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kaine and miles? literal whos.
it's Norman time.
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>>150131583
Bitch we saw this coming.
But who is the “Peter” working at Rand and ghosting his friends?
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>>150131583
Yeah, he literally made Peter a suit, glider and gear at the beginning of this run.

The big question is who is pretending to be Peter.
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>>150131693
Rek-Rap
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>>150131693
Ben
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>>150131583
Can Norman Fuck Spider Gwen
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>>150131820
Yes, Gwen was made for Norman.
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>>150131820
Her spider-friends are cock blocking Norman from her.
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>>150131938
>Not even Peter's friends realize it's not Peter.
Why should he care if he doesn't come back to Earth or not? And why should we, the readers, care?
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>>150131938
If Norman impales a poochie or two I'm buying the entire run. Also, why is there a buttplug hanging from Anya.
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>>150131967
Not even just once but twice. Seems someone can just replace Peter any time and no one close to Peter will ever be the wiser
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>>150131982
It’s scroll attached to her belt.
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>>150131583
b-but Gwen said....
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>>150132001
...Right.
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>>150131991
Again, why should Peter care about them? Why should we care about him coming back to them? Seems to me that the only one to give enough of a shit to realize it and do something about it was Norman Osborn, and even then, it's probably for the best to keep Ben Reilly and Norman Osborn too busy with impersonating him to go back to supervillainy.
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So anyway, the xth attempt at Chasm is just the physical embodiment of Peter's backbone and personality, and how it must die for BND Peter to exist, right? There's no other way to read for this, we're supposed to look at Ben and find him off, when in reality a sizeable portion of readers considered that just miffed Peter behavior.
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>>150131714
>Even Chasm!Ben thinks Spider-Norman is ruining Peter's image
KEK.
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>>150132110
Most people assumed it was Chasm, honestly. Some people were hoping it was Kaine impersonating Spider-Man instead of Norman Osborn, but that's largely because Norman impersonating Spider-Man is pure faggotry frankly.

Norman's milking the most unearned redemption arc of all time though, and that's pretty hilarious. It's like CB Cebulski is not enough of a Gwenfag to stop the dead blonde whore from getting thrown under the bus and now permanently replaced by Spider-Gwen. Even the worst things that Norman did have now never happened.
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>>150132113
Peter's brand has always been nonexistent. We're just going back to the THREAT OR MENACE status quo that Editorial loved when they were twelve, and is therefore sacrosanct. It's just the Spider-Man bungee cord taking its course and pulling things back again. It doesn't matter: if they want him to be popular again, they'll just make him popular again without ever trying to explain why or how as a gimmick to try out for another couple of years.
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What in fresh hell
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>>150132175
Don't be sad, be glad. It's another thing for me to upset Gwenschizo with, at the very least. That's really the only investment anyone has left with ASM. Really hoping Ultimate Spider-Man gets a new series after Ultimate Endgame.
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>>150131583
Hopefully Norman fucks MJ
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>>150132203
Gwen Stacy is for Norman, and the streets!
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>>150132230
>>150132203
Norman should rape Spider-Gwen into submission just like the original Gwen who no longer exists anymore hehehehe
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>>150132276
I'm sorry friend, but Norman Osborn, the gallant SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN 2.0 would NEVER sexually abuse a woman. Instead, that loose whore Gwen, after being rejected by Miles Morales, will try to put the moves on Norman.
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>>150132340
that does sound like something a slut like gwen would try to pull
she needs mj to kick her ass again
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>>150132230
Gwen and MJ were both made for Norman
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>>150132358
>How fucking dare you break Harry and Miles's hearts by letting yourself get impregnated by someone as awful as Norman, you horrible cunt!
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>>150132371
Sorry friend, but VenoMJ won't abide anyone but Peter, and it looks like Marvel got really tired of fucking around and finding out after Paul.
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>>150132384
No no no how could Marvel do this to the country of Poland... Al Ewing, we Polish people WILL rape and murder your family for this insult...
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>>150132384
That incident at NYCC where Lowe was forced to confront his own inadequacy was probably the straw that broke the camel's back.
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>>150132358
The only way to keep a stupid bitch like Gwen in line is to beat her up periodically and show her who is boss (it is MJ, MJ is her boss).
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>>150132410
Which incident was this again?
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>>150131967
>And why should we, the readers, care?
Anon, it's post-OMD
The only correct response is apathy. It will set your spirit free and allow you to heal.
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>>150132442
The Q&A segment turned frosty. People asked him about the stuff involving Kamala's death and it snowballed from there.
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>>150132410
They do like the fact that Paul makes people upset and angry, but they hate being made fun of. It makes them upset and angry.

That's why Paul failed and they're trying to play him off as a joke. Making him look like a prank gone wrong is the only way they can preserve their delusional image of themselves as alpha-nerds.
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>>150132449
Way ahead of you, I'm just utilizing the Socratic Method on anyone stupid enough to still give a shit. Still if USM isn't coming back I'm just going to keep on pirating their shit while mocking them online for ASM. I think they know they fucked up with Paul and Amazing is in a bad state, they need USM as some sort of release valve for fan anger now.
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>>150131583
>>150131938
Kainebros...we're safe from current Marvel editorial again.
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>>150131583
Did Peter drown in hobo piss or something?
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>>150132384
Peter is staying around though.
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>>150132462
>Alpha-Nerds.
I honestly don't see how they ever believed such a ridiculous notion in the first place. Even Hollywood is ashamed to be associated with such rabble, even if they are cut from the same filthy used cloth.
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>>150132503
>strums guitar
Texas legend has it that ol' Kaine is still out there, living his best life in Houston. Still scowling, all the time.
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>>150132577
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They should totally have the Spider-Man in aor be norman
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So where is Janine?
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"Ruining Peters brand" is a laughable concept considering Superior.
Otto fucking shot a guy in the head in that run, in case you forgot.
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>>150132577
Kaine pls come out of retirement and come pick up Ben. He's being edgy again.
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>>150132799
No, let him, he's better. When would BND Peter tell MJ to shove it after acting self-serving or get disgusted by Norman getting handsy while talking about Aunt May? Never. In fact, Norman's been his only supporting cast for three fucking years now.
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>>150131714
I'm convinced everything involving Ben is plots being dictated by Lowe. There's too much consistency in it between too many writers and every one of them seems to be done with the exact same purpose (making Ben an even more toxic character) that there's no way it's different writers all coming to the exact same conclusion and manner of executing it. The only really consistent part of them is Lowe and his openly declared hatred of Ben.
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>>150132198
Why? Ultimate Spider-Man is terrible too.
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>>150132908
Good guy Norman Osborn has lasted longer than Paul and MJ, somehow. And Paul somehow outlasted Clone Saga. We really need to keep bullying and make fun of Spider-Man editors.
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>>150132462
Ah, the Mortal Kombat method.

>come up with a character
>fans, for whatever reason valid or stupid, dislike the character
>"Haha, yeah we always hated him too. That's why we created him... as a joke. Haha..."
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>>150132999
>looks at ASM panel in the OP again, then looks back at this post, as my frown continues to deepen.
You're not tricking anyone you retarded fucking Polack.
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>>150133032
I hate current Spider-Man and I hate Ultimate. Bad books are bad so I just go back to reading '70s and '80s Spider-Man. I've gotten more enjoyment out of Wein's run than I have anything since Spencer got pushed off the book despite that supposedly being a mediocre run. Hammerhead's ghost is a better story than Chasm and the absolute snoozefest that is Hickman's bullshit.
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>>150133071
I'd say that Ultimate holds up pretty well, and actually is capable of getting people excited and interested. I think ditching the once a month timeskip per issue thing is going to make the biggest difference in the pacing issues.
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>>150133013
And best pal Norman was born IN ADVANCE as synergy to a show no one fucking watched.
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>>150133013
Decompression will continue until a year's worth of comics depict one day in Peter's life.
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>>150132459
Oh god I almost forgot. Yeah he deserved to get humbled after that shit.
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>>150131583
>I will make you proud Peter
>You're the son I never had
>Harry, who?
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>>150133124
You know who I blame for all of this? Polish people, like CB Cebulski and the child rapist, Gwenschizo
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>>150131583
Jesus fuck who keeps paying for this shit title?
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>>150131583
You guys predict everything perfectly god dammit. I was hoping you all were wrong.
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>>150132503
Why does Kaine act nothing like Peter? He should still be a nerd. Even if he's a failed clone, he's still Peter Parker

