okay Dana Terrance we get it you had a terrible time working for Disney oh my God get over it.
>>150122581Okay anon we get it, she broke your brain oh my god get over it
>>150122652>Criticizing a product being bad means mind brokenVery insecure response
out of the trailer music this really looks like shit.
>>150122581She's being dramatic & wasting GLITCH's time/money over her misplaced seethe at Disney when it's her own shitty decisions that made them cancel her show. They approved Amphibia & Proud Family having openly gay shit so it wasn't like they're homophobic. Owl House simply couldn't meet viewership numbers & lost interest quickly.
Mutt lost
>>150122581I'm just more annoyed it's mediocre. It looks like the usual tumblr slop, it'll get the usual audience though.
Sex with Dana
>>150122772The Owl House still has the best DTVA premiere ratings since the first two seasons of Big City Greens
>>150122811Stfu taco
>>150122805>indie studio with an 3 shows that people are already following>release trailer for new show>it gets viewsGee anon I dunno but I get the feeling it's not from genuine interest in Dana's overdramatic coping project.>>150122824Premiere ratings don't mean anything if the numbers don't stay consistent & can't keep up with Amphibia running alongside it.
>>150122824>premierewhen people thought it was gonna be an adventure show in a creepy world, and not Harry Potter for double fags.
>>150122708>>Criticizing a product(that has not released yet) being bad means mind brokenY'all really want this to be bad, huh
>>150122927It's bad because it comes from a place of spite with Dana blaming Disney for her own failures.
>>150122818Agree
>>150122996>Alex Hirsch dumped this for a Wendy cosplayer and dumped her so hard she turned into a lesbo
>>150122847>Premiere ratings don't mean anything if the numbers don't stay consistent & can't keep up with Amphibia running alongside it.>>150122890>premiere>when people thought it was gonna be an adventure show in a creepy world, and not Harry Potter for double fags.No I meant each episode's TV premiere ratings are the best Disney Channel had in the last 5-6 years, and average viewership per episode probably surpassed BCG by now since BCG is still running, the series finale had better TV ratings than the season finales of those years most recent South Park and Rick and Morty season finales
>>150123035Just like Jackie from Star vs the forces of evil
>>150122581Working at Disney, when compared to the other big 3 kids cable networks, hands down sounds like the worst to work at, the big Mouse conditions people to obey him, turning the showrunners into drooling retards.Matt Braly and Alex Hirsch both do shit attempts at standing against Disney, since Mickey forced them to suck his cock so often every attempt at standing against him becomes all garbled up, like Braly’s recent Gen Z males tweet. The Disney adult mindset has been engraved into Disney TVA showrunners heads, Dana’s cartoon will probably suck ass and loreshit lovers will eat this shit up.
>>150123041and yet by the metric of people giving a shit right now, TOH practically didn't exist at all, when those shows you hate to much gets regular threads and new art on the daily basis...
>>150123041Notice how Amphibia isn't on the list here. You keep bringing up Big City Greens like it's a victory. BCG is a comedy that's much cheaper to produce since they outright say it's outsource too.
>>150122996Would mating press
>>150122581Dana is a piece of shit human being and a talentless faggot. Expect nothing good out this retard.
>>150122581A thing that annoys me about all these >DISNEY BUT EVILtype of stories is that they always portray Disney as a one trick pony. A massive, hyper successful company that has a single character which they put in everything and who made gorillions of dollars off movies that are parodies of real life stuff, but with their not-Disney mascot character in all the starring roles. So this is Disney, and Disney is a megacorp that took over a whole city or world with a singular character, a princess, who was just their only product, and that somehow led to robots and super science and all kinda of other dystopian stuff. That's fucking stupid.
>>150123103>and yet by the metric of people giving a shit right now, TOH practically didn't exist at all, when those shows you hate to much gets regular threads and new art on the daily basisWhat the fuck is this word soup supposed to mean>>150123108That's because Amphibia ended more than a year earlier, it had worse average and per-episode ratings than both TOH and BCG
Im gay for Dana
>>150123352Not from what I heard.
>>150123427Feel free to check the numbers on wikipedia
>>150123430Only the first season surpassed Amphibia's first season in viewership. It dipped by the second.
>>150123482Nope
>>150122652She’s not gonna have sex with you
>>150123500I'm literally looking at the numbers. It only went up in the finale.
>>150123532As full series TOH averaged 388k viewers per episode, Amphibia averaged 367k per episode, any perceived decline can be chalked up to Amphibia's S2 airing a year before TOH's S2 at a time when TV viewership dropped drastically every year, but it still wasn't enough to budge the total averages
>>150122581Are the other versions of her meant to be separate characters or like when Mickey takes on different roles in various cartoons?
>>150122581Dumb bitch worked at a company known for screwing people over and act shocked when they screwed her over. Fuck her.
>>150122948Oh, you're a Disney shill. Got it.
>>150122581What are your guys hopes and fears for the show. I'll start my hope is actually going to tell a story without lesbians and my fears is that going bashing on Disney in a way that won't get Dana into trouble.
Jesus fucking Christ, what the fuck is up with people here? Is Dana satan or something? Did she run over your cat?Fucking pathetic.
>>150123663I hope it's quickly cancelled so people don't have time to create artificial permagenerals full of pedoshit
the no life schizos make discussing so many topics on this board impossible holy fucking shit man.
>>150123727dont feed the bots
>>150122818>>150122996>>150123133get better taste /co/, holy shit, shes your typical cali liberal lesbian
>>150122772You can make an argument for the Proud Family but Amphibia only has last minute representation and other shows have been edited to leave the gay stuff out
>>150123660No I'm sick of them too. But just because I hate what Disney became doesn't mean I agree with Dana who was part of the problem.
>>150123833It's got RuPaul playing a secret agent.
>>150123810better than your typical texas conservative faggot
>>150123810Are you literally policing attraction to “lesbians”One of the biggest lmaos ever
>>150122805He really didn’t anon, he’s got a job with Sony has two successful books made an official sonic comic and is releasing a graphic novel. How did he lose in any metric?
>>150123894Nah Tex Mex is delicious.
>>150123851... that does nothing gay on screen and can be assumed to be straight or ace
>>150124016>or ace Fuck off with that. The fact it's a gay drag queen playing himself but a glowie is bad enough.
>>150123660Disney and Dana's show are the same and she does not even realize it
>>150123528She’s also not the monster under your bed. Stop being such a pussy
>>150123763>glitch>quickly cancelledThe show will either be made in its entirety or not at all. The trailer has gotten 2.1m views in under 24 hours. The pilot is going to do well and then the whole season (which will be the whole show) will be made.You’re just going to have to keep seething.
>>150124058>noooo you can't not have an interest in sex you have to fap fap fap like a good goy
>>150124191Sounds like Dana is winning pretty hard schizo-kun. Keep seething.
>>150124257An identity around it is not only ridiculous but it's biologically an abnormality to have zero interest in sex. That's a brain disorder otherwise.
>>150124191>>150123765>>150123475>>150123095>>150123039Can we report this faggot
>winning is endlessly working on the same show instead of moving on to new projectsThe mental gymnastics on this schizo don't even deserve a (You)
The reaction to this has gotta be a disney psy op.
>>150122581I don't really know what to expect; honestly, I just hope it isn't annoying somehow. Glitch has been on a roll though, so maybe there's not much reason to worry.I'm mostly just glad to see more 2D animated projects coming to life. Something that isn't like Fixed, anyway.
>>150124455no one normal sucks didney cock like frogfag bots
>>150124455Dana is part of why I hate Disney now. Pushing woke agenda into their shows marketed to children.
>>150124313C’mon don’t lump me in with the poltard
>>150124313
>>150124576If you don't want to be grouped with the schizos don't act like one of them>>150124570Kek, he's still falling for the true psyop
I will watch for Pacificamity
>>150122581>>150122772>ugh how dare you use your experiences to make your art withWhat the fuck are you even saying?
>>150122581Amphibia and Matt Braly really won in the end
Damn, the southeast asian schizo still at it after getting humiliated by the people in the previous thread I see
>>150124576You post the same shit in every thread
>>150124349She got her first show with one of the biggest animation entities in the world while in her 20s. She decided maybe mainstream wasn’t the direction she wanted, and has since pivoted and got her second show with one of the biggest names in indie animation in her 30s. Her second show beats out any follow ups from most of her freshman contemporaries.Keep seething.
What the fuck is with frog show schizos freaking out about Owl House still like 3 years later?
>>150124491You’ve been seething this long and the best you’ve been able to come up with is “Shitrace” and “Turdrace”? I’m guessing creativity isn’t your forte.
>>150124752>frog show schizosSchizo*, singular. And he doesn't even care for Amphibia. He just uses it as a standing point to shit on the owl house and hide his personal seething.Just report and move on.
Personally I think Amphibia and Owl House both suck righteous cock
>>150124786No one cares about your opinion desu.
>>150124769At this point I'm willing to believe it is legitimate derangement. Like he can't spell "Dana Terrace" as it is so he compulsively mixes it with scat terms and lgbt slurs so that her real name doesn't cause him more trauma than it already has.
>>150124752Arrested development plus hyper fixation. Every day is like an angry Groundhog Day for this severely autistic fuck.
>>150124798Schizophrenic seems more appropriate, even autists are more functional than this.
>>150124792Cared enough to reply
>>150124884You are bald
>>150123966>two successful booksAbout that...
