With all honesty, did you ever try to draw cartoons and get decently good at art? If you didn’t, at what age did you give up?
>>150135793I drew an okay Luz once but then stopped drawing as I got frustrated at my own lack of progress.
>>150135793Isn’t it a life long process? Like speaking a language or playing an instrument you have to use it consistently to improve or stay decent. You only fail when you give up as gay as that soundsAlso being really horny is probably a useful tool to get better of Youre into nsfw stuff
>>150135793I actually made it further than I thought I'd ever get and reached some of my art goals, but then I got blackpilled so I haven't made anything in a while.
>>150135793I gave up at all creative pursuits around 16 when preparation for university exams begun then I burnt out halfway through my degree and dropped out and I'm unemployable and hate myself cause I forced myself to base my whole identity over being a stemfag to cope and now that's gone so I don't even know who I am
>>150135793I can't draw.
Maybe l'll try next year.
>>150135831You eventually come back to art. Ive never really escaped the need to draw
>>150136209This. I've drawn on and off poorly for like a decade now you never get over wanting to draw from time to time.
I wanted to be a cartoonist growing up. I gave up art around 13 or 14 because everyone told me it was too impractical, plus I developed depression. (Actual depression, not just stereotypical teen angst.) I then proceeded to give up on life in general and have been switching between shitty minimum wage jobs and being a NEET for about a decade now. I've never been able to motivate myself to complete college. Or even pick up art again. I really shouldn't have given up art in the first place. If I had maintained that hobby, at least I would've had *something.* I know I need to pick it up again, and doing so now would be better than never, but it's astonishingly difficult to muster up the willpower to do anything when you've been dead to the world for so long.
>>150135793I got okay! It took decades, but I got okay. still can't do perspective for shit, but I feel capable of being a concept artist now. Sure would love if I could get a job designing something cool. but every industry is only making garbage. toys, games, whatever. even japan has fallen.
i make low quality comics
>>150135898i hate anyone who isn't unemployable, so maybe love yourself.and get back on the art. You've already done step 1 of being a great artist: you're a self-loathing failure. Stem was always garbage anyway, and the people pressuring others into it are even worse. We're pretty fucking far from any chance of real discoveries or advancements.
>>150136241My parents drew incredibly well the, like, one or two times they ever did it. my dad just freehanded a flawless ship once.. my mom drew perfectly competent and functional cartoons on a greeting card. and then.. they both just never did it again. They didn't find it interesting. That baffles me, but in fairness there are things I'm good at that I don't enjoy, like.. math.. or proofreading..>>150136353I wanna punch those people who squashed your dreams. but it's never too late. Maybe you're a mutant like me, and your skills actually got better despite you not practicing.>willpoweryeahh that's rough. but do something simple as fuck. do something deliberately simple and stupid. make it pointless as shit. Draw me a goddamn wheel with a face. Wheelo the fucking wheel.
>>150136371absolute nostalgia blastalso THINK YE CAN TAKE ME? DON'T FORGET ME!
>>150135793Give up?
>>150136407that's actually pretty good drawing. you gave PB's hair a bulge that it really SHOULD have.the dialogue sure as fuck doesn't make me happy, but you did it interestingly.
>>150136386also: you can totally turn that kind of knowhow into good writing. Tezuka did that with Black Jack.
Wow. ONE post with proof they didn't give up.You are all pathetic for residing to be consoomers and never producing.>>150136407Never give up and you can't fail
>>150136397Thank you for the encouragement. It means a lot.I tried to draw him lol. I hope you like it.
>>150136531You're a fucking child. Get off this site LOSER I CAN SEE IT IN THE PEN STROKES
>>150135793I'm not horrible but I'm not good either. If I stuck with it and maybe did a webcomic then I might've gotten good enough to make a decent living out of it but I hate my inability to get better so much that I gave up a long time ago. Still I wonder how things would've worked out if I was like any of the other 2000s webcomic artists who have stagnated styles and coasting to this day on nostalgia.
I think about it daily, but never draw, and when I do I feel so pathetic and shameful and it's all awful unless I'm using heaving references and just copy someone else
Even if I got good at art I don't want to be tracked down and doxed or something if i get noticeable and someone doesn't like me
>>150136612I said I stopped drawing when I was 13/14. I'm in my late 20s now. Hence the childish drawing. But uh, thanks for the encouragement.
