actually strong
>>150122380Composite WoW loses to a Balrog farting, LotR needs no help.
Post Gandalf destroying a mountain.
>>150122377>word soup mumbo jumboPost FEATS, nigga! Or else show me your butthole!
Post Gandalf winning against a dog.
>>150122394He posted a feat thoughever neutralizing your homosexual fantasies
>>150122377So he's actually, not even shitposting, Outerversal? God damn...
>>150122403No he didn’t. All he posted was the Valar being sent to earth, which doesn’t mean shit for GanDORK.
>>150122404Yes.
>>150122413There were feats there though
>>150122424>words from Tolkien are now featsAnd I thought Kratos was the fraud king of statements…
>>150122438>AIIIIEEEE ESE WHERE ARE THE PICTURES I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THISLeast illiterate anti lotr.
>>150122453I man you can shitpost all you want but there are literally zero feats in those texts.
>According to Tolkien, half-breed mutts like Elrond and his brother just get to decide which race of their parents they take afterWhat did Tolkien mean by this?
>>150122481>ESL
>>150122490I wish I could have done that... o_o
Enough babbling about FRAUD of the ONION Rings, bake the new bread.
PO TAY TOES
>>150122558..." is what Cuckulk mumbled after losing to a Balrog.
>>150122629…is what GAYdalf scribbled into his diary after Brazilian Hulk paid his ass a visit.
>>150122641..." in Hulk's deranged dying dreams after a single Balrog eviscerated him and all his friends.
Last for KINGtos.
A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to!
