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>The Owl House, but for Gen Z males
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>>150125426
Boys don’t give a shit about magic unless it is shooting kamahamaha blasts and summoning buster swords.
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>>150125426
>boy and his mom
atleast the shotacon incest fans will have something to care about, I guess.
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HEXED! wow I'm TIRED! of these RETARDED! titles.
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It would be funny if all of the "original movies targeted towards Gen Z young men" are just the same shit, but with male protagonists.
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>>150125485
Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are popular with boys.
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>>150125426
It is going to be another Elio situation
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>>150125426
a boy?
it better be a cute boy
the owl house should have been about a boy
also a terrible title , fuck social media hashtag one word title bullshit
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>>150125426
It won’t. Disney will always be a “girl” brand. Making your protag a boy won’t make boys think otherwise. See Elio.
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>>150125507
Despite their partial admittance of failure, I think the people in charge are still operating under the belief that they know what's best and that their beliefs are infallible. So they're probably looking at this "gen z male problem" as something that they need to solve by first tricking young men into watching, so then they can spoonfeed them the correct opinions and beliefs to have, so they know to keep coming back without being pandered to first.
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>>150125426
>and his mom

Even when Disney makes a movie for boys, they still gotta shove a female protagonist into it.
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>>150125426
Wait a minute. Isn't this just that frog shit show?
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>>150125426
>and his mom
Woke
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>Gen Z males
Anon, gen Z males are in their 20s.
This is not made for adult men.
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>>150125600
It's probably going to do more generational bullshit, Disney needs to go back to making orphans.
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>>150125567
most likely, they are bringing in the most garbage movies they can in order to complaint that people no longer want new IPs so they can make another 5 toy story movies. I wonder if Disney even have test groups anymore, there's no way anyone watching those movies will say "yes, I will pay money to see this in a big screen."
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>>150125426
Sounds like it will just be the boy-version of Turning Red.
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>>150125625
Yeah, but we're a generation of man-children who never developed, both in terms of maturity and attention span, so mentally we are still 12.
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>>150125426
Disney should go back to adapting fairy tales instead of trying to make original IPs.
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>>150125619
Stfu
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>>150125426
Give him light skin and a bunch of anthro/monster girl love interests and MAYYYYBE I’ll check it out
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>>150125691
How about classic adventure books like they did with John Carter?
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>>150125689
I think that's projection on your part.
You're a very specific type of manchild who has a panic attack when he sees blood or titties, most manchildren love both of those, and this show will have neither.
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>>150125689
oh you’re a jeet, that explains it
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>>150125720
>blood or titties
You just cracked the cod to appeal to Gen Z males!
Disney, hire this anon!
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>more witch slop

I sleep
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>>150125426
>teenage oddball and his mom
it's gonna be about a single mother and his gay quirky son isn't it?
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>>150125426
Hopefully I like it as much as I did Owl House
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>>150125773
So?
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>>150125426
So, which ethnicity is the director? i'm guessing if white is gonna be about (extremely veiled)coming out, if non white life as the child of immigrants
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>>150125717
>boy has weird problems
>mom is trying her best, but she has no idea how to actually coach a kid through some x-men shit
>magic shenanigans isekai them to magic world
>boy's magic powers are normal and suddenly her son is having healthy, normal interactions with kids and girls his own age
>mom sees the obvious good in this
>encourages her son to befriend and romantically pursue all these friendly magical monster ladies
This is a good enough premise to be a highly successful harem anime series.
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>>150125836
Disney's first Filipino director!

I guess at least she's an animation veteran, been at Disney since The Princess and the Frog. However she's also the writer of Ralph Breaks the Internet so good chance we'll get another story about how stupid and wrong the MC is and how perfect his female co-star is.
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>>150125923
>yes son you NEED to impregnate that lamia, centaur, and elf. I NEED grandkids now!
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>>150125426
>It follow a teenage oddball and his mom
If this has no porn I'll consider it a failure
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>>150125426
>a boy and his mom
are there any kid shows where kids arent constantly accompanied by their parents now??
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>>150126026
Only as long as the mom is as chubby, or chubbier preferably, than the mom from Owl House.
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>>150125426
Okay I know this is cliché but /co/ what would you pitch to Disney to win back the mail audience? And please don't just say you'd make animated porn.
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>>150125426
>male lead
What? This is clearly a girls' movie. Discovering inner magic you always had is a female thing. Males have to work to earn their power.
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>>150125426
>Luz will now be a straight white male
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>>150126043
Oh that's nice
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>>150125426
there is no fucking way anyone would actually watch this shit.
>>150125498
at least we got vee out of the mitchells vs the machines.
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>>150126052
I'd unironically make a show about car racing, because kids like Hot Wheels.
Have the cars be able to morph into giant robots that fight the villains of the week like Power Rangers, because kids like action shows.
Every episode has the main plot about defeating the monster of the week, and a sub-plot about winning the race of the week, because kids like sports.
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Here is how I'd write this movie if Disney hired me:
>The protagonist and his mom arrive in the fantasy world where it is common for humans to use magic as an everyday occurrence
>He just happens to not be able to use magic at all, while his mom ends up being a prodigy with immense magical power
>The protagonist tries to make up for it by focusing on his physical strength, but the massive gap in power between the two becomes even more clear when his mom turns out to be the chosen wielder of the legendary Hex Spell Book held by the first Emperor Hex
>However, everything changes when the protagonist obtains the ability to summon anti-magic blades using a mysterious cursed Hax Spell Book, and ingrained in its cover is a five-leaf Black Clo-
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>>150125485
I am into divination magick. Mostly tarot and pendulums.
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>>150126093
>Show immediately becomes 400x better
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>>150126052
Rip off TMNT. Four teenagers get exposed to some supernatural bullshit that transforms them and gives them powers. Right off the bat, young boys love cool monster characters and teams of characters give you variety for different personalities for kids to latch on to.

Make the characters able to transform back and forth so you can have a little bit of mundane drama and comedy in between the action. A little Danny Phantom crossed with Power Rangers and TMNT now.

Next step, develop a simple power system. Each of them gets an element or a gimmick that reflects their archetype. The bad guys work on the same system. Give it enough vague rules that you can evolve or upgrade the powers later, and enough flexibility that you can have the characters do clever things with their powers. You want to get as close to Stand Battles or One Piece type of shit where "my power is a bad match for your power!" type of shit. Kids and teens go crazy for that. It also allows for power scaling and death battle type discussions, leading to organic conversation on social media. Free advertising.

Last thing you do is keep the lore and worldbuilding kind of vague, but pepper in a mystery throughout the season. Where did the supernatural bullshit come from? Who is behind it? Mid-season, one or more characters have their powers go crazy. Maybe they can't transform back or they turn into some new kind of monster. Whoa freaky. What's that about? Keep watching to find out. Decode the deepest lore by scouring every frame and following the clues peppered in the dialog from this shady mysterious guy that shows up in weird places!

Ez pz.
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>>150125426
>disnefied Okaasan-Online
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>>150125564
Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings have male characters doing halfway masculine things like fighting trolls and evil overlords, being good at fighting and sports, and having crushes on cute girls.
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>>150125426
Christina Hendricks better be the model for the mother
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>>150125426
It's not gonna be for boys, it's going to be marketed towards Disney moms and their gay/trans sons. Screenshot this.
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>>150126228
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>>150125426
>Mom/Son isekai
Nobody watched the last one and I know because if they did, there'd be more than 0 posts in the archive crying about the lesbian single mom
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>>150126210
Don't forget to throw in the Tommy Oliver evil cool guy who turns good at the second season, so people the boys can go apeshit about how he is so cool and shit.
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>>150126306
How the fuck could I forget the morally gray anti-hero that turns ally? You're hired.
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>>150126228
If I had a nickel for every incest isekai...
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>>150126052
Wild loincloth wearing boys of three different ages to fit ages 6-16 demos. Doing wild stuff in the forest

>>150126295
I liked this show, shame it just didn't get to finish
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>>150125426
it just needs to be an actual weird boy and not 'neurodivergent representation and his autism mom'
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>>150125564
I don't know a single boy who enjoys harry potter.
After the first 3 books it just becomes a high school drama.
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>>150126329
The mom isekai isn't incest, or even incest-bait (the guy has no interest in his mother). I am in fact confused as to why it exists.
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>A magical teenager finds out that they're magic and gets magically transported to a magic realm to magic with magic
Fuck off with this shit. 25 fucking years of this shit.
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Female writers don't understand that little boys think moms are lame. An adventure is something you go on with your dad, not your mom. That's gay.
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>>150126393
if she's hot and sexy and constantly jealous over other girls stealing his attention, it can work
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no S edit yet?
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Aaaaaaand- it's dead on arrival.
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it's astonishing how they can keep producing tons of shit with a message that they don't believe at all
it's like a Chinese mega corp producinng countless films saying ''freedom is everything''
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>>150126393
Kids don't want to go on adventures with their parents, they want to go on adventures with their friends or meet new friends on their adventures. We'd figured this shit out in the fucking 80s, it's not rocket science.
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>>150126367
Still incest bait by virtue of proximity like most incest ships that aren't canon.
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>>150126052
I think ultimately, good, interesting stories with good villains. Don't write the film around the "5 minutes to make you cry" or the big message the writers wants to spread, make the story about a rat getting to create fine dining, what if race cars were alive etc. first then fit suitable themes into it.