>>150136677You sure? Cause you type like a little bitch 8 year old."Heh, thanks for the encouragement" I wasn't encouraging you, you snide little weasel. I'm GLAD you don't draw anymore. We have enough FAGGOTs making SHIT CLOP cartoons these days like GayWitch Girl: The Show. And we DON'T need any more passive aggressive LOSERS in the field.Porky fucking Pig has more back bone than you
>>150136612>>150136764Anon trolling is supposed to be short and quippy and sound natural
>>150136764>SHIT CLOPlolAnyway, I get your point.
>>150136767ayo sybau shortywhat u show a bich howta suck dick 2
>Lazlo you ignoramus, don't you get it? We're getting canceled! CANCELED! They're replacing us with a blond stupid moron, a drunk muppet, and a whale!
>>150135793i'm a professional graphic designer and illustratorsometimes i get to do cool things but when you're a hired gun it's mostly boring shitand if you ever work for a university try to get the money up front cause they take fucking forever to pay up
>>150136829No proof. LiarIt's your professional job you do day in and day out and you didn't include ANY of your work on an anonymous board? Liar GTFO tourist
>>150136882>anonymous boardEvery single post you make here is 1. public and 2. archived off-site. It's not really that anonymous.
>>150135793I practice it as a hobby but I gave up on it as a career because i'm neither a rich jew with college connections in california or a shameless ai fag
>>150136997Those guys are all out of work now too. Studios only hire koreans and commonwealth immigrants nowadays because they're trying to breed a kpop bluey.
>>150136997>>150137084Imagine being independent. Gosh you two are just hopelessly losers. You can't do anything for yourself? Just gonna lose to Jews? Then AI? Then after they're done fucking you while you admit you can't beat them. the KOREANS come in and rape you?Ew. I hope we don't know each other
>>150137104I don't have any ideas. All I have is the ability to draw. I need an ideas guy to tell me what to create for union minimums.
>>150137210I don't like you based off principlePractice creative thinking you nonce.
>>150135793I started drawing comics freeform in middle school and stopped once I graduated high school. There’s just something about school desks that brings out your creativity.
>>150135793I went to the trouble of getting an art degree. Why would I give up?
>>150135793I gave up at 85, leaving my failed legacy of nonsense robot cartoons from Japan behind me. I can't even pronounce "Yamato," drivel.
>>150135793Cool
>>150135793Now that I'm 30yo I'm trying to learn how to draw and I'm using anime to practice.
>>150135793I used to love to draw but waging saps all of my energy and enthusiasm these days. It's not even the work, it's having to deal with fucking normalfags. I wish I could make enough to live off doing something completely alone with zero human interaction.
>>150135793I'm too lazy to do the actual work of getting gud, but too dumb to ever stop. 20+ years of no fundies and no method.
>>150135793At 8 when my art teacher separated the kids that could draw and those who he deemed worn’t worth the effort.
>>150136407This fucking guy just dropping official adventure time storyboards.
>>150135793I still do. I started my art journey as a /co/ drawfag, and it was good at keeping me constantly drawing.
>>150135793I never gave it up. I draw in whatever fandom I like. Homestuck, Adventure Time, Battletech, Hazbin, all that jazz.
>>150139582Congrats, I will conquer this woman.
>>150135793Been drawing since I was six I think. I enjoy animating too. Life goal was to have a cartoon show. Currently 30 and a loser. Can't give up drawing because I don't have anything else to do kek. I have a graphic design degree that's currently being put to use through an internship.
I gave up on everything in life when I was 14.
>>150140658Holy based
>>150136531okay I love this.. those eyes.. the little mouth inside what looks like spoke teeth..
>>150136531I cut that comment short because we were on page 10, but to continue:those eyes require a hand that really knows shapes.. and I love that they're on TOP. so he can't even be a wheel without squishing his eyes. this is a delightfully silly fellow. Also I secretly gave you a wheel as a challenge because circles are hard, and I can see that you're able to correct your lines as you go, to make a rough circle. so you really do have skills. Keep that shit up.>>150137311yeah having nothing else to do, your brain tries to make up its own. same thing happened at my desk job here and there. i invented a fighting game idea there..
