>I do not like thing x>but I will make countless threads/videos about thing x>I will talk nonstop about thing x>I will dedicate infinite energy towards thing x>but by golly jee do I hate thing xWhat causes this? The Owl House, Amphibia, My Adventures with Superman, Harley Quinn, Steven Universe, Legend of Korra, and that's just some of the cartoons.
Yellowflash and Hero Hei on suicide watch
>"I like X">"I also like X">"Me too">"...">*Thread 404s in a couple of hours after 10 posts at best*Vs>"I fucking hate X, literally the cancer killing the industry">"Yeah fuck X, , here is a list of why it sucks">"Nah I think y is worse than X">"Fuck you guys, I like X">*Thread has a debate on X with sides passionately debating their opinion*Being a negative Nancy is easier than being a positive Polly on the internet because not only are humans more sensitive to the flaws of something than good, or negativity being seen as more intelligent than positivity or it's easier to tear apart something than praise it but also the algorithms will pay you attention and . money to hate something. Even hating haters is more profitable than liking something. So hate watching is just more rewarded.
>>150142025That's kind of sad.
>>150142025>>*Thread has a debate on X with sides passionately debating their opinion*Come on now.. it devolves into a circle jerk at best.HNNNNNN I HATE XYEAHH BROOO FUCK XXXXXONLY TRANNIES LIKE XXX HNNNNGGGGThat's what you're getting.
>>150141768Youtubers whose whole gimmick is hating everything
>>150141753>What causes this?Autism
>>150142025>So hate watching is just more rewarded.For the mentally handicapped.
>I like we baby bears>I post we baby bears>1 reply (me) self bumping
>>150141753add that kpop show to the mix
>>150142393Good
>>150141753>Legend of KorraThat one actually makes sense, if you're already invested and have sunk cost fallacy pushing you to finish your commitment.
>>150142054Kek.
>>150142403It's a movie
>>150141768>>150142226Frankly I'm just kind of sick of it all. Things that are bad should be called bad but after that you need to let it go. Remember back even in the 2000s when a bad movie came out? People would just move on and never talk about it again. Now we got e celeb fucknuts spending every waking minute reminding us about bad things. They're doing more to keep the shitty stuff alive in the public conscious than they are to fix things. But they don't want to fix things do they. They want outrage views.
>>150142403Oh? People hate it? Why?
>>150142025I am a huge /m/ fag and I can verify this is absolutely true.So many great series where there's just nothing in particular to discuss since the whole fanbase is on the same page. But that unfortunately means there's not much to discuss. So most of the board is Gundam sub-fanbases shitposting in each other's threads and coomers.
>>150142403Watching and disliking a single movie isn't really that weird though.
>>150142431Yes. Outrage views, good way to put it. I don't care if people dislike or outright hate a series I personally enjoyed. I just grow increasingly tired of infinite threads where people just gather around to circle jerk their dislike of it.
>>150141753You think I WANTED to watch this? I wanted to watch Toonami, but CN decided it was their fucking dumping ground for kids cartoons for no fucking reason.
>>150141768>659k subs>barely cracks 100k viewsooof.https://www.youtube.com/@HeroHei/videos
>>150142485You could always.. change the channel
>>150142491Stop signal boosting bad Youtubers. Or just admit why you watch them and stop pretending you don't.
>>150141753Short answer: people are desperate for a sense of community and disliking something brings an easy sense of community.Long answer: in some ways things have changed in many ways nothing has changed. Geeks and fandoms have always attracted specific autists who go too far. That being said, the issue is that the internet and the psychology of internet communication often breeds extremes of absolute love or absolute hatred. This is combined with the psychology of current consumerism. You've heard of rage bait and how rage easily creates an emotional hook. In some ways I think this is a direct result of this:>There is too much content nowadays.>Entertainment is isn't this show vs that show but podcasts, games, books, streaming, everything.>But a lot of content aims for the mainstream audience.>But committee made content, particularly franchises, often pleases no one.>Choice paralysis of too much content AND too much content paradoxically feels similar so little choice.>People fling themselves onto comfort viewing because of burn out.>Or people fling themselves into extremes of highs and lows.>Loving something instantly makes you part of the community but conversely builds an inflated bubble of hype.>Hating something usually means seeing through a hype bubble and the expectations of the hype not meeting the reality, hence why people think everything is overrated now.>Overrated is an overused word that more or less means: I get tricked by hype bubbles.>Expectation is the thief of joy.How we communicate online and how we consume combines together to change our expectations of something. In the past, if you rented a movie and it was bad you'd probably still watch it through. Now if you watch a streaming show that was heavily hyped you don't give it a chance because you can just watch something else so you call it overhyped. An overabundance of choice and options often leads you to fleeting and impulsive decision making and more volatile emotions.