Ben had his differences, but was still fundamentally Peter.
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>>150133369
The interactions he had in his life changed him. Spidercide didn't act the same either to be fair
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>>150132384
I have no pity for him. If he wanted to stick around he should have raped Dylan, in the traditional Polish way.
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So at like what point do they just kill Peter and replace him with a random spider person? Because this isn’t normal
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>>150133568
They tried doing that with the original Clone Saga minus the killing part.
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>>150133568
they keep trying and failing. Miles isn't landing, Ultimate Spider-Man is their best selling comic... this leaves ASM Peter in a state of half-life and limbo, where they hate the man too much to let him live, but also need him to the point that they can't afford to allow him to die either.
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>>150132384
Should've been Carol
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>>150133668
I already made the joke that it should've been Paul :^)
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>>150132503
thank god
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Is All-New Venom #10 so uneventful that nothing got leaked from it? Ngl, I expected something from the last issue at least.
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>>150133776
Because it features marywh0re anon, chances are nobody is reading that thing.
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>>150133776
All-Slop Venom has completely bombed, nobody cares about it. Paul being the new Toxin isn't even good enough ragebait to move the needle.
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>>150133806
I'm SURE Paul is going to succeed as a solo character. I'm also delusional, Polish, but I DO NOT rape children
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>>150133806
>>150134026
All New Venom was doomed when Paul failed to fulfill his destiny by successfully molesting Dylan Brock.
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>>150134026
If you think about it, Paul's destiny was always to rape some respect into Dylan Brock, yet, he failed in his primary purpose with Dylan being too cagy and clever for him.
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>>150134079
>>150134039
Calling it now. Paul will be securing his place in the comics by molesting Miles Morales, or perhaps by raping another member of his family.
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>>150134114
You know who can remain important without having to molest ANYONE? That's right, Peter Parker! What's YOUR excuse Paul Rabin?!
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>>150131967
Peter was in a coma and not one of these parasites even bothered to check in on him. As character assassinated as Ben is now he was at least there checking in on Peter pretty much daily
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>>150133809
>spoiler
That was pretty predictable from the preview, so I'm not surprised
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>>150132985
That much is obvious, but I really have to wonder why? Of all of the various Spider-Adjacents from across the years, why does Ben make Lowe seethe that much? Why did Ben make him seethe to the point where Lowe greenlit him coming back from the dead as a villain, then also have him go through two other distinct heel turns? No one has ever liked any of this, but he keeps pushing it and I want to know why
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>>150133809
Why even bother? What's the point?
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>>150132134
>Norman's milking the most unearned redemption arc of all time though, and that's pretty hilarious
I think it's crazy that Lowe is presenting us a Norman vs Ben fight and expecting us to root for Norman. I wonder if they'll even acknowledge that Norman was the one who killed Ben in the first place
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>>150132799
Kaine saw that Ben was mentally ill and edgy and then just left
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>>150132656
Ben's been talking to her on the phone so she'll probably show up to bitch about how unfair life is or something
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>>150133568
Ever heard of a little comic called Ultimate Spider-Man? The original one
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>>150131583
It’s oddly commendable to see a Norman who's willing to impersonate Spider-Man to protect his identity, but someone seriously needs to sit him down give him a crash course in actual heroism. He’s got the menace down, sure, but he's all edge and zero chill. Its obvious the “friendly neighborhood” part is completely lost on him.
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>>150133809
Toxin: "What's that, new host? Genocides? You were trying to do WHAT with Dylan? OH MY GOD GET ME OUT OF HEEEERE"
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Are Spider-man fans trapped in the Omega Sanction, powerless to stop reading even as it gets progressively worse?
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>>150134669
Assuming his OG series characterization still exists, Toxin is basically a bratty kid.
Would Toxin roast Paul like Dylan does? Would Paul try to rape Toxin?
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>>150133774
Run for it Kaine.
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>>150134704
I don't buy this shit, I just pirate it and make fun of it online to bully and abuse the writers and editors. It seems to work, given we had to pry Paul out of the writers' cold dead hands and badger them into creating the wildly successful Ultimate Spider-Man as some kind of last ditch desperate release valve.
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>>150134278
It's because Lowe is still bitter that they tried to have Ben replace Peter in the 90s. I'm convinced that that's the entire reason he's tried so desperately to completely ruin Ben Reilly's character in the modern era and make everyone hate him. Fortunately though, all it's done is make people hate Lowe instead and he's clearly seething over that fact.
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>>150134712
Paul is already raping Toxin just by forcing him to bond to this disgusting parasite to survive. Poor Toxin...
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>>150134669
"I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT POLAND, PAUL! IT SOUNDS LIKE A SHITTY COUNTRY, FULL OF SHITTY PEOPLE!"
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>>150134768
Hopefully he'll channel some of that anger towards Paul, an utterly failed character, instead now!
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>>150131583
Romita needs to relearn how to draw the waves and the colorist needs to read a few wiki.
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Toxin should absolutely do this, but that would be too based for modern Marvel
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>>150134768
That can't be it though surely. Ben was dead and buried, almost memoryholed, but Lowe still allowed Slott to bring him back just to shit on him. And if Lowe had such an issue with other people being Spider-Man we wouldn't have the current state of the brand
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I can't believe demodokified george tarleton got plastic surgery to look like normal osborne
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>>150133809
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Flash Thompson is better off becoming the king in black instead of Eddie and making his personal Outer Heaven. Not whatever the fuck him and the symbiotes are cursedly written into doing.
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>>150131583
Is it me or are the ASM shills getting more and more hostile and defensive on Twitter? They seem upset about any criticism directed against ASM
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I can't believe Battleworld Carol Danvers is using their symbiote to impersonate Chasm
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>>150135019
They're marvel marketers seeing that just shit-canning Paul and Zeb Wells isn't enough to win people back or silence the critics.
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>>150134278
>Of all of the various Spider-Adjacents from across the years, why does Ben make Lowe seethe that much?
Clone Saga gets memed on as the story that destroyed Spider-Man and worst Spider-Man story ever and Ben was a failure when he replaced Peter thus in Lowe's mind Ben sucks and nobody should want to read anything with him. Even though the problems with the Clone Saga don't have much to do with Ben and the period immediately preceding it (Richard and Mary returning, Lifetheft, The Spider) and the pre-JMS Mackie/Byrne era are far worse.
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>>150134914
I am sure Lowe would love to get rid of all the others, except Miles, who he had a hand in creating. But at the end of the day it isn't his call to make. The comics are not the face of the brand any longer nor do they determine which direction it goes in.
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>>150132503
No he's not. Kaine didn't even have to be on-screen to die yet again for End of the Spider-Verse. Kaine could be getting fucked up this very moment and we'll have no idea until later on. Hell, the only reason he survived Curse of Kaine is because that book was so absolutely nothing that it didn't even warrant yet another Kaine total-jobbing.
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>>150135150
It's funny then that people are saying even worse shit about Lowe's stuff. Clearly we need to keep bullying him.
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>>150135150
I think OMD is the one that's regarded as the worst Spider-Man story ever. Clone Saga is definitely up there though.
>>150135410
I'm starting think he gets off to being bullied/humiliated is the thing.
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>>150135485
He didn't seem to be too happy when things turned ugly at New York Comic Con, and the little fuck has been avoiding public appearances after that.
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>>150135019
There are still ASM defenders? Kek
After 20 years of dog shit you’d think they would’ve come to a cold realization
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>>150131583
Absolutely based
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>>150131967
>Not even Peter's friends realize it's not Peter.

Peter acts weird and inconsistent all the time.
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>>150132134
>Norman's milking the most unearned redemption arc of all time though

What do you mean unearned? Since being purged he’s literally endlessly been helping out Peter and trying to be a better man. The guy is working harder to get some semblance of redemption than most villains who turn a new leaf
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>>150134663
Norman isn’t exactly a guy who knows how to be fun and chill.
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>>150131967
Peter’s friends are retards and couldn’t even realize that Peter was acting weird when Doc Ock took over his body. Even when Ock in Peter’s body shot a man in the head did they not notice anything weird.
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>>150133568
Lowe wants to kill off Peter and replace him with Mrs Morales. Permanently.

He can’t do it YET because he is afraid of the controversy.

He’s hoping Kevin Feige kills off Holland Peter and replaced him with live-action Miles as planned. The problem is that Sony is currently cockblocking Feige from using Miles for some reason so things are being held up.
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>>150134278
Because when they kill off 616 Peter Parker for good, fans will ask why Miles is becoming the main Spider-Man instead of Ben. They need to make Ben evil to prop up Miles. Same reason Peter is portrayed as a doofus that needs to be lectured by Miles every day.
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>>150131583
>>150131714
Whoa! Who could have seen this coming?!
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>>150134704
ASMfags eat up anything. Just like Batmanfags.
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>>150131583
kaine bros...
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>>150136533
>Lowe wants to kill off Peter and replace him with Mrs Morales.

Really? Sounds like Lowe is based as hell.
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>>150136563
The only one who's based here is the mocap who is also the voice actress of that character.
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>>150132577
How in the fuck is Kaine even a hero in Houston? The place barely got skyscrapers and you could probably see him walking around or using public transit or some shit.
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>>150136560
Better for him to be forgotten than to become part of this shitheap. Unfortunately, unless plans have changed since then, the end of the Chasm mini means it's he'll eventually get dragged down with everyone else.
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>>150136405
Exactly. Being Spider-Man did too much damage to his personal relationships of all time. He's past the point of no return, he just shouldn't bother with them anymore.