>>150140658At least youre not physically ill
>>150135793Honestly, I never tried. Not even once. The most I've ever even attempted were shitty doodles in school, and only then, out of a sense of abject boredom and not out of any attempt to practice.
>>150135793Almost a decade straight of on-off practice and after a small spike in the beginning all improvement flatlined. Despite trying to push myself with a bunch of huge scenes, multiple angles, working on perspective, etc.I’ve given up for now because I have much greater priorities that aren’t giving me the time to draw, and every time I do draw right now I end up frustrated at my own mediocrity. Gonna give it a rest for a few years, then try to start from scratch
made this once
>>150135793i did at a young age and gave up around middle school because my hands have terrible shakes and cramps easily. it wasnt until i turned 24 that i decided to revisit art stuff through 3D modeling with blender obviously making porn but then i had fun just making stuff
>>150140658Me
>>150139582I like her design. I will rape and kill >>150139824 in front of her
>>150143247that might work out.. but don't feel too bad, everyone hits those plateaus. in my experience, it means your brain needs to recharge doing something else for a few hours. play a new videogame, read a new book, open your head up to some new shit, then it'll be more inclined to accept perspective whatever.>>150143734jeeez that sounds awful. thyroid prob?
>>150135793i did multiple timesi collect scrap paper in anticipation of my brain changing and i suddenly acquire the discipline to practice
How do you force yourself to draw even if you make absolute garbage Not just practice, I mean draw ANYTHING at all
>>150144761let go of the results. either that, or examine your garbage and decide what parts to remove so it's not garbage.
>>150137210I often read books from this series to help. I even showed picrel to Gates Mcfadden recently.
>>150145051whoa, no way!.. er, why? Is she involved somehow? I only know her from trek and labyrinth.
>>150137104i'm pretty sure the 'rich' part is what he's losing to
>>150145069Nah. She's had a pretty creative career and I thought she'd want to sign it.
>>150146099well I wouldn't say no to that in her place. just making sure I wasn't unaware of something I should be ununaware of.
>>150146598She didn't sign it but she enjoyed looking through it.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gates_McFaddenRelated to this tbread, she told me its never to old to start and she met someone at 77 who publisjed her 1st novel. I wish I had asked her more questions but she was really warm and friendly regardless.
>>150146829doubt I'll live that long, but that's wonderful. Glad you had that experience.
>>150135793Yes. I studied Disney and it's mastery of drawing women lips and amazing anatomies of men and women, and the Roger Rabbit movie where I learned to draw high heels. It increases my skills tremendously. I sorta plateaued until I started going to figure drawing class to draw hot naked people
>>150147480man i hate when people draw in the lips
>>150147480I nor anyone here will believe until you post proof
>>150135793I just draw my own personal short comics that will never be seen, and my own weird fetish shit after a while.
>>150147577aww i like seeing those
>>150135793>If you didn’t, at what age did you give up?How can you give up if you've never tried?
>>150147628ey mad respect. people bash not-trying, they say you miss 100% of the swings you don't take, but I disagree. I mean in baseball, that's literally not how it works. you can only get a strike if you swing. so they try to goad you into swinging at one you can't hit. Tons of shit in life is like that, colleges push it. They deliberately enroll a million people to get certified in a career with 10,000 people nationwide.
>>150135793I only ever drew for fun, I knew nothing would ever come from it
>>150147636Sir, this is a thread about draw tips.Take whatever this schizo thing is away with yourself.
>>150135793I've been drawing cartoons for years.I like to think Im kinda good at it.
>>150148354damn son, you arethis kind of drawing always really impresses me, too, since.. unless i'm mistaken, that lineart style means you basically freehanded this. something I see pros doing, and I used to have the confidence for (but not the skill), and now I have to carefully, painstakingly, fucking hair-pluckingly work everything out into balls and cylinders and shit, before doing lineart which, at that point, is just really smooth lines because it went last.
>>150135793I went through a "wannabe animator" phase in high school and got bored of it after a year. I drew pic related when I was 17 and my art has pretty much stagnated since.