>>150142506>See youtuber name>curious>go check out their channel>post their shit falling apartSorry that your channel is dying Hei.
>>150142503It airs after midnight. The only alternative is going to sleep.
>>150142519>The only alternative is going to sleep
>>150142532Don't just repeat what I said, actually respond to it if you have an issue.
>>150141753I know /tv/ experiences the same shit, mainly with Star Wars and the MCU nowadays. Does /mu/ have hate listeners? /a/? I'm curious
>>150142511I just want to have threads about things I like that don't devolve into shit flinging and calling everyone trannies.
I'll be honest, I have not watched any of the shows that people here talk about the most, and I don't really plan to.The exceptions being the actual adult shows, stuff like Venture Bros, Smiling Friends, R&M (sans the last 2 or 3 seasons), Ballmasterz 9000, The Shivering Truth, Common Side Effects, etc. etc.Unfortunately, since it seems like the adult cartoon animation networks are either committing suicide or dedicated to pumping out nothing but really bad, lame, and boring sitcoms, I have a lot less to talk about when it comes to cartoons these days, so I mostly just lurk.
>>150141753At some point retards on the internet will learn that haters ENJOY hating. It's fun to criticize things, that's why people do it so often. You'd think the "LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS" crowd would understand this
>>150142644/a/ definitely has hate-watchers, but only for the popular/actually good stuff. The closest you'll get is when people watch an anime original that looks like/is an absolute trainwreck, or when one of the mega-autists on the board feels like they got yuribaited and decides to spend the rest of a season shitting up threads for an anime original with their gaggle of counter-poster retards because it's not as gay as they were hoping it'd be.No one hate-watches generic low-quality seasonal fantasy/isekai anime because they're mostly just boring, same way no one here hate-watches the modern Cartoon Network lineup shit like Elliot from Earth or We Baby Bears.
>>150141753It's simple, it's like an anti-fandom that allows you to discuss something without watching it. Instead of sharing cutesy fanart and ships you post about stuff you hate without needing to discuss anything about the plot.
>>150142761>feels like they got yuribaited and decides to spend the rest of a season shitting up threads for an anime original with their gaggle of counter-poster retards because it's not as gay as they were hoping it'd beThings that never happened
>>150142692Too bad. By executive order of the hivemind, all MAWS threads must be about interracial porn.
>>150142718Hating and criticizing are two different thing
>>150142786No, I absolutely saw that shit happen in real-time in the Akiba Maid War threads when that was airing.
>>150142770So you just spend threads lying about it then since you've never watched it?
>>150142718"LET PEOPLE HATE THINGS"
>>150142807Why else do you think people spam out of context panels/frames to rage over?
>>150142805There are plenty of yuri /a/ shows to watch where ya don't have to worry about being baited. Since it.. just happens.Oh Gushing Over Magical Girls my beloved. Filtering so many fucking normie anime 'fans' in the process.
>>150142798... Will it at least be Clark and Lois interracial porn?
>>150142832That's fine, but the megautists I mentioned do absolutely shit up threads where they feel like they were baited.Then their associated counter-autist comes in to spam his "dyke slayer" folder and they argue for a few hours then get mass-deleted.Thank god for 4chanX wordfilters, with how bad things are nowadays the site would be fucking unusable without them.
>>150142800They really aren't, at least not in places like /co/. People hate things because they have critiques. Only the lowest retards just spam "X SHOW SUCKS", it's always accompanied with criticism. You can critique without hating, being all civil and faggy, but hating requires critique to some extent>>150142819This. So much this.