>>150123528Why do anons always retort with this dumb reasoning, as if they are gods that believe everything that flaps out of their mouths is objective law.
>>150124754> another dabbing picokay autismo
>>150124313Not REport; DEport him back to Mexico.
>>150122581Do we need more tumblr cartoons about quirky lesbians?? Why does this shit exist in 2025?
>>150124884Hey, he said "Terrace" that time! It can learn!
>>150125525It's because they were raped as children, and their coping mechanism is to desperately try to link everything to sex.
>>150124786> capeshit image
>>150125525because they denigrate women with sex. If any woman has become successful at something, retards believe they must have slept their way there. And if anyone has anything positive to say about a woman, retards believe it's because they want to have sex with her.Whenever anyone pulls this trick out of their back pocket, it's usually because they have nothing else to say.
>>150125609Who said anything about lesbians?
>>150125679They don't actually believe it. They just say it because they're too stupid to come up with a sound argument.
Didn't Dana harass fox news?
>>150125679It’s because there either have mommy issues or Incels
>>150125628>Sonic gif
>>150125590*the Philippines
>>150125729Well no one likes fox news
>>150125679They are literal replies in this thread with anons lusting over Dana
>>150125754nta. But why she's below average.
This character will be one of two thingsScenario A: Spoiled Brat hate sink. Will be very popular on /co/ for the exact reasons you'd thinkScenario B (since its Dana) Spoiled Brat hate sink who learns that her personality makes people sad so she learns to live with people less fortunate then her (See Pacifica, Amity, Andrea etc)God I want it to be scenario A. Its been a long time since we've had a character who is just a biproduct of being given whatever she wants from the moment she was brought into this world and the only time we get this is when the writers have to be "actually she has deep nuance that no one cares about."
Dana looks like my old social studies teacher I bullied into quitting
>>150125769Introduced as Walt's spoiled brat daughter that tortures androids just because. Later revealed as android herself.
WAAAAAAAHHH A COMPANY SPENT MILLIONS TO PRODUCE A TV SHOW FOR ME (SOMETHING WHICH I NEVER COULD ACCOMPLISH BY MYSELF) BUT I AM OPRESSED BY THE CORPORATIONS!!!!!!!!! FEEL BAD FOR ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET 100% CONTROL OVER THE ENTIRE STAFF AND COMPANY!!! EVEN THOUGH I'M AN EXTREMELY PRIVELEGED PERSON THAT ANYONE IN THE INDSTRY WOULD DIE TO BE IN THE POSITION OF, IT'S STILL NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!! WAAAAAAAHHHHH YOU'RE A BOOTLICKER!!!!
>>150123095Nickelodeon is far worse.
>>150125848I will never say anything bad about Dana ever and champion her writing in spite of /co/ if this is pretty much all Dana has down for this character from the beginning to the ending of the series. Literally the only reason im watching and I am 100% certain is a huge reason /co/ is watching. This is Glitch were talking about here. Goose has been to /co/. Goose has seen the /co/ threads of her shows she knows damn well the clitel watching her shows.
Good morning Miss Terrace~I see you after classAH AH AH AH
>>150125754what is your point?
This is Santa ClausHe knows when you're sleepingHe knows when you're awakeBut does he know any sizable amount of children who actually liked The Owl House?
>>150125926The point is the “you’re just horny over her” retort has some basis in reality.
>>150125990Wanting to fuck a person doesn't mean you automatically agree or disagree with every action they do.
>>150126035I think it has something to do with all the anons that disagree with her politically but also feel attracted to her. It confounds them so much that they react in anger as you've seen already.
>>150126035Obviously, but that’s a different point from what was being argued originally. OP acted as if the idea of anons running cover for Dana due to their own attraction to her was presuming too much. >>150126089Speaking of presuming too much
>>1501259901) I've been accused of that and I have zero interest in fucking Dana2) it's still not an argument. It's the "I know you are but what am I" cop out that signals you've lost.
>>150122581I mean, that's how we got Shrek. Not that this will necessarily match Shrek in quality, but spiteful parody is not necessarily a bad start.
>>150126121I don’t disagree, but that’s specific reply was replying to an equally bad “She mindbroke you lol”. You get what you give
>>150126115>the idea of anons running cover for Dana due to their own attraction to her was presuming too muchIt is presuming too much as there's no evidence. You know some people find Dana attractive, and some people disagree with people trashing her. There isn't necessarily a connection. A lot of anons who hate her work want to fuck her and a lot of anons who defend her work have no sexual interest in her. It sets up an false dichotomy. "If you don't automatically agree with the people trashing on an artist's work it's only because you want to fuck them". That is presuming too much.
>>150125848>mesugaki who hates robots turns out to be a robot who hates herself most of allBased and Boku no Tsuma pilled.
>>150126158Shrek and its consequences has been a disaster for Western animation.
>>150122581>A woman getting over perceived slights against herMight as well ask for world peace while you're at it.
>>150126115>Speaking of presuming too muchHit a nerve
so does resetera spam this board too?
>We begin our story in a beautiful themepark>SIKE! EBERYTHING GOOD IS BAD! WE ARE ALL SUBBERING TERRIBLY! THE MOUSE IS BAD! THE MOUSE IS BAD! CUTE THINGS DOING BAD THINGS! EBERYTHING SUCKS!!1!Can we have a show about the main characters working in an extermination camp, but instead of them gleefully shoving yids into comically large industrial shredders, they're shove yids into comically large industrial shredders while looking at their phones, scrolling through the goyslop that is social media, and bitching to one another about how bad everything is? That could really connect to the gen z and gen alpha audiences.
If people cared about this place they'd write a book about /co/'s one-sided war with Dana. I know why she pisses this place off but at the same time, I don't get it.
I literally can care less. When is Totally spies season 8?
>>150126303Most people on /co/ don't even care about Dana, they just think her output is shit, if they even connect them as being made by the same person.
Kind of disappointed it was exactly what people were predicting. Maybe it can still have surprises in the end.
>>150126360No people here absolutely give a shit about Dana. Like technically this show is run by two other people who also have experience working with Disney but people here are choosing to focus on Dana's.
>>150126382The twist is it will be about capitalism in addition to Disney.
>>150126423Some people do, most don't. That's the difference. Most of /co/ don't give a shit, just like most of /co/ doesn't white knight for her either, even though ether absolutely are anons who do.Most anons don't give a shit about her one way or another.
>>150126303She sounds like she's been here before and natives feel displeasure at betraying the tribe.
>>150126215>Making up shit about Dana’s defenders bad >Making up shit about Dana’s detractors good How is what you’re doing any different from the people you’re criticizing?
>>150122581Has anyone noticed how she looks like a Pokemon character? I’ve gotten that vibe from her.
>>150126455It's almost amazing how general spaces can be cut off from the rest of the board.
>>150122772Amphibia had no gay shit you lying shill nigger. Kill yourself.But it was her own fault her show got canceled. It wasn't any good.
>Dana dedicated an entire series seething over her experiences with Disney>meanwhile Disney announces a movie which is basically Owl House with a male characterIt's kind of funny.
>>150125729>muh poor mass mediawho cares you faggotkys
>>150126497That I don't seethe about Dana
>>150126303> they'd write a book about /co/'s one-sided war with DanaWhy? It's really boring and stupid. Even if people cared, it wouldn't be a good read.
>>150126563It is funny.Dana won and nothing frogfags can do about it.
>>150126563It's all once again 4D chess. They're trying to make Dana's satanic slop look good so they have an excuse to make more satanic low effort shit themselves. You know Hexed will have no hook and no one will see it and then they'll hire Dana back as an executive and from then on they'll only make gayslop.
>>150126423>technically this show is run by two other people who also have experience working with DisneyI'm pretty sure those other two people who have experience working with Disney specifically have experience working on The Owl House.
>>150126617>>150126622Is tribefag attempting to play both sides?
>>150126695Doubt it, I bet saying anything good about owl/bad about frogs would be like cyanide for him
>>150123810Let them learn the hard way.Its not like every influential guy who has fallen for this kind of woman hasn't had their lives irreversibly ruined or anything.
The threads for this show has been nothing but fighting about Dana talk about sexless faggots.We need Guin art to fix it
>>150125769I hope she is very bratty and manipulative.
>>150126732Don't forget destructive and and unpleasable.
>>150122581So what the fuck is this show going to be about? From the looks of the trailer, its got a lot of mascot horror vibes going on like FNAF, which I didn't think Dana was into but I'm not really opposed to it.
>>150126742oh god....not now boner...
>>150126764From the looks of things the blonde loli is a bratty brat brat who constantly wants things but not because she actually wants them she just likes the feeling of receiving something and it's because of that toxic personality that the loli torments the robots not because they're capable of human emotion or even because she's cares since she's completely dehumanized then and treats them like garbage because her personality makes it so it's impossible to relate to something that she treats like property for the sole purpose of breaking. The robots will come to the conclusion that all humans are as nasty as this one and begin to become sentient
>>150126722Every reply talking about the trailer gets ignored in favor of responding to ragebait about Dana, you have no one to blame but yourselves
Voice cast for you
>>150125769Scenario C (since it's Dana): As A, but impossible for /co/ to enjoy because Dana clearly based her on a girl she knew growing up who she still has a grudge against
>>150126813....So its Secret of the Mimic, but William Afton is a bratty psychotic loli....?
>>150126820Am I correct "Kayleigh" is a troon?And how many they/thems are among the rest of the crew?