>>150135793Among my best of a /co/ character.
>>150148475>my drawing is a wojak It's a shitty drawing then
>>150135793I'm 7 years in
I try my bestBut unfortunately, i probably suffer from ADHD and slight autism (both self diagnosed, mind you), which hinders my progress a TON, it's frustrating as fuck, but what else can i do
>>150135793I'm not giving up on drawing. I don't think I'm deviantart meme level hideous, but I'm aware of my limitations, and what I've given up on, is on improving. I have a full time job, and after moving out, most of my free time goes to house chores. So I'll just keep drawing, at an even slower pace than I did before. But I don't see myself neither giving up, or making a dedicated effort to improve
>>150148614aw that's a good rocko>>150148751you drawin dofus hentai? that's pretty cool>>150148753man i hear that. try fatigue sometime. nothing feels as good sometimes as just doing nothing and staring into space, waiting to just fossilize and die.
>>150135898Same. Loved to draw, got into a disputed uni, never liked it, got burnt out, dropped near the end, don't know what to do with my life, don't feel passion for anything anymore, I just rot year after year.I keep trying to get back to art, but like I said, I don't feel passion about anything anymore, and I also feel so self-conscious about it, like, 'oh you dropped uni? Then you better be a fucking master artist', and I know I can't give these results to me or anyone else.
>>150149332a disputed uni?dude, as far as I'm concerned, you dodged a bullet. I had three friends go to art school. one came back a depressed and nervous wreck, the other two came back the other gender.
>>150148614Done that phase during middle school and I'll never forgive adobe or people acting like it was so good/the only option back then. Still tried to get the itch out with stopmotion.>>150148751What the hell is a kamas.
>>150149480the currency in the settingit's a bad habit, I think, in writing genre fiction, where people constantly say the name of the currency, in a scenario where we would never say "all i care about is dollars"
When I was a kid, I wanted to draw Sonic comics.I then realized I was bad at art and decided to practice, jokingly saying "see you in 2 years" on my DeviantArt.That was fourteen years ago.One day, I'll finally have the skills to tell my masterpiece about Evil Tails banging Amy and then he dies but he was so Evil and Edgy that he made a BLACK chaos emerald and uses it to come back to life, but in the meantime I shitpost.
>>150149091>you drawin dofus hentai?just a one off page>>150149595personally I decided to write it that way "cocks and kamas" because it's phonetically alliterative, and thus sounds nice and catchy.
>>150149632imagine censoring words in your art.>>150149659who the fuck draws a one-off page like that. it looks like it was so much work.>alliterationohhhhhh okay. to me those are two very different vowel sounds. one has your mouth mostly forward, the other has your cheeks pulled back.
>>150149856I actually don't remember how it's said in the show, so in my head it's KAW-Ma, starting the same as cock (KAWck) so if it's KAA-Ma? well, j'ai ne ce parle pas francais lmao>who the fuck draws a one-off page like that. it looks like it was so much work.the original drawthread request was complaining that only "lazy requests" get filled, and filling his request thus would have only been funny if I put loads of effort into it.Ergo I must commit to the bit.Also one of my main goals for the last year has been building comic skills and learning that manga-y rendering style, so any excuse to practice it is goodmight as well post the full https://files.catbox.moe/45ba4q.png
>>150150018in fact, in the show, the emphasis is on the 'ma'>drawthread requestholy shit>put in effort as a jokeyou are awesome. I wish I had any of that.. or the energy..
>>150149856> censoring words in your artSwearing is censored in-universe, so it's canon.Plus, ironically, it adds emphasis to the insult.
>>150139824>>150143788Thanks, I'll take those as compliments. The dubs make it extra valid.
>>150150450that's not how i remember it, but I only watched two episodes because a kid said he'd watch Homestar Runner if I didthen in the third, there's a "they" so I'm out. too bad, it was actually well-written.
>>150148751Incredibly impressive for seven years.
>>150150656oh hey i didnt even pick up on that. i assumed he meant he's doing a comic for 7 yearsso... what does that mean, anon? you literally just started from nothing 7 years ago?
