I genuinely wish furries NEVER existed. They ruined everything for the people who just like drawing cartoon animals. When my stuff gets called "furry" I get so unbelievably discouraged. The label takes away all meaning from my art , because most furry art is meaningless eye candy, or really gross NSFW shit. some person sent me furry art the other day which makes me think that they think I'm a furry who's into this shit. NO!! I hate furries man I just wanna be a cartoonist! But it feels like I'll never be one as long as I draw cartoon animals. No I do not want to draw humans, I have never been interested in drawing humans. But I feel like I'll have to force myself to in order to get away from the nasty ass furry community.
>>150143996I like fluffy women.
>>150143996I feel your pain op...which is why I advice you to do what southamericans did, which is clearly separate themselves from them.hold the line and pioneer a way to make your art exactly how you like it, just like those artists down there who made history in thay regard...make your art touch themes that would give any furry a cognitive dissonant brain attack.just keep on drawing and pushing forwards, make it great your own way and unlike the guy who made bikini cowboy you'll be great at it.
>>150144630calvin and hobbes ain't considered a furry fest nor peanuts neither any old comic with your art and vision in mind.keep on moving and hold that line, make it the hill you die on op and make sure to discreetly kick out the furries, gatekeep your shit hard and don't bend the knee.
>>150143996>eyeshadowFound the problem, OP
>>150143996>I genuinely wish You have a wish? If you want it granted, you must fight 12 other riders to the death. Become a Kamen Rider. Destroy the other riders. Win.Then, your wish will be granted. Fight, OP. Fight. Fight.
>>150144874or...you could have a race against the best racers of many civilizations in the universe, if you win then you get a wish.simple right?
>>150144914...pardon me?
>>150143996>I genuinely wish furries NEVER existedI really don't understand people who say this. Humans have always wanted to be animals since humans are humans. If you don't want furries to exist, you don't want humans to exist.
>>150144935hey its far more fun than just fighting, we race with spaceships and hoverboards.and we can open fire on each other too.
>>150143996stop caring about what other people do or think and do what you want
>>150143996>the people who just like drawing cartoon animals.You mean furrys?
>>150143996If you don’t advertise your art as NSFW, the “furry” label won’t stick as readily. In the end, nobody can tell you what to draw and call your art unless you’re a little bitch who lets people get in your head
>>150144874Ryuki sucks
I stopped letting furries get to me and decided to accept that it'll happen regardless of influences.
>>150143996cartoon anthro animals that talk are by definition furries if you're defining furries as anthro animals
>>150143996just do what shawn keller does and draw what you want without calling yourself a furry and making fun of those who do
>>150143996Just keep doing what you're doing. The worst that can happen is that they'll throw a tantrum and try to have you banned from whatever platform you're posting on when you refuse to draw their embarrassing fetishes. Soon you'll earn a reputation for "kink shaming", which is a good thing if you want to disassociate.
>>150146674i was gonna post this screenshot from an old flash he made but the Renamon works too
>>150143996Being a furry involves it also being a life style thing and so long as you don't make jerking off to furry cartoon characters a life style thing and you don't call yourself a furry then you'll be fine
aight
Just ignore furries(the fursuit wearing ones) and do what you want People who are fans of funny animals is so far and wide that even the stereotypical furry art with cereal box mascot aesthetics feels like just one of them
Makes you think.
>>150143996Honestly OP, I seriously hope you don't give up and keep drawing cartoon animals. I feel the same way, have always had a soft spot for funny animal stuff but the furry fandom is absolute turboAIDS. And humans are boring.Just remember, every time you have the chance to tell a furfreak to fuck off with their fetishes you are doing the world a favor. Never stop.
>>150143996I have not seen a furry in nigh on over 15 years.
>>150143996What you want to do is hard because no one does it anymore. It's gonna make it a lonely and very difficult path but all the more meaningful, and if you are good at it, the recompense will be immense.
Keep pushing onward anon; anyone who insists you are a furry is either a normalfag retard who has no idea what the hell they're talking about, or a furry who is desperate for you to join the fandom (read: a hugboxing shitshow, sometimes literally).I will say though, if you are working with anthro, them furries WILL gravitate to your work; this is an undeniable fact. You cannot stop this overlap, you can only learn to live with it.
>>150144980Schizoid.
