The FlashPoint Paradox irreparably destroyed Wonder Woman's populatiry.
Superman's only claim to popularity in 20 years is winning a fanfiction internet fight, so what?
>>150135466I'd say Injustice did a lot worse to her. The entire comic line she was the worst possible piece of shit imaginable.
>>150135466how????? mera attacked her.
Wonder Woman was never popular, Linda Carter running in slow motion was popular.
>>150136460Yeah, after she cucked her and fucked her husband.>Hey Aquaman, your wife tried to kill me because we had sex, so now im going to declare war on the war and kill all men and little boys
>>150136460lot of people still blame her for making Arthur cheat
>>150136468sounds like their problem.
>>150135466I thought it was an injustice
>>150135466No, that second live action movie did that
>>150135466Injustice did far worse damage
>>150136460everything after that was kind of unneccessary
>>150135466no, it was countdown to infinite crisis
>>150135466I thought Gal Gadot's terrible flat acting did that, followed by her being overly vocal about being a jew and that the jews are doing absolutely nothing wrong in the middle east and if you don't like her terrible movies, you're antisemitic nazi.
>>150135466Wonder Woman irreparably destroyed my penis
everyone's right that Injustice did more damage (Flashpoint's whole thing is being based on an alternate reality where everything goes to hell, which even casuals seem to be aware of), but those panels of her snapping Maxwell Lord's neck and her implying that she doesn't have a notable rogues gallery because she kills them have done a lot of damage too in cementing the idea that she's some "barbarian warrior woman"
Flashpoint Paradox making Wonder Woman an evil overlord when the entire point of her role in the comic is that she was betrayed and lied too is fucking insane to me.
>>150135466Wonder Woman has never been popular. At her best, she’s made a good supporting character in media where more popular characters are the leads.
>>150137784She literally kills the very first villain she comes across (Decay) in the George Perez run of the comics.
>>150137784The cruel reality is that Diana being a barbarian warrior woman is 100x more palatable than the all-loving Superman with a vagina thing that they went for before the New 52. Not to say Perez's run was bad, but that's what the masses want out of her.
>>150135466honestly i think it's not knowing what to dowith her>Iron ManGal wasn't charismatic enough to usurp her comic personality like he did.>BatmanYou can't do self-conscious realistic wonder woman and if you could no one would want it.>Superman and Steve RdogersIronically her foreign, supernatural origin has more political baggage and produces far more grating military propaganda than permanently pro-America figures like Superman or Captain America.>Spider-manWonder Woman isn't funny and the parts of wonder woman's history that actually are would be weird if translated from the comics (etta candy).>Black spider-manNobody wants a black wonder woman.
>>150135466What “popularity”? She’s just (and has always been) goonbait
>>150137826That is what I want, but I also want the compromise to be that Wonder Woman will only kill as a very last resort, so there's significance when she does kill. I don't want her to be like The Punisher, but I also don't want her to be a fruit like Batman.
>>150137802Same exemption as killing aliens, robots and the undead
DCAU>>> these movies
>>150136468>Make Arthur cheatArthur is responsible for his own actions.But so is Diana.Adultery is a dance for two.She should have had the morale fiber to push her feelings aside and reject Aquaman's advances.
>>150137802Post-Crisis caused irreparable damage to Wonder Woman
>>150138452>morale fiberI think she had plenty of morale.
>>150135466Injustice did horrible to her rep too. Elseworlds fuck up her characterization horrendously.>I'm still mad she killed Huntress in IJ too
I wanted a Wonder Woman The Animated Series as a kid. I do not want that in the current day.
>>150136451It's a fucking bad end au, Injustice affected fucking nothing.
>>150138452Not to mention in the second movie she shapeshifted a random dude into her dead boyfriend and stole him from his family for...however many days to make him violate the sanctity of his marriage because she wanted dick. Yeah, real moral.
>>150135466cute
>>150135466>a direct to dvd movie that hardly anyone saw irreparably damaged the public's perception of a character than has been around for 80 yearsno
>>150135475fpbp
>>150135466just that?>>150136465this
>>150137879She was literally created by a BDSM degenerate so he could have an excuse to have attractive women being tied up. That being said, I still love Wonder Woman. I have a mighty need for amazon warriors.
>>150135466*Injustice and Gal Gadot
>>150136451>>150136485>>150136521>>150137784>>150139743>>150142852>INJUSTICE BADThis is such a retarded opinion to have. To believe Injustice is responsible for how people see Wonder Woman now is to believe people also see Superman only as super evil mega Hitler now since that's also how he was in the game. They don't. They know it's "what if Superman was le bad" story and not canonically how he always is. >>150140332Hey, look. One intelligent person. But fine. Here's Injustice Wonder Woman tied up and ready to pay for her sins. Do what you must.
>>150135475Supermans claim to popularity is the slant eyed japs and their weeb slaves cant help but bring him up in some desperate bid for legitimacy for their niche childish genre that they think some rando faggot from a show no one knows about being stronger means the abyssmal writing is justified
>>150143320except Superman has always been a lot more popular and even then you'll have retards who will bring up Injustice like "it's what would happen to regular Superman under the same circumstances"with Wonder Woman it happens a lot more
>>150135466no one watched that shit
>>150138306Flashpoint Paradox was good
>>150142835Theres nothing degenerate about that, its a heallthy artistic expression. When you finally understand superheroes one day youll realize all of it is weirdo fetishistic writers using the spandex as an outlet for their fetishes and most heroes are sexually repressed weirdos. The entire reason WW keeps being reinvented by every new writer is they all think like you, that sexuality is inherently bad and degrading, so they think of new creative ways to strip that from WW and thus a new direction or creative spin is born and her character is numbed even further into bland and boring warrior woman.