>>150150063ah I see, and thanks>>150150656thanks>>150150673yeah I started from stick people in 2018
>>150150684hot diggity. wow.I can't even imagine what it's like not having drawn my entire life. Some of my earliest memories are having a pencil or crayons
Why is there such a stigma of using reference? Example: >>150136648Isn't being able to use references and copying what you see one of the fundamental skills needed in learning to draw?
>>150148751Albedo if it was good
>>150150899>Isn't being able to use references and copying what you see one of the fundamental skills needed in learning to draw?Yes. I didn't do that for the first like 15 years of my drawing career, and I regret it.
>>150148751>>150150684Fuck that's so fucking hot.How old are you?Do you fuck with color or only stick with black and white?
>>150150905wdym, anon?>>150151047thanks. I turn 30 this year. I don't think I'm very good with colour, and I really like the black and white look, so I don't often. here's an example, conveniently of the same characterhttps://files.catbox.moe/dqzvnl.png
>>150135793drawing is what I'm best at. that isn't saying much though because I'm a huge fucking loser
>>150150899anon wasn't feeling shame over using referenceshe was feeling shame over the NEED to use references. because some don't.skill always resents talent. I have enough of both to know that too well, but not enough of either to be satisfied.
>>150151069colors look fine, but using add (glow) for skin highlights in this situation isn't really appropriate. that's more for like, hair, because hair is metallic. but for the hair you just did solid highlights.
>>150135793Over a decade of taking cartooning seriously, and I'm still not comfortable with my level or style. A lot of signs point to it being a confidence thing, idunno
>>150135793Never bothered.
>>150151147I still don't see why there even should be a stigma on using or needing it. Professionals use references. It's not like it isn't documented. Is there some idea that professionals just draw from pure imagination and never look at references ever again?
>>150151171you're always your own worst critic, it's part of the same neurological setup that makes you unable to tickle yourself.>>150151209there is no stigma, it's just envy. we wish we could do without one. we want to be able to just picture stuff, and make it. that one Star Trek episode contained some pure wish fulfillment concepts, where you could just hold the musical instrument, think, and it makes music based on how you feel. or just aim the crazy laser thing and it sculpts you a perfect horse from your imagination... when you're really in the zone, sometimes your pen creates things that you can't believe you made, and we're always chasing that high. That's why artists are all kinda nutcases. The reality of our ability to create shit makes no sense, and is inconsistent and fleeting.and speaking of star trek, we really need to treat AI like the holodeck. it's not for creating something you'd really share with anyone, it's for piggybacking on existing stuff. you should be taking AI and saying "hey take this image but change what character it is" just for your own amusement. You still want people to be manually hand-creating your fiction and junk. but sometimes you just want to ask the computer "hey what if (thing nobody would ever make because i just now thought of it)"
>>150151023You fixed that and your career got better right?>>150151228Sounds like you know this first hand. What would you say is the breakout achievement of a beginner going to an intermediate level, or alternatively, the hallmarks of an intermediate vs a beginner? Is such a notion too subjective?
>>150135793when I was like 5 I tried to draw Bart Simpson from memory and realized it was impossible for me, after that I started to draw anime which was a lot easier for me.(that was 35 years ago)I am now decent at drawing I think
>>150139582that part where her arm is gone so you can see her body, you should have drawn the cutoff part black or the full arm transparent. Right now it looks like it is amputatedalso unless it is your fetish, try to draw less muscles. Even though art tutorials all talk about muscles this and muscles that, at the end of the day most muscles aren't visible with most humans)
>>150151528>You fixed that and your career got better right?Not really. I still almost never remember to look at references, and I'm sure I'll never properly relearn everything I've learned wrong.>>150151573Thanks for the feedback, but that character is supposed to be quite muscular.
>>150148751sup, writefag
>>150135952Me too, 5th post senpai.
No, not yet but I'm planning to. I'm just too afraid of dedicating years to something (that really should be a hobby if anything) only for it to becoming a total failure.