>>150142904The problem is that those retards you mention make up like 80% of the threads.
>>150141753People love to seethe on the internet. Remember how there were two He-Man shows that came out at the same time and /co/ made nonstop threads about the one they hated and rarely talked about the one everyone liked? That's /co/ in a nutshell.
>>150141768Who are some other noteworthy youtubers who do that shit
>>150142876>Thank god for 4chanX wordfiltersPerhaps its time I invest in this
>>150142718>At some point retards on the internet will learn that haters ENJOY hatingI don’t even believe this these days, what with culturewarfags being so constantly enraged that it seems like even they don’t remember why they’re upset anymore
>>150142981Was it really that bad
>>150143004It's not true hate, it's regurgitating others' hate
>>150142998Absolutely go for it, with how easy it is to ban evade nowadays it's basically your only effective tool for filtering out all the annoying spam, schizos, low-functioning autists, and culture war shit.
>>150142981learn2game theory. Nonstop complaining is the only way to affect anything in this bitch of an earth
>culture warDefine that
>>150143042>thing doesn’t have trannies but I whine that it has trannies in it while I pretend to be white (I’m very brown)
>>150142904>it's always accompanied with criticism.Often all that "criticism" "accompanying" the KYS spam is even more retarded nonsense like "why are there gay people" and "the creators are SJWs".
>>150142876>Then their associated counter-autist comes in to spam his "dyke slayer" folder and they argue for a few hours then get mass-deleted.I wonder if its as cringe as I imagine
>>150143042It's like faggotry, you know it when you see it and it's not entirely subjective.
>>150142849No. It can only be about how anons feel emasculated by black men being near Aryan women.
>>150143051>>150143062now kiss
>>150143042Twatter/reddit screenshot spam.
>>150142832>Oh Gushing Over Magical Girls my beloved. Filtering so many fucking normie anime 'fans' in the process.Except the normies love that show and think it's "progressive".
>>150143064
>>150143087HAHAHAHAHAHA who are you trying to fool son? Was that in between them crying about it being pedo diddy ahhhhh anime? People who like that show are not normies.
>>150142953Granted>>150143004>>150143051At some point it crosses a border into culturewars faggotry, which is slightly different. Culturewarfags don't enjoy their hate, but it makes them feel important. They're not a guy who works a job and rents an apartment, they're based patriots defending the country from marxism or righteous resisters to the orange man. As for culturewar influencers, they're just getting paid>>150143042I can't define it, but I know it when I see it
>>150143110>Culturewarfags don't enjoy their hate, but it makes them feel important.I wouldn't really say there's much difference between enjoyment and satisfaction/self-validation. They're honestly synonyms.
>>150143042Its when things are not made LITERALLY FOR ME. And Me only. When the MC is not a straight WHITE male with a chiseled jaw that I can self insert into. That is when I am ATTACKED by SJWs and TRANNIES..
>>150143107I hate to bring up ecelebs, but then this thread already did so in the first post. Gigguk and Geoff Thew shilled Gushing hard as "woke" in their seasonal videos. They're typically the measuring rod for what the normies are into.
>>150143141So why did you watch Adventure Time when Finn is a chinless noodle
Speaking of criticism, something I find interesting about modern 4chan is that while it’s nominally an anonymous website, you can distinctly tell more than ever that there’s a non-insignificant amount of people who spend all day fuming at shit they don’t like in such a way that you can tell they’re deliberately obfuscating the ACTUAL reason why they’re upset, and this is especially noticeable when it comes to even moderately successful indie material.
>>150142511This. Hatedoms and hatewatching are, at their core, about collective participation and a sense of community. It's roughly similar to medieval people getting together to watch a hanging or throw rocks at a leper. The feeling of having a community of people who agree with you on something, and doing a collective activity alongside them, even if this activity is just shitposting for years about a show you hate, is addicting for many people because it allows them to feel, briefly, like they have a close friend group where they belong, even if it's only an illusion.