>>150136425
I feel that to truly feel convincing, it should come from a deeper and more internalized place, rather than 'getting shot in the face by a magic sin-eating shotgun that instantly cured my generational trauma.'
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>>150136636
Oh... he gets by.

But he still refuses to have fun, and that's what makes him based.
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>>150134341
>I think it's crazy that Lowe is presenting us a Norman vs Ben fight and expecting us to root for Norman.
I imagine Marvel editorial believe everyone hates Ben as much as them and everyone is still seething about the Clone Saga as if nothing bad has happened in Spider-Man comics since. They probably think it's just one vocal guy online who likes Ben.

>I wonder if they'll even acknowledge that Norman was the one who killed Ben in the first place
Ben already took revenge for that during Dark Web, how many times will we have to go through the same story? Given that Ben isn't dead anymore, and that regardless of how retarded the circumstances leading up to it were, Norman is genuinely trying to do good and redeem himself, they do need to sit down and work things out peacefully.
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>>150131583
lol what a shitshow. Could've been some good writing if spidey was kaine but we are back to shitpost tier
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>>150132230
GOBBED
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>>150131583
Wait remember when madame web predicted that if peter didn't trust norman he would go back to being goblin? And then he throws out norman to sin eater and it leads to good ending. Like wtf?
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>>150136902
>Ben already took revenge for that during Dark Web
Did he? I remember the Gold Goblin Dark Web stuff being more about Kafka than it was Ben
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>>150137011
It was early in the main Dark Web mini, not the Gold Goblin mini, IIRC. Ben had been impersonating Peter to gain access to Norman's lab and sabotaged all his tech and inflicted a beating on Norman. Ben took his revenge, and could've killed him then if he'd wanted to. Or at least tried to, Norman's pretty hard to kill.
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>>150133809
Rick Jones is the new Toxin. Paul doesn't even get that. No Symbiotes for Paul, because Paul Rabin is just a disgusting, alien parasite!
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>>150137341
So aside from being the Herald of Knull or something, there really is absolutely nothing left for Paul. If he doesn't somehow rape Dylan soon then... it's going to be all over for Paul, and Poland...
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>>150136636
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so should i read asm? is it funny at least?
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>>150137363
Fuck no lol
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>>150137363
Nah, it's a 5/10 run that some shills gaslit themselves into defending because 5/10 is still leagues better than Zeb Wells's run. I'd read Ultimate Spider-Man and just pirate or ignore everything else.
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>>150137350
They could reveal he's actually Peter and MJ's long lost baby.
They could have him start dating Miles.
They could still reveal he was the REAL original Hobgoblin, and Kingsley was just one of his dupes.
They could also make him the secret identity of Facade.
They could have him suddenly morb out and drink blood.
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>>150137341
Why the fuck is he dressing up as Bucky again
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>>150137371
5/10 doesn't sound bad for spider-man. I mean went through slott already
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>>150137395
Slott is somewhat better because he could occasionally scrape into 6/10 with shit like Spider Island.
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>>150137392
because Rick is the eternal sidekick
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>>150137389
So anyways, Paul pretty much has nothing left!
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>>150137341
Paul should be Sleeper's host, and kept as a mindless meat-puppet to eventually be devoured by Sleeper! Maybe the Polish guys here can go 'Sleeper no sleeping!' in desperation to keep Paul alive, but sorry Paulbros, Sleeper is gonna sleep!
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>>150137406
Well being a symbiote is space adjacent so can he go hang out with Genis again. One of the last things PAD did was set up some Rick and Genis shit and that hack Wong fucked it up immediately to shill her OC
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>>150137408
Nothing left but for Paul, Miles and Spider-Gwen to get a collective "I have to go now, my home planet needs me" scene, I guess.
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>>150137446
Spider-Gwen has to stay in Earth 616 to prevent the original Gwen Stacy from ever coming back. Like some sort of living barrier that's keeping that useless blonde whore dead.
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there are 5 gwens on earth
they're like the rings of power
wait, what if that's the long arc they're playing for
the one gwen to unite them all
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>>150137358
>Mfw they did a better "Edgy Spider-man" than Slottslop or muh Venom
>Ditch Kaine into the oblivion.
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>>150137462
So Gwenschizo hopes, but as long as the SUPERIOR SPIDER-GWEN endures, then we shall never ever see a second Gwen Stacy. We wouldn't want Spider-Gwen overshadowed, after all.
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>>150137467
Too many people like Yost's run, including Yost himself who says he would still love to write more. Editorial would rather scream and shit themselves. Pulling an Old Yeller on Paul is as much as we're going to get for a while.
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>>150137478
>including Yost himself who says he would still love to write more
Has Yost been put on anything since that Spider-Boy thing or was that a one off?
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>>150137478
RIP Paul too much of an embarrassing failure even for the people who gave us One More Day.
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>>150137529
Paul will NEVER rape Dylan for this disrespect! Suck it, Paulbros! Maybe if Paul is lucky, he can bond with sleeper instead!
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>>150137529
funny, there's 90% that dylan would be retconned out in the future
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>>150137341
Glad that Paul gets nothing but I still think we could have briefly had a moment like in >>150134669 and >>150134815 before they desperately try to scramble off to Dylan.
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>>150137453
Then she has to marry Norman and give him more children. It's the only way.
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>>150137544
Dylan endures because he was the one who molested Paul to keep relevant.
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>>150137546
Makes sense to me, all Gwens are basically whores.
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>>150131583
I preferred the old Norman
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>>150137529
Paul couldn't even endure 10 issues of getting even half the shit that Peter Parker does. And neither could Paul's fans. Pathetic.
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>>150137561
One kid insults his cooking and suddenly he turns into a domestic abuser and a budding child molester. Paul truly was the definition of entitlement (I'm using past tense here because, he's either becoming a villain or getting killed off soon)
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>>150131583
Withholding judgment until I’ve had a chance to read it.
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>Bloodlusted spider-man
>puppy Norman
tell me how it makes sense
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>>150137341
HOW DOES RICK JONES NOT HAVE GIGA CANCER FROM BEING LIKE 90 DIFFERENT SUPERHEREOS AT THIS POINT
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>>150137945
in the 80's and 90's Prof X figured it was his mutant ability allowing him to do what he does.
Thankfully its never been expanded on since and you can just throw Rick into anything and he'll be fine.
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>>150137824
Norman was rather violent at the start of Wells' run and under Cantwell, then they made him a softie to placate criticism and do the whole father figure spiel, then Kelly turned him sadistic again at the start of his run.
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>>150137341
So, who is Sleeper?
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>>150135875
I think that was the moment he realized that he's not in on any jokes and that people really hate him.
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>>150132503
But at what cost?
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>>150132384
Don’t worry Paul chads. He’s getting the Toxin symbiote
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>>150138464
No lmao >>150137341
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>>150137341
Where Sleeper at?
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>>150138469
Who is Sleeper now?
I guess it makes sense if Toxin was dying in the spot and needed a new host right away, so Sleeper gave up Rick.
But now who does Sleeper get?
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>>150138481
Shit bro, I don't know.
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>>150138491
Oh no.
Sleeper is going to Dylan is t her?
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>>150136902
>Ben already took revenge for that during Dark Web, how many times will we have to go through the same story?
Not really, he said he doesn't even know why he's doing it, just that he knows Norman is bad business. What a waste that whole ordeal was, you got a major victim around and you write fucking nothing with it.