Don't tear down your characters for the big message you want to put across. Ratatouille never shits on its characters for example and it's a great film. I think that a good story told way and positive male characters (that aren't "he became a good person because we made him realise he was shit") is more important than any ideas.

Anyhow if you have to get an idea from me

>fairy tale world
>MC is a teen wanting to become a warrior, training on horseback endlessly to become a great knight like his dad
>war is declared on the evil queen's kingdom
>recruiter comes to his village and does tryouts
>he's impressed by the MC's riding skills, lets him join his elite regiment
>gets to a camp, sees it full of knights in armour like his father
>"what's my orders, when do I get my armour"
>"deliver this message to a castle 20 miles away, we need it delivered by sun down"

Turns out his horse riding skills made him a good messenger and his job will be running away from big epic fantasy battles
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>>150126402
No, that role would be better filled by a childhood friend. What you described would just be annoying, since most people do not have a mom fetish.
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>>150125426
This sounds absolutely fucking dreadful. Like a vanity piece from a 40+ year old mother that still can't cope her child is deffective instead of "special"
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>>150126422
You're right, but if a boy going to adventure with a parent, it's going to be with his dad (who tragically dies to increase the stakes). Not his damn mother.
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>>150126411
This is totally another Disney+ series that's been converted into a movie. Hence it being only a year until it gets released.
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>>150126052
>the mail audience?
A group of four letters get lost in transit to their destination and have to find their way back to it before Christmas. One of them is a girl envelope made out of pink paper has eyelashes.
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>>150126437
Disney is all about minority representation, right? well, mamacons and soncons are sorely underrepresented in media.
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>>150126450
Fair. If you HAD to go with one of your parents it'd be your dad. I feel like deciding to include a parent is already missing the mark though.
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>>150126451
I'm tired boss.........
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I'm kinda bummed they didn't show off Penelope. It's been 12 years since the last original Fairy Tale movie. There are kids that have gone their entire childhood without one.
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>>150126422
Kids these days aren't really allowed out on their own anymore and I think companies are forcing their parents into these shows as a liability thing. There was even a recent incident where a mother got arrested for letting one of her kids go to the store on their own to get something, something I don't remember a single person ever having an issue with when I was growing up.
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The only parent-son adventure movie I can think is pic related, which wasn't exactly a roaring success. *This* is your inspiration?
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>>150126489
They still do it on TV shows , a movie shouldn't be different
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>>150126489
>Kids these days aren't really allowed out on their own anymore
All the more reason they'd want to see media about kids going out on their own.
No kid wants to see "parent-approved" media, this retarded shit is part of why kids don't watch this stuff, what fucking kid has ever only looked at "parent-approved" media?
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>>150125485
And execs like you are the reason gen z men and boys don't like your slop. You fucking retard.
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>>150126052
>Okay I know this is cliché but /co/ what would you pitch to Disney to win back the mail audience?

Make it about post office workers trying hard to keep their berserker rages under control
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>>150126038
>show
It's a movie
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>>150125426
I'm the supposed target audience and I'm not impressed, to say the least.
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>>150125426
Reaction to this elsewhere is unanimously negative just in case you were wondering.
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>>150126489
And that's why this shit is failing, people have forgotten to just make fucking shows for kids.
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>>150126295
Hang on a sec...
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>>150126411
This is why their "we need gen z men back!!" cries will ultimately not save them from themselves. Disney will continue to hire the same talentless faggots and retards to write and direct everything they make, and even if the concept or pitch was good, the end product will be no different than the last 10 years of sloppily made flops.
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>>150125426
Seems more like Harry Potter
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>>150126450
Most often if it's an older family member it'll be an uncle or sometimes a grandpa
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>>150126595
They ultimately need good writers. People are fed up of therapy session kids movies and adorkable female leads.
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>>150125564
One has sports and the other has swords.
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>>150125426
>"don't complain about Disney's sequels if you never watch their original movies, chud"
>The so-called "original" movies in question:
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>>150125426
>and his mom
They couldn’t have turned her into an animal to get a bro feeling like with Finn and Jake.
Adventuring with your parent sounds like a parent’s idea of fun.
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>>150126595
Disney is incapable of fixing this issue, because they are not willing to even admit this is an issue. Hollywood retards are way too egocentric to own up to the fact that they suck at their job and that anything needs to be changes.

It's like that podcast that some of the Marvel movie writers was at, someone mentioned "I hope this next movie doesn't have an Iron Man 3 twist where they ruined the Mandarin", and immediately the fag writers all went "What? The Mandarin twist was good! It was the best part of the movie!"

They will never learn from their mistakes, because they refuse to admit that they are capable of making mistakes.
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>>150126295
>/co/ missed out on an opportunity to complain about lesbians
Damn you're right. No way an anon would've seen it and not spam that shit here.
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>>150126672
Even then Finn and Jake were both male. The only adventure story with a boy protagonist + female relative I can think is Ben10, and there it's a cousin that keeps getting shipped with him.
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>>150126566
>fanart
>still too scared to draw a swastika
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>>150126736
disregard, didn't notice the radiator cap
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>>150126295
>>150126228
You cant put a male teenager living with a adult woman who not is his mother. Owl House has a female protagonist who trust Eda in the first day, with a male protagonist they should fucking in the second day.
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>>150125426
Sounds like they swapped out a female lead lmao
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/co/ will never be satisfied by anything
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>>150126766
made by Disney? yes
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>>150125718
John Carter completely bombed.
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>>150126756
It worked in Eva.
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>>150126295
where's my Dad/Son isekai?
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Why are people assuming a normal mum and not a badass Strong Female Character mum?

You can have goofy dads (pun intended) but don't you dare have a hapless out of her depth woman as the co-star!
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>>150126787
Yeah, which sucks, because the John Carter books are actually good.
They should have cut all of the tragic backstory and the shapeshifting villain guys, and just have it been about a Confederate taking over Mars.
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>>150126714
Even that is fine since Gwen and Ben are both the same age. There's was none of the "let me baby you" feeling that's inevitable with an older female relative.

The mom will spend the entire time fussing over the boy, and he will be fine just being a mama's boy.
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Oooooo noooooo the mom has blonde hair and the kid has black hair, /po/ is going to be very upset
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>>150126817
They need to ban designers from using purple...
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>>150126817
Is he white?
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>>150126756
>You cant put a male teenager living with a adult woman who not is his mother.
Sure you can.
You just have to accept the fact that people will probably draw lots of porn of them, which they will do of any characters anyways, regardless of their gender/relation/pairing/any existing age gap.
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>>150126800
And to that anon's credit Misato was 100% dtf. It's a shame Shinji was so emotionally fucked up, he could have been tapping that within the first week.
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>>150125426
>and his mom.
Another sure failure, kids that age don't think moms are cool, it's quite the opposite, moms are the enemies of cool!
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>>150126845
He's going to be ambiguously brown.
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>>150126803
Don't forget the boy will be a feminized soiboi without a backbone and looks like he gets raped on the regular
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>>150126803
>mum
Fuck off limey
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>>150126838
>it's another magical world with california's demographics
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>>150126802
Strange Lands Adventures or whatever that flop was called
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>>150126803
because then the mom is the protagonist and the kid is just a tagalong. Which considering the writers is entirely possible.
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Nobody wants to go on an adventure with their mom because moms are boring. Pretty much inherently. If a mom isn't boring, she's being a bad mother.
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>>150126826
>just have it been about a Confederate taking over Mars
Unironically, I'd watch a Disney Channel isekai where, instead of going on gay adventures like Fagphibia and the Fag House, the protag just says "This place is fucked. After I beat the generic monarch villain, I'm gonna take the crown and put it on my head."
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https://x.com/DisneyAnimation/status/1961803026613805499
What does a "Type-A Mom" entail?
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>>150126910
What about a boring yet clingy mother that's maybe a bit too affectionate and seemingly uses her son as a replacement for a lover?
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>>150125426
>mom movie
yeah because the last time worked
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>>150126941
Micromanager instead of Stoner
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>>150126834
if they kiss, it will break records
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>>150126532
This is actually a great idea for a movie. Out of all the ideas in this thread I would greenlight this.
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Why do they keep making making movies about effeminate gay boys? Has there been a *single* instance of this kind of story being successful?
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>>150126941
>A type A personality is defined by traits like ambition, drive, and competitiveness
Girlboss
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>>150126941
soccer mom
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Boys don't want to hang out with their moms. Hanging out with mom is code for going shopping for clothes and going to mcdonalds. Boys want to hang out with their dads. Dad's the one who lets you drive around an empty parking lot and lets you pump the gas.
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>>150126941
It's Pic related

But in all seriousness, probably a pushy helicopter mum
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>>150126964
Yeah, but the mom has to die
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>>150126981
that's the point, MC is going to be embarrassed by her mom all the time
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>>150126295
The only thing I remember is that she abandoned her son so she could fuck the dinosaur.
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>>150126981
Even then, boys would prefer hanging out with their grossly irresponsible weird uncle. Dad adventures are too tame.