>>150144630TrueLatAms are anti-furry while still wanting to bang furriesIn fact, i think the majority of HMOFA and the like artists are from there
>>150146179I know it's you behind that keyboard Kekera, you fucking boomer.
>>150143996wow special snowflake please don't get hurt.dude who cares what people say. Do your shit. people who like it like it
>>150143996Your free to alienate your target audience, but it usually turns out poorly.
>>150151374>you must kiss the furry ring for a successfull audience or followingThat's a dialectic invented by furrys and is not actually true to life.
>>150151415>furry in denial goes schizolmao
>>150143996I don't know how to break this to you but a lot of the cartoon animal cartoonists of the past were basically degenerate proto-furries.
>>150143996You sound like a bigger faggot than the furries
>>150151429That's not schizo, that's just understanding internet myth
>>150151374most furry artists i know have removed the "furry" part, and now they call themselves "anthro" artist instead, and i agree with them, who wants to be in the same group that protects literal zoophiles and pedophiles
>>150151668>who wants to be in the same group that protects literal zoophiles and pedophilesGamers, republicans, weeaboos, 4chan posters...
>>150150866latam ironically became based due to people having common sense and keeping it that way.the smart latams will judge your actions over your words as all things should be...
>>150151904i triggered the furry, it seems
>>150151904>Gamers, republicans, weeaboos, 4chan posters...excellent bait anon
>>150152256Buddy I could not give less of a shit. You wanna try and sell furry art exclusively to non-furrys? Be my guest.
>>150151904you forgot, Furries
>>150152283damn, the furry is triggered at the fact there exist people who like the content the furry community puts out, but abhor their disgusting behavior
>>150152291>people who like the content the furry community puts out, but abhor their disgusting behaviorYes. Those are called furrys.
>>150152294nah, those people know how terrible the fandom actually is, so they distance themselves from it, only enjoy the contentthey're anything but furries, anon
>>150152291Stella is my favorite demon chicken. I want to suck her tits. She makes me cum.
>>150143996Sounds like you have a "being a little bitch" problem, OP.
>>150152314i prefer Octavia
>>150152307Participating in the fandom is not what makes you a furry, anon. Enjoying furry content is what makes you a furry.
>>150151904What's with the "..."?What groups are you leaving out coward!?
>>150152346>>150152307I cannot fathom being such an obnoxious, insecure, pathetic little faggot that the term "furry" triggers you so hard.Who fucking cares what qualifies as furry? It has literally no impact on your life whatsoever.
>>150152361being considered as degenerate as lolicon pedo niggers is fucking bad, actually
>>150152402Where the fuck do you think you are you stupid little bitch
>ITT: /co/‘s in-house furniggers are appalled that people don’t wanna be associated with furniggers just for liking a type of character design
>>150152519>ITT OP is a whiny little bitch throwing a tantrum over meaningless labelsAs ironic as it is to say to someone's on 4chan: you need to grow up
am I a furry if I wanna fuck big animal women? Not being dommed by them, but making them my housewife
>>150152538Depends on who you ask, there is not set in stone definition. But most people will say yes.
>>150152531>l-labels are meaningless because, b-because they JUST ARE!! OKAY?!you fucking braindead furniggers
>>150152607Keep crying and seething kiddo
>>150143996draw humans instead it's much better
>>150146179>ryuki sucks>uses kr blade imageYour not slick>>150143996Also dude just keep drawing your cartoon animals. Just dont harbor typical furry traits and you'll be fine
>>150151904Based and truthpilled.
>>150143996Autistic people should be put in death camps.
>>150144874YUME YO ODORE
>>150143996just stop being a whiny faggot you stupid asshole
>>150150866hmofa is furry content
Waah, waah, waaah.Blow it out your ass.
What makes a cartoon animal look like a furry fandom art vs just looking like a cartoon animal?The bluey subreddit is fine with pic related, but gets angry if the fanart looks too much like furry fanart
>>150143996What is the definitive anti-furry artstyle?
>>150143996Sauce for this drawing?
Honestly dude just keep doing what you do. If you want to avoid to hang out with the typical furry crowd and not bring in undesirable, you can do exactly. Labels barely mean anything it comes to dumb shit like "-furry".
>>150156373Norman Rockwell paintings?
>>150153194Ryuki squandered all it's potential. It introduced interesting concepts then went nowhere with them. The card decks might as well have been spell books, no one ever gained or lost any cards, and they weren't even shuffled, they just somehow draw the card the want off the top every time. Blade took the card concept and actually used it.