>>150126825Please like that would stop anyone on this board. Dana has many self inserts not just the 1
>>150126859>Am I correct "Kayleigh" is a troon?Yeah, she/he voiced Scarab from F&C so I think it will be alright
>>150122581"Get over it and never bring it up again" is indeed an option."Use it as artistic inspiration" is also one.I think this looks neat.
>>150126872>"Use it as artistic inspiration" is also one.That mindset is why the She-Hulk show turned out the way it did.
>>150126820Ah damn the loli is not gonna be a loli n present times
Don't you people ever get tired of making threads about shows/books/creators you hate?When I make a thread it's because I want to talk to other fans of something I like.
>>150126864>she/heHe.Also,>Orville voiced by Asian VA>young Olivia voiced by Asian VA>Parks are presumably Korean>old Olivia voiced by white xirWEE WOO WEE WOO YELLOWFACE VOICE CASTING WEE WOO WEE WOO
Okay I got my ideas down for my show that I’m gonna pitch to Glitch.>removing the tone from the OG, while still keeping the dirty side of football. (EX. The running gag is that the coach announces a drug test and the roided player has a backpack of Clean pee stocked up.)>Were still keeping the anthro characters for this because it’s really based on how sports mascots always had animals as there mascot.>the wolf is a cocky up and coming Star QB that wants to be the best and even surpassing “The Goat”.
>>150126900Either the storyline in regards to this will be her becoming cold and jaded but in her own cynical way sympathetic towards the cruelty she placed upon the robots so she can be redeemed before death or she's actually the main villain who wants to be the princess I don't care either way so long as you g Olivia acts like a spoiled brat
>>150126820People were right about Olivia aging, then. That probably means the multiple Gwen models thing is true.
>>150126895It's also why Lord of the Rings turned out the way it did. Tolkein went from fighting in The Great War to writing a literary epic about a war. Couldn't he just "get over it"?
>>150126948Tolkien wasn't writing an airing of grievances.
>>150126864>Scarab from F&COh cool, I enjoyed his work.
>>150126948Tolkien based his battles on tales of old medieval wars.The closet you'll get to him basing his work on the war, is that he likened Sam to a few people he met while in the army.
>>150126820>people in the comments asking where Michael Kovack isoh my god shut up
Am I the only one who thinks the cast looks utterly uninteresting outside of Gwen and perhaps the evil loli?
>>150127059No, I'm with you.
>>150127015The comment section in the video is complete aids but that's just how yt is nowadays.
Her relationship with Disney reminds me of the "I despise you" "I don't think of you at all" meme
>>150122581Uhh…Dreamworks did it?
>>150127268>>150126185
>>150124664What someone should have told you when you were young, Dana. Your life is stupid and uninteresting, and you're an underdeveloped narcissist.
>>150126948>>150126963>>150127000LotR is literally an anti-war fantasy series. How regular home buddies who just want to farm, eat, and sleep are being gang pressed into a conflict they have no part nor business being in.
>>150127268She actually liked the HTTYD remake.
>>150124576>SMLGtfo
>>150127377This is exactly like Dana. She's basically going for a Tolkien vibe.
>>150127059I can just tell that one character is a they/them. It has that look.
>>150126945>That probably means the multiple Gwen models thing is true.Yeah that's practically been a given this week
>>150126963>the struggle of war>dealing with ptsd right afterHe most certainly was
>>150126185>>150127285Shrek was good. The only way to not have good things imitated badly is to not have good things at all. If things are going to be shit either way, I'd rather have a handful of good things to look back on than nothing but shit backwards and forwards.
>>150122581Guys I'm scared. I might just be overreacting but what if they put gay in it?!
>>150127484Animation is a dead art form in the West because of people like (You).
>no boys for the fujo audiencefated to be forgotten just like TOH
>>150127377>Not being having your heinie shined by a corporation infamous for neglecting their artists is exactly the same as fighting in WW2
>>150127576I don't think you know what you're talking about, but are being vague enough to pretend you do.
>>150122581Something's telling me this show will be extremely spiteful. Like it feels like this show will have many scenes of all of the Robo-Gwens getting casually disemboweled, & et cetera, simply because she/they just so happens to be (not)Disney's mascot, not that they cause some sort of Terminator-style war or created a (not)Disney® Matrix™
>>150128349That would mean that Olivia is 100% going to be the next version of Odalia and im happy with that. I always wanted a spoiled loli who becomes a bitter hag as an antagonist.
>>150127752>forgotten just like TOHWith this and the Hexed thread I'm pretty sure TOH won't fade away any time soon
>>150122824Lol wutI'm pretty sure Star vs. has it beat. And of course Gravity Falls.
>>150122652REEEEEEE. This board is my safe space where I can judge others but not be judged myself because I hate being judged!
>>150128556Who are you talking to?
>>150128556Take meds
I’m never watching Amphibia OR The Owl House out of fucking spite for you fuckers.
>>150128632That’s fine man you do you.
>>150126945>agingI don't think thats the case, they might be clones. Just at different stages of life.
>>150128632oh no
I remember when Dana was terminally online during the peak discourse of the direction that Dana wanted to take Owl House since according to her she originally wanted 6 seasons and Disney was like "lol. Lmao even are you out of your mind?"So when she compromised with 3 and then Disney said "actually on second thought we're thinking 2 is a bit more generous" this was around the time where not just Dana but a lot of people on her crew were talking about how they hate making subject material for children which hilariously enough this seems to be a common problem with all the ex-gravity falls people who go and make their own shows who're more aware of the actual demographics who watch their shows but seem oblivious or spiteful that the whole point as to why they have jobs at all was because the demographics they bring in arent meeting the bottom line for what Disney wants which is why people like Iger hate DTVA because its a money sink. It doesnt make nearly the degree of money something like Playhouse makes and if you're a business suit sitting in a corporate office looking at arrows go up and down your leading breadwinner in the animation department is 5 and belowSo when you have people like Matt, Dana and Alex saying "theyre too good for this we demand to make real serious grown up shows for grown ups that are just as popular as anime" this is how you end up in scenarios like thisIm bringing this up because if Olivia is suppose to be the main antagonist of this show then Dana made her because shes the living embodiment of what she hates about the animation industry right now. She wants animation to appeal to everyone when it only appeals to children or how its currently only suppose to appeal to childrenSo what better antagonist for a show thats sole purpose is to mock her hatred for Disney to be a spoiled child who becomes a soulless corporate exec just like she originally wrote Odalia.
>>150122581U don't have trust for this project if she's in the writing team. Owl House's biggsst problem was how much the show struggled with structure and pacing and even its own identity
>>150122581It looks cooler than any piece of American animation released in the last 10 years. Possibly the entire 21st century.
>>150128733Lol lmao even
>>150122581it is fascinating how hard people here turned into the disney defense force
>>150127472Dana is just like Tolkien. I don't get why people aren't hype for this.
>>150123600Lmao but TOH aired in the middle of the lockdowns when the lefties, the show's target audience, were locked at home and forced to watch TV.
>>150128813You can hate both.
>>150128632That was always allowed
>>150128728That was mostly S1. S2 and 3 had a more solid course.
>>150128544Those were way before >>150128860So did Amphibia and BCG and lots of other shows
>>150128872>you can hate disney and also get angry when people badmouth itKind of a dissonant lesson
>>150128813>>150128872>>150128907>/co/ is one person and shares the same tastes
>>150124749Her first show was DuckTales though. Shows what you know.
>>150124786They're both about as bad. But I'd say the owl house is worse, due to having an identical ending as amphibia and coming out later.
>>150125679Lmao anon. Don't you know how Dana made it where she is now? She literally cockladdered herself there.
>>150128907>and also get angry when people badmouth itBut this board loves Shrek though?
>>150125776Doing god's work anon
>>150125769>>150122581>>150122805>>150126760Is this an Usan anime?
>>150125862She literally spent most of the production whining on Twitter instead of doing her job. Which is why we have so many inconsistencies between each TOH episode. There was no director overlooking the project. And on top of all of that, she was so toxic that they banned her from production meetings. Literal cancer lol. AND THIS IS HER VERSION OF THE STORY! The truth could easily be even worse, because nobody presents themselves as bad.
>>150129083Oh great. An animated "Mommie Dearest" series.
>>150125862>>150129083/co/ stands for /co/mplainers nowadays
>>150126721A-Anon, I get that the ratio is devastating, but there has to be at least one guy that got a happy ending... right?
>>150127059Everything looks uninteresting except the art but the art is worth a watch
>>150129083Have you read the multiple pitch bibles Dana originally had for Owl House. Each new pitch bible sounded more and more aggressively unrealistic because instead of doing the smart thing and promoting a show to a streaming service which gives her the freedom to basically do whatever she wants she promoted it to a cable conglomerate who told her "no. We have graphs and expectations we have to meet I dont care how bold your vision is if we cant smack it on cereal boxes and sell it to 5 years olds with crippling addictions to corn syrup."Dana wanted this shit to be 6 seasons long and be marketed as an 18 plus show so what does she do? She originally promoted it to Christina Miller of CN whose only reference of animation is fucking Nick jr because her favorite show was Paw Patrol. Then she promoted that shit to Disney who told her the same thing and they also want to buy Paw Patrol.
>>150128718>She wants animation to appeal to everybody>Makes a mutilation showOh yeah, really aiming for the largest target audience there. It shows, anon. It shows.
>>150128846Tolkien was a great to read. Dana couldn't make 10 minutes without turning it cringe. So no, lol. Dana isn't like Tolkien.