I'm betting this run is ignoring their history again, even with Ben seemingly remembering OC the Childhood Friend when he shouldn't.
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Sex with Ben Reilly and Spider-Norman at the same time.
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>>150139076
Calm down Cindy, he's not even a totem, you slut.
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>>150137824
his suit is constantly making snapping sounds within so he could weaponize his Gwen autism
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>>150136698
Norman is someone who is constantly haunted by his old sins, it’s not as if he’s just magically fixed. His endless guilt and fear of slipping up is what makes it work.
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Who will be Sleeper or Paul?
Dylan or Paul?
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>>150137341
I really like the Bucky callback. Also it's about time Rick got powers again.
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>>150138481
Sleeper can be independent.
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>>150131714
The most boring route.
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Norman or Ben, who should fuck Black Cat?
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>>150139714
Miles
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>>150132503
I'm so glad Marvel keeps forgetting Kaine exists.
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>>150134765
>I don't buy this shit
You can always recoup money, you can't recoup time. Why even pirate something you hate and that only makes you feel angry?
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>>150136363
Yeah it's funny, but they're on Twitter and upset that people aren't giving the run a chance even though
1. Kelly already started his run with 8 Deaths and that was middling
2. The twist is basically a reiteration of things that happened again (villain stands-in as Spider-Man, Ben Reilly is a villain/antagonist)
3. The BND people had 17 years to prove themselves and earn the audience's trust, so at this point ASM defenders are basically Jay from RLM's Nerd Crew persona going "don't ask questions, just consume next product"
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>>150137341
>Rick Jones sidekick
>Kree/Skrull cosmic storyline
But actually it should have been Carol.
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>>150137341
Paul bros, what do we do now?
Is Sleeper our only hope?
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>>150140150
War Machine won’t allow a symbiote penetrating his woman.
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>>150140150
>Somehow Knull returned
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>>150140140
They are really on that "gotta have my Spider-man" grindset.
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>>150132410
If he's still doing shit like Chasm to Ben then Lowe needs another humiliation ritual and another Miles "by odin's fade" type scandal.
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>>150140140
Spider-man fanboys really love to wallow in their own spiteful hatred and inability to move on if they truly are so miserable
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>>150140520
Shut up, Nick. Do a better job.
lol captcha
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>>150140520
>Spider-man fanboys really love to wallow in their own spiteful hatred
>It's the fan's fault the writing is poor!
Uh-huh
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>>150136560
Kaine found Aracely, made up with Donald and Wally and is dating Annabelle again. He is finally at piece free of stupid fucking hero shit.
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>>150133369
Jackal made him wrong. As a joke
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>>150137945
They all cancel each other out
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>>150134704
Gotta have my Spidey
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>>150137945
Because that’s Rick’s super power
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>>150137389
sounds like marywh0retards fanfiction
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>>150131583
I’m torn here. Norman wearing the Spider Man suit might be a tough but learning experience for Osborn. Following Peter’s rules with no exceptions: no killing, minimal force, de-escalation of conflicts first, and protecting civilians even if it costs the win might be good for him. Fans have been wondering when sinless Norman might step up and do something. Well, maybe this is it. Learning Peter’s limits means feeling where Peter would stop or step back, like refusing revenge or illegal shortcuts, so those boundaries become muscle memory. It is still a lie, and that lie erodes trust because allies feel manipulated, start doubting what he says next, and question his motives. If he continues wearing the mask, his actions might appear borrowed rather than authentic, and that contradiction would be interesting. Attempting to choose those principles as his own, using his real name and voice, and accepting consequences when he falls short is a cool idea. He has already been Gold Goblin, so best move is to end this Spider Man phase soon then go back to his hero route with an improved mind sight and improved ethical rules stated publicly, and an renewed interest in breaking from old patterns, real oversight from allies besides Peter who shouldn't have to be the only person who can carry Norman's leash when he misbehaves and who can veto him when he does wrong. Guy needs a mission that is distinct from vigilantism, get focused on harm reduction, cleanup, and restitution instead of broad patrols and use that money for something worthwhile. It could even be fun if something he learns stays with him, even when he inevitably falls back into villainy. Might even give his black a whisper of gray.
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>>150140520
Sure thing, Marvel employee
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>>150140106
Because it upsets the people defending it
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>>150141982
That is so sad
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>>150131583
Norman went after Shocker in the Gold Goblin mini and he is doing it again now. What does the dude have against Herman???
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>>150142228
do the irish still hate the dutch/germans
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Remember, comics are irrelevant. The entire division only exists to keep people like Tom Brevoort from a position of actual power at Disney.
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>>150140472
I don't think he's going to be showing up in public anytime soon. He probably doesn't want to risk getting called a cuckold to his face.
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>>150137341
>No Symbiotes for Paul

He doesn't need one to become the Paultimate Spider-Paul.
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>>150142640
retard is now homeless in latest issue
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>>150140165
Maybe Sleeper can learn a valuable lesson about not killing his hosts, after he kills Paul and feels sort of bad about it. Paul should become Sleeper's enslaved and lobotomized meat-puppet, before being devoured!
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>>150141893
This is Paul's only hope, because otherwise the only options left are to be Knull's herald or being enslaved and devoured by Sleeper. He otherwise has no chance. You should be PRAYING for this fanfiction, my adorable little Paul Pedo!
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>>150142777
He should be sent back to his fake kids, in the fake kids dimension. Just reveal he's another construct of Wayep sustained solely by his relationship with MJ, and now that she doesn't give a shit anymore he fades out like his kids did.
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>>150143436
I think Carlos Gomez hinted at that happening soon.
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>>150143446
If you think about it, it makes sense that Paul is inhuman. He doesn't care about his dead kids, or his dead planet, but he's obsessed with Dylan Brock disliking him. Probably Dylan making fun of him is what's killing him, because it made MJ realize that she doesn't have to put up with him, thus causing the last chain that Ben Rabin put on her to fade... the chain that is Paul...
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>>150143436
I don't get it fellow Polacks. Isn't he supposed to be a gigachad? Why doesn't he just put MJ in her place and rape some respect into Dylan??? Why is he just bending over and taking it???
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>>150142568
Man I wonder if coining the word, "slowedown" and applying that to comics decompression will help us. Or just bad storytelling in general. Like making that a meme. Wonder if that would help at all with getting rid of this cuck.
>>150143446
He should also hint at She-VenoMJ and her having fat fucking titties and asscheeks.
Also I was at a comic book store today and this dumbass bitch employee was recommending MJ comics and she was saying ok stuff until she said MJ was in civil rights demonstrations and was an activist. I was confused and asked her where she saw that and she made up an ADHD excuse and then pulled out her phone to say in a 2018 book like issue 26 or something had her be one and I saw through that fucking lie but I considered the 1960's Randy stuff or some women's issue like the syndicate in Spencer's run but nah, that bitch just made up that shit. I was kinda stunlocked by that and I already paid, so I just left. Not worth correcting that bitch in front of her boss and all the other autists and fags who would get on her side.
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So the only bad thing to happen to mj was she dated paul???
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>>150143649
the nonstop character regression for the past 15yrs
same with Peter and Felicia
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>>150143649
Being forcibly joined at the hip to a Polish child molester is a fate worse than death. Look at Gwenschizo. I hope Paul kills himself, and that so will Gwenschizo.
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>>150143672
>>150143649
There's also what Wolfman did. And the whole miscarriage and plane explosion storylines in the 90's.
And the cheap shock value found in the zombies issues, Brubaker and those unfunny fake ads, Guggenheim saying she should get raped as a joke, and Slott writing her in general, alongside Superior issue 2. "Nuh uh, guys. That's not rape!"
That fat faggot doesn't even know what rape is but I guess he wouldn't know that. He's never had a nuanced relationship in his life and his writing shows.
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>>150131583
I feel like this is clearly going to lead into Norman descending back into villainy. He's going to go too far and Peter will have to fight him once he gets back.
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>>150143894
Damn you're a genius. Marvel should hire you.
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>>150139714
>Norman or Ben, who should fuck Black Cat?
Yes. The real question is "in a row or at the same time?" It could be a useful experience to help Ben and Norman get over the hostilities of their past history.
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>>150143920
To be fair, Marvel's just a bunch of smug faggots crowing about how people would never guess the twist in the OP, only to have it guessed by anons months ago.
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Bros I think I know why the Polish child rapist, Gwenschizo, isn't posting so much right now.
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>>150144275
The Polish Problem
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>>150143436
That's why he's going to replace Peter, to anchor himself in 616. Peter will be the one who is erased, he will be forgotten, and we will laugh as we shove your face in the mud and force you to eat worms!
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>>150142508
maryslutCucks are as stupid as usual
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>>150144077
I agree. I just felt like trolling anon a bit because we have put more thought into this than Marvel and we can guess this shit so easily and where Marvel takes their storylines that reiterating that again on here does get a bit tiring and anon saying such an obvious thing was something Marvel would do.
I guess I was being redundant as well and any opportunity to dunk on Marvel will be taken. Maybe I should take a break from these threads. It's getting bleak.
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>>150143436
Paul isn't getting anything interesting, he's just gonna meander around the comics until he eventually gets forgotten

>>150131991
It's Peter's fault for still willingly associating with people so brain dead and unreliable
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>>150144357
>A wild Polish GwenFAG has appeared.
You are irrelevant. Just like the comics you shill for.
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>>150142508
>a cheating whore
no thanks, keep her for yourself
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>>150144577
>Posting fanfiction written by a divorced cuckold.
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>>150144420
Ah, like Carlie Cooper or Shay Marken.
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>>150144577
Paul’s going byebye. He’s getting erased, hehe.
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What's this about Lowe and comic con? is there a video of it?
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>>150145131
So… what were Paul’s kids’ names? I’m still really vague on that.
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>>150145214
There are a few articles summarizing it, it was definitely a black eye for him and made him look bad.

https://crustyoldfan.substack.com/p/the-nycc-spider-man-panel-debacle
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>>150145249
>From what I’ve read, fans audibly groaned when Nick Lowe was introduced.
lmao
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So now that the dust has more or less settled and Paul is officially in comic book character hospice, here for a cameo or two before he disappears completely… what did we think about Paul? I mean really think about him?

