how can anyone be anti mutantliterally mutants:
>>150132747that was one guy, out of the 100,00 mutants that are born its kinda small, its not like he did it on purpose either.
>>150132747>most famous far left franchise in media history makes hating minorities logical and reasonable based jews
>>150132784>were gonna make our own sta-i mean home where its only us and if anyone tries attacking us well use the samso- mutant rights act!
>Mutation is a gift. We're the next step involution: said the man with laser eyes and two psychic hot chick girlfriends.>Meanwhile YOU
>>150132784Bendis was being based for once?
>>150132747Has any other single comic done more damage to it's franchise?
Wow, I feel sorry for hi-
>>150132858The entire Ultimate line (which is where this issue came from to begin with)?
>>150132805lollove krakoa fucking dies lets hope life imitates art
>>150132872for fuck sake i was just making a shitty joke. jews really are the worst sort of people
>>150132870So no?
>>150132859>Here lies guy whose powers kills everyone. He never scored.
>>150132893NTA but ruinsthat wasnt even sad edge or grim edge or edge edge it was just "how do i make a story that will just be sop retarded and boring while trying to what im known for but not actually doing it"
>>150132858There are some events with much worse lasting consequences like Civil War.
>>150132747ultimate xmen makes the most sense these angry minorities led by jews are told they are the future of society but really are just failed government experiments just like in real life
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>>150132968wtf no even commies admit superheroes are vigilantes stopping criminal immigrants and their jew bankers donors they literally call this the first superhero movie
>>150132959Isn't cyclops being kinda a cunt here? Killing a defenceless man n all. He should stand trial by mutant court to decide his punishment.
>>150132747And this is ignoring them constantly claiming they are not Humans but rather the replacement of Humans and that there must be segregation .It is really funny how that famous panel where someone points at Nightcrawler and claims he is not Human is nowadays not a portrayal of discrimination but an in-universe fact .
>>150132959imagine your turned into this and discover the fucking government did this to you and group of lucky hot white liberals are trying to tell you no your beautiful the way you are my hatred would be past the boiling point
its like something out of a horror movie a literal child woke and began killing her family and some random cops who show up also get killed jesus christ the fact so many generations were duped into thinking the mutants were the good guys shows how effective jewish propaganda was and is to this day
>>150132947Tower of Babble comes to mind. Batman's popularity remains eternal, but ToB is the biggest sliding door moment for the character, to the point where it completely defines the modern version of the character for many people. It's interesting that JLU Batman is what the character would be without that extreme paranoia aspect to the character.
>>150132773Only 47000 gun-related deaths occurs in the US a year with a population of 340 million - gun-related meaning the accidents are included. Yet people routinely act like they’re a problem IRL. If mutants existed they’d statistically be more dangerous/destructive and more likely to harm than guns.
>>150133619thank you for telling me about deaths and guns, were talking about xmen comics and powers that exist only in our imagination.
>>15013361930k+ of those deaths are suicides.
>>150132858What a dumb question. It’s not even the most destructive Bendis comic lol
>>150133639See:>If mutants existed they’d statistically be more dangerous/destructive and more likely to harm than guns.You emotional faggot>>150133640Not quite, same stats (2023) list 53 percent were suicide. So 24K. And unlike mutants (and any capes really) there isn’t a single gun that can level cities on a whim.
>>150133727>You emotional faggotmy emotions dont have a thing to do with hating mutant/kikes.are you just making things up so you can sound like youre correct?
>>150133931You getting all bitchy about the most direct analog seemed pretty emotional.
>>150133654post em. legit interested
>>150132968ew
>>150132858How to do damage to the reputation of the X-men in a single easy step:>be an X-men comic
>>150132858Spider-man
>>150132747Nigger we already have an X-thread full of repeat autists, don't fucking make another one you fucking faggot
>>150134370NTA but>Avengers Disassembled>House of MBoth severely damaged the Avengers and X-men lines. The X-men will NEVER recover from House of M as it's damage to the line can only be described as "spiritual". Avengers got off a little better at least until Civil War which finished them off, though arguable they've recovered much better than the X-men have
>>150134528/thread to be desu
>>150132858some other X-men comic?