>>150129247I have not read the pitch bibles. I saw the original pilot, and the original trailer, and I gave it a very brief glance to one of the pitch bibles. I'd give them a look if you linked them though.
>>150129384Alright so "pitch bible A" pretty much reads exactly like a script you'd read from someone like Viv because it was yet another show set around hell being the main setpiece or going to hell was the long term plot of the show. There was no boiling isles in this draft. Luz discovered a literal hell portal and was going to go down her own version of Dante's inferno. This was the draft she pitched to CN and they said "Lol. Fuck no get the fuck out of here with this shit."When Dana pitched "draft A" to Disney they gave her the same response so she came up with Draft B. Draft B only had Luz, Eda, King, and Amity as the main characters and all references to going to hell were "reworked" into a fantastical area that wasnt suppose to still technically be the Boiling Isles it was this weird middle of the road set piece that was basically Hell and the Boiling IslesThis was also rejected and thus we ended up with the final draft instead where the Boiling Isles is just "Hogwarts land (tm)"
>>150126859>Hired to voice Testament>Gives Testament the deepest masculine voice Testament ever had
>>150129312Shes not the only one who believes this. Literally all the Ex-Gravity Falls people believe this especially Matt. On a deep subconscious level he knows the reason why people like anime is because shounen plots are for literal retards and brown people. Shounen plots have terrible writing that get worse overtime but literally no one cares about that. They appeal to people who have a primal need for violence and Japanese understanding this quite well makes this a billion dollar industryIn order to make content that doesnt feel like it directly takes inspiration from its competitor (which it absolutely does sometimes shamelessly) they have to do the opposite just out of spite. All shounen shows have male main leads well they need to make a western cartoon where females are the main leadI call it the sailor moon effect where boys wanna watch this to jerk off but its also the /co/ effect where anime provides you with countless jerk off material it all depends on your flavor.
>>150122581So Shrek is now bad?
>>150129126Always did
>>150129083>>150129247The only reason she pitched it to kids networks is because she wanted gays in a kids show, that's it
>>150129510Cynicism is bad yes
>>150129663Yeah, you wanna know who is actually all for that shit is streaming services. You know how much gay shit you see on pretty much every service especially now? Looking back on it im actually shocked that Harriet the Spy wasnt a massive yuri baiting show because they picked the perfect company to make that adaptation because anyone else would have had Harriet constantly lusting for snatch all show.
>>150129716But she wanted it specifically because it would be exposed to the most children possible compared to being shoved in some corner of a streaming service
>>150129663>Dana wanted it to be 6 seasons long >be marketed as an 18+ show>wanted gays in a kids' show>On Disney.I dunno, I'm still stuck on going to kids' networks and asking it to be an 18 plus show.
>>150129747Which is retarded because cable has been atrophying for literally years and now were especially in the streaming era now.
>>150129716>>150129747Harriet should have been gay as fuck. It's the 2020s.
>>150129767I'm just giving her own reasoning. I don't know about the 6 seasons thing or the plans for it to be 18+ but she wanted gays on a mainstream Disney Channel show, which is why she put up with them despite not even liking children's shows or musicals (aka Disney's bread and butter) instead of any other medium
>>150126185>>150127576small brain
>>150129767She originally wanted it on CN which has an 18+ show so she would have needed to pitch that to both Miller and Lazzo which would have been worse because Lazzo is the reason AS has sucked forever because hes a fucking Seth MacFarlene/Rick and Morty shill who thinks every show needs to be an instant success right from the beginning or it has no legs to stand on AND even better if its made as aggressively and shamelessly cheaply as possible
>>150129792>It's the 2020sDidn't you hear? Woke is dead
>>150129814NTA, but I always felt Dana was also aiming to be "the showrunner who changed/defeated Disney".But, in truth, she didn't have the amount of power she thought she was going to have.She won a battle (she got her gay MC), but ultimately lost the war.
>>150129792Not in the context of her adaptation which takes place in Mid 1960 which is funny because if they wanted to make that comparison they could but didnt because they settled for a straight adaptation for it which visually was nice but no one watched.
>>150122927We KNOW it's going to be bad
>>150122948>It's badIt’s not even out
>>150129505>i cAlL iT tHe sAiL-ACK!!!STFU retard, the fuck you would know SoB… BSSM chads watched it because it’s the best show ever made. Don’t involve us in your cartoon drama retard. You are an insecure fag reeking of microdick energy, never mention us again, bitch. Also, nice r*ddit spacing you tourist. Go the fuck back.>effect WHEREgo back to your tacos, ESL cuck
>>150129814Now you have people like Viv who act exactly like Dana but have the opposite problem where literally young children at 13 and younger are watching her show despite the warning label at the beginning of every ep telling them to kick sand this show isnt for you.
>>150129862Promise to use your gift of foresight only for good - earning people about natural disasters, stopping murders, etc.
>>150129767You have to remember she was Alex Hirsch around that time, and more or less, Alex vouched for her and that's how she got Disney greenlit her project.
>>150129927I mean that's how everyone gets a show these days, Braly got one the same way
>>150129842She should have cared more about actually creating a good cartoon instead of pushing weird gay agenda nonsense that doesn't appeal to anyone but weirdos.
>>150129870I mean how he is wrong? Basically all of modern cartoons are trying to rip off Sailor Moon and other magical girl series
>>150129814>>150129842Why exactly do you anons think Disney is against gays, especially in 2020? I'm pretty sure it was back then the gayest company in the world. The show wasn't cancelled for the gays, but because the creator was impossible to work with and nobody tuned in to watch the show.
>>150129870Go back to /a/
>>150129969>instead of pushing weird gay agenda nonsense that doesn't appeal to anyone but weirdosDana is part of the DeviantArt/Reddit generation of creators. They first show their projects there, usually creating a small but vocal fanbase who ultimately end up shaping the series because the creators can’t help but cater to their wishes for it, rather than what they (the creator) or the general public would want.
>>150130033Even Dana said Disney was fine with the gay stuff outside of one guy who quickly apologized.
>>150130033>Why exactly do you anons think Disney is against gays, especially in 2020?Money
>>150130033The weren't against gays in 2020 but post-Lightyear they're definitely learning to roll it back a little especially after the backlash of trying to premiere an uncensored Lightyear in Middle Eastern countries due to pressure from their own, more progressive workers
>>150130124>Chinese Money*fifm
>>150130055Yes, after you hacks stop bringing us up every single day because you seemingly can’t discuss your children cartoons without referencing ANIME>>150130020STFU you know nothing about the medium
>>150130033>nobody tuned in to watch the showAnd I wonder what was the reason for that.
>>150130098Then I'm at a loss about what Dana meant by "defeating Disney" with TOH.It wasn't the gay since Disney is gay to begin with. And please anon don't tell me Disney is ruled by conservatives and consequently the "hell and witches" part annoys them.
>>150130096>That wasn't her real cartoon, THIS is her real cartoon!
>>150122948Yet others (men) did it before and no seething came from that.
>>150122581>ever siding with Disney under any circumstancesGet out.
>>150130144This.
>>150130410Is it not possible to hate both?
>>150130410This place has always sucked Disney's dick. Look at Mr. /co/ 2019.
>>150130403People give Alex Hirsch shit plenty of times.
>>150130351NTA, but getting gays in your Disney show was not hard, they allowed it in the 2020s because it was good press... as long as they were NOT the MC.
>>150129692No, it's not. It's far from a sin like nazism.
>>150130463He's not whom I was talking about, since he's a Disney shill.
>>150130498>cynicism is bad because it's not NazisThe fuck kind of logic is this?
>>150130397>greentextWell, yeah, Dana herself has admitted how much TOH changed due to Disney’s meddling. And look, I’m not saying she’s right to complain, artists whining because their idealized versions were changed by the studio always rub me the wrong way, especially after learning about Steve Hillenburg and the Boating School.
>>150130543Hillenburg was a cuck.
>>150126932>Generic sports show crap>More anthropomorphic animal crapChange that shit or keep it on Furaffinity, a movie with this exact premise is coming out soon.
>>150130291I watched the first episode. I didn't like the whole "us weirdos gotta stick together" but oh well okay. Then I watch the second episode where she has an adventure and think, this should've been the first episode. Then I watch whatever episode where they forget about the us weirdos part, and Eda forgets about the whole teaching Luz magic. But she is very insistent that Luz mustn't go to school. Then I watch another episode where Eda sends Luz to school so she stops annoying her. Then I watch the season finale where Eda is all like "ah, I love having Luz around so much... Gonna miss her when she returns to Earth and stuff."Too inconsistent for season 1. Then for season 2, ugh I didn't already like the green hair for Amity but holy crap the pink one with the receded hairline was so much worse. And it kept the same inconsistencies between episodes, but now Luz and Amity looked so much uglier. So the show worked really really hard to make it difficult to watch.
>>150130543>especially after learning about Steve Hillenburg and the Boating Schoolqrd?
>>150130681Nickelodeon wanted SpongeBob to go to school, and it was one of their demands to greenlight the show. Hillenburg didn’t want him to go to school, as he wanted SpongeBob’s age to remain ambiguous.He then came up with the whole boating school concept, and years later, he admitted that he loved the result and wouldn’t have come up with the idea had it not been for Nick's demand.
>>150125956They're all on the naughty losy
>>150126820>eden riegelThat's boscha's va! Is gwen a based stoib enjoyer?