I can’t help but feel Paul was Zeb’s creator breakdown induced attempt to process his own divorce by making it everyone else’s problem instead of seeing a therapist or health coach or social worker or something.
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>>150145585
He's a pretty cool guy, hope he sticks around.
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>>150145585
Isn't that the same thing Quesda did with OMD?
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>>150136636
Would Jersey or Newark work better for Kaine? have him closer to NY so he can show up more? (I am not a burger so idk)
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>>150145746
I think you missed the boat there buddy, you had all of three years to do something with him. It’s still weird that he stuck around for so long while contributing so very little.

>>150145757
Yes, though in his case it was his dad’s death and him not wanting Peter to grow up and move on because he didn’t want to grow up and move on. He also put a blanket ban on characters smoking because his dad died from lung cancer, even for Nick Fury or Wolverine. I can’t help but feel that is Quesada was less embarrassing his dad would have loved him more and would have decided to live longer.
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>>150131714
right panel is kinda cool desu, if only ben was just wearing a symbiote and not being a top 3 worst spidey villain of all time
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>>150145817
He should go back to Texas now that MC2 Peter has The Other.
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>>150145919
>now that MC2 Peter has The Other.
When did that happen? Why does he have it when he has a decent enough?
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>>150145932
He was killed in the first Spider-Verse, during which Kaine lost it. Eventually, at the end of Spidergeddon, it resurrected MC2 Peter, turning him into a giant man-spider. This mutation was eventually suppressed thanks to some help from 616 Anya Corazon.
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>>150145988
And now, not only does MC2 Peter possess The Other, but he also got his leg back.
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>>150145988
Oh, I got tired of that Spider-Verse shit since it was so bad. Never got more than a few issues in.
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>>150145988
>He was killed in the first Spider-Verse
What was the point of allowing this to happen into the first place to a character that is modeled after Steven Seagal who rarely dies/gets harmed in his movies?
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>>150146066
Because Dan Slott wanted to make people angry.
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>>150146066
Shock value. Like this
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>>150145131
>>150144577
she already jumped to venom's cock
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>>150146354
And Venom wants to jump on Peter's cock! Sorry Paul, you get NOTHING.
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>>150146354
You can't disprove Peter isn't in there.
Try translating that double negative.
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>>150145585
As a device I think he served his purpose well. He exists solely to temporarily cockblock Peter out of his relationship with MJ and he does that well as this has been going on for 3 years now.
But he's just a device and once they figure out another way to keep Peter cockblocked from MJ they'll toss Paul aside because he's no longer needed, which is already happening because of Ben and Norman taking over Peter and "Spider-Man's" lives

As a character he's bland and boring. He's suppose to be a super genius but it's superficial as it's treated more like a convenience quirk than anything else. He's a very whiny sensitive man who gets pressed by someone else's son that he's raising. He's also a weird sociopath who seemingly only cares about his own interest, sort of going on the idea that he's being the morale correct one at any given time. I don't think these are things that weren't intended so there's virtually no chance they'll be delved into deeper
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>>150134768
Imagine the amount of vitriol you'd have to feel for a fictional character to go out of your way to put them through the ringer, rather than just kill them off or retire them like Marvel used to do.
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>>150146723
I imagine their hatred of the characters stem from the fact that they ended up in a dead end job with no hope of upward mobility into Hollywood. They are trapped and too retarded to just quit.
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Is Paul just going to be an awkward "Im still here!" character from here on out?
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>>150146790
If this used to be mine, I’d stick around longer too.
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>>150134768
He's the perfect distillation of modern comics and their problems being far worse than the 90's comics and their problems. They thought that was the dark age but now everyone is agreeing the 00's and onward are shit.
Miles is also their baby and Ben shits all over him in being a potential replacement for Peter.
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>>150131583
>JRJR
God damn it.
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You guys want to hear something wild? Spider-Man, starting from the run we all hate, is on fucking Webtoons right now. WEBTOONS.
>https://www.webtoons.com/en/graphic-novel/the-amazing-spider-man-2022/list?title_no=8475
Like, is this official Marvel desperate to get people to read this shit, or is it like some rando who for whatever reason posted it on Webtoons and the site is just that shit at monitoring what's posted?
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>>150146928
I have no idea what that is, but looking at the homepage it seems like smelly fujo central.
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>>150146928
Oh yeah the webtoons shit lol I be seeing the the ads on youtube
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>>150146922
He used to be one of the great Norman artists, too.
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>>150146984
Webtoons is basically just a hosting website for various web comic creators. Guys like Erma, Mona, etc etc. But yeah I would assume there's blatant fetish bait nonsense and low quality shit too.

But the question remains; why the FUCK is Marvel's Spider-Man on there??
>>150147011
Is this something Marvel is just doing or did someone just rip the digital pages?
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>>150147034
https://youtube.com/shorts/bxDb06b15aY?si=46-05jH1JoL1GRBt
It’s something marvel is doing they’re tryna promote their comics in honesty in my personal opinion they should’ve gone with the ultimate line or classic era
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>>150147078
.........AND THEY FUCKING START WITH THE 2022 RUN FEATURING PAUL!?!?! See between this and never printing the classic stuff/omnis, they really just fucking suck at raking in new readers
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>>150147034
>Is this something Marvel is just doing or did someone just rip the digital pages?
Something Marvel is doing to promo their books. DC made a webtoon as well like 2yrs back.
DC was smart about it though and they made it about the Batfamily in SoL situations.

Throwing the Spider-Cuck arc onto the site was dumb. Should've done an actual Spiderfamily-verse thing but its AU family shenanigans with Uncle Ben Reilly and Kaine showing up alongside other Peters and versions.
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>>150147078
>fan favorite
lol lmao even
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>>150147133
>those fingers
Oh no, not Belle as a Spider-Girl too!
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>>150147133
>top 4 are all Disney
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>>150131583
Man, Norman literally had Peter's baby killed and/or kidnapped, I just can't get into good Norman so long as that's never addressed.
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Can we just go back to regular Green Goblin please? I yearn for the simpler times when Norman just wanted to make Peter's life a living hell, while Peter wonders how he'll take down his greatest enemy shielded by a corporation and millions of dollars atop an ivory tower
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>>150147185
Yeah the whole thing is gross.
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>>150146928
>Slapping the Paul comics on Webtoons knowing everyone hates it instead of putting anything else up there instead
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>>150147185
Way I see this, Chasm is the personification of Peter's continuity and personality as villain to be slain. He's right there acting as Peter should, a walking reminder of how twisted everything is, and for that he must be slain. They're even doing the Order of the Loweb dance again in #12, even if it's Norman on the receiving end.
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>>150144275
CEOs are getting too comfortable again. We need to start shooting them.
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>>150147349
I can't belive this shit, they genuinely think anyone would feel bad for Norman?
>>150147331
Why is TF2 so reddit?
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>>150131583
The Spider-Office is composed of petty, immature, selfish, stupid GHOULS.

This has to be one of the dumbest ideas they shat out, and would have been eons better if this. Was. HARRY. MOTHERFUCKING. OSBORN.

When they announce the ASM/Venom(/Carnage?) crossover at NYCC, I'm gonna laugh my head off if the reactions are worse than tepid.

Fuck them so hard. I hope Disney fires them when they crunch the numbers.
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>>150148050
>they genuinely think anyone would feel bad for Norman?
Since Marvel themselves act like Gwen's death is the only bad thing he was involved in that even matters, and most of us aren't still hung up on that.
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>>150148050
“Feel bad” isn’t quite the word. The way Peter shrugs off Norman is meant to hint at something deeper being wrong. And to be honest, that’s fair. Ever since his identity was first revealed, Peter has always been tethered to Norman, no matter how bitter the conflict.
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>>150146928
>Like, is this official Marvel desperate to get people to read this shit, or is it like some rando who for whatever reason posted it on Webtoons and the site is just that shit at monitoring what's posted?


It's official Marvel. They're planning on putting up Hickman's Avengers as well.