>>150136407Nah lol make more
>>150135793I did and I still try to draw every now and then. Though my last piece though was about a month ago and I just can't seem to bring myself to draw again....even though I know I should. Drawing just doesn't give me much joy anymore Pic related is one of my better pieces that I still look foundly at>>150136407Nah dude there's a charm to these. Got a smile out of me in these dark times>>150136623You'd be forgotten today but at least you might have gotten a spotlight then. 2000s webcomics had a pretty low bar for fame entry since they were new and popular. You could rip off penny arcade like every other 2000s webcomic did and still find some success then. Just look at Ctrl Alt Delete
>>150135793High school, realized I was no good at it and others were far better at drawing than me.
Not sure I can ever say I give up because I never intend to keep going. Here's my biggest banger
>>150139322>using anime to practiceNot a good idea imo. It'll cause you to get comfortable and will cement bad drawing habbits. Try practicing in other styles from time to time if you can. Learn some anatomy if you can spare the time. You'll improve quite a bit I guarantee you>>150148941That's actually pretty good dude :)>>150149632>When I was a kid, I wanted to draw Sonic comics. Same :). I really should try drawing the blue guy some timeYour idea for a sonic comic is so 2000s edgelord I can't help but like it
>>150135793I took up guitar (and later bass), writing and drawing since I was laid off my job due to the coof and I was still living with my parents so I could strech my savings a bit. Unfortunately, I got a full time job a few years later and I've just not had the drive to create like I once did. I've kicked around a few ideas of what I want to create but on the weekends I just end up layind around in my apartment. One thing I have been trying to do is take my MacBook and a sketch book and force myself to bum around a Starbucks or fast food joint around my city. I've had some success so far. I just need to do it more often. My stubborn ass refuses to give up.
>>150151528i don't think there is an intermediate, not in terms of looking for the midpoint between beginner and expert, because everyone begins differently, and expertise seems infinite
>>150153712gnar>>150153715given how few disney theatrical productions there are between the 40s and 90s to study from, anime is one's best bet by far.
>>150135793I gave up during high school when I attempted to make a comic strip that wasn't a bunch of absurd inside jokes to pop my friends and I didn't have any ideas that wasn't Evan Dorkin-esque complaining.
>>150155580some people are better with someone else writing
i hear actors all the time saying they act because they HAVE to. they can't not do it. that's how I know I'm not really an actor, i'm an artist.. because I write and do voiceover reluctantly, more to serve the art.
>>150155539Yeah sure if you like slaving away for pay that's less than a McDonald's worker. Anyway I was just giving general advice to improve if you like. If you want to join a production studio I hope your passion for animation fills in the hole that'll be in your wallet
>>150153715>Your idea for a sonic comic is so 2000s edgelord I can't help but like itI would have been proud of it for about two months, then extremely embarrassed for the next decade, and then finally come back around to liking it as a period piece.The sad part about not making more stuff when I was a teenager is that now I have a bunch of ideas that are too cringe to make as a 30-year-old man, but are too cool to forget.
>>150153715>Not a good idea imo. It'll cause you to get comfortable and will cement bad drawing habbits. Try practicing in other styles from time to time if you can.I do that too, but I just like more the manga/anime style.>Learn some anatomy if you can spare the time. You'll improve quite a bit I guarantee youWill do, thanks for the advice.
>>150157239I think you replied to the wrong person>>150157280boy is that ever true
>>150157492>think you replied to the wrong person Bruh...>>150157473>Pic relatedWell...it's a different style ig. Funny im like the opposite of you. Anime is nice but drawing it is a bitch for me. Also you're welcome
>>150157582I mean, if i'm the retard, please walk me through it>>150153715 anime is not good to practice on>>150155539 there aint much better to study from than anime, except disney between the 40s and 90s>>150157239 yeah sure, if you like slaving away for low pay. If you want to join a production...that last bit seems a total nonsequitur to me. I wasn't suggesting any jobs of any kind, just what kind of art to practice from. and if you were saying disney underpays its animators, do you really think anime is better? or if you were saying anime underpays, i mean YEAH. but what's your point?
>>150157865My bad I miss read your post on Disney productions. Please ignore this >>150157239 post
>>150149091>>150149480Idk why the pic got posted sideways. I drew this more recently. I still have an idea for a graphic novel, but I've accepted the fact that I'll likely need to hire a real artist to draw it. Maybe it'll sell enough copies that I can get an animated movie out of it, but I'm not delusional about those odds.