>>150144025William Moulton Marston, the creator of Wonder Woman, was literally a BDSM fetishist. This has been very well documented at this point. And don't try to argue that simulating rape isn't degenerate.
>>150143635Grip your tranny fanfiction web series tightly fren. its all you have.
>>150144315>projecting troon calling other anons trannies You are not valid. Dial 8.
>>150135466Wonder Woman having shit writers and an inconsistent character damaged her popularity more.
>>150136465Wonder Princess irreparably destroyed Wonder Woman's popularity
>>150135475Nah Superman is punk rock.
>>150143320but Injustice DID influence how people saw Wonder Woman. she's iconic, but not a lot of people really know her character past being the woman in the trinity - so when someone starts seeing a bunch of shit on YouTube about how Wonder Woman influenced Superman during Injustice, compiled with panels of her killing people and seemingly having no problem with it, they believe that's what Wonder Woman is because they don't read comics, which applies to most casuals. shockingly, a popular video game DOES influence how people see characters they weren't already familiar with. >but Superman-IS popular, just like what >>150143841 said. audiences ARE familiar with him so he didn't get hit as hard. Wonder Woman is, again, iconic - but nobody actually knows a lot about her. people will just take in what they DO get of her, and form their opinions on her - including Injustice
>>150144315Superbros..
>>150135475Superman's son is a fag.
>>150144288>BDSM is all just about simulating rapeIm not into it myself and the subculture is mostly filled with intolerable autists, but you're still obviously a puritan sperg who delibarately avoids understanding anything outside of your sheltered life
>>150135466Why did the writers make her so much worse in comparison? >book>I love Aquaman and I want to marry him>his people killed my mom, I no longer want to marry him>he married someone else and I'm not over my mom's death>I'll kill his new wife as a payback>I've been grieved by men so I hate them now>movie>Aquaman is hot but also married>don't care, I'll fuck him either way>his wife is now angry and wants payback>eat shit, I'll just kill her>also men are evil and stuff
>>150138306True>>150143887It was the first and last good move of this universe though
>>150140332>>150143320>They know it's "what if Superman was le bad" story and not canonically how he always is.Nah, plenty of normies are stupid enough to think mainstream Superman would act like Injustice Superman at any given moment as an unshakable fact.
>>150148000He would in any story that has anything true to say about the world (not to be confused with realism). The fundamental idea of a "wholesome" "benevolent" superman is dangerous propaganda, funded by people who want the populace to not properly fear and resist power
>>150148151You're retarded, chuddi
>>150148151>propaganda, funded by people who want the populace to not properly fear and resist powerI think 80s Reagan bootlicking Supes is a bigger piece of propaganda than good softboi Supes
>>150138306Not exactly a hot take
>>150140332The Injustice comics and the sequel pretty explicitly set up Diana as the domino that pushed Clark over the edge to outright villainy.
>>150148151>The fundamental idea of a "wholesome" "benevolent" superman is dangerous propaganda, funded by people who want the populace to not properly fear and resist powerSpoken like someone who doesn't know a single fucking thing about SupermanEven guys like Alan Moore wrote Superman to be that way even if he wrote angry and sad moments.You're just being a fag and crying about the new movie making Superman wholesome so you create some revisionist bullshit
>>150140045why not?
>>150147547At this point you might as well blame every writer who shoved Wondie being shown as cool with killing before Injustice.>>150148000Killing a loved one resulting in a hero turning evil is one of the most generic plots ever. Even the DCAU did it at least twice.
>>150137784You are about that? Cheetah, Circe and the Geek gods and monsters keep being very alive and very permanent to me Ms I Have No Enemies...
>>150144288Idk I think bondage is in a place between being sexual and platonic. I've tied up friends before and I was a little bit flustered but I didn't want to fuck them.
>>150135475>fanfiction internet fightThose things are gay and only fags pay attention to them. You can just have those discussions yourself, irl, with actual friends.
>>150143320Post more feet.
>>150150883>At this point you might as well blame every writer who shoved Wondie being shown as cool with killing before Injustice.i'm not arguing against that. like i said, there are a few infamous panels of Wonder Woman killing or being okay with it that contributed to her being seen as some killer. i'm just saying Injustice, as a popular game with comics that people read secondhand through posts from other people and what they thought, arguably influenced her the most. most casuals that you find on YouTube will mention stuff from Injustice when concerning Wonder Woman because, again, they don't read comics so they just go off what they've heard. naturally, they don't hear about WW in her comics, but they're likely to have heard of her role in a popular elseworlds story with a popular game attached
>>150135466That's not Wonder Woman 84 tho...`
>>150153455This movie looks fucking hilarious, I should actually watch it sometime.How the fuck did they go from Wonder Woman 2017 to this? They made one of the most serious and thematically interesting superhero movies ever made and then thought "Let's bring in the invisible jet."It's like if Superman 1 was followed by a movie of Superman and the legion of superheroes fighting Mr. Mxyzptlk with a special appearance by Comet the Superhorse.
>>150154109>it's bad because they brought in the invisible jetno, it's bad because they brought the invisible jet by making wonder woman have the power to make things invisible, among other idiotic things