>>150126995
Anon, this is meant to be an adventure story. That's lame.
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>>150126995
And her arc will be learning to let her son grow up.
Disney uses the same trope all the time.
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>>150126995
That would be extremely fucking lame.
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>>150127024
>That's lame.
So, Disney.
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>>150126941
Cunt
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>2028
>See? We tried to make "antiwoke" movies and nobody watched it. Looks like we have to make movies where everybody is gay and the whole plot is just aimless wandering and generational warfare.
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>>150126518
>what fucking kid has ever only looked at "parent-approved" media?
a kid without a childhood.
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Disney used to know how to do stories like this, they need to find their way again.
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>>150125426
Having a male lead means jackshit if they're emasculated so(y)boys simps, specially if they're from Disney, just look at Elio
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>>150126697
Ultimately, can you ever trust a company run by the sort of people who would hire an overt psychopath and the ex-personal assistant to an even more infamous hollywood rapist to make a massively overbudgeted Star Wars show no one asked for?

Unless their push to recapture audiences includes hiring outside of their bubble and changing their production structure, they're doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over.
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>>150125564
>Harry Potter
>popular with boys
I'd tell you to go outside, but I don't want to see more landwhales.
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>>150126995
That's my fetish
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>>150125564
maybe 15 years ago
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>>150127121
Why couldn't we get the cast of Star Wars thrown into the plot of a random Shakespeare play with a bunch of catchy musical numbers? Why did it happen the other way around where Disney movies turned into Star Wars?
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Harry Potter follows the female hero's journey (discover a power you always had) despite having a male lead. That's why most of its fanbase is female.
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>>150127228
No, it’s because the writer is female. Someone brought up lotr, which objectively does have a majority male audience.
No matter how much you try, the author’s gender bias will show itself.
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>>150127228
Wow he's even more of a bitch than I thought
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>>150127228
>woman writing a boy just writes a woman
How surprising...
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>>150127244
Female writers can write masculine stories. HP is a feminine story with masculine presentation.
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>>150127228
>>150127244
She only picked a male lead because it was the time she made the made the books and knew it would sell better to publishers, if it was 20 years later she would have had a female lead.
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>>150127247
There's a reason why Gohan fans are a minority and tend to be mentally ill. Even then, Gohan has to work hard to unlock his powers. It's not like female heroes who achieve power through naval gazing.
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>>150127272
>Female writers can write masculine stories
Rarely. Even your example has a majority female fanbase.
A woman never lived the male experience and knows fuck-all about what actual teenage boys actually like.
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>>150127308
>Even your example has a majority female fanbase.
It does? First time I've heard of that, FMA was really popular with boys when I was growing up.
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>>150127308
>>150127335
Yeah I'm gonna need a source on that.
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>>150126981
Boys like Mcdonalds. It's the promise of Mcdonalds that makes them go along with getting clothes in the first place
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>>150127308
I think fma is popular with pretty much everyone, it's just a solid series. Was actually shocked to learn Arakawa was a woman for how well she writes the men.
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>>150127335
the guy you're replying to is likely homosexual and has no idea what actual men enjoy.
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>>150126803
Because everyone knows that the female protagonist will become your typical girlboss feminist mary sue
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>>150126228
IS THAT FERN?
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>>150126985
why can't I take Type B's shirt off?
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Eiichiro Oda once said "mothers are the opposite of adventure" and he's got one of the best selling series off all time. I'm gonna side with him.
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>>150126502
This is going to be more like Brave only Merida is a "boy" this time.
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>>150127388
Arakawa is a rough-and-tumble farm girl who got married and gave birth while working on the manga. She also put effort into researching topics (e.g. war) she did not know about. She is beyond based.
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>>150127427
The mom will be the lead though.
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>>150126941
Best case scenario is that this'd be an asian tiger mom, or a helicopter parent. Which is still terrible.
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>>150125426
If the "world where magic can run free" isn't dark and gothic and badass I shan't watch it.
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>>150125426
Honestly even the name puts the whole “for gen z men” thing into question. Maybe it’s just me but Hexed or hex sounds too feminine, even the visuals they’ve shown look feminine as well. I just don’t get anything masculine from this, it’s clearly the same shit as always
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>we lost the male audience, no boys watch our stuff!
>I know, let's make a movie about a boy and his girlboss mother, that'll make them watch!
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Well, at least Disney still owns ESPN. And Markiplier.
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>>150127272
was the story of that movie even written by her?
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>>150127471
"Hex" is usually something associated with witches. I suppose a masculine version would've been "Curse".
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>>150127471
The movie is about the mom and the gay son will be her accessory. Guaranteed.
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>>150127471
This was probably put together before that... and this is also more gen alpha who are the kids now
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>>150127471
Because of the writers is a woman. The other one (based on his social media) is married to a man.
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This movie is targeted at empty nest moms and childless women.
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>>150127471
Disney forgot how to make shit for boys, and instead of hiring someone who actually knows how to do that, they're just having the same fag directors make the same girly movies, but just throwing a "boy" paint over it.
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>>150127507
>and this is also more gen alpha who are the kids now
Gen alpha boys also wouldn't be interested in this.
Hell, they'd probably be even less interested than zoomers were when they were 11.
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>>150125426
>and his mom
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>>150127530
They will be when their leftist mothers drag them to the theater, to show them how boys properly behave.
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>>150127468
Sorry anon, it's modern fantasy, this is what you get
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>>150127471
I think it's pure coincidence that this is being announced on the heels on the "we need the male gen z audience" articles. Since it's coming out in a year, that means it was in production for at least the previous year or longer. The fact that it's a movie that has an "oddball" male protag and his mom going on a generic adventure to "run free" sounds more like this was another generic Elio-like low-budget feature they don't have a ton of faith in.
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>>150125564
>Lord of the Rings
Hardly any magic, save for a few "legendary" magical items, and even those, only ever like 3 magical items are ever really employed through the series, the One Ring, Frodo's sword Sting (it just lights up when orcs are nearby) and Samwise's moonlight bottle. The only magic-users seen used it mainly by Gandalf and MAYBE the Witch King and Saurmon the Wise. Harry Potter is far more magic-centric and it feels goofy itself. The problem with magic as a tool is it can fix almost everything. Unless magic is a scarce resource and those who use it are rare. A lot of magic you can just magic your way out of.
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The existence of Elio still baffles me. Do women not understand that men HATE fags? Did the success of Lucca made them think they were open to gay protagonists?
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>>150127471
Because Hex is mainly associated with witches, vodoo and all that retarded wiccan shit.
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>>150125426
Sounds like the most generic shit ever, I want a film that strays away from the generic Disney formula, something like Wreck It Ralph. Enough of this generic fantasy shit.

Oh well, knowing modern Disney they’ll fuck over this marketing like they do with every other original film these days. The mouse has enslaved normies to suck his cock and drink his cum so they obey all of his doings.
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>>150127599
>Did the success of Lucca
Huh?
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>>150127599
Because Disney writers and creators are strictly gay men and feminist women. They don't know what a boy or man likes.
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>>150127599
>gay protagonists
pic not related?
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>>150127599
Luca was only gay for people who like to project things
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>>150125632
Oh, that’s a really good idea! How about this: the family has had to suppress its powers for generations and so the mom goes along on the adventure and keeps frustrating her “son’s” efforts because her instincts are to hold back the powers.
Here’s the real twist. The powers are matriarchal in nature. Her mother had these powers and her mother before her, etc. however the PATRIARCHY is what kept them down.
So why does her son suddenly have magic abilities?
Because her “son” is actually trans!
This way, we get both male, female, and trans audiences and maximize profit as well as hopefully enlighten cis people about trans identity!
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>>150127599
They know nobody likes their shit, it's just that they're so egocentric that they legitimately thing it's everyone else who is wrong, and they're the only ones who knows what is best.