I suspect Brevoort, Lowe, and the others are getting assmad at the reception so they're trying to double down. If it turns out that it's true current ASM is only getting 45,000 orders then it's not going to help them
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**Paul is looking for apartment in All-new venom 10**
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|| Paul is looking for apartment in All-new venom ||
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[spoilers]
Paul is looking for new apartment
[/spoilers]
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>>150131583
ASM is a shitpost. Has been for years now.
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>>150149989
Pretty much. I do like reading Zarius’ little fixits on ao3 where she punches it up to be more sensible.
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>>150149922
>>150149906
>Muhfuggin Marywhores
>Norman, dear, who is this strange homeless man?
>Oh, don't mind him Gwen. That's just Paul Rabin.
>Maryslutfags
>What's wrong with this poor man?
>Hm? Oh, some breakup he never got over. He's just been living like some sort of homeless schizophrenic.
>That poor man...
>Don't pity him too much, my dear. He's from Poland, and he even tried to molest Eddie Brock's son. Now come on, it's almost time for Peter and Mary Jane's anniversary.
>WHORES! WHORES! WHOOOORES!
>Yes, I do think we better get going. What an awful creature.
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>>150149906
>>150149922
>>150149947
So it's confirmed then. MJ was the one paying all the bills for this useless leech.
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>>150131714
I hate everything they're doing with Ben but I love the Chasm suit. The unit 01 color scheme works well for it. Every single suit Ben Riley has ever put on is a 100/10 and damn if I'm not happy about it.
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>>150147259
That's played out and boring. Now a villain trying to be a heroic character? That's fresh.
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>>150150530
I still think that, to mean anything and to actually be in any way compelling, it has to come from within Norman himself, not 'I got blasted in the face by a magic shotgun'
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>>150131967
they didnt care when otto was in the drivers seat either. spider man has terrible friends
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>>150150548
Yeah, it’s another in a long line of contrivances that have made up these past near 20yrs of post OMD stories
Nothing feels earned or as part of a natural process of development
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>>150147896
Just start up tours to the Titanic again. Or sell them more Cyber Trucks and vacations near bodies of water.
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>>150144577
she'll make a threesome will 38 inches of Venom and Paul
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>>150151441
Paul's going to be a homeless and impoverished schizo from now on, I'm afraid. From top of the world to basically this.
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>>150151594
Maybe if he's lucky, Paul can still rape Dylan Brock! I still believe!
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>>150151680
If he doesn't, then Poland's CRI (Child Rape Index) is going to plummet, and the Gwenschizo will end up homeless and having to kill himself.
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For webtoonbros who are reading this do not hesitate to give this comic the Wind Breaker treatment. Point out all the plagiarisms in your social media. Look up Greg Land and his wrongdoings. Do not let Marvel employees drag down the quality of Webtoon with them.
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>>150131583
It's time to start reading back issues. Where's a good place to start if you want to get in to 80s Spider-man?
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>>150134704
Will you consider Webtoon readers as "Spider-man fans" when picrel happens to Marvel comics because of Marvel employee's incompetency? Let's find out. >>150151879
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>>150152126
Stern's run which leads straight into DeFalco's
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>>150131583
Kaine's "redemption" is the most infuriating thing Marvel has ever done, guy was a legit psychopath and rabid animal that should have been put down. The wrong clone lived.
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>>150152541
Are you stupid? All clones died multiple times. Kaine died on Clone Saga, Grim Hunt and on his Scarlet Spider book. He's the Jean Grey of the Parker clones.
Ben Reilly died at least 30 times according to current canon, got his memory wiped and have no problems on killing people.
Modern Marvel editorial is dumb because they turned Ben into OG Kaine and Kaine into nothing, because thank god they forget he exists.

Saying the wrong clone lived doesn't mean shit nowadays that they're all back, including Spidercide and Gwen Stacy. They need to tell good stories with them, but that's asking too much apparently.
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>>150150548
I think the shotgun bit is fascinating but they need to lean more in to the horror aspect of this plot. It's genuinely creepy how different Norman is if a person thinks about it.
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>>150152541
Kaine surviving and trying to atone and live up to Ben's memory is based
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>>150152638
>and Gwen Stacy
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>>150152751
her mutant ability is regenerating headbands
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>>150150506
his Jackal attire isn't that great though
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Fuck Gwen. Fuck MJ. Fuck Felicia. I just want Peter to get happy ending with one woman that genuinely loves him. Write him out of the story and have him retire with his new loving wife so Miles Morales can be new Peter Darker or whatever, I just want my boy Peter to be happy. Is that too much to ask?
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>>150152919
NTA but yes, it was great
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>>150153162
You had your chance in the 90s and you forsook Ben.
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>>150153162
>Is that too much to ask?
>*gestures at long list of what editorial has done to spider-man and peter parker*
apparently
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>>150153162
That’s why Shay was created.
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>>150153553
sexo
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>>150153553
>Shay
>genuinely loves him
Like Paul, she exists purely to keep Peter and MJ apart. Unlike Paul, her origin and role in the story are harmlessly bland. She's as blatant a temporary love interest as you can get.
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>>150153162
>Pretends to care about Peter
>Wants Miles to replace him
Fuck off. Peter can be happy without retiring, he literally just needs MJ.
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>>150153898
At this point everyone in Peters life pretends to care about him. Look at how he’s been replaced like 3 times now and no one has noticed
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>>150153898
>Peter can be happy without retiring, he literally just needs MJ
Last 18 years of ASM disagree with you there. I unironically wish Peter had been allowed to retire with MJ during Clone Saga, them fucking off to have life together in Portland would have been better than the retarded sloppa we've been fed since early 00s. MJ has been ruined beyond hope of repair and editorial exists to shit on Peter and clearly wishes to replace him, why would you wish more humiliation conga upon him? Kill Miles for all I care and make Ben Reilly, Gwen Stacy or Spider-ham the new mainline Spiderman or whatever, just let Peter retire in peace with some love interest of his so he doesn't get humiliated in every new issue
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>>150152919
Nah its pretty great. I guess his one Scarlet Spider suit was kind of weak but I still think it was good.
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>>150131714
I wonder if Marvel wasn't so intent on trying to force it's characters into ongoing's and instead just gave some of their characters mini-series would Ben be able to just be Spider-man instead of a villain.
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>>150131583
>>150131714
Well, it was obvious "Peter" had to be Ben, but I didn't expect Norman (of all people) would be Spider-Man.

What I don't get is... If Norman knows Peter is missing and Ben has stolen his identity, why doesn't he warns Peter's friends and Spider-Man's allies?