>>150141753
>>150141768Hero Hei was just the most prolific of RWBY hatewatchers. There was a good bunch of them a few years ago, but when RT went down so did their channels because it's not like they had anything else to offer.
>>150143278Why are you hate watching the hate watchers?
>>150143303Fatmanfalling's clique shifted over to being drama Youtubers. Seems like they were always parasites.
>>150143346Just speaking from my personal experience from when I used to do that shit.
>>150143346Nobody's recced me any better Youtubers or bloggers talking about anime or cartoons.
>>150142692Well one suggestion would be: create actual threads with content, respond to substantive posts and don't constantly resort to making meta threads to complain. We can talk about all the problems until the cows come home but ultimately you need to try and make good threads and avoid responding to bad faith. Most angry people are operating on no knowledge or half baked knowledge and can't go into any depth. Avoid them.>>150143278Like I said, in some ways things change and in other ways nothing changes. People get joy tearing things down. Online especially I think the way things are set up often create scenarios where saying you like something is akin to circling the wagons and preparing a defense. It is plainly easy to tear things down and have that sense of community from it.If I expanded it too I think people want to feel things over others as well, like feeling clever because you dislike something someone is invested it. Conversely though people will be super offended when others attack the things they are invested in and not realise the irony.
>>150141753>My Adventures with Superman,Fuck YouI liked MAWS.
>>150141753>>150141768>>150142226>>150142431Nobody gives a fuck about how much you hate Youtubers.
>>150142695There is adult stuff coming out on streaming of varying quality but /co/ ignores it because it doesn't get spoonfed to them.>Pantheon>Blue Eyed Samurai>Scavengers' Reign>Twilight of the Gods>Onyx Equinox>Vox Machina>Iyanu
>>150143719>Iyanu>adult stuffIs that a fucking joke?
>>150143042When discussion revolves around bickering about cultural topics rather than the media itself
>>150142025Pretty much this, if we both like it, it garners relatively little discussion. If we both hate it, we'll went a lot about it, and draw in people who like it, and will also talk.
>>150143732Haven't seen it myself admittedly, just added to the list when I saw it on /co/ some time ago.
>>150143793Anon, that's a Cartoon Network show, it is not adult in any way, shape, or form.
>>150142805I saw it in the Gridman threads, those posters have been around awhile
>>150143749So a good portion of he threads on /co/ then
>>150142025autistic antisocial people, I hate you all.
>>150143685Don't post AIslop
>>150143829Then why did it hold Toonami hostage instead of premiering at 7 or 8pm
>>150143712>Cared enough to reply
>>150143168>Gigguk and Geoff Thew shilled Gushing hard as "woke" in their seasonal videosA show about a girl who becomes an evil magical girl and then begins to use BDSM on her idols, the three heroic magical girls is woke? Bullshit, normies called it diddy ahhhh anime pedo bait.
>>150144003It didn't. Iyanu premiered at like 9 in the morning.I don't think it's ever been shown on Toonami, and honestly, I wouldn't really call most of Toonami's fare "adult" either, since they not only show mostly shounen on the anime side, but have also gotten multiple cartoons that were clearly made with CN in mind (Unicorn Warriors and MAWS).
>>150143194People want to be victims
>>150143278>My community circle jerks over our hatred for this cartoonWow.. what a community
>>150143719>>Vox MachinaNOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS WOKE DEI TRANNY SLOPPPPPPPP (even though the main characters all get in straight relationships and 2 of those couples have children)
>>150144087Bro is arguing with nobody
>>150143685
>>150143685That makes one of us!
>>150144186Bro is roleplaying as all the goalpost moving fuck heads from a thread about straight couples in modern cartoons from a while ago.
>>150144226>Being this mad over an argument from another thread which has already ended
>>150144272Someone felt called out I see.
his suit looked so much better in s1 and it wasn't even that good to begin with
his suit looked so much better in s2 and it was very good to begin with.
>>150144334At least it’s not as bad as Kara’s
>>150141753Or the entire industry just sucks. You wouldn't be getting laid off otherwise, would you?