This is why they freaked the fuck out when the pendulum swung even slightly to the right (not even that much, just slightly), and tried to erase the evidence by removing it from the movie.
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>>150127622
Elio is not explicitly gay, but he is gay-coded. It's a leftover from when he was meant to be a homo during early production.
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>>150127599
>ewww ban anime girls, only pedos like them
>movie about a gay underage boy is ok though
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>>150127663
>gay-coded
wtf does that even mean? He's just a shy kid.
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>>150125717
God I crave a mainstream film where a human boy finds his soulmate in the form of an anthro chick.
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>>150127690
He looks gay. It becomes very obvious when you look at pre-production pictures. The one who designed him is very clearly a shotacon.
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>>150127690
Elio gets excited when the two older boys bully him.
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>>150127599
A movie about a boy wanting to be abducted by aliens could have worked, but they keep a) trying too much personal experience and life shit, and b) too focused on trying to make characters gay, or some other box check mark thing to focus on the story. They keep forgetting people watch things because of interesting stories and characters not because of the shit of characters being something that fits a check mark and trying too hard for allegories they can't get right. Luca was good because it was simple story , had some interesting characters and story lines without trying too hard.
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>>150127690
It means they don't want to admit they're thinking about shipping underage characters but totally are and will also express moral outrage if you have a problem with their shipping.

See: Luca
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>>150127555
Sad. I could see current Disney do something like that.
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>>150125426
The Sweet Home Alabama memes are gonna be sick!
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>>150126817
>>150126838
Ya, that looks lame. Can we have something that's not le whimsy?
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>>150126838
>/po/
papercraft and origami? what would they say?
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>>150127604
Stop spamming this shit image Jesus fucking Christ
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>>150126838
Re-do the fucking Black Cauldron and make it dark and depressing asf as it was originally meant to.
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>>150125625
I think I feel a thousand years old.
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>>150126845
Biracial probably.
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>>150127839
They would shit on, after all how can we forget about the white supremacist imageboard known as /po/ fellow leftist
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>>150125426
Momma's boy protagonist
Perfect for Gen Z
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>>150126838
>Called Hexxed.
>Protag is le quirky boy and his mom
>Buncha witches in the image.
...
>"I want to be a Witch, Mom! (just like you!)"
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>>150126838
>too many black characters
>blonde mom
>black hair, brown skin son
Yep, it's still DEI. They tried to cover up the diversity with a bunch of loud, puke colors, but we see it.
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Unpopular opinion but mom-son adventure stuff is really cute.
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>>150125426
Will it have hot witch moms in it?
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>>150128177
My fanfic: He transform in a female, young witch using Mom's magic.
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>>150128674
That's fine, but boys and teens aren't looking for cute, that's what autistic 20-somethings with severe arrested development look for.
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the mom is for the men to watch the movies, the boy is for the boys
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>>150128755
Again, you're not describing men (especially not men with children), you're describing autistic manchildren.
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>>150128770
you are saying men don't like women?
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>>150128741
>autistic 20-somethings with severe arrested development
So gen z?
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>>150125498
Watch the mom be a lesbian
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>>150125564
the difference is Gandalf is a badass who wields Glamdring and rides a cool ass horse as well as using fire spells.
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>>150128825
Depends on the type of autism.
Low-functioning autists (the minority) are into cute "comfort shows" where they can pretend to be a toddler again.
High-functioning autists are not.
Gen Z is more just socially maladjusted as opposed to legitimately autistic.
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>>150125689
"we"
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My Little Hexed Autism is Magic
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>>150128837
Honestly, if I get to see a chubby mom romanced by a hot elf lady, I'll be fine.
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Will they have hot sister kissing though?
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>>150128812
Men like hot women.
I'm saying I don't think the mom in this will be hot unless you're the kind of autist who thinks the lollipop people in stuff like Amphibia or TOH are hot.
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>>150128925
no, you're right there, they've not made a hot woman in awhile
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>>150127388
It is. I grew up surrounded ny boys and girls into this show.
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>>150127272
>Exceptions don't make the rule
Which is very apparent with how little other examples there are for female writers writing men.
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>>150128177
>Mommy's a witch!
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>>150125426
I feel like the original concept must have featured a girl as the MC, but:
1. They realized that with a girl the premise is too much like The Owl House.
2. Disney is pushing their studios to make more films attractive to Gen Z, so this is their half-hearted attempt to appeal to that demographic. With a repurposed witch film.
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>>150129145
It's not like Disney was a male brand to begin with. Their flagship shit has always been princesses and fairy tales. It only hurt their brand when they started hyper focusing on female and lgbtq bullshit. Which is seems not even females want. Reminder that Disney didn't create Marvel nor Star Wars, they only bought the IPs and slowly ran them into the ground. Disney is horrid at male-centric movies, and they aren't going to be getting boys back anytime soon if ever. Fuckin' CN and Nick do a better job of that.
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>>150129145
I mean, it should have, since it's going to be a boy in a world filled with women, and not the fun kind. It's highly feminized already, so they might as well have gone all the way.
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>>150126532
GREENLIT
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>>150129145
By 2026, when this movie comes out and flops, we're probably gonna get all the usual cope
>it wasn't marketed enough
>disney butchered the script and didn't let them make it gay
>the original script was better, but executive orders forced them to change it to appease THE CHUDS
>you didn't support ORIGINAL ANIMATION again!!
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>>150126052
post-apocalypse action
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>>150126845
That's a PoC-coded hair style, so no he's not white. It's the same hairstyle as Strange World.
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>>150129030
If only Disney could be so based
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Oh boy, ANOTHER generational trauma story with a Type-A mom and a boy who's confused about his identity, a metaphor for BEING A FAG again? Sign me the fuck up.
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>>150125485
Teenage boys like Brandon Sanderson novels
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>>150126326
You also need to put some type of tornament so that You can show the different factions
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>>150129378
If we wanted to step it up, I'd say we have a lot of people exposed to the macguffin magic and they form teams and factions, who engage in secret turf wars.
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>>150126430
Even with that You can make a good show, i mean comunicación and logístics are the most inportant part of any longterm war SO sending Assassins and explorers to kill the messangers are a must in the enemy faction
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>>150129030
Damn, this brought back a few memories.
What a trip that doujin was... specially when the MC turns into Bob Sapp by the end of it, kek.
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>>150129352
99% of zoomers and gen alpha kids are functionally illiterate, and only a small portion of those that are literate ready fiction for fun.

Tablets and "whole language learning" have ruined two generations
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>>150125426
So this is what Matt was talking about.
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>>150125426
>Mom
I'm expecting generational trauma or "Mom you don't understand me!"
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>>150125485
That's not magic retard. And all of European folklore is all about that shit.
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>>150129469
Not just any mom, but a Type A mom. So expect a girl boss bad bitch yass kween slay character.

I am thinking the writer grew up with a high-powered lawyer for a mother and she was domineering and controlling and wanted her son to become a lawyer like her, but he wanted to go into the arts and how she didn't understand him.
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>>150128861
Yah. impressive how they managed to make an old man cool.
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>>150126295
Lmao, I only know this show exists because that one Minerva/Finn artist did fine art of those two.
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>>150126437
This 100%
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>>150129030
Fuck, i recognize that Doujin.
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>>150126502
>which wasn't exactly a roaring success. *
Retard
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>>150126518
>what fucking kid has ever only looked at "parent-approved" media?
Christian content.
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>>150129652
Is any of it good?
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>>150129652
Better isekai than the Owl House.
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>>150129664
that and OG SuperBook
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>>150127525
Disney was NEVER good at making things for boys I think a lot of you here are just too young to remember how old this complaint is.
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>>150129687
Jetix was alright
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>the faggy boy learns that his fagginess is actually magical powers
How hard did this fag of a writer get bullied for being a fag that he had to think this way. I bet he dreamed every day of shooting up his school, but his parents didn't have guns.
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>>150129687
The Lion King was good
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>>150126672
It worked with Hilda
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>>150127586
I think some anime explore the idea well, that it's a costly/high-risk resource. Fullmetal Alchemist's "equivalent exchange", Hunter x Hunter "nen" and its restrictions etc.
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>>150129742
The real power inside him all along was the power to banish toxic masculinity!
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>>150129687
Power Rangers?
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>>150126697
I think you're not going to get simpethy for having a different opionion if you're not capable of proving why it doesn't work.
If everyone said "it's a mistake" they would have to accept it but one or two people saying "you're dogshit at your job" isn't going to twist ideals around. It's just human nature.