>>150140150
Where does this scan come from? Are there more?
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>>150154251
>If Norman knows Peter is missing and Ben has stolen his identity, why doesn't he warns Peter's friends and Spider-Man's allies?
Norman is the only one among Peter's supporting cast to have an excuse for this since as sociopath he's not that great at being a do-gooder. Contrast that to someone like MJ who can't apparently spot anything wrong with "Peter".
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>>150143436
>hey Paul did you hear that this Knull guy is coming back? he sounds pretty cool, you should definitely join him and make your father proud
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Guys I haven't followed Spider-man for a while. Did Peter die and/or get trapped somewhere again?
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>>150137561
Did Paul have fans aside from shitposters?
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it's time to end this thread oh how you will truly suffer now spider fags.
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@150154529
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>>150154326
I think its Marble's subtle way of saying MJ no longer has that connection with Peter and simply can't tell anymore
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>>150154566
how so has not not ben reilly now take over peter parker's life oh and if you think peter will get hisd life back then you be wrong dead wrong now and fiorever Ben Reilly IS peter parker the end
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>>150131583
>Norman
Who?
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>>150154665
I am sure this just temporary there is no way Norman will remain Spider-Man for long I am sure he will srcew up just like Otto did superior spider man my butt.
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>>150145757
I thought he put his energi into Sam Nova
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>thread hits 300 replies and nobody is arguing with him so the schizo results to spamming a comic nobody cares about to kill the thread instead of just letting it hit page 10 like a normal person
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>>150154848
He also keeps bumping his dead Spider-Gwen thread
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>>150154848
you idiots never let it hit page 10 you just keep going untill you reach the bump limit.
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>>150155001
she is dead but ar peace just one word for you clones you are in for it now go figure.
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I don't understand what's even going on anymore
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>>150155016
>at peace
Consult to your mascot here in picrel >>150152751
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>>150155300
The Polish Child Molester, Gwenschizo, is having a temper tantrum. Here, I'll screw with him by making a different thread.
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>>150155300
>I don't understand what's even going on anymore
Is it not obvious they are doing the clone saga again,
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>>150155340
Hey, good look trying to turd up two different threads simultaneously, you weird fatass pedophle!
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>>150155310
the spoilers for this have already been posted twice in two threads. Risk making another one and the mods may see it as spam and flooding and thus your thread gets deleted. Besides this one is not even the archives yet.
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>>150155393
Too late, I made the thread. Now mash the report button with your fat fingers. Cry and scream and shit your pants, you ugly little Polish rat! The Jannies aren't going to do anything, because this one is an ASM spoilers thread and that one is a Spider-Man General thread. Oh, and, annoy me a third time and I'll make a third thread for Ultimate. Sorry faggot, you got rolled!
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>>150155393
He's genuinely shitting himself and not knowing which thread to spam in lol.
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>>150155477
He'll freak out and then try to spitefully spam about five or six more threads and blame it on us, because that's how it usually goes in the Polish Pedophile Playbook. That's when we need to report him, and he usually eats a ban for a couple of days before he slithers back in via a paid VPN.
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>>150155429
By doing so you have handed me that thread to me on a on a silver platter I will just storytime the clone saga there all six issues. Oh and this thread only has 130 replys left. so you can't make another one without getting into trouble and besides it won't take that long for this one to him the bumpo limit anyway thus you lose.
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>>150155502
Oh okay, enjoy staying awake for eight hours posting the clone saga. By the way, because you were a little faggot earlier, I'm making an Ultimate Universe thread now where we'll just so happen to talk about Ultimate Spider-Man there too.
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>>150155523
eight hours of posting are you nuts lol am not that stupid.
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>>150155560
Oh hey, so I just so happened to make a thread where people can talk about Ultimate Marvel, including but not limited to Ultimate Spider-Man. Just in case anyone wants to join in and have a good time about a topic unrelated to this thread, and thus completely fine as far as the moderators are concerned, for any of our local Polish fascists.
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>>150131583
I'm actually okay with this as long as people realize it's not Peter. It should not be so easy for this guy to get impersonated.
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>>150155579
You are that stupid. You're exactly that stupid and I'm fucking your ass for it. Feel free to mash report, it won't do anything.
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>>150155300
Our usual shitposter is just doing whatever he can to rile people up. I wish I could say that he stopped because he realised the comic he was about to dump isn't utter dogshit, but he always loses focus and stops and resumes his meltdowns on a whim.
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>>150155581
gettting desprate for attention are we all they did was talk in in that one and besides the next one does not come out untill next month *yawn* you are a bore
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>>150155659
He's stretched thin behind three vaguely related threads and reduced to bleating how we're not allowed to do this even though the jannies barely give a shit. Just hop on to another thread whenever he gets hyperfixated on another one. Oh and when this thread hits bump limit I'll immediately make a fresh one. I don't need to wait for it to fall off into archives at all, he just thinks I have to do that for some reason.
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>>150155590
It's as if the writers assume we're roughly as retarded as Gwenschizo or something.
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>>150155682
>Oh and when this thread hits bump limit I'll immediately make a fresh one
make to many threads of the same risk getting banned for spam and flooding have a nice day
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>>150155745
Oh okay you too have a nice day. I appreciate the concern but I think I'll be completely fine and the jannies won't care. Feel free to keep hitting the report button or just ignoring the thread or just hug yourself while whistling, whatever you need to do to self-soothe. God bless.
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>>150154350
Nobody knows
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>>150151594
>stuck with a cheating cunt and that ugly eddie's spawn
>top of the world
kek
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>>150154350
He's currently stuck on another planet, and has been gone for at least two weeks. So far, the only ones who seem to have noticed his absence are his former nemesis and his mentally ill clone.
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>>150155876
Oh don't worry friend, Paul's a free man soon, and finding his OWN place to live. Despite having no US Citizenship, no form of ID, basically stateless, and no legitimate means of earning an income while having no 'family' to sponge off.
Yessir, the future's surely looking bright for old Paul Rabin with nobody to hold him back. Finally, he'll flourish as a SOLO character. I'm sure his comics will sell, sell, sell!
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>>150152193
>Literally Hoo
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>>150134834
Paul is the future
Send him to the DCU where he can destroy relationships there
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>>150155977
>comic rapefugee asking who the native is
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>>150156000
>Oh hey Terry!
>W-who's T-Terry? I'm P-P-Paul!
>Oh shit guys, look! Terry came crawling back! Haha, what a creep
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>>150156034
All Terry Long needs is a manbun and black hair dye and bam, he's Paul's twin, hahaha.
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>>150153553
Literal nuisance created just to keep Felicia and Peter separate or "separate enough".
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>>150156034
Could THIS be Paul's eventual fate too???
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>>150156054
no.
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>>150156079
Paul is going to meet the same fate as his father, Terry Long...
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>>150156095
No way.
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>>150156103
What's left for the scraggle bearded fuck. No fake kids. No supervillain dad. No MJ. No Symbiotes. Not even Dylan. Not even a job, or a house, at this point.

He's got nothing left. His story is done. It's over. Nothing to do but ride off into the sunset... straight into hell.
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Why do Peter's villains want to be him so badly?
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>>150156158
They hate him because they ain't him.
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>>150156148
Paul's story is pretty much over, yeah...
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>>150156189
he is not gone retard.
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>>150156273
Okay, what's he going to do in the Spider-Man comics from here on out? He doesn't even have Dylan to yell at. He's got nothing to do with anybody in the comic. Is he going to become a supervillain ala Terry Long, then?
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>>150156300
He's not Jackpot's guy in the chair, he has no connections to this Earth outside of MJ and Dylan, and he's got no superhero identity to shoehorn himself with. Paul's basically got no story or conflicts left. He might end up as a wacky cameo or the butt of a joke every now and then, much like Terry Long himself.
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>>150156300
Deadpool's butler
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>>150155965
If you really wanted to make Paul Rabin a character that can make occasional appearances just have him show up as some fed glowie who sold his Glyph tech shit to some underground organization for a mint. It's not like they'd care where he got it from or who he is, then he can become sort jobber villain that no one takes seriously who gets worked by every hero who comes his way
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>>150156348
More like Deadpool's fucktoy.
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>>150156360
Right, but, he's not even doing that. We thought he was tied up with Madam Masque and that's how she mind controlled people during Gang War, but, no. He's even more boring than that. Without MJ, he's got no role in the plot. MJ is around because she's Spider-Man's love interest, and therefore Paul has to hover around despite having nothing else to contribute.

Without MJ, he's apparently nothing. He's nobody now, and he's got nothing to do. He's just going to fade out into limbo, I guess. A more metaphorical take on the death of his fake children.
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>>150156418
If he had his fake kids or MJ, or hell, even if Ben Rabin were still alive and fighting Spider-Man, he'd have *some* role in the story. Now he has nothing. Now he's just condemned to wander silently, forgotten, with neither purpose, nor penis. Cockless and condemned. Despairing, and dickless. Fucked over and unable to fuck...
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>>150156418
100% this. From now on, expect Paul to:
>Fade into oblivion and never be mentioned again, only as a inside joke here and there.
>Get retconned just like Gwen and Norman's children to further salvage Peter and MJ's relationship as we get closer to ASM#1000 endgame.
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>>150156487
My suspicion is that they had bigger plans for Paul when they first wrote him, but the backlash was such that they needed to get rid of him. They just couldn't do it right away because they made him too integral to MJ's status quo for the story, so Paul was left sitting around and hovering near MJ with absolutely nothing to do before finally getting shitcanned.
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>>150156418
Just have to wait and see. Personally I wouldn't bring Paul back at all and pretend he never happened but chances are he'll be referenced and brought back by someone in the future, either to be killed off as a joke or revealed to be some villain once Editorial needs a reason to cockblock Peter again
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>>150156552
It's not like anyone gives a shit about Peter's exes like Carlie Cooper or Michelle Gonzalez, or MJ's other exes like Bobby Carr or Pedro. Paul's just going to be sent to the fake kids dimension. He'll start to fade away over the next few issues before disappearing, and then he'll be every bit as verboten as clones for Clone Saga before being brought back as a joke. But unlike Ben Reilly or Kaine Parker, Paul just doesn't have enough to get the 'mistakes into miracles' treatment like Ben or Kaine.

No wonder Gwenschizo's losing his mind. We're witnessing the death of his identity, here.
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>>150156273
Hey Gwenschizo, you okay? You just suddenly dropped out for a second. Did you fade out, just like poor old Paul?
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>>150156300
After the fake kids disappeared and his dad was defeated for good, Paul lost all role in the story. Making him MJ's guy in the chair, however contrived, was a cheap excuse to have him hover around and have something approaching a point. As anons rightfully pointed out many months ago, MJ throwing away Jackpot was the same as MJ throwing away Paul.
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>>150156651
fuck off.
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>>150154045
>Last 18 years of ASM disagree with you there
As if anything post-OMD had any worth.
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>>150156687
brudny pedofil
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>>150156677
We ain't ever seeing Rek-Rap again, and Sinless Norman is Nick Lowe's baby. What legacy does Zeb Wells have left, for now? Chasm? Except Chasm apparently regained all of Peter's memories off-screen, because nothing seems to be scrambled in his head. He's even reliving Peter's childhood memories and is able to fool everyone.
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>>150156854
The only thing remotely salvageable about Chasm is his costume and that was all Gleason
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>>150157043
What if Paul becomes Chasm 2.0.

>W-without MJ and my kids... I am empty... like a Chasm...

He could become obsessed with raping Dylan to regain his life and his place in the world, how about that?
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>>150156720
english only here
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>>150157063
I could finally self insert as Paul then
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>>150156854
Sinless Norman may lead to some good stories, but we all know is not permanent, just like Superior Spider-Man. Ben Reilly's Chasm era is stupid for so many reasons, we just saw a bad Ben in Clone Conspiracy, no need to make him evil Spider-Man too. We had Venom, then Carnage, then Spidercide, then Ezekiel, etc. to fill that role and it never was as good as Venom.