>>150153194Drawing cartoon animals IS the typical furry traits.
>>150150866This cope again?
>>150158036What cope
>>150159035The cope that /HMOFA/gs aren't furries
>>150159180saying hmofa makes you furry is like saying being straight makes you a tranny
>>150159194saying it's not furry is like saying being into trannies isn't gay
>>150143996It's not just you. The entire world moved away from this. It's the same reason there are less and less companies using animals as characters for movies and videogames.
I think it’s entirely reasonable for someone who simply thinks anthro girls are hot to not wanna be put in the same group as “people” who piss in diapers while wearing mascot costumes
>>150159283Says who? You?
crazy how effective every single somethingawful troon psyop truly was, so much so that even now 20+ years later retards like OP still fall for them, it's a shame lowtax's parents didn't use a condom
>>150159759>lowtaxWho?
>>150143996Then draw humans, or stfu and learn to deal with being associated with furries. Those are your options. >not leaning into the furry thing and making a lot of money from commissions Skill issue.
>>150159479>someone who simply thinks anthro girls are hotIt's a curse I tells ya>furry fandom is a toxic cesspit>/hmofa/ is another toxic cesspit>shunned by normalfags>your fantasies are incompatible with reality
>>150159719Back in the day we had Mikey mouse, looney toons, pokemon, basically all movies and cartoon used animals as characters, it was a the main trend. But then with the spread of internet and it's bad influence (furries being one of those), this trend died and there are less and less medium using animals as characters.
>>150159770Guy behind The Somthing Awful forums
>>150159479Honestly this. I think anthro characters can be cool but all the weird fetish shit ruins the vibe for me. >>150159283Which coincided with rising use of realism faggtory and brown doo doo shit. I wished we could go back but I get it.
Make me bitch
>>150159788>>/hmofa/ is another toxic cesspit99% of the time it’s 1-2 people starting shit, which is enough to ruin the thread because of how 4chan works. Meanwhile the furry fandom as a whole is an entirely different beast, there is no arguing around this
>>150159479too fucking bad, you're a furry, deal with it
>>150160244Well yes, while /hmofa/ is mostly just autists and shitposters the furry fandom harbors genuinely depraved people
>>150143996Kys faggot
>>150160374So does 4chan, but that isn't stopping any of us from coming here.
>>150160374>we am depraved for more complex and naunced reasons than them.>>150143996You have to make peace with all the horrible people living on this planet, by beating them with the hobbies/job of your choosing. I am curious what the person sent you, if it was a fetish fest or some other character that looked like yours.
>>150152291>Furry whining about other furries
>>150160438>>we am depraved for more complex and naunced reasons than them.Bunch of dumbasses on /trash/ ≠ genuine child rapists and animal abusers
>>150156739It comes from this profile https://www.furaffinity.net/user/surfingdogcreations/ but it DFE'd at some point (and is probably OP)Wayback Machine and Furarchiver has none of the art saved, at best you have a bunch of cached images from the furaffinity profile and tiktok of all fucking places under the tags of "90s furry comic" and "changed furry comic". She/He had a comic called "different patterns of guilt" featuring thge same character.Anyway, OP's a blatant furfag that probably got into some drama and now wants to quit the furry fandom in the same way shmorky did. GET BTFO'D
>>150160823hmmm, sounds like you know more than you are letting on
>>150160915SauceNAO OP's image and you'll get the same results. Also the Character is named Ed.
>>150160823I want to fuck all those characters.
>>150160389Yoo crunchobar fan?
>>150160823So he got his pic from furaffinity?OP not beating the furry allegations.
>>150160560You're part of the same group, like it or not. HMOFA on furaffinity has thousands of posts with thousands of favorites
>>150161074
>>150157993Alright I can understand that. Specifically concepts being dropped.That one time when shinji realizing couldn't promise to end the war without hurting
i think the biggest mistake was that being a furry used to mean being a part of a specific culture, but now it just means any sort of anthro characters in general. and because of that said culture managed to get such a strangle hold on the concept of anthro animals.although on another note, it is interesting seeing new types of people evolve out of this "extended furry culture". like /hmofa/ who obsess over not being furrys or the people who pretend to be furries because they fell for the "suspiciously wealthy" meme.
I mean keep doing what you do dude. Just ignore the other furries.