Either prove it with counter examples or prove it with objective numbers. Or expect them to tell you to fuck off. Different viewpoints isn't enough to make changes.
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>>150129811
Is Hilda popular with children? I’ve only seen Koreans with a ryona fetish and self-inserters liking the show.
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>>150129652
I don't think I've ever met anyone who actually liked being stuck with only Christian content as a kid.
Like sure, we all saw shit like Veggie Tales and those old animated direct-to-video Bible stories at Sunday school, but I couldn't imagine that kind of stuff being the ONLY stuff I was allowed to watch.
Maybe if it was all on the level of Prince of Egypt that'd be pretty neat, but that kind of stuff was few and far between, and is even rarer nowadays.
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>>150129687
Gargoyles?
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>>150129227
>It's not like Disney was a male brand to begin with
This is what I don't understand, no one looks at older Disney and thinks "aww yeah that's some manly shit!". They could probably fulfill their "boys movie" quota by just making 10 more Cars movies, boys fucking love Cars. Otherwise it's never been in their wheelhouse to begin with
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>>150126845
Blondes are 1% of all earthlings.
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>>150129958
Until they ruined it in the third season
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>>150126295
For what its worth, it had decent backgrounds. Also the mom is gay and the kid has 2 moms.
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>>150129976
True, but the other anon's point stands, they DID know.
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>>150129964
The problem is, they MADE it their wheelhouse when they went out and bought 2 of the biggest boy brands of the 20th century for billions of dollars.
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>>150130034
I don't think the second mom ever actually appears fwiw, it's mentioned in passing I think and doesn't really affect the show
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>>150127495
>movie
You're thinking of the wrong thing. That's Brotherhood, which is the show that is supposed to more closely follow the manga
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>>150130034
This animation style makes me want to physically ill
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>>150127308
>lived the male experience
Which is universally?...
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>>150127471
Magic itself is anti men because men are barbaric and chaotic.
Magic is a craft, an art, and men hate art and women is art.
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>>150130116
having a penis
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>>150130034
>it had decent backgrounds
It's a trend with Cartoon Network Studios Europe
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>>150125964
Kinda hate that you hit the nail right on the head there.
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>>150125426
>transporting them to a world where magic can run free
I will watch it in theaters opening day if his romantic interest is a weird magical non-Human girl. If not, I doubt I'll ever watch it at all.
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>>150125426
>Disney is trying to appeal Gen Z males
>Gen Z males will still call it tranny slop because they got so used to eating tranny slop, that they can't tell the difference between whats tranny and not tranny
>4chan boomies have trannies 24/7 on their mind so it doesn't really matter

Honestly, what's the point?
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>>150127599
It's not made for men. It's made for gays.
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>>150130214
>>Disney is trying to appeal Gen Z males


>"How do we appeal to the male audience?"
>"I know, lets take the thing we already have and change the girl into a boy"
>"Fucking genius"
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>>150125426
Yeah but is it gonna have bombshell gilfs for Gen Z males like Owl House did?
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>>150130080
no the second mom never shows up, it felt more like a passing line than an actual thing
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>>150130214
Honestly, I don't think this is aiming for gen Z males.
Frankly, I don't think it's aiming for males period, I can't think of many boys whose idea of a good adventure is hanging out with his mom.
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>>150129227
>Their flagship shit has always been princesses and fairy tales.
I think men that saw the rapable faux anime women princesses thought it was made with them in mind until Disney took noticed and stopped making princess stuff to keep them away.
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>>150125426
>Mom
>Not dad
when is the last time Didney did a good father and son dynamic? fucking Hercules? Nemo? Goofy movie even
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>>150130260
this isn't for gen Z males , the youngest gen Z is now 13, they'll 14-15 when this movie comes out they want 6-11 year olds
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>>150127690
>wtf does that even mean?
gay stereotype.
NTA and no, I'm not sure Elio is one, but that's what "coded" means.
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>>150129520
>they
Tolkien. it happens in the books.
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>>150129661
VeggieTales but that's moreso a good show that happens to be christian than it being the other way around.
But I know without some parent/aunt figure being invovled, I myself would have never watched that show ever so it still counts.
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>>150129878
That's just battle manga power-systems and they're closer to game rules than to magic.
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>>150129964
Exactly. Their first ever Disney movies were princess and fairy tales and pretty much the bulk of their entire franchise is princesses almost exclusively. I think them acquiring Star Wars and Marvel and other IPs was their attempt at bringing in a male audience. But BOY did they shit the bed on those and basically emasculated the few male MCs to make the female side characters seem more "girl boss" in charge for bullshit feminist reasons. Now I think Disney is humping after the lgbtq crowd because it's at least kind of adjacent to their female audience. But I doubt they are ever gonna rack in a male or especially a boy audience again. They've made it VERY clear they don't want boys or men, but they still want their money. Anime gives and leans into male fantasy far better than Disney or any current Western studios. Isekais, adventures, harems, female love interests, etc.
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>>150127636
>it's just that they're so egocentric that they legitimately thing it's everyone else who is wrong, and they're the only ones who knows what is best
It also doesn't help that the "critics" often shower them with praise for how brave and groundbreaking they are.
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>>150130184
Yes, but what does that have to do with adventure? Not a single adventure product features dicks.
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>>150125485
The only series Disney has with a magical boy if you will is freaking Kingdom Hearts. And though Sora can use magical spells for fire elements Sora's greatest power comes from the keyblade which focuses on keyblade forms and transformations to fight.

But lets be blunt magic in the Magical Girl form or Harry Potter style? That is gay shit that boys quickly outgrow and see as lame shit. How popular is Harry Potter with boys right now? Especially the magic spells of Harry Potter? Not at all.
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>>150130316
that should've made it about an adult gigachad carrying his mom and dad on his back to find a new home for them after their old home is swept up in a flood.
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>>150125485
Magic is for sissies.
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>>150125426
Dana's already seething with her new series with GLITCH. This is fantastic.
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>>150125625
Anon Disney has made their productions almost for nothing but adult children for the past two decades.
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>>150130373
>Not a single adventure product features dicks.
Anon, I got bad news for you.
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>>150130427
She is so salty about Disney cancelling her show that, when given to chance to make a show about literally anything she wanted, she made it all abut shitting on Disney.
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>>150130363
>Now I think Disney is humping after the lgbtq crowd because it's at least kind of adjacent to their female audience.
And it will not work because lesbos, bi women and ftm trannies already fall under female crowd, mtf trannies will ALWAYS boycott disney because it's an evil capitalist corporation genociding trans folx or whatever, while fags will simply never watch their movies in droves because their main catnip is coombait with hot beefy dudes or furries rather than muh "relatable" effeminate sissyboys disney loves to peddle
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The main character boy is either going to be a spastic dipshit or a beta faggot, or both.
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>>150130412
You don't need muh alpha wish-fulfillment male protagonist to appeal to boys.
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>>150128812
Only fags actually like women
Don't confuse wanting to fuck with liking them
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>>150130034
All western cartoons has crazy backgrounds for counter the very simple design of characters and lack of shading.
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>>150129352
Yeah but he takes inspiration from anime and videogames when designing magic systems like in Mistborn.
I would say guys like the autistic overly detailed magic systems, girls are more into the less defined can do all type of magic. Disney doesnt really do the former
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>>150130427
It's fitting she's mad at Disney for her show that was supposed to be for children on a children's channel failed, because children didn't watch and she doesn't blame herself.
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>>150130551
How are you going to appeal to boys with a boy protagonist that never takes initiative?
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>>150130519
>>150130593
Exactly why it'd be hilarious if Disney does a better version of it.
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>>150130551
True, but you do need a male protagonist who's not a lame faggot (unless you intend for the audience to laugh at them), and Disney is incapable of making such a protagonist.
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>>150130551
Have you heard of Goku, or Batman?
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>>150125485
I think it's fun
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>>150130599
TP Link isn't a scrawny femboy
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>>150130425
A PROPER Conan series would be GREAT. Primal was about as close to the heart and soul of Conan as you can get for a series.
>>150130551
>alpha wish-fulfillment
Sometimes you do need it, and it's sorely lacking in modernity except in iseakis.
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>>150130621
He said you don't NEED characters like that to appeal to boys. As long as a male character is well written and likeable male audiences will naturally gravitate.
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>>150130551
Cool and badass male protagonists and actually fun stories isn't "wish fulfillment" you dumb fag.
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I dare Disney to make an animated movie starring a competent male with blood and swearing. Essentially the level of content you see in a shonen anime, or a fucking episode of Skibidi Toilet.