I started making my own animations, I may not be famous, but I'll be damned if I give up. No surrender!https://www.youtube.com/@romanpen
>>1501591854chan strips out the metadata in phones, since it could be used to hide thoughtcrime. sadly that also contains the orientation data>need a real artistI mean this aint too bad. I can tell it's 2k3 splinter. I think I could easily teach you from here if you really wanted to git gud.. like step 1 would be, rough out where his legs are, the femurs and shins..
>>150159364and they're damn funny. fancy seein you here, seth
>>150135793Yes I have but I wouldn't consider what I make super good but it's decent.
>>150151152I could go ummm acksually she's furry so it IS hair but nah, you're right lol
>>150160012ohh yeah, her ears and tail.. in retrospect, duh. i guess the freckles threw me off.
>>150159633Thanks brah, Is this Terrence, Coldfusion, or Maze?
>>150160243i'm glad to see there's at least two other guys who recognize you and enjoy your work.no, yes, and no.
>>150136812You just reminded hilarious this character was
>>150159616The drawing went unfinished for over a year because I couldn't get the legs right at first. I've always struggled with limbs, if you could tell me how to not make them look like sticks then that would help. It might not be "bad," but I don't think my art is good enough to charge money for. I also have no idea how to draw environments.
>>150160057yeah all my furries tend to just kinda handwave the fur/skin thing for the purposes of being HOT AS FUCK so i do stuff like freckles or tattoos even though logically it makes no sense
>>150160973i too suck at environmentsthis guy has a fun kinda daventure time feel to him . but uh don't be afraid to use guide lines and shit to keep things centeredas for best rat dad, let me just do a lil 'redlining' as we say in the biz.. >>150161063i mean furries should have SPOT spots.. like a dalmatian or hyena.
>>150162318Thanks anon I might try to redraw this with the lines to see how it turns out. I didn't really use guidelines or anything I just sort of looked at different pictures of him and copied them as they were. It's why the legs turned out weird is because I couldn't figure out how to best fit them in with the other parts. The other big thing I struggle with is shading, it feels like I lose a lot of detail when trying to draw things I'm looking at because of it.
>>150162726yep, it's something I resisted in my art for a LONG fuckin time.. but it really helps a lot and I wish I'd given in sooner. of course, on paper, that kinda sucks, and leaves you with a bunch of extra lines, but.. that's why people used to sketch in blue, and then use a photocopying method that ignores the blue.>that meta ridleyfuckin bonzer.
>>150150899>Isn't being able to use references and copying what you see one of the fundamental skills needed in learning to drawyes, but you also should be able to understand the basic forms of the subject without looking at it, and drawing it in different perspectives.
>>150162927This is the part I have the most trouble with, being stereoblind. my brain never learned how to think of things in 3d. i'm always doing drawings that show the front and back of something at the same time.
>>150162947That sucks to hear anon, I honestly don't know what to say to fix something like that. Maybe this video will helphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGs8-xBForM&list=PLtG4P3lq8RHFSW-SgbBpo3k-xq9H_tdE6&index=6&ab_channel=Proko
>>150135793Not giving up yet
>>150162997that's basically what I've been studyingit makes sense while i'm looking at it, but my mindpalace is still weirdly flatit doesn't help that I studied a lot of newspaper comics and spritecomics and/or 2d games..
>>150153643Kino, should be an episode
>>150150684>yeah I started from stick people in 2018Where do you get the time to practice?
>>150163587Thx anon appreciate the compliment ^_^
>>150163745neetdom, but even then I honestly don't spend that much time drawing. I end up doing around an hour and a half a day
>>150135793I started trying last year, I'm 29. I have a full time job, a small video game studio I'm trying to get off the ground with a friend, and I'm doing flight training multiple times a week. Still, in the little spare time I have, I am grinding away at art because what I really want to do is draw lewd webcomics with heartfelt character-driven stories and sexual content that caters directly to my fetishes.
>>150164697that's fucking awesome, dude. Ganbare.sometimes I see people in similar situations to me, and I wonder if we should collaborate.