>>150127015wouldn't be surprised if he gets some bit part (though also wouldn't be surprised if he never shows up)Also wouldn't be surprised if Alex Hirsch gets a bit part at some point
>>150129020there he is
>>150130964Bionic arms?
>>150122581I know she had a lot of trouble getting the show to wrap up in that third "season", but I thought overall Owl House tied up all the major plot points. Better than letting the show get cancelled with a cliffhanger. I just think it's cool she gets to basically turn all the body horror art she's fond of drawing into an actual show. I hope it's as intense as the trailer is suggesting.
>>150130964More members for their harem.
>>150131042Will definitely be better than garbage like Kim Possible and Phineas and Ferb.
>>150130999You deny it? She entered the industry by working on Gravity Falls, where she immediately slept with the creator. Who then recommended her to direct DuckTales. What is cockladdering if not that?
>>150127015it's dumb but they kind of have a point. i don't know who any of these people are but it looks like Dana gave jobs to her buddies from the Disney days.this whole show is an industry plant.
>>150131042>letting the show get cancelled with a cliffhanger.That was actually what Dana originally wanted to do once she found out season 3 got cut down.
>>150131073Nothing wrong with being an industry plant so long as you're good.
>>150131153you are dumb
>>150122581
>>150126820>prozdoh, that's perfect. I kinda wonder, if the character was originally Korean or they made him korean because they specifically had Prozd in mind.
>>150131073I don't think you're using "industry plant" correct. I'm not even sure what you're bitching about. It's bad that VAs from previous projects were hired for this project? That's not a problem unless the VAs are garbage and a serious detriment to the quality of the work.
>>150131062Nah
>>150123780This is slowly happening to every board. It’s especially noticeable on /co/ though, because let’s be honest, cartoons have a high chance of attracting evil schizoid autistic people.
>>150131208Vox is such a loser, jesus christ. I'm glad Dana has more than two braincells rubbing together, but it sucks that "Disney revenge" is such a popular idea.
>>150131208This is somewhat hopeful about the show than what everyone has been predicting.Either way, fun to get a dunk on AwestruckVox.
>>150131276It's like the KJ said said; she's making her own indie IP from the ground up and all people want to talk about is her old boss.It's like if Rebecca Sugar made her own show and people won't stop talking about how it relates to CN.
>>150131239this person who previously worked at motherfucking disney and had her own 2 1/2 season show has brought on people who worked with her on that show at motherfucking disney for an "indie" project.
I hate gay people so as long as this show doesn't have gay people we're cool and I'll check it out.
>>150122927>y'allAyo fr fr shiet what is blud TALKIN BOUT with his goofy ahh lips no cap sheesh
>>150131399I'm about 50/50 on the two human leads being dykes.
>>150131390yes. I don't think you know what indie means.
I don't know what the story/premise is from any of the trailers, and for that reason alone I know this is going to be terrible. All these people care about are themes and concepts, but can't write a story to save their lives.
>>150126820>SungWonChoAHAHAHA
I JUST HAD A BEER FART
>>150129969It's gay propaganda for gays to exist? So what about straight propaganda that alienates gay teens who are confused over their crushes being same sexed? Doesn't sound fair now does it?
>>150122581Dana shitrace lostMatt Braly won
>>150131664Who cares about gay teens? They are watching Hazbin Hotel.
>>150131672put it back in the deck
>>150122581It's no news or secret that Disney's legacy isn't the promised land of perpetual perfection, and many have mentioned this in various ways.However, to what extent is the disdain toward the company justified or feasible, to the point of mentioning it at every opportunity? Many have turned over a new leaf; others remain with the same impression, but not to the point of "obsessive dislike," or as a fierce search for a cathartic outlet that, at time, it's affect in not good way the creative field.
>>150131676And they were watching TOH and other gay shit?
>>150131664Shut up chomo
>>150131733Why are you asking him that
>>150131664It's not propaganda if it's straight. In that case it's natural. Look up what propaganda means.
>>150131664Straight propaganda doesn't exist. It cannot exist by the definition of propaganda or what being straight is.Unless you mean pro-natal propaganda but thats another thing entirely.
>>150131664Fags lives would be easier if they could just BEE Normal but they insist upon self-destructing themselves for degenerate lifestyles and blaming normal people for not accepting them.
>>150122581A pity both sides can't lose. At least her thinly-veiled teenage lesbian wish fulfillment flopped.
>>150131664>It's gay propaganda for gays to exist?Yes. Fag shit is a mental illness that should not be promoted nor normalized to any degree
>>150131390Who cares who she hires. Its her fucking project to helm. You have a problem with who gets work in animation. Create your own animation project, get the funding, and hire who you want and can within the budget. That is the core benefit of being independent.
>>150123966Wow, he wrote some books. Anyone can do that.
>>150132251As a consumer, it's my right to care who's working on media that I'll spend my hard earned money or time on. Customer's always right.
>>150132262And how's that book writing been working out for Dana Turdrace? Oh wait nevermind. Pffffttttt HAHAHAHAHAHAApparently anyone can write a book except for Dana Turdrace because she's too much of a low IQ faggot to even know how to pick up a pen
I find it funny that Gwen, the character created to mock corporate mass appeal in animation, is one of the few with an appealing design.
>>150122581Deadman Wonderland had that aesthetic going on too
>>150131771>it's naturalBad choice of words.
>>150132005Heteronormativity.
>>150132347Maybe she doesn't want to write one? Besides, she's been busy with this show.
>>150132469Dana is way too good for Deadman Wonderland
>>150132598>believing any lies spewed from DykenaEl em ay oh
>>150132730>post from 4 years ago when owl house was still airingObsessed. But damn it's been so long
>>150132505>>150132556whatayousay
>>150132505Straight couples are natural. You have parents.
>>150132730Matt Braly won btwToo ez
>>150132752I wonder how big his Owl House "gotcha" folder is, and how much time he's spent looking for content to put in it. I'm willing to be it's more than the entire runtime of the show.
>>150132826I know it's fully of troon pictures
>>150132826What >>150132833 said. This guy is known to spam the shittiest raeda ship art just to fill up the owl threads that he finds in the catalog
>people still reply to the schizoAt this point I'm just going to assume you like the guy.
>>150132897No, we should keep replying. Then he'll have to keep responding himself. Let's not allow him to sleep. /tv/ once did this with a schizo who always turned up to shit on that D&D movie from a few years ago and after keeping him up for three days straight, he vanished shortly after. This is how we break him.
>>150132674You need to take that back. That show was a piece of fucking shit and I'd rather watch TOH like twenty times over that garbage show once. At least the main character isn't such a fucking total pussy.
Womp womp womp
>>150133106Because that worked so well for industrycuck didn't it?
>>150122581plushie woodland critter sex
>>150133106>>150133323This shit didn't even work on tribefag; it's been YEARS of doing this and he shows no signs of stopping. At this point you just ignore the tard.
The D&D guy still popped up in other threads by the way. You constantly replying doesn't "break" people.
>>150133135>fagtard has shit tier reading comprehension
>>150133398Dude also has a shit grasp of DW which is shocking since it's not a deep show.Not only did he toughen up, his reactions were pretty reasonable given the fucked up stuff that happened to him.
>>150132556>water drinking propaganda doesnt exist its normal to drink water>aquahydrationnormativitypropagandistic reframing of the instinctual assumptions of a sexual reproductive species does not make straight propaganda real.
>>150133135Anime>shitty DTVA faux animeSorry I don't make the rules
>>150133472>>water drinking propaganda doesnt exist its normal to drink waterSodabros…
>>150129247>promoting a show to a streaming service which gives her the freedom to basically do whatever she wantsthat's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard>she promoted it to a cable conglomerateAnon, if you've ever tried to pitch anything (you haven't) you'd know that getting the meeting at all is difficult. You don't just call up whatever network or service you want to work with. You have to have connections that you work to get the opportunity. Dana had connections at Disney since she'd already worked Gravity Falls, Tangled: Ever After, and Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure. It's not about choosing to pitch to Disney - it's that Disney gave her the 1 in 10 million chance of pitching and she went for it. And when they gave her notes instead of a flat out no, she workshopped it.
>>150132897I dream of the day we unite to make him finallt kill himself. One can hope.
>>150133630Pack a lunch.
>>150133106>>150133349I mean he's been kicking high gear all week long. Maybe this time we get to make him seethe enough until he has a seizure or some shit like that.
>>150133650This is just delusional and shows how people have become invested in a shitposter.
>John Bailey Owen>Zach MarcusEh, should we know who those two are supposed to be? Dana is well known for creating The Owl House, but I don't know jack shit about the other names.
>>150133650He has seemed more deranged lately. Maybe Matt's embarrassing tweet and Dana having a new show is what finally breaks him.
>>150133826Also Owl House writers
>>150133726I wouldn't say invested. He's just been a plague for so long that most people in this board just want to get rid of him, even the ones who hated The Owl House.>>150133955The latter surely, he has this weird parasocial relationship towards Dana that her existing drives him mad.
>>150133955I don't ever side with tribefag but literally no one should care about that nothing burger of a tweet.
>>150134081Actually they do, I see chuds still seething about that tweet as if Matt personally castrated them just by posting it.
>>150134014>I wouldn't say invested. He's just been a plague for so long that most people in this board just want to get rid of him, even the ones who hated The Owl House.That should be the mods' job but y'know, perfect world fallacy.