That's what young guys like. 12 year old me wanted to see cool guys say "damn," and get bloodied up when they punch a bad guy.
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>>150130698
Right, and a male character who's a lame loser who's led around by his fucking mother is not likeable for a male audience.
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>>150130719
Who mentioned "a lame loser" dumbass?
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>>150130733
It's Disney, anon, it's pretty much a guarantee that the male lead is going to be some kind of loser.
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>>150130733
The description in the OP.
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>>150130719
It can if done well like Principal Skinner. But obviously Disney isn't going to do it well.
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>>150130763
I don't think I've ever seen anyone describe Principal Skinner as likeable.
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>>150125426
Jesus Christ you people are completely divorced from reality.
Gen z extremely right wing male here. I’m not watching it. Inform me of when they make a movie about me and people like me triumphing over leftist demons and exterminating them and conquering the world for my people. Of connecting to the mind of god and the anima mundi and developing a new religion to solve my people’s problems, being remembered as a hero, neigh unto a god, and one of the greatest people in history.
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>>150130677
Proper series will never happen. He'll shitified like every other pulp fiction character
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>>150130784
Simpsons fans sperged out when he was revealed to be an imposter
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>>150130785
Based. Soiillennials will read this post, fidget in their gaming chair, and call it "cringe," then proceed to go into a Steven Universe of Homestuck thread.
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>>150130819
That's mostly because they felt like it fucked up his character, not so much because they thought he was super likeable or anything.
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>>150130820
samefag
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>>150125505
It's almost like something made by women...
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>>150130853
Cringing soiillennial salivating to talk about "toxic masculinity."
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>>150130900
That's a soiillennial quip right there. Drinking out of your gryffindor coffee mug, as you sit there, norwood 3 or above.
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>>150126845
More than likely south american. There's a massive borderjumper sentiment going on with leftists these days.
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>>150125426
Mom better be a stacked milf who fucks the boys friends.
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>>150130941
>not fucking her son exclusively
Fag.
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>>150125505
what if it was called SEXED haha
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>>150130607
A character doesn't need to be an alpha wish-fulfillment fantasy to take initiative. Look at Spongebob.
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>>150129030
Memories flooding back
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>>150131043
At this point with how fucking insane and competitive and complex the job market is, it doesn't surprise me. It's not like "ye olden days" of walking into a business or sending out a resume and app. you have to game the system.
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>>150131082
That only makes it worse though. It's hard to be competitive when employers think you're a literal fucking retard or a creepy momma's boy.
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>>150131043
>Poll sample of 831 people

Polling is a fucking meme.
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>>150131043
Gen X sure are a bunch of failures at parenting. Are there any zoomeds without some sort of mental illness or vague "autism" diagnosis?

At least they're not like boomers who actively sabotage their children
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>>150131097
Dude, they didn't mention gender in that poll. I suspect it's both men and women, and at what rates? Also, companies have been fucking people over hard and it actually makes a bit of sense to have a second pair of eyes or questions in an interview, especially with how one sided the power dynamic is. 99% of employers are souless bastards who will toss you under the bus if it saves them a quick buck. I don't think employers or companies deserve any glorification or special treatment. It's a shit hole to work at till you retire or die, so fuck um.
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>>150131043
I refuse to believe that 77% of zoomers bring their fucking parents with them to an interview, that is retarded.
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>>150131018
Comedy protags get some leeway.
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>>150131043
3rd one is completely fine.
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>>150131190
If I remember correctly, it's counting if you just have a parent drive you to the interview place.
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>>150131264
No, it's not.
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>>150131281
Who tf cares at the end of the day. At this point the whole society is regressing back to living with multi-generational families who work together. Shit doesn't surprise me at all.
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>>150131043
>faux news
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>>150131043
Maybe Hexed will be a hit after all….
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>>150131319
Right, but having your parents do your assignment is like having your parents do your apprenticeship for the first few weeks in the 18th century.
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>>150125564
Lord of the Rings is fantastical and a lot of it is magic-al, but there is basically zero overt "magic" because Tolkien didn't really care for it. There are Balrogs and elves and people looking into magical stone dishes that divine the past or future, but Gandalf fires a blast of light like twice and creates a small fire with his staff once, and that's it. The magic in LotR is extremely disconnected from generic fantasy concepts as we conceive them in the modern day and is generally very nonspecific. A wizard throwing a fireball and shooting lightning is totally foreign to that world.

Things ARE magic in LotR, but people don't DO magic.
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Why the fuck is it so colorful? Color is one thing, but this is annoyingly colorful. It's like cohesion aesthetics don't exist anymore, or they need to hide all the brown and black people with colors so that people don't focus on the demographics.
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>>150131438
The difference being is that an apprenticeship actually had a skill. Filling out mountains paperwork or emails is hardly a skill and is just busy work at worst. I doubt their parents are welding together two sheets of metal for them in a metal shop. That and it brings up a better question of corporations throwing more and more workloads on workers. I really think the whole damn system is extremely inefficient, if not on purpose. (A whole rabbit whole discussion of logistical routes and systems, cheap energy via nuclear, and unsustainable farming ie. using crops in their appropriate settings, like not farming in dead zones or the desert like outside of Phoenix, AZ) With the amount of excess labor and tech. 4 day work weeks should be the norm and I think a lot of the system is extremely stale, and inflexible, an most managers are fuckin useless retards who should never have a job.
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>>150125426
>male Amity
>real buttsecks on screen
I want to watch this new boy and Luz getting railed analy side by side with their partners.
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>>150125426
Is there anything more pathetic than a Girl Company pretending they can make things for male audiences? The only men who aren't shitty homos or s o y boys who buy Disney media are Fathers of Daughters because their shitty daughters force them to spend their money on shit like Frozen.

Disney will never appeal to actual boys and men. Don't matter which demographic of males it is, Disney is conceptually an anti male corporation. Its been this way since BEFORE Walt Disney and Ub Iwerks created Mickey Mouse to create the Alice Comedies. Disney will NEVER change their reputation and they should fucking stop.

We know Disney has their winning formula of shitty girl movies like Moana 2 and Inside Out 2. Stick to what you know and fuck off! But if Disney insists on pitiful insulting attempts to appeal to dudes my hope is that they keep failing with males AND somehow that they lose their strangehold on vaginal twats. I want to hear the words "The Disney Princess Brand has permanently failed!"
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>>150129958
Gargoyles is the exception that proves the rule. Even when they did create a property that resonated with boys they didn't know what to do with it, so they mismanaged it and then threw it away.
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>>150131281
it's no different than having an assistant
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>>150125426
OK but if the mom ends up looking close to this I won't be able to watch the movie without cranking my junk
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>>150125572
The title is intentional. Disney uses ambiguous titles to not scare off boys from buying their effeminate shitty media. Thing is that this tactic has frankly stopped working. The generation that grew up on shit like Tangled has long since caught on this shitty tactic and the blade has become dull. Every boy knows that Disney equals Lame Shit For Girls.
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>>150126052
How to Train Your Dragons-similar but from Disney.
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>>150127599
they did understand, that's why they took the movie from the director who was going to make it gay and had two new directors try to salvage it. ymmv on how well it worked.
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>>150129958
Time for an unpopular opinion but Gargoyles is lame shit. Gargoyles tries to make itself a Shakespearean Tragedy style of series. That is it does try to be edgy BUT it never fucking commits. So you get a lot of cock blocks and censorship and blocking the male characters from doing what they SHOULD do their enemies. Goliath in the first episode gives a speech about wanting revenge for his killed brethren but also states he's been denied revenge.

And then you have incidents like how in the second episode we see Goliath say that he should kill Xanatos but is convinced by a Black Mixed Race Woman Of Color that killing is wrong and he listens to her. And Goliath has another scene where he says he will kill the mercenaries who hurt his daughter but he does NOT do it. Do you understand? Gargoyles is a HALF ASSED masculine show. It says it wants to do these things but it won't commit. So its lame shit. I can see why Ninja Turtles is still popular but no one gives a fuck about Gargoyles.

And another thing Gargoyles is proto woke shit because despite Lexington showing he's wowed by sexy ladies like Fox and Angela according to Greg he said Lexington is full gay, not even bisexual but full gay. So yeah it's one of those shitty shows and I'm glad in retrospect that it failed. We don't need any more feminism and gay shit.
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>>150126052
I would pitch nothing. Given how Disney is I would only give them seemingly good ideas but they are actually HORRIBLE. And I would demand the highest budget possible to ensure Disney loses money and suffers.

My biggest pitch would be to make the theme parks worse while jacking up the prices even more than they are right now. I want Disney to suffer and accelerate their death.
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>>150130116
Men and women are treated differently when growing up. It's the reason why men are funny and women aren't. One experience is far more conducive to developing a sense of humor than the other.
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>>150125426
I'd be laughing my ass off when this show turned out to be better and more popular than the Owl faggot House. Based Disney for BTFOing Dana Turdrace. Owl House trannies are on suicide watch.
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>>150125666
Think that the biggest problem is not even Disney but rather the idiot normies who go...

Oh my god it's Shrek 5
Oh my god it's Despicable Me's next sequel
Oh my god it's Toy Story 5

And I know not all are Disney but the roadblock remains NORMIES are fucking stupid and buy into any OLD brand that they recognize without a second thought. I can't fault companies for making shitty sequels because Normies Are Stupid. Kill Normies.
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>>150131747
Shut up faggot. Getting real tired of these "tribe trolls" clogging up these threads. You are shit. Owl House is shit. Knights of Guinivere is going to be shit. And that faggot Thai guy who created Amphibia is shit as well I hope he gets found out to be a child molester so he gets sent to prison.
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>>150131669
The creator retroactively making a character gay years after the show ended shouldn't count against the show.
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>>150125691
They ran out of the famous fairy tales to adapt. This was always going to happen to Disney. They were always going to run out of European fairy tales.