To salvage Chasm's wild ride I'd make him go after Beyond, not after Peter. It is also so stupid the whole plot of feeling empty without memories, just visit Dr. Strange, Reed Richards or any telepath in current Marvel and the whole purpose of this villain is undone. It is not like Peter was living the best time of his life, he's always getting screwed over. Proof of that is that Ben has a better love life than Peter, already living with the love of his life.
Modern Marvel editorial never read a Ben Reilly story or else they would know Reilly doesn't give two shits about Peter's memories. But if Beyond took away his Lost Years memories, that'd be a whole different story...
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>>150157104
Ah, sorry. Gwenschizo sometimes likes to shitpost in Polish for some fucking reason. His grammar was far better too, he's clearly only fluent in Polish.
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>>150157175
you have no proof of that.
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>>150157199
I speak Polish. His Polish is far, far better than his English is. Just because he's a gullible idiot doesn't mean everyone else is!
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>>150157223
He is not a idiot but you are.
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>>150131583
At this point, does anyone actually cares about main 616 spider-man? because I'm sure as hell don't since 2010.
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>>150157264
Nobody cares about USM either if that makes you feel better.
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>>150157287
I care, but I'm not a Polish child rapist.
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>>150157248
No no, in English you say "he is not AN idiot." Because idiot starts with a vowel. You only use 'a' before words that begin with consonants in English, with if it because a, e, i, o, or u then you use 'an.' You're a complete fucking idiot, stick to Polish.
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>schizo is literally jannie'd
>childrapistschizo continues to bring up their favorite topic
spider man threads never fail to deliver new retards every week
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>>150157345
Gwenschizo's still here, he has a VPN >>150157199 >>150157248
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>>150157301
not a rapist and you can't prove I am polish.
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>>150157369
>cant recognize when youre being baited into replying to someone roleplaying as the schizo
ngmi
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>>150157377
I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about how Polish child rapists wouldn't care about USM! I wasn't insulting anybody!

Jeez, why are Polish people so angry, and so hateful?
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>>150157396
Well, we'll know for sure if he starts storytiming. This is still funny for me either way, so I get what I want.
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>>150157409
>its funny being a nuisance and contributing to the garbage that is spider-man threads
ngmi
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>White Spiderman
>Black Spiderman
>Indian Spiderman
>Pig Spiderman
>Gwen Spiderman
>Symbiote Spiderman
>Symbiote Spiderman but red
>Symbiote Spiderman but Gwen
>Spiderman noir
>Iron Spiderman
>Punk Spiderman
>Future Spiderman
>Mech-suit Spiderman
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>>150157425
>Cat Spiderman
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>>150157400
no polish people here.
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>>150157423
>its funny being a nuisance and contributing to the garbage that is spider-man threads
Yes
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>>150157449
I am Polish. I tricked you.
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>>150157469
no tricks here.
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>>150157264
I dont know why ultimate is involved in this, but i heard is no so much of a bigger upgrade either.
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>>150157470
He was Chasm since the start
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>>150157486
Yeah, he's slithered back in via a VPN or just driving to the mall and using the wifi there. Welcome back, Gwenschizo. I'm going to make a new thread to discuss the leaks again once we get to 500 posts. Stay awake now.
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>>150157515
Don't we alerady have a new thread you made it yourself retard

>>150155340
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>>150157550
Yeah, I'm going to make another one once this one hits bump limit to bully you and humiliate you more. I checked with the moderators and, yes, you are allowed to make a new thread once the old one hits bump limit. I don't need to wait until it gets to the archives. So I'm going to make a new thread as soon as you spam this thread to 500, right away. Because you're behaving like a bitch, and bitches have to be punished. Sorry.
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>>150157573
expect that one has hit the bump limit yet so...
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>>150157642
42 posts until this thread hits the bump limit. Well, 41 now. Keep it up. New spoiler discussion thread will be here in an hour or two at most, lol. You fucked around and you'll find out.
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>>150157573
>Yeah, I'm going to make another one once this one hits bump limit to bully you and humiliate you more. I checked with the moderators and, yes, you are allowed to make a new thread once the old one hits bump limit. I don't need to wait until it gets to the archives.
oh but you do need to wait until gets in archive. people have been foolish enough to make threads in the past and this got them banned.
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>>150157666
No, I don't. That's just your delusion. Let's just let this thread get to 500, and I'll make a new thread right away. Feel free to report if you want, it won't do anything.
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>>150157694
Yes it will keep spamming/flooding the board with threads then soon or later the mods will get pissed and thus you get banned for it.
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>>150157730
I already made three threads and nothing's happened so far. I don't think anything will happen later on, I'm not breaking any rules.
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>>150157748
>I already made three threads and nothing's happened so far.
Oh I am sure you slip sooner or later idiots like think you a god or king or the world.
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>>150157798
No, you really should just stop assuming that just because you're retarded, everyone else is. 35 posts remaining.
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>>150157820
And nobody cares now cry me a river.
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>>150157824
Keep it up, new thread in less than an hour.
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>>150157844
For some reason, you care a lot. You care the most about something completely stupid, so, you're not going to get it. You'll have to stay up all night if you want to shut out everyone else's conversations. So go ahead. Go ahead and stay up all night. New thread soon.
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>>150157845
new thread already exists.
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>>150157859
No no, that's a Spider-Man General thread. The next thread will be an ASM Spoilers thread for the upcoming issue, which this one also is. Completely different things. I'll make sure of it. No rules are going to be broken at all.
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>>150157858
>For some reason, you care a lot.
I don't really but I happen to hate spammers like you that's why I am doing this.
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>>150157879
the spoilers for ASM were already posted that's why we had this thread.
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>>150157903
Yeah, we should have a new thread because discussion isn't done, you just interrupted. Don't worry, once you go to sleep we'll have a new thread and finish talking about things. You can just keep posting, or going to sleep, or stay up all night trying to flood four different threads, whatever else you like. It's going to happen regardless, no matter what you do. Nothing you do matters now and you're not going to convince me to change my mind. Sorry.
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>>150154991
>>150151441
>>150144577
As expected of the whore of Babylon
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>>150157978
Who, Gwen Stacy? Yeah, she did murder Gwenpool. Uncool!
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>>150152751
Not for nothing, but hasn’t Gwen only been dead for a few years in the time line? Would a body decompose so thoroughly in a coffin in such a short time?
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>>150157990
Well, she still has the retarded headband. That's really all that matters.
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>>150157928
Wrong discussion is done
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>>150158013
19 more posts to go. Thanks man. See you in the new thread soon.
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Yes the clone saga brings back so much memories.
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>>150158034
you won't since they won't be one.
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bump limit almost.
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>>150158056
Yes it is. I'm going to make one. I'm going to make one the second this thread hits 500. It's your punishment.
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>>150158038
Yes, I also remember it. 14 more posts to go.
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>>150158073
new thread already exists lol

>>150155340
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>>150158094
nobody cares lol.
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>>150158112
That's just a general thread. I'm going to make a spoilers thread. Completely different thing.
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>>150158094
>Yes, I also remember it. 1
bad memories bad news for spider fags good news for me.
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>>150158129
You care. Only you care, and you need some form of punishment. 10 posts.
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>>150158139
>That's just a general thread. I'm going to make a spoilers thread.
this was the spoilers thread.
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>>150158163
Yes, it's almost at bump limit. We'll need a new soon. I already have the OP drafted.
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>>150158155
I don't care I just hate people like you since you are disgrace to this planet.
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>>150158177
*yawn* nobody cares
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just about bump limit.
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>>150158199
Four posts left. The next thread is already is in draft and ready to be submitted soon.
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>>150131583
truly dumb.
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>>150158220
I know, exciting times. I've got the next OP ready, friend.
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>>150158225
don't care.
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R.I.P.
the end
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>>150158268
Right, new thread. >>150158262

Feel free to shuffle in as you like, guys. Even you, Gwenschizo. Just stay up late.
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MJ and Peter will finally be back and OMD will be put to rest forever in 2026. Gwen is still super dead.
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>>150158384
>MJ and Peter will finally be back and OMD will be put to rest forever in 2026
it never will.
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>>150158410
Yes it will. I have it on good authority.
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>>150158486
I trust you! You seem to be a fine and upstanding citizen!

>>150158410
I don't trust you, you seem Polish, and they're known for their pedophilic tendencies!
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>>150136636
he's crawling around the underground malls
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>>150131714
ASM Spoilers posted on CBR:

So Ben ends his part in the issue still not knowing who Norman is..,and not caring. Felicia knows he's switched with Peter and they go have a coffee. Peter tells Felicia the new Spider-Man will learn they have to get something before they realize how much they don't want it. Ben tells Felicia she has a good heart and she can call on him for anything. Janine arrives and meets Felicia for the first time, there's some nice moments with her and Ben before they both depart. Ben sticks Felicia with the bill



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