>>150161342>they fell for the "suspiciously wealthy" meme.Normie artists are so fucking stupid. They got tricked into thinking every furshitter is part of the 1% or is in a high-paying STEM position. They got lied to by a gaggle of equally retarded tiktokers.
>>150161172Remember episode 1 when they revealed that you can only leave the mirror dimension through the specific mirror you entered from? Remember when Ouja left his getaway car abandoned to make it look like he used it's rearview to get to the mirror world, thus tricking all of his enemies into entering the same mirror, while in reality he was still in the real world where that mirror was left undefended? Remember when he immediately just follows them all in so he can fight them 1v3 and the same-mirror concept is never brought up again in the series?
>>150161801Also makes shinjis moral delema kind of pointless when all he has to do is just smash the decks and kill the advent monsters. Hes done it like twice before too.Even though ryuki is my favorite almost half of the stuff this questionable.
>>150160823Some more archivedhttps://furarchiver.net/Artist/Gallery?artist=surfingdogcreations
>>150162880Uh, kino?
>>150143996And how can take off that stygma?
>>150144980Only a furry would look at human history is such a fucking RETARDED way. Most people of that time were bored when they weren't hunting, and surviving, so they created stories of what they saw in the world around them. Comparing them to today's braindead coomers is so unimaginably pornsick that it defies belief.
>>150145177Furries only existed in infinitesimally small numbers on the Internet back in the 90's. Absolutely NONE of those goofy animal cartoon characters, and their creators back then were furries. You are urgently overdue for your meds.
>>150146403No they're not you fucking retard. Furries are made by porn addicted freaks for masturbating to, and needed the Internet, or an unholy congregation of brain AIDS infected city slicker rejects, to get any traction.You are so fucking desperate for acceptance from everyone else for your putrid fetish that you need to lie like a delusional schizo in a desperate and hopeless attempt to obfuscate what you really are. Don't bother, you cunt. You're not convincing a single fucking person no matter how much you bullshit.
>>150148315Umm... No...? They're just brightly saturated generic animal characters in order to market sugar to children. Don't act like the cereal companies put any more thought into them than throwing a dart at an elementary school animal poster, and paying the intern graphic designer a five dollar bonus to sketch that onto a postcard in twenty minutes, and calling it a day.
>>150143996It's a good idea to learn to draw humans as it will force you to observe more which can enrich your imagination when you do draw your animal characters, not to mention the skills. The difference of competence between someone who can draw a human face and someone who's spent their whole life avoiding it is massive. As for looking "furry", I won't encourage stylistic self-censorship, but large areas of tuft where human hair would go (unless it's a lion) is a give away. Also, simply avoid looking at any cartoon animals created after the 80s (or by Chuck Jones if you want to be mega anti-furry purist) because that's what the first furries were brought up on and influenced the industry with when they grew up. But honestly, there's no avoiding at least one person finding a drawing sexually attractive.
>>150165095Do you support the LGBT?
>>150165160Yes, but there's the rise of a recent Twitter furry art style which is about being poorly drawn, minimal, and with bright pastel colors, usually without anything explicitly sexual going on, but has lewd undertones and a voluptuousness that harkens back to the prehistoric Venus figurine. Its crudeness is its power as it bold shapes prohibits teens development of taste of the finer, subtler things in women and instead roots them in this primitive archetypal image. As bright, screaming primary colors overstimulate the colorful fruit instinct, rather than finer, more beautiful color palettes which encourage "hunting for the fruit".
>>150165480Yeah, me and my dad go to the pride parades together.
>>150165505>me and my dad>my dadThat's very Californian of him.
>>150165512He's been going to these things since before I was born.
>>150165515He's been that much of a Californian?
The "Am I a furry?" Test:>Explain to Chad and Stacy Normalfag what your fetish is>If they say it makes you a furry, you're a furry.
>>150165522No, he was a soldier for a while before he became a policeman. Got fired from that and became a construction worker, got into being a biker, then a cowboy until he discovered his native american heritage.
>>150165540>cowboyA Californian cowboy?!
>>150165544No. A macho man.
>>150143996They're not. Next thread.
>>150165547A macho Californian?! There's no such thing. Unless you're talking about latinos, but they're mostly illegals running on food stamps and don't count.
>>150165570He's a macho macho man.