I mean they could adapt foreign ones but I assure you that westerners won't give a fuck about fairy tales from other continents. And if it doesn't sound familiar to them they will not care to buy it.
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>>150131789
Sure, but once they insist, it's hard to watch the show in the same light. It's like saying oh yeah, that character is a pedophile and expecting us to ignore it.
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>>150127696
I prefer a boy who replaces a bitch woman with a sexy android woman ala Stepford Wives. And no subversions, the natural human bitches are replaced by android women.
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>>150125564
From my own experience, Harry Potter is only ever okay for boys to be into if they are still in elementary school and even then some thought it was boring and lame.
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>>150131799
They could always attempt Jack and the beanstalk again. Or Jack the Giant Killer.
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>>150131662
But every single youtube reviewer says it failed because it wasn't gay enough...
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>>150125964
Naturally.

America has been rotting and decaying thanks to progressive toxic feminism. And the rot has NOT stopped. We won't see change in the culture and entertainment for at least another fifteen to twenty years and even then for all you know women will still have rights that they don't deserve.
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>>150131510
>A wizard throwing a fireball and shooting lightning is totally foreign to that world.
Gandalf does that to scare off the Fell beasts when he rides to Gondor, the movie changed that for some beams of white light.
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>Kill witches
>Burn witches at the bonfire
>Stone witches in public square
>Puncture witches inside an iron maiden
>Smash witches under elephant's foot during stampede
>Impale witches and leave them to bleed
>Tie witches to a wheel and spin while you bludge them and break their bones
>Saw witches in two from the butt-crack up
>Cut witches to pieces with a thousand slashes
>Cook witches inside a brazen bull of Phalaris
>Crucify witches upside down
>Shove a bomb up a witch's anus and blow them up from the inside out
>Tie witches to the back of your truck and speed up while grinding them across the asphalt
>Bury witches alive in a coffin full of dead animals and human's feces
>Hang witches with a burning chain around their necks
>Cut off witches' chests and force-feed them their own intestines
>Tie witches to missiles and blow them up in the atmosphere
>Give a lactose intolerant witch normal milk but tell her it's lactose free milk
>Puncture witches' eyes and slice off their tongues
>Mow down witches with minigun
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>>150131621
It also helps that Tangled and its series are... good
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>>150125964
>However she's also the writer of Ralph Breaks the Internet so good chance we'll get another story about how stupid and wrong the MC is and how perfect his female co-star is.

Oh FUCK. This movie is going to be awful.
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>>150131836
Seid ihr das Essen? Nein, wir sind der Jager!!
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>>150131841
Elio was fine, but slap dashed. When they changed the original they forgot to make things work. This is because they try so hard to do this character is x thing and personal stories that they forget to just do a simple story. Elio was alright without the Earth segments of the movie. The concept was a good idea, they needed to make an interesting story and more interesting character. I like the idea of a boy being interested in Aliens as a goal, those are always fun, so they managed to screw it up.
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>>150131836
Disney isn't into the habit of doing a fairy tale when other major studios are doing it as well. Skydance is currently doing their Jack and the Beanstalk adaptation.

The only European fairy tale Disney could do right now because no one is using it is Rumpelstiltskin. But I'd advise against this fairy tale because EVERY major main character in the story except the baby is shit incarnate.

The shitty father who lies to the king that his daughter knows how to make gold
The retarded king who believes such an obvious lie and threatens the daughter with killing her if she can't make gold instead of killing the Liar Father
The useless prince who can see the distress in the girl's life but does nothing to stop his tyrannical greedy father from getting the girl to make gold
Rumpelstiltskin being a sinister opportunist in general
The girl herself for willingly agreeing to give her baby to Rumpelstiltskin to save her shitty self.

I can see why this is the only European Fairy Tale that Disney never adapted every character except the baby is an asshole.
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>>150131881
Got to disagree. Tangled should be retitled...

Everything Bad Happens To The Male Character

Such a shitty movie an the only people who like this shitty movie are the shitty subhuman footfaggots that it created. I hope they are castrated and die painfully.
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>>150131747
The Owl House ended two years ago, and Amphibia three. You're fucking stuck in your own madness and at this point you're better off killing yourself because you're clearly stuck in whatever this shittery is and beyond help.
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>The Owl House ended two years ago
>and Amphibia three

Skill issue.
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>>150131934
Not at all what I meant
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>>150131934
happens to be a show where the boy is pretty much a lead and not shit on
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>>150126052
I know we hate live-action remakes but, a live action King Arthur movie, use "updated" versions of the animated classic and make it some medieval fantasy action movie.
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>autistic kid gets isekaid to a magic world
it's like they know thai people and frogs don't sell
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>>150132018
>but, a live action King Arthur movie, use "updated" versions of the animated classic and make it some medieval fantasy action movie.
Already exists, it kinda sucked and flopped pretty badly.
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>>150131993
Bruh, Cricket is the shittiest DTVA MC of them all
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>>150132109
By ending one year earlier?
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>>150132100
Is he or are you using "shittiest" as a synonym for "I don't want to fuck him?"
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>>150132100
I disagree
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>>150132147
>Amphibia season 3
>Amphibia Marcy's Journal
>Amphibia Artbook
>Amphibia Graphic novel
>Amphibia spinoffs and sequels
Owl house tranny cope lmao
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>>150132193
Didn't deny that it ended one year earlier.
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>>150132109
>>150132193
Go get a job
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>>150132208
I can't wait for Hexed to pop off and becomes more popular than TOH. Imagine the seething and the screeching from the Owl house fags. Dana Turdrace is on suicide watch.
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>>150126052
Horse boys racing in track and field but there are scenes where characters do the Devilman crybaby run and similar scenes from the Matrix animated series where the guy runs faster that what's physical possible.
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>>150132317
Your entire life is dedicated to picturing somebody who've you've never met in your person suffer because something she didn't do is popular? That is extremely pathetic
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>>150132083
Just realised I wanted to type updated versions of the classic designs, anyways...
Guess you are right though, it'd be a somewhat similar movie to that.
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>>150126306
>>150126326
>>150129378
>>150129398
How long until Disney just buys out some manga publisher from Japan and starts using that as their new IP Farm ala Marvel?
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>>150132593
They'd pussify it and ruin the potential it had as an IP to begin with, like they did with Star Wars and Marvel.
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>>150125426
If they want to make a real movie, let them make a movie about fucking Mickey Mouse as a detective or some Donald Duck movie. Seriously, we haven't gotten a Mickey and friends movie in over 20 years! 21 years! Give it to us, not this crap!
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>>150126052
GI joe or CoD stuff with real guns. None of that laser guns censorship shit but keep the cartoon logic.
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>>150132502
Matt Braly won
Dykena lost
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>>150132660
Still hasn't denied that your show ended one year earlier.
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>>150125426
calling it now

>brown kid
>euro magic system/lore
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>>150126052
Big badass action superheroes and secret spies, but played by Mickey and friends. With plenty of drama and comedy. Also action scenes would be nice.

So by this I mean special animated series with such plots. It could be animated adaptations of the comics Duck Avenger and Double Duck, Super Goof, Detective Mickey, as well as new adaptations of Darkwing Duck and Gizmoduck. It could also be Goof Troop and Quack Pack, but with more dark elements. And give them weapons, but with a cartoon version. It would be ideal to make something like that, but Disney doesn't have the balls to do it, and they should.