>>150141768i wish
>>150144031Oh. Thought you were talking about MAWS, not Iyanu. Didn't bother with that show because I'd already suffered through one butt-ugly show trying to sell itself on having a black female lead.
>>150144028>diddy ahhhhWe speak English here.
>>150141753Misery loves company
>>150144965Lois isn't black through
>>150145650Pretty sure he's talking about Invincible Fight Girl.That one actually WAS on Toonami, and it was also another kid's show that was clearly made for CN.
>>150145677Why the fuck do they do this to ToonamiWhy can't they just post it on HBO out of the blue if they hate cable so much
>>150145001I'm just using the language they use to get their.. "points" across.
>>150145677>Invincible Fight Girl.Beckett Mariner?!
>>150146891I don't want to argue with people who use demonization as their logic.
>>150141753>watched that AT thread an hour or so ago>watch it devolve into people screaming cuck, troon, agp, and other such shit
>>150141753Victim complexes.
>>150142718I wish there were actual critcism instead of crying jews, lgbt, blacks, commies, feminists, liberals, marxism dei blah blah blah
>>150148881Those are actual criticisms, troon.
>meta threads complaining about the state of things will get more comments than threads trying to talk about a subjectKind of answering your own question here
>>150143719Twilight of the Gods is filled with Zack Snyder's weird sex fetishes. There's a literal tranny and his furry bodyguard.>>150143006Revelation was terrible. Revolution was actual pretty good because it actually focuses on Skeletor and He-Man.
>>150143901sure
>>150143194At some point people got the idea that just because you could, to some extent, shit post you were then somehow also obligated to.
>>150141753The industry suddenly forgot how to make good cartoons after doing it for 90 years. There's nothing left to do but hate watch.
>>150151032They make good cartoons all the time, you guys just whine about em
>>150151049Denial
>>150141753Hate is a very strong emotion.
>>150148893Then where are they
>>150152027The Finncels seem pretty emotional.
>>150152556Stfu troon
>>150152704That sure is some criticism you're giving. Really convincing I bet.
>>150152769NTA but you think this >>150152556 is thoughtful criticism?
>>150152782NTA but this is really on the same level as the average AT discussion on /co/. I understand how it gets annoying and tiring when you see an AT thread and it's full of people complaining that Finn didn't explicitly get laid for the millionth time because nothing else in the entire series mattered apparently.
>>150152782I didn't say it was thoughtful. I said Adventure Time threads are a cancerous cesspool of insecure people too scared of NSFW content to post on /r9k/.
>>150152925>>150152959Ok, but OP didn’t mention Adventure Time
>>150153098They didn't mention RWBY either, but look at the first post in the thread.
>>150143095>So BTFO that he deleted his postLOL
>>150141753I don't hatewatch. I don't give chances anymore. I watched the Force Awakens and decided that the entire Disney Trilogy is not worth watching. I watched season 2 of Castlevania and decided that it was dogshit and refused to watch the rest. All Western Netflix "anime" is also marked. Beware the Batman was shit and I didn't bother with the Cape Crusader. People said that Be Cool Scooby Doo was good despite the art style so I watched some clips. They were wrong; it is only good compared to Velma which I also didn't watch. I don't watch MCU movies. I didn't watch Fallout.The chad option is to not give corpo slop any chances. Don't watch and just call it shit.
>>150154006So what do you watch instead
>>150154324I watch old stuff or new stuff by smaller companies.
>>150154408Are you the guy I talked to during that "One Drop Rule" thread?
>>150152450Read the thread
>>150143194They got rid of IP counters for a reason because a lot of boards have declining numbers and you're all arguing with the same few people.
>>150154823It's mostly people saying they don't watch anything anymore because they're disillusioned in modern cartoons.
>>150141753Its fine to keep up with a show you aren't enjoying and discuss why you aren't enjoying it if you enjoy the overall property. The problem is there are too many frothing sperglords that make it their only defining personality trait. At that point you're not having a nuanced discussion about the show or franchise's faults, you're just throwing poop at a window.
>>150142986Revsaysdesu
>>150155833That christcuck is going to cheer censorship to own the liberals
>>150155833Are there any Youtubers who aren't cringe?