>>150164722Thank you!I think at this point I am still very much a liability rather than an asset in any art collab. My anatomy and perspective are shaky, I haven't progressed in colors/shading/lighting beyond flats (shading and color theory are next on my list to focus on), and I keep bashing my head against the wall of my own autistic face blindness to try and get my characters' faces to look consistent.
>>150164763heh, fair. Just the game dev guys I work for seem like too small a team, and I often wonder if combining forces would work better.
>>150135793I passively took an interest in drawing during my early and mid teens. I had a friend who drew really cool anime type drawings that was considerably better than me and I became pretty down over it because at the time I came away with the conclusion that you just have to be "wired" for it (born with the gift ect). I only realized years later that he was tracing images he found online (I'm in my 40's right now, so back when I was a teen getting images off the internet to trace was a lot easier to hide).I stumbled into a bunch of webcomics in my mid 20's and got the itch to tell stories through art. There was a big part of me that was sorta jealous of the sort of attention I felt those authors got at the time. I never felt like I was particular smart or skilled at anything, I was working at blockbuster at the time and didn't have a direction in life, so "succeeding" by making a hit webcomic became a.....thing to me. I didn't want it JUST for attention though, I really wanted to tell a story.I practiced in earnest for a few years and had some real initial gains imitating art styles I liked, but never landed the fundamentals. I managed to get like 15k followers on tumblr before it imploded drawing fandom art, but all of my art was basically just character floating in white space and occasionally furry boob pinups. Kinda gave up on art again because I could never get the discpline to really study on top of feeling like I was just too old to start all of this after failing to start a comic for awhile.Had an itch to try again now that I'm in my 40's and have a more mature look at how natural talent wasn't really a thing, I just needed to practice with discipline, but that was about when AI was taking off. I've sorta watched how its changed the internet and I just lost interest again. So I guess I truly gave up at 44, just a few years ago.
>>150164806god, those were the days.. isn't it weird that ours is the ONLY generation that will ever know this?>natural talent wasn't really a thingit is, it's just not nearly what people think it is.anyway, ungiveup. do some art right now.
>>150164806There will always be an audience for art and stories made by real people, anon. I recently managed to convince my dad to get back into painting now that he's retired at 56, after 20 years of doing almost none of it. I've never seen him happier. Don't let that part of you die.
>>150139582whats she from?
>>150164924I believe that is anon's OCit'd be weird to do this kind of turnaround for a character that isn't yours, and weirder still to post an official turnaround in a thread about not giving up drawing
>>150164992i guessi should have been more spescific and asked if there a comic shes in?
>>150165404oooh yeah I also want to see anon's project.
>>150165404>>150165420Sure, if you want. She's from my fantasy comic, Heaven Forbid. It's slow going, but I'm working on it. Just quit a bunch of other things that were taking up my time, so hopefully I'll be able to get back to it. https://heavenforbid.cfw.me/The turnaround is more recent than any of the pages, though.
I drew this. does it count for something?
>>150135793I always wanted to do this, was drawing and even trying to animate when I was 7 on paper, until I got pirated Flash and started making terrible web animations. This all led to me going to school for animation and now working in the industry.I did have a crossroads though, because when I applied to the school I didn't get in the first time and when I went to their portfolio review I was basically told I sucked (in a constructive and friendly way) but on my way home after that I was basically just thinking "Huh, I guess this was the wake up call. Time to stop with this silliness and grow up and get a normal job" Luckily they had recommended an art class they provided and that ramped up my skills enough to apply again and get in.
Is it even worth it to start drawing now with AI?
>>150166888Yes. You shouldn’t be dependent on a machine to make art
>>150166888Honestly people will think less of you
>>150166888Yeah. The ability of AI has been pretty overblown by tech companies to get investor money, and isn't going to deliver on the promises they made simply because of how it works. There's a lot AI either can't do or struggles with at best, and a lot of people just don't like AI art. It's also a kind of personal investment and brings of a lot of fulfillment.>>150167729Crab mentality
>>150166888If you find the hassle rewarding, I guess. I find drawing to be troublesome than it's worth but I don't wanna type prompts either
>>150135793What can we draw?
>>150166888Nope.
>>150136371funny
>>150135793I'm that good at drawing but at least I found people who like my stuff.