>>150122581>Amphibia is kino>full season 3>best cartoon finale>Amphibia has a higher rating and mogging the absolute fuck out of the Owl House>Marcy's journal is selling like hotcakes>Amphibia graphic novel is in production>Amphibia art book is selling like hotcakes>Matt is working on a movie with Sony and earning millions>Didn't get his show canceled unlike the shitter hack ex-co-worker of his>Didn't get blacklisted and fired by Disney like what happened to Dana Turdrace How did Matt Braly do it? Amphibia just keeps winning.
>>150134435>inb4 this user was banned for announcing a report/sage
>>150134415This is so fucking sad on your behalf
So I can expect this to be queer slop right? She was denied her lesbian couple so she'll go all in im guessing.
>>150134809But she wasn't denied her lesbian couple, Amity and Luz hooked up on screen.
>>150126820So a tranny is in a prominent role? Ew, no thanks.
>>150134014Can confirm. I hate the owl house. But I don't support spamming the TOH threads with frog shit. He should fuck off to the never existent frog threads.
>>150133826>No CotugnoHahahahahahagahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahah
>>150134415>best cartoon finaleStopped reading there because now I know it's just bait.
>>150135249Amphibia has no board presence; you see this in the tournaments,
>>150132556Hetero is the norm, it can't stop being the norm, without Heterosexuality our species die, you are a genetic dead end, all of the "pride" shit is to encourage your ilk to take the shit strain of your defective genes away from our gene pool. I learned you subhumans call us "breeders" like that's somehow meant to be degrading, no wonder your kind commits suicide half of the time, imagine chomping off bodyparts, playing house with your masturbation partner, prefering plastic dick to the real thing, and pumping all sorts of harmfull hormones to your body and taking "pride" in it, being cheered on by the biggest companies in the world, and being so deluded as to think the "bad guy" is the one telling you all these is wrong, stop doing this to yourself and yet you believe being denied your behavior is the "real genocide" being perpetrated on you.
>>150135249>>150135336Last time I tried making a frog thread, it got like 20 replies before it died. Only the Froggy Friday threads seem to last, but they're really slow and typically die after a few days anyway.
>>150135315Cope owltard
>>150135267Nobody fucking likes Cotugno. She deserves to get blacklisted out of the industry and get an honest job.
>>150135458No, I don't think I will.
Speaking of cartoon show thread zero presence on /co/>last owlshit thread died with zero postHow embarrassing lmaohttps://desuarchive.org/co/thread/150080989/#150080989
>>150135496Meanwhile, in reality, Amphibia kino gets recognition in the Emmy Awards. Meanwhile, Owlshit terrible finale season was forgotten and shat on by everyone on /co/.
>>150132815So you are saying there is no homosexuality in nature?>>150135373Starts with a wrong understanding of Heteronormativity, no wonder you guys gave trouble telling parody headlines from real headlines. Heteronormativity encomoasses the belief that gay people for example, can be cured. >>150133472Heteronormativity can bring out homophobia which has killed and hurt people. Tell me what happens if "aquahydrationnormativity" is "enforced"?
>>150128979She was an animation director on Ducktales. It wasn’t “her” show. She also worked on Gravity falls, tangled: ever after, and rapunzel’s tangled adventurefag
>>150136031Listen, if you don't drink water that means your hydrophobic and likely have rabies.
>>150136273Someone sends his son to shock therapy to cure his homosexuality or to some abusive bible camp to pray the gay away. Now do that but with aquahydrationnormativity with real life cases or organizations.
>>150132824I like how Frogfags make Matt Braly hated on /co/ just by being themselves.
>>150136875An Owl House faggot who unironically watches Dana's tranny slop, saying their delusional, deranged fanfic babble out loud won't make it any truer. There's not a single sane person on /co/ who has any negative impression of Matt except for Dana troonshills solely because Amphibia mogs Owl House. I can literally make a single Dana Turdrace hate thread on /co/ and it will get to the max bump limit in less than a day just to prove a point. Retard.
>>150122581ok
>>150136031>>150136551Being gay isn't normal. Deal with it,
>>150137436Of course you can, but 90% of the posts will be yours.
>>150136875This isn't at all true. Not even other frogfags like this guy.
>>150138436*wheeezes*
>>150138471Go ahead, make a thread about an Amphibia side character that only appears in a few episodes and see if it lasts for 4 days or gets anywhere near 170 posts. Spoiler alert: it won't.
>>150125868It's all spongebob and flash in the pan SpongeBob copies isn't it?
>>150138558Link me a single Owl House thread on /co/ that reached the bump limit that's not about off model goonshit art of Luz and Amity. Meanwhile, I can post dozens of Amphibia threads on /co/ about the frogs that reached 500+ posts. Even Felicia Sundew, a literal side character, was given her own spotlight by the frogchads.
>>150138669Lol, you are bald
>>150122805it's sad how some simpletons actually believe that the view itself is a thumb up
>>150138759The view count is ad money
>>150138735>no proofsJust like that. I accept your concession
>>150122811>I'm just more annoyed it's mediocreIt's not even out yet.
>>150138669That's not an Owl House thread, though.
/ourgirl/ Storyboardanon posted
>>150123727Bots and schizos are not people.
>>150139989#notmygirl
>>150139989God these designs look ugly.
>every single TV Tropes page about KoG won't shut up about DisneyGrim.
>>150136551https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jirnr3PusPk
>>150126900All lolis age. Beauty is fleeting. The value is always that there was a loli at all.
>>150140408Never trust a woman to make good looking female designs
>>150126900I think "Old Olivia" is going to be a clone or something. That's just my personal theory.
>>150130528You read that backwards.
>>150123528She would if he was an animator with industry connections.
>>150130810Imo, you can always credit the retarded CEO for coming up with something that the creator had no indication in wanting, but it took the actual ARTISTS to make it work, and without it, wouldn't had made spongebob any less enjoyable as a show, because 90% of the show isn't about him in boating school. If anything it's thanks to that shit that slowly made Spongebob more and more infantilized today and all of that "adult" like charms he was giving in the early seasons are all gone today.Talented artists are the only reason that idea even worked, but it came at a price that the very company likely wanted from the getgo to make the show as child tard friendly as possible and turn away a lot of people that was once the original audience.
>>150131390You do know none of those people work at disney full time right? No artist is 24/7 employee, that's not how this industry works. They are freelancers, they get paid only on what they are hired to do, and when that show ends, they are terminated until needed again.As far as creators go, they are just being commissioned to do their craft. That's what being "independent" means.
>>150141559SpongeBob was simply never a good concept to begin with.
>>150141447Cynicism is a shit mentality.
>>150131664More like white propoganda that alienates non white teens who become confused why they must be killed for crushing on white teens. You're not suppose to exist if you aren't white accepted.
>>150141559>turn away a lot of people that was once the original audience.People outgrow kid cartoons anon.
>>150131729>However, to what extent is the disdain toward the company justified or feasible, to the point of mentioning it at every opportunity?Same could be said about America in the first place. Claimed to be hte "greatest first world nation on earth" when it's only that for the elite rich.As for Disney, it's not like Disney is the entire reason animation exist in the first place or something. Why else would people be disappointed the founder of animation itself became the end product of final stage capitalism.
>>150132041Pedophiles, neets and rapists are all straight and yet, they get a pass.
>>150141920>it's not like Disney is the entire reason animation exist in the first place or something. It literally isn't
>>150141920You just wanted an excuse to bitch about capitalism.
>>150131664Why are you asking this anon? You know the kind of replies this will get from here. In any case at least you got your (you)s.
Disney was always a capitalist pig even going as far as Snow White; his reasoning was as that feature films made more money than short films.
If the mcs are girlbosses, I won't watch it.If they're normal, I'll probably watch it.It's just that shrimple.
>>150142019Also the Soviet Union was unironically a better first world country than America as it didn't serve the elite rich. Disney was late stage capitalism from the start.
Glitch is literally the production of late stage capitalism; it has to hawk merch to fund its own shows. The human race is doomed.
>>150142035>If the mcs are girlbosses, I won't watch it.70% chance of that happening. Ironic that it jabbed at Disney making princesses more proactive when this seems to be the case for Gwen.
This looks like a job for the BVLLs of /co/ to fuck their way out of.
>>150142138We might actually have a new dad join us in the cuck shed! I'm such a happy kek!
>>150129247>Dana wanted this shit to be 6 seasons longAh so that's why it felt rushed the lesbianism of Amity and Luz.
>>150142049You should read more history.
>>150142079Selling things to have funds is not late stage capitalism, you twit. Learn what words mean.
>>150142107Then I will simply ignore the show and not shit up threads.It's just that shrimple.
>>150142215>>150142201>Selling things to have funds is not late stage capitalism, you twit. Learn what words mean.That is exactly what it means you retard. In the Soviet Union and in China, the government fronts the cost of animation it's not on people to sell shitty merchandise to keep their lights on.
>>150142163We're going to need more Nintendo Switches and Søylent for our new member!
>>150142253That’s just capitalism, not “late stage”.
>>150127377Didn't Tolkien fight in WW1
So will this overshadow Gaslight or the other way around?
>>150142520Depends on the general pilot quality and how much name recognition will boost it. Dana being attached *might* allow it to temporarily overshadow Gaslight but if the pilot ends up being ass or not as good as Glitch’s other works Gaslight might be able to take the spotlight back.