>>150132858The X-Men have a bunch of shitty turning points so it's hard to pin the blame on just the one
>>150134756The Avengers have been in an MCU rut for a while now. That's still better than modern X-Men but it certainly isn't good
>>150135001I like this one to be honest. It's not condescending, it's not "hurr durr edocate yourself" this... This one is good.
>>150132747Not even the main universe and it was a fucking shitty story
>>150135001This one isn't bad... but im having hxh flashbacks
>>150135092I'm talking comics not fucking movies here
>>150134756i think ben 10 was way more damaging to the xmen as they were made as a easy way to make new heroes quickly than explain lore for each but ben 10 comes along as hes just one kid with multiple different heroes complety removing the need for kids to wait for the next diversity hire so kids just moved on the same reason no one cares about fucking might tor or any other hanah barbara superhero they peaked and people moved on
>>150134666Cope
>>150135523So am I. The comics are stuck in an MCU synergy rut. We haven't had an interesting lineup in years
>>150135001>Geez, it was just an Aristocrats joke.
>>150134269im sorry youre upset i insulted your jewish heritage
>>150133038He murdered over a billion people, leaving some countries bereft of all life (Latveria completely froze over, killing everything inside). Although inhibitor collars exist, he's escaped multiple times before, has multiple loyal followers, and no reliable way to permanently ensure he can't do it again (especially when it's shown to be nearly effortless for him). Not to mention that there's no open mutant organisations outside of the X-Men, and a majority of the world's most powerful governments were destabilized by Multiple Man perfoming mass suicide-bombings. Once the poles are restored, doing anything other than instantly killing him is beyond suicidal. This isn't even like the common Joker example where you could argue he's technically just a guy; this is a man who could literally snap a finger and destroy all life on earth through the power of bad writing (unhinged power creep - the scale of the event was absurd when put alongside everything else he'd been shown to be capable of).
People who hate mutants strikes me as just disney shills. Real marvel comcis fans love mutants
>>150134756>The X-men will NEVER recover from House of M as it's damage to the line can only be described as "spiritual".The "spiritual" damage to X-Men had been done 4-5 years before House of M, the early 2000s runs completely changed the premise of the books and what being a mutant was, by doubling down on The Metaphor so much the X-Men didn't even identify as being human anymore. But a lot of the fandom, especially the self-inserters, saw nothing wrong with it, because like Krakoa, it was a "Mutants are winning" era, and didn't care that the X-books were screwing up the rest of the Marvel Universe being able to do the "world outside your window" anymore.Then instead of just forcing a reset back to pre-2001 X-Men and never mentioning the era again, Marvel chose to do Decimation (and needlessly throw a veteran Avenger under the bus instead of using the mutant cure Whedon had already set up), and the extinction storyline, and the radicalization of the X-Men, and a lot of their fanbase.I don't think X-Men is fixable outside of just cancelling it until the entire fandom has died of old age and you might then have the freedom to get back to basics.
>>150133727Instead they can kill several people on a whim. And frequently do. But that’s okay and we need more guns!
>>150136707>Real marvel comcis fans love mutantsYeah, sure. A badly-thought out and even more badly-written allegory for minorities, that's what we're all reading superhero comics for. I'm sure we especially love it when the heroes from other comics get treated as 'oppressors' in X-Men comics.
>>150132841Bendis is from a different generation of jewsGolden age comics jews supported the idea of israelModern american jews like Seth Rogen and Natalie Portman hate the idea of a country only for jews
>>150132747Being anti mutant in a world with other meta humans is dumb. But if it's just humans then yeah absolutely.
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>>150136707They're just annoying in general. Can't just appreciate a story with fake characters but have to go >err but IRL I hate jews and blacks so I hate x-men!!!It's doubly eye rolly because 9.9/10 it just amounts to>hey maybe don't try to murder people!!!Like that's some amazing revelation.
>>150132747It's true. Degenerate filthy mutant whores use their mind control to make me want to fuck them all instead of my demure Christian God fearing wife. I shouldn't have to put up with wanting to tie up and rape hot filthy mutant whores that are gagging for human cock.
