>>150129472*onAnd yes, Batman Beyond had a similar premise, but the circumstances were very different.
>>150129472That isn’t Batman
>>150129701Yeah that's American Psycho.
>>150129472Gotham didn't need him anymore because the Dent Act essentially destroyed the majority of the crime in Gotham.
>>150129750eh?? its the machinist.
>>150129472>Mastah Wayne, I don't like you wasting your thirties in furshit. Also, your ex-gf never wanted to get back to you.How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>150129845I thought he was The Prestige
>>150129472Tbf, he was still funding the development of the fusion reactor for Gotham, he was still somewhat trying to help the city in some capacity.
>>150129901you idiots that's Arthur Stuart
>>150130166Also known as John Connor the 4th
>>150129503Very is an understatement. Crime was down in TDKR, but crime went higher in Batman Beyond.
>>150129863>fook off Alfred m8, go make me a brekkie
>>150129472He also wouldn't get crippled by being a dumbass who just tackles a villain over an edge instead of using his damn batarangs. This may be hard to accept but... the Dark Knight trilogy isn't anywhere near as good as reddit & other normies pretend it is.
>>150130400>the Dark Knight trilogy isn't anywhere near as good as reddit & other normies pretend it is.Agreed. Ledger (mostly just him) and Eckhart carry the Dark Knight so damn much, that Batman and every other character seem irrelevant in that movie.Also, giving Bruce a half-assed attempt at a romantic interest was a weak choice on Nolan's part.
>>150130469I wouldn't even give Ledger credit. His Joker sucked for just being a literal hobo in face paint & prosthetics that gave him this annoying smacking. All because Nolan is afraid of comic book elements. It also inadvertently gave us Leto Joker, Arthur Joker, & the deformed Joker from The Batman deleted scenes. Trying too hard to be serious & different instead of being authentically Joker.
>>150130400Honestly TDK seems to be the only one people cared about at all. When it came out a lot of people seemed to have forgotten Begins was even a thing. And Rises only got as much attention because the middle movie blew everyone's mind.
>>150130400That trilogy still mogs all capeshit movies. Sorry.
>>150131036I know you're just saying shit but in reality the TDK movies aren't even better than the best animated Batman movies. Those actually try to be comic book.
>>150131249Why would I want a movie to be like a comic book? I'm not a nerd.
Batman's a fictional character owned by a corporation and not a single author, any given iteration would do whatever they agree he'd do.
>>150130233It's actually Ford V. Ferrari
>>150130679>Not muh jokerGet over it grandpa. Ledger is BY FAR the best thing in all the Nolan movies. Not even close. In fact I would say he's the only good thing in any of them.
>>150129472Is this not taking a premise from one of the most famous and revered (despite modern debate over it) Batman stories? One they directly reference with a line from an old cop when Batman first reappears in public?
>>150130400Dark knight is pretty cringe when jokers not on screen. It's just overly cliche cop drama
>>150130400Begins and TDK are still fantastic. Rises was a disappointment other than memes.
>>150130469>Agreed. Ledger (mostly just him) and Eckhart carry the Dark Knight so damn much,Ledger sucks people just pretend he was good because he died
>steps in to stop corruption in the police force>stops the mafia who corrupted the government and police force>when he finds out the mafia has international ties he stops them too>empowers the justice system through both his donations towards good men like Harvey Dent and his work as Batman when the police lack the force to do it themselves>defeats the supervillains who rise up to try to counter his superheroism>inspires the people of Gotham to literally fight back against super villainy>inspires the next generation to pick up his mantle when he gets too old and bustedNolan Bats is extremely effective. The broken man at the start of Rises actually accomplished all he set out to do. He defeated the corruptive forces of the justice system and empowered it to actually work as it is supposed to.
>>150129472really?
>I need to take the heat for Harvey Dent's crimes>but also I'm gonna retire
>>150130679It also gave us a decade and a half of cringe as fuck Joker sad white boy culture shit. TDK is overrated as fuck.
>>150134086I see no contradiction.
>>150130400dude, he was so beat and he used most of his gear fighting the Joker and their goons
>>150134098Begins is the best movie in the entire Nolanverse because it feels the least pretentious and the most ornate and operatic.
>>150134141>nolanverse is pretentiouskill yourself
>>150134141what is pretentious about "NO MORE DEAD COPS" and "MY DOGHS ARE HUUUNGRY"
>>150134141Nah, """""realistic""""""" Ras is stupid as fuck, Scarecrow is completely wasted, and I don't think Breath of Fire is a good Batman or Bruce Wayne.
>>150129772It's a funny concept that a new law would be more efficient at getting rid of crime in Gotham than years of a billionaire dressing up as a bat to beat up criminals
>>150131249>I know you're just saying shitEveryone agrees, only smelly terminally online weirdos try to argue otherwise.
>>150134215THINGS ARE WORSE THAN EVER
>>150136150He only got the legislation because his works as Batman to clean up the corruption.
>>150129472Wow, awkward phrasing on the title. What are you, a brit?
>>150129772the dent act was in fact illegal and unconstitutional and was ended in the final movie.
>>150136150>>150129772So what I'm hearing is that fascism works.
>>150130400I like them but as I've grown older, the undeniable shame those films feel about the source material has kind of turned me off. Same with the first Joker.
>>150134098WE