>>150129505>implying anime doesn't have its own fair share of female protagonist slopthey literally made a Gundam owl house
>>150136031>belief that gay people for example, can be cured.They can. But you guys resort to "uH , hE wAsNt eH rEeL gEii tO bEgUiN wIth" or "nO uH, hE's jUsT bAk iN dUh cLuSeT" there's this school shooter kid that wrote in his manifesto some shit about fags in the past having wives and children yet having an affair with a guy, these homos clearly can perform normal as evidence by them being able to get a wife and getting her pregnant, yet they go after some dude in their free time, that shit's clearly a choice otherwise they wouldn't be able to "perform straight" in the first place.
>>150127377>>150142502I'd argue is more "War is horrible but it's a part of life you have to learn to live with" given his own experiences.
>>15014252050/50 depending how Dana plays her cardsVisually? Gaslight BLOWS Gwenverse out of the waterWriting? That's when the real meat comes from
>>150142173Sabrina also didnt fucking help with this either because Disney deliberately brought her in to help with Owl House the way Nefcy originally brought her in to "help" with Star Vs she ruined one magical show and then almost ruined another.
>>150135373>Hetero is the norm, it can't stop being the norm, without Heterosexuality our species dieHuman wise sure despite other creatures getting by just fine or handle males far better than humans.But science has singlehandedly revealed to us that DNA is now controllable and at that point the limitation of "natural" biological adaptation becomes arbitrary outside of fearing the unknown, despite the modern world as is would already be considered witchcraft 50 years since. We literally have china making robot womb droids where incels galore would praise to the heavens is the answer to the fertility epidemic, yet if that same breakthrough allowed women's genetics to fetilize other females it would be called the devil's act against man itself. When in reality, survival is survival is survival. Life does not care how it lives, living is 'natural', how it got there is entirely irrelevant.
>>150143400>We literally have china making robot womb droidsI have a bridge to sell you.
>>150141889Sounds like a (you) problem
>>150141904>People outgrow kid cartoons anon.The original Spongebob is as kid show as Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry. Something kids today don't give a shit about, but adults do.
>>150141952Prove it.>>150141969And? It's always a good time to do so.
>>150141904>People outgrow kid cartoons anon.Just like people outgrow anime right?
>>150126963I dunno man, a Brit who fought in World War 1 and lived through World War 2 writing an overly prose story about fair and noble people from the west uniting to fight hideous warmongering monsters from the east?
>>150122772Calling it now that this series is going to hyper-appeal to lesbian non-binary chicks with colored hair and few others.I say this because that's about 80% of the Owl House fanbase, and they make sure to let you know it.
>>150143469t. Commie cuck
>>150143495They outgrew kids anime.
>>150143469>Prove it.How do you not know about Gertie the Dinosaur and Windsor McKay? Is /co/ ignorant of their own medium?
>>150143506Fuck this racist puto.
>>150143444Cynicism affecting the media has been a reoccurring problem over the years actually.
>>150142400>retard
>>150142848>Dana Terrace>meaty writingThe only meat in her writing is Arby's roast beef together.
>>150143553And anime as a whole?
>>150144022Not all cartoons and anime are for kids anon. It's not so different from outgrowing live action kid shows.
>people are talking about spongebob >what about anime though, hm?Why are you niggas like this?
>>150142663That's literary what Heteronormativity enforces. You were supposed to post proof and all you had was some school shooter vs a failed industry of gender conversion therapy. To make things worse, your point is booster the sexual fluidity argument which I sure as hell you don't believe.
>>150144134>No it's different because it just is okay!
>>150144160>anime is comparable to spongebob because…it just is okay?!
>>150144158Being gay isn't normal
>more people were talking about literal gay shit and arguing with bots and schizos than discussing the new trailerThis does not bode well.
>>150144222Glad we are back to reductionist arguments instead of actually trying to defending the position.
>>150144282Glad we can agree that being gay isn't normal.
>>150144243I don't know why people expect a serious discussion on sexuality on a cartoon board. I think it's all for the you's.
>>150122581have you tried being less of an obsessed faggot
>>150144222Technically you are correct, it's outside of the norm.It sounds very rude though.Hell even the dude talking about heteronormativity admits heterosexuality is normal just by using that term.
>>150144282>defend the position! reductionist arguments!>muh heteronormativity!We get it, straight people existing piss you off.
>>150144364>Hell even the dude talking about heteronormativity admits heterosexuality is normal just by using that term.Weird isn't it?
>>150144327What is normal?>>150144366>We get it, straight people existing piss you off.What does a guy being electrocuted to cure his homosexuality have to do with "straight people pissing me off"?
>>150144384Heteronormativity is enforcement, in advanced societies where gay people are not enduring bigotry being gay would be "normal" but you won't accept such framing because your definition of "normal" is vague for argument's sake.
>>150144411>What does a guy being electrocuted to cure his homosexuality have to do with "straight people pissing me off"?You wouldn't complain if it were a straight guy being electrocuted gay.
>>150144364What is normal? Who decided that being normal meant being straight? Bigots?
>>150144411>>150144452In no advanced has being gay ever been considered normal. Even actual gay people have expressed that they don't want to be normal. The whole "what is normal" bit doesn't work.
>>150144476That's projection and is unfalsifiable. What does heterosexuality have to do with Travis Ikeguchi murdering a woman for having a rainbow pride flag on her store?
Are you all seriously having this argument? Was the trailer that boring?
>>150144547Yes, it was. Fuck Dana Turdrace. Amphibia chads WON
>>150144523I asked you what is normal, what defines normalcy. Focus.
>>150144541What does homosexuality have to do with that?
>>150144547I mean, the trailer doesn't actually show much despite what "analysts" on youtube would tell you.
>>150144564>Focus.You can't even realize what normal is and will just move the goal post, saying advanced societies will accept gays.
>>150144574Travis was an homophobe.
Remember when this place was about shooting the shit about cartoons instead of demanding everything be a college debate over unrelated shit?
>>150144615That is based.
>>150142520If she deftly combos cutesy animation aesthetics with edgy, bloody angst, then she has a recipe for the kind of product that just churns out fan content on an industrial scale. Gaslight scratches my teenage edgelord itch very well, but it's by design a sort of ugly, gorey show. She could have something here, but we'll have to see.
>>150144595>You can't even realize what normal isBecause you refuse to define it. As I stated you need the terms to be vague for the sake of argument, otherwise if they are properly defined then they can be challenged which would be bad for you.Now, what is "normal"?
>>150144452Anormal means outside of the norm.Normal people are attracted to people of the opposite gender they are called heterosexuals, they make a majority of the population, hence why they are normal in a gaussian curve.Heteronormativity is basically just the normality of heterosexuality in society.Homosexuality is anormal in mathematics and demographics, not in a pejorative sense. It's an statistical variation outside of the norm.Retarded grievance politics aside, this is a cartoon board. Think about it, is it normal that a lot of toys are bought by adults as collectives?It's pretty much the norm by the size of the market even if someone would consider it weird that a man buys toys based on cartoons.Don't take it personal mate.>>150144547My mistake was thinking people would want to talk about cartoons in a cartoons board. Instead I find people complaining about gay not being normal yet using a term asserting heterosexuality is the defacto normality of society, It's such a perfect form of bait I couldn't help but bite.
>>150144641You should just start from there to avoid wasting my time.
>>150144654>>150144667Why do you keep dragging this out? Ignoring how this has fuck all to do with the subject, why do you expect honest answers from shitposters? Do you seriously think you'll change any minds? Yeah no fucking shit your time would be wasted.
All this sexuality talk doesn't really matter considering you're all faggots.
never change /co/mblr, never change
>>150144654>>150144664
>>150144664>Heteronormativity is basically just the normality of heterosexuality in society.Michael Warner popularized the term in 1991, in one of the first major works of queer theory. The concept's roots are in Gayle Rubin's notion of the "sex/gender system" and Adrienne Rich's notion of compulsory heterosexuality.Heteronormativity is the enforcement of what encompasses heterosexuality. Gender conversion therapy is enforced Heteronormativity.
>>150144713Fuck off bigot
>>150144730>pedophile talkYou're done.
>>150144730So basically a retard with academic papers coined a term that defeats it's own purpose. Reminds me of idiot erudites that deny rain exists because their models of the world doesn't include it.The absolute state of social sciences.
>>150144664>My mistake was thinking people would want to talk about cartoons in a cartoons board. Instead I find people complaining about gay not being normal yet using a term asserting heterosexuality is the defacto normality of society,Not everything has to be about cartoons r*tard. We're allowed to have conversations about enforced heterosexuality.
>r*tard
>>150144788>>150144768None of you had actually anything to say against the meat of the argument. Why would someone be submitted to electroshocks or abusive religious indoctrination in isolated places for being gay?
you people are very retarded im glad i stopped watching kid shit after season 4 of SU
>>150122652What's funny is Dana is an annoying libcunt and she doesn't understand retarded women like her made working in the industry such a hellscape.
>>150144811>moving the goalpostsYou're double done. Leave faggot.
>>150144811Pedophiles are large in part of the LGBT+ community so this nips it in the bud.
>>150144843Heteronormativity is enforced heterosexuality. You can't debate what is the basis for gender conversion therapy. I am. Always on topic and you just can't argue with it.It's even irrelevenat if anyone ever studied it or coined a term because the reason for gender conversion therapy is the same. You can't even win there. >>150144861And this is just slander that had nothing to do with the aegument.