>>150132859>A child who literally didn't do anything wrong is upset that his life is over for no reasoncome on man
>>150136707I like mutants that aren't in the X-men twat circle jerk
>>150132747The whole problem with using mutants as a parallel to gays (or whatever IRL cause is fashionable at the moment) is that mutants, objectively and provably, ARE a threat to humanity and SHOULD be exterminated.
>>150137503>objectively and provably, ARE a threat to humanity and SHOULD be exterminatedJust like trannies
I don't have any proof Mossad infiltrated Marvel and influenced the entirety of Krakoa storylinesBut it's the only way I can explain "Ethnostates are awesome, actually" as an editorial stance.
>>150137796 You are incorrect it has to be the arch enemies because it has more in common with Islamic States and Israel has never been a ethno state despite what the people who want to destroy it want you to believe they also want you to believe the Holocaust was fake by Israel.
>>150137796the point of Krakoa was that ethnostates were bad and the X-Men were becoming the villains in their storybut twitter folx loved it and Hickman left to do whatever so it became a mess
>>150133727Wow 24000 people kill themselves every year in the US? Damn, that's kind of a lot
>Don't worry the Avengers will save us>The Avengers:
>>150132747Ultimate MarvelI liked the fanfic about him joining a multiverse suicide squad team. Sadly short.
>>150137174Wanda isn't a mutant anymore though
>>150132859>Screen cap this here lies beavis
>Last Stand's Trask was a black man. No racism remark.>DOFP's Trask was a dwarf. No one comments on him being a non-X gene mutant.What if we made Trask a black dwarf? Double the discrimination, more embittered towards normal humans than to mutants. Bonus points if he were a south african black, and thus could counter Magneto's ramblinbs about the Holocaust with his own experiences with the Apartheid and the fact he's a tall, handsome white man (and the fact that dwarfs get... special treatments in certain african tribes).
>>150132747my entire stance on mutants in-world depends on>am i a mutant myself, yes/ no>is my power cool
>>150132859It's fucked, but he was too dangerous to allow to survive. It would be like if you uncontrollably erupted in nuclear detonations randomly. Your power is an uncontrollable weapon of mass destruction. Its best for everyone within miles of you to just put you down humanely.
>>150139790Mine as a human would be.>mutant with dangerous powers? keep away>mutant with lame powers? look down on them>mutant with cool powers? wait for them to go to sleep and suck their blood or something in hopes I can steal their powers. It's Marvel after all, weirder has happened
>>150138682>ethnostates were badWhich is a stupid point to make because it goes against a lot of modern philosophy of self-determination of peoples, geopolitical considerations of the past 300 years, and the logical political aims of minority ethnicities feeling oppressed or unrepresented. Hickman says ethnostates bad, but he doesn't offer an argument why. He makes implications; he offers the X-Men engaging in zero-sum realpolitik instead of superheroics as evidence. Except those are different things and contexts, he's the writer who made them politicians instead of superheroes, and half their actions are conflated with superheroics anyway. I'm beginning to see why he skipped over all the issues that actually come with governing and defanged all their enemies, it's because the premise of his X-Men run wouldn't survive its implementation at all.
>>150132968Way is an actor writing a Batman comic?
>>150132773uh huhso in order to be the claimed "next step in human evolution" mutants have to not have the possibility to do thisthe reason they need not to do this, intentionally or otherwise, is because it take a couple decades to make adult humans and the infrastructure that supports them takes even longer to rebuild when it's destroyed, unless you have a large excess of money to put into it in the shorter term or you're prepared to borrow heavily to finance the repairsif you have a 1/10,000 chance of killing an entire town - in this case 265, but it's proximity-based so if it had happened in a city, the entire city of thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions - then your genes are worthless because they will wipe out all those people and all that infrastructure (as shit catches fire because nobody's looking at it any more etc and there's nobody to deal with that, obvs)and that's just going to make life harder; might not wipe everybody out, might even become predictable (tho having your "mutant powers" all tied to a single gene makes prediction a guess at best) but it's still going to slowly kill off the species because, especially if you're deliberately preserving mutant power genes at the expense of non mutant power genes, you're gonna wipe out more and more towns over timethat said it's a bad story and not just because of the Liefeld-esque shitpiece art or the comically childish dialogue - it's plotted as xtreeeem 90s shite where the consequences, which are major, are simply wished away by a snikting and never mentioned again
>>150140409Pride special, also he played Negative Man in Doom Patrol and voiced Superman in one of the DTV films.