Also animated adaptations of the comics The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck by Don Rosa would be an ideal solution, but if it wasn't called Ducktales and if it was done the right way. Also, an adventure series following The Legend of The Three Caballeros would also help. And a series about Horace Horsecollar would be great too. And a series about Oswald the Lucky Rabbit. There are so many ideas that they can all be realized, if only there were no stupid political correctness and censorship.
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>>150132667
Owl turd House status? Canceled, flopped, and irrelevant
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>>150130373
Why do you think everyone at Hogwarts waves a magic ̶d̶i̶c̶k̶ wand around?
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>>150132749
True. We all know what the superior one is.
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>>150132749
For someone who loves to call that show irrelevant you sure seem unable to live without it
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>>150132660
Matt won
Dana also won
Frogs and Owls both won
You alone are the one forever loser in all this
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>>150127690
It means "this person is not gay, but I see him as gay anyway because I'm retarded and mindbroken". If you ever see anyone using the term "coded" along with some kind of identity, it's a sign they're full of shit.
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>>150132660
Where's your new show, Matt?
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>thread not even about TOH
>tribefag gets triggered by the mere mention of it
Mental illness is truly fascinating.
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>>150132958
He's having a meltdown in at least two threads now and guess what, the other one isn't about TOH either.
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>>150127388
If anything she's better at writing men then women
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>>150132818
Owlfags lost though. Let's not sugarcoat Dykena's embarrassing failure. Only the Amphibia and Gravity Falls fanbases won because their creator actually gives a shit about their fandom to gift them something as a reward for supporting the show.
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You better give us a second season of The Legend of The Three Caballeros!
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>>150132873
>This new Disney show
>show
Fucking retard can't even keep the facts straight
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>>150133057
>Alex gives a shit about the GF fandom
It really is disgusting how blatantly you lie just for the sake to keep shit running out of your mouth
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>>150131934
>>150132191
>>150132779
>Haven't watch Disney Channel since childhood
>Tuned in recently
>They air nothing but this show
Houghton won guys.
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>>150133097
Owl House had a season 3.
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>>150133097
The Owl House doesn't need all that crap. She's making a new show. Matt isn't. Take the L like a man.
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>>150133086
it's a fun show with some heart
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Houghton CHADS, we stay winnin'!
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>>150132406
>sweaty horse boys with stable boys that brush them after a meet
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>Amphibia spinoffs and sequels
>Never heard of Amphibia having a spin-off show or a sequel show before
>Googles
>There is no spin-off show or sequel show
>"Amphibia spinoffs and sequels" is just a graphic novel
>Frogtard is so desperate to fill in that list that he had to mention the same graphic novel three times.
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>>150132193
>Amphibia season 3
You mean the season that most of /co/ hates at least half of? Yeah, congrats on that.
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>"Houghton is too powerful! Run away! Run back to Terrace instead! AAAAA!"
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>>150133330
Kek literally nobody believes your cope owlfag. How many times are you going to post your fanfiction babble? It's embarrassing.
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>>150133097
Where is your life outside schizoposting?
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>>150133402
>Excuse me you're not allowed to falseflag as a BCG fan, but only I am allowed to falseflag as an Amphibia fan
Man fuck off with this shit, there isn't a single person in this board who will take anything you say at face value
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>>150133360
>bootlicker
Aww he learned a new word but still doesn't know what it means. What a dumbass.
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>Amphibia needs to have official releases in order to compete with Owl House threads

Oof.
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>BCG is mentioned
>Frogfag fucking dies
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>>150129270
>mail audience
>post-apocalypse
Fucking Carlos
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>>150126052
Series set in The Void at The End of Time. Powerless guy gets pruned there and struggles to survive, eventually obtaining some super soldier serum and setting himself on saving everyone he can.
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>>150133691
>mail audience
>post-apocalypse
Postal-Apocalypse
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>>150133623
You cant even link me a single owl house thread on /co/ that has reached the bump limit for the past two years lmao

Talk about self-owning burn
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>>150133159
Yeah, they aired the Library episode the other day, fun episode. The librarians acting all Xenomorph like towards people talking, shit was hilarious.
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>>150133798
Amphibia season 1 is boring slice of life trash too, so that's not saying much.
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>>150125426
>Amphibia and Disney Hexed winning have now caused Owltards embarrassing meltdown
It's that easy
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>>150133841
As opposed to actually funny slice-of-life gold.
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>>150133841
Amphibia season 1 >>>>>> Owl House season 1, 2 and Owl flopped season finale. There's nothing from Owlshit can ever top Sasha and Anne sword fight + Bill Withers kino song.
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>>150133841
I tried watching it, gave up after the first section of the episode. Honestly liked Owl House better, first episode just flew by, second was pretty cool too. The school episode was cool too, having the main kid not go to school but still hang out with the kids from the school is an interesting twist to the magic school trope. However, droped the show after the sports episode, it was a fun episdoe but the way they handled Amity seemed like they were gonna shoe-horn LGBT shit on it and said "Nah, I'm good." Fun while it lasted I guess.
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>>150133961
I can excuse bait and falseflaging, but I draw the line at pretending Bill Withers is good.
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>>150134006
>the way they handled Amity seemed like they were gonna shoe-horn LGBT shit on it
You've guessed correctly. Good job. That is exactly what happened.
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>>150133798
>durr why don't you guys stay in a place full of shitposting that dips thread quality all the time
Retard. Also you're ban-evading way too quick, next one better be permanent.
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>>150133861
Hexed isn't even out or holding any relationship with TOH and even less Amphibia. You're literally just grasping at straws right now to fill the void that is your life with your schizo rants.
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>>150125426
>Be me
>be gen z male
>watched owl house
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>>150134110
So, you're a Gen Z male who are gay. No contradiction.
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>>150134110
Me too, and enjoying it as well.
Especially Amity.
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Owl House is kino. Best thing Disney has done in the past decade.
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>>150125485
You are retarded, as is everyone else in this thread. Including me.
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>>150134011
As if it wasn't already bad enough that you're an Owl House tranny faggot. The fact that you're trying to diss one of the legendary R&B legends of all time, Bill Withers, solidifies you as the biggest tasteless retard of all time.
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>>150134069
Just say that Owl House threads are just as dead and irrelevant as the show. There's no need for you to pussyfoot around stuttering like a bitch-made dumbass.
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>>150125426
more of this magic/wizard witch shit.

they are really out of ideas aren't they?
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Still hasn't denied that your show ended one year earlier.
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>>150134582
they need to get back to pirate shit
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>we need to make more boy movies
>look inside
>girl movie

at least there's gonna be some /ss/ porn so that's a plus
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>>150134582
Current writers can only write isekai, magic, and generational trauma.
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>>150134637
I wouldn't mind if it was good isekai, but it isn't.
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>>150134145
>men liking cute girls is gay now
What will they come up with next
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>>150125426
>loser discovers he/she is actually a superpowered thing.

beaten this idea into the ground haven't they?
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>>150134561
It still lives rent free in your head, never gonna die that way. Don't attempt a "no u" or "muh cancelled", that's just pathetic.
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>>150134739
You know we can see other posts you've made attached to that image, right?
You are gay as fuck.
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>>150134740
It was already beaten to death in the 2000s with Harry Potter, Percy Jackson, and Jake Long.
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>>150134771
>you are gay as fuck because you like cute girls
Are you on dope or something?
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>>150134800
Bro, you post in LGBT threads constantly and get into spats with Trumpfags over gay rights.
Again, you are gay as fuck.
Stop LARPing as a normal straight guy, it's pathetic.
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>>150126052
Take a show like Primal and do that in a fantasy setting with a large assortment of big monsters. You just have to make something with a guy fighting tooth and nail against things like dragons, super powered dinosaurs, and super saiyan baboons and that mail audience will be delivered
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>>150134739
>>men liking cute girls is gay now
If by cute you mean little then yeah, paedophilia is very much part of the LGBT movement since Harry Hay, a founding member of NAMBLA, is also a founding member of the Gay rights movment.
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>>150134827
Take your meds because I have no idea what the fuck you're even talking about
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>>150135134
Whatever helps you cope, faggot.
Now go back to arguing with some other faggot about gay rights on fucking 4chan of all places while pretending you're not a fag.
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>>150129632
It wasn't, the cult status it has nowadays doesn't change the fact that, back in the day, it just made enough to not be considered a flop.
But I'm guessing being an incel prevents you from actually doing research.

>>150129479
What would you call it then?
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>>150135327
Kamehameha is ki, technically.
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>>150134110
Amity tops.
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>>150129908
>Either prove it with counter examples or prove it with objective numbers

This is what west vs. east arguments in this board usually amount to. Maybe they should be sent to Disney writers.
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>>150134762
Owl house canceled
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>>150133080
Only when he remembers he needs the royalties. I love how much Alex shit talks Disney but when they ask him to promote a book (so he gets royalties) he immediately bends over and present his fag anus
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>>150135377
Yeah, but that's not the only example that anon gave, and Ki can be considered magic in the broad sense that it's all made up bullshit that gives people power (at least, how it's portrayed in fiction). It's not really wrong to call it that.
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>>150131043
>a boy going on adventures with his mom?
>hes just like me fr fr
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>>150125426
It's already looking better than Dana Turdrace's owl house slop
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>>150135407
Why is this your biggest gotcha? Good shows get cancelled all the time, while much worse crap go on forever. And you keep going on about season 3. Well, The Simpsons has a season 30. Does that make it ten times better than Amphibia? Funny how all your biggest points always backfire.
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>>150135808
They especially backfire because Amphibia was cancelled one year earlier than Owl House.
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>>150135808
Good shows don't get canceled, cope owltroon.

Owlfaggots iffy uh
Owltroonies be seething yuh
Shitty Owl show, got canceled yuh
Dykena Terrace do be fuming
Matt Braly be winning millies, yeah

Froooog gaaaang
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>>150126848
Rahxephon is basically that, ShinjixMisato ship.



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