>>150144811Dafuq you talking about?Talk about the sudden escalation of pearl clutching, this is a cartoon board bro.Can't believe I'm about to type this buy I'm not autistic enough for this nonsense and I like trains. I don't think I have the deficit of chromosomes to fit into this conversation.
>>150144884>Always on topic Literally nothing you've been arguing about has been on topic holy fucking shit. Why do you all hate cartoons?
>>150144898>Conversion therapy is the pseudoscientific practice of attempting to change an individual's sexual orientation, romantic orientation, gender identity, or gender expression to align with heterosexual and cisgender normsYou are too smart for this convo. I agree.
>>150132469I wish it got more seasons.
>>150144928>the weird obsession with gender conversionAnons I think you've all been arguing with a you know what…
>>150144924Glad you like Knights of Guinivere but let me tell you something: it wasn't me who started it.
>>150144941If only the first season didn't flop and the studio didn't go bankrupt.
>>150144943Gender conversion therapy is enforced Heteronormativity. None has argued against it.
>>150144222Neither is going to space
>>150144952>continued the argument for several hours when it was clear everyone was bullshitting youI don't get why people go with this grade school they started it shit.
>>150144974You are literally the omelet one who keeps bringing it up. Did the trailer give you bad memories of your dick getting cut off?
>>150144884>it's slander because I don't like itThe facts are there. You just don't want to see it.
>>150145015Expansion and exploration is part of the human experience
>>150145024They are not "bullshitting me" they are trying to actually have a discussion. They are just terrible at arguing.>>150145044>You are literally the omelet one who keeps bringing it upNo shit dude, that's my argument.>>150145063Too late dor that discussion maybe in another thread where you can report me for hurting your feelings.
Alright ladies and fellow bvlls, time to give these new girls a preview of what they'll be in for:
>>150145111>Too late dor that discussion maybe in another thread where you can report me for hurting your feelings.>I got a warning for one my postsStruck a nerve when stating basic facts did I? Can't wait to see have a meltdown over facts in another thread.
>>150144664>a majorityAnd that's where you're wrong. The universe is objectively dead and life itself is NOT the majority. Yet if you actively said that we should ignore that fact by equating you have to have a man fuck a woman to keep life going, then you're going against what is objectively the "norm", that life isn't the majority in reality.The act of continuing life by ALL means, aka, quality of said life, then being so up in arms that a subsection of life doesn't want to be paired up with the opposite sex is retarded. As far as the universe cares, life shouldn't be, so we actively going against that is abnormal. So if that's the case, why should the abnormal be "normalized" as in to fit your subjected sense of normality?
>>150145111>No shit dude, that's my argument.It's a nonsensical argument that has nothing to do with anything. Like shit did you even like this new show or do you enjoy collecting you's.
>>150145102>exploration is part of the human experienceExcept if it's about not staying straight.
>>150145111>They are not "bullshitting me" they are trying to actually have a discussion. They are just terrible at arguing.No you're just retarded to recognize bait.
>>150145181Oh boy you sure would, you sure would.>>150145204>It's a nonsensical argument that has nothing to do with anything.You just have to say this to avoid the reality that gender conversion therapy is done to people for the "sin" of not being cis and straight MEANING Heteronormativity.
>>150145218>exploring new lands is comparable to sucking dickThis responses are getting bot like.
>>150145227Glad these people are just pretending to be retarded and don't truly mean what they say. >>150145204>>150145181
>>150145236What does that have to do with fucking cartoons?! Do you just think about gender conversion 24/7?!
>>150145251They don't. Again, if you were over the age of 18 and weren't autistic as shit, you'd see that.
Don't mind me, just taking snapshots so I can laugh at the KoG fandom in advance.
>>150145272>I just want to discuss cartoons, wh-why is this dude being like this?? Why is he so mean? Nevermind the opinions I was espouting some minutes ago.
>>150145236>Oh boy you sure would, you sure would.Facts don't lie.
>>150145285Glad that this dude >>150145181 is actually an LGBTQ ally and that people here actually do believe beimg gay is normal.
>>150145333I know you are just trolling and actually love gay people, this dude here >>150145285 told me.
>>150145317>Why is he so mean? Nevermind the opinions I was espouting some minutes ago.I wasn't the pollards you've been yelling at. I’ve literally been asking what this has to do with cartoons. Fuck it's like talking to special needs student.
>>150144664>>150145385
>>150145317>>150145340>>150145360>Primos>PokemonOh I see, this has been a retarded zoomer. That explains why the concept of "bait" is completely foreign to them.
>>150145403Not my post you schizo.
>>150145410More like it's a zoomer who thinks he's an ebin puppet master by acting like /co/mblr. You know what they say about acting retarded and all.
>>150145410Baiting someone does not meant the person doing the bait is not genuine in the sentiment behind it. You would be retarded to think the dude talking about gay people being pedophiles is actually a secret LGBTQ ally instead of just your average 4chan bigot.
>>150145458>avergae 4chan bigotGo back to Bluesky ma'am.
>>150145433Then you are an idiot for barging with someone arguing about Heteronormativity. You could just post about the show, but you HAD to engage with me, you just had to.
>>150145458>Baiting someone does not meant the person doing the bait is not genuine in the sentiment behind it.No that's exactly what it means. They post whatever it takes to get your goat. I never said he was actually a secret ally just that he's just trying to piss you off and get your attention.
>>150145447I may be older th>>150145498an you guys I am near 40.
>>150145483>barging1. This is an open forum you autist, you can engage with whoever the fuck you want to.2. You could have easily done the same and just ignored people to talk about the trailer. But let's be real, you're baiting everyone else.
>>150145498You think that someone posting infographs about black crime in some show with a black man don't truly believe black people are more prone to violence and are less intelligent? You think that because he is "baiting" the he does not genuinely believe that?
>>150145503That's fucking sad, assuming you aren't bullshitting.
>>150145528You barged in MY comment thread, you clicked on my comment to leave a reply to me. Not to anyone here arguing with me, but me. Why?2. I truly believe what I state so that othee guy arguing about bait is dumb.
>>150145538No one was posting anything about black people.
>>150145569>You barged in MY comment threadAgain it's an open forum you autist. We are all anonymous and we respond to whoever we please. Go to a discord DM if you're pissy about it.
>>150145578>I did eat breakfast thoughHoly shit.
>>150145569Not everyone thinks like you and isn't as moronic as you. It's about what I expect from an autistic 40 year old.
>the only fans of this show are autistic 40 year olds who only talk about gay shitI hope frogfag is getting every word of this.
>>150145630>Not everyone thinks like you and isn't as moronic as youThat is not what the discussion was all about, you are an idiot.>>150145609>Again it's an open forum you autist. We are all anonymous and we respond to whoever we please. Go to a discord DM if you're pissy about it.Here is my hypothesis: You agree with the other dudes that's why you jumped on me and are now getting defensive when I question your intentions
>>150145627Wrong reply?
>>150145669>Here is my hypothesis: You agree with the other dudes that's why you jumped on me and are now getting defensive when I question your intentionsIt's a Mongolian basket weaving forum for kiddie cartoons. It's not that deep and not everyone is out to get you. You're nearly 40 man.
>>150145675No, you are just really really dumb. You can't wrap your head around hypotheticals, and that wasn't even one because it happened innAssasin's Creed Shadows threads.
>>150145669>That is not what the discussion was all about, you are an idiot.The thread discussion was about Knights of Guinevere and you don't seem to care. You are the idiot.
>>150145694Why you clicked on my post to a direct reply to me? What was going through your little head? Tell me, because I sure don't reply to some guy arguing about "tranny propaganda" in TADC threads to talk about the show.
>>150145702No one was talking about Assassin's Creed and no one understands the breakfast reference or your weird images. You're crashing out man.
>>150145733No one was talking about TADC threads. You need meds.
>>150145719>The thread discussion was about Knights of Guinevere and you don't seem to care. You are the idiot.Neither do you because you are just talking to men you idiot. Talk to this dude >>150145694 why don't you morons talk to each other? If I am just so stupid then you should just give each other a reach around and ignore me, but you don't. Why?
>Why you clickedNot sure if ESL, mentally ill, or both.
>>150145777>randomly going off about men and giving each other reach aroundsYour brain is absolutely fried. You need to get off the internet if this is how you act at age 39.
>>150145753>>150145773Holy molly I can't believe these 2 dudes can't into abstract thinking.
>>150145814>abstract thinkingThat's just could for schizo talk.
>>150145806Why are you not ralking to the other dude about the show? Why you can't answer that? If I am so unreasonable why do you keep insisting? You lack abstract thinking, you lack empathy. You are NOT an intelligent person. Sorry.
>>150145834>You lack abstract thinking, you lack empathy. You are NOT an intelligent person.But enough about yourself.
>>150145846I actually think I am talking to people with undiagnosed mental disabilities.
>>150145874Again enough projecting sweetheart.
>>150145874Not everyone thinks empathetic to post homeslice
>>150145888When presented a real life case or hypothetical:>>150145578>>150145773>>150145753
>>150145926You're projecting your mental illness again. Shame.
>>150145913I actually think he might be mentally ill since he's quoting some retarded green text and expecting everyone to know what he's talking about.
>>150145946>Bait is not tied to authentic feelings!So you belive that [Hypothetical] does not truly believe that because he is baiting?>We are not talking about [Hypothetical] what do you mean schizo?
>>150145185>muh nihilism Frowning Friends…
>>150145995Anon why are you posting pictures of yourself. We get it, you're retarded and took bait, no need to take your tard rage on us.