>take instant death zone kid>work out his abilities don't affect non-biological targets>place him near a restricted military site you don't want anyone going near>supply him with cool stuff, let him do online classes, etc.>he'll either learn to control his abilities or you can just off him if he ever escapes>minimal investment for incredible security on a specific zoneHonestly sounds like a more useful guy than 50% of the population.
>>150132841lol no
>>150135001this shit is retarded
>>150132859Wasn't Wolverine technically the ancestor of all mutants in Ultimate, of did they retcon that along with Hulk eating Spider-Mans parents?
>>150141084Or study him to figure out how his powers work and how to replicate them. Imagining sending an agent like this into enemy territory. You win. They’re all dead before they even know what is going on.
>>150140345I hate the mentality of >ethnostates only good hen non-whites, non-japanese do it
>>150135762Use punctuation, for fuck's sake.
>>150137796Depending on the writer Krakoa and other places like it stands for either Zionism or ethno-nationalism for everyone else. One of those is celebrated and the other is evil. This is how you get seemingly schizophrenic writing.
Why do mutants use a hellish pit of despair instead of a regular prison like anybody else?
>>150139679They hate her, but they still act like she's their property they won't ever give up their claim on.
>>150143990They were using an actual hell dimension as their prison in previous events, this was at worst a sideways move.
>>150144091I don't understand why either. They hate her so much they still call her The Pretender in fandom even after her whole "redemption" regarding 'no more muties' which she did three different times, but they still want her as part of the x-family even though they still think she deserves to die for her 'crimes'? What gives?
>>150135001>>150135184>>150135438Ok so controlling breeding is bad is the argument here. I get that. For once the slippery slope fallacy isn't something that can totally dismiss this problem as governments being able to limit certain people from breeding will lead to people they disagree with not being allowed to breed and then a totalitarian state will be really powerful. The idea of one leading to another is more substantive because it is kinda trying to stop crimes before they happen and we know that trying to value human life is very hard to do. Like if 2 retards mate and then have a retard kid that drains tax dollars, and then banning them from having kids will kinda lead to controlling breeding. But if they do some other crime like breaking something or causing a disturbance in public, and then are isolated, that's another way I think we kinda indirectly control breeding now without the government becoming totalitarian and like Nazi Germany.Am I wrong? Is this edge case wrong? I dunno I kinda think that you can prevent a country from having to force itself to take care of a bunch of disabled people without committing sins and killing them or controlling lives insidiously.Also OP's comic is different from what Colossus is saying because those fucking muties could nuke a town and that is literally dangerous, contrary to what he is saying. Muties do deserve less rights if that can happen. Or muties would then have to be discriminated against according to their power level or danger level. Like yeah it would lead to imperfect humans getting too zealous in restricting someone but nah, you'd just have to go through that tough period and learn about muties so the right judgements are made.
>>150139610Those aren't the Avengers. That's some fan-fic bullshit Marvel thought was worthy to be called canon and be put out like it was. Marvel ended at the issue right before Disassembled.
>>150132858This and boy wonder arguably did more damage to frank millars reputation than holy terror
>>150133157watch out! A blemmyes!
>>150144305Has anyone ever figured out why Miller hates Dick so much?
>>150144133She was originally a mutant, and they have an "all mutants are property of the X-books forever" mentality, plus a lot of them still think her entire character is just "Magneto's kid" and nothing else. The worst of them insist she has to be a mutant specifically because of House of M, and what it means for her character if she's not a mutant, or them seeing her as "the self-hating mutant" because of that story, and her history of not being part of X-Men teams.
>>150144851That is so damn stupid
>>150143990>Even after becoming a "good guy" Magneto still abuses the shit out of ToadAnd that is not even getting into how he treats Pietro
>>150132747What is about Mutant