>>150143996I am going to say it I hate that anime are always associated w/ humans and waifus/loli/hentaiIt is bad enough that when you only stick with humans you are seen as low rate live action without the creativity to create something, then you add being associated only with embarrassing manchildren who associated it with creepy rape fantasies
>>150165572A macho macho Californian AND an illegal immigrant?!
>>150165588I've got to be a macho man.
>>150165584It depresses me that due to certain threads on this board in combination with certain showrunners, simply making a cartoon about kids would get a red flag. OP may come from a decent place (basically "I'm a good person, not like those freaks, honest!") but this ultimately leads to censorship of material that's utterly safe. Because there's an infinite number of perverts out there that can get their rocks off to an infinite range of specific things, then everything is potentially corrupting. There's porn of Richard Scarry art, but that doesn't mean he would be wrong to continue drawing his illustrations the same way he always did as it is a "corrupting influence" if he had known.
>>150165681>perverts out there that can get their rocks off to an infinite range of specific thingsliterally me
>>150165095Have a Snickers
>>150165896PERVERT!!!!
>>150143996As far as I can tell this is what furries largely were in the early days, then sometime in the 2000s it became less about a shared love for animal characters and a lot more about fursuits and fursonas and using the whole thing as an excuse to meet up and have gay orgies (not that this wasn’t a thing early on but it’s become way more prevalent)
>>150143996You are so close, anon. It isn't the anthropomorphism that's the problem it's the furries themselves which made the connotation to begin with. If we all banded together as a society and did our part in shunning these freaks off the internet and out of any sort of platform we would not be having this discussion
>>150161120Textbook denial
>>150166059Embarassing post, Tripcode-kun
>>150166059somethingawful called, they want you to scrape off lowtax's brains off the floor
>>150160438>we am depraved for more complex and naunced reasons than them.Holy ESL
>>150160823>>150162880Hey, OP. Please reupload your art, I like it.
>>150165681OP is some type of dumbass thats for sure
>>150166088I mean, I don't diddle kids or mutilate animals, and I don't associate with those who do.Dunno what else to tell you.
>>150166187Furfag cope
>>150166226What about it is cope? I'm telling the truth.
>>150161044So that other anon just dipped huh
>furfags have been nuking their reputation since the 2000s>there were literally furfags who wanted furry to be as unsafe, weird, and gross as possible because “fuck corpos” or something>furry gets a negative connotation as a result>people who simply like anthro characters are now directly associated with animal rapists, predators, the whole spectrum of societal filth>furfags piss and shit themselves when you point all this out
>>150166859Such a spazzy perception. There are plenty of furries of all kind who are just fine, so many people just do it their way and dont care about the rest
>>150166859The Burned Furs were right
>>150143996Furries make me 7k a month on patreon
>>150166965What are you making?
>>150166859>ThingsThatNeverHappened.png
>>150166961They were not.
>>150166859Do you take on the personal responsibility of every violent rapist that has the same nationality or sports team or even mains the same game as you?No?Funny that.
>>150166961>Burned FursFun fact: the entire movement came into existence because its founder Charla Trotman (who goes by Spike or IronSpike or something like that now, dunno what that's about) got into a conversation with John Kricfalusi (yes the Spumco/Ren & Stimpy guy) on AOL back during his days when he was very online and was constantly creeping on every art school girl he could find, because they all wanted to fuck him for some reason. Charla unwittingly showed him her furry art, not knowing that John K was probably the most notorious hater of furry shit that ever lived. He promptly shat all over it and she seethed so hard that she spent the rest of the night writing out the psychotic manifesto that would destroy her career before it had even started, as if embarrassing herself in front of the Ren & Stimpy guy somehow doomed her to failure. In reality he probably didn't give the slightest shit and forgot she existed as soon as he found his next art college girl to creep on.
>>150166859all in shawn keller's book
>>150167988YOU MUST BE COLLECTIVELY PUNISHED BECAUSE...YOU MUST
>>150167102Not money through Patreon. Yet.
>>150167988What the fuck are you even talking about? People will always hold certain assumptions towards you if you are a part of or do certain things, and those assumptions vary from case to case. The assumptions you might get for having a sports team are relatively small and meaningless, meanwhile being a furry carries the assumption of animal rape and other disgusting shit because of the reputation they spent nearly two decades building
>>150168745Much like normies would consider you a racist nazi incel if you tell them you're active on 4chan, right?
>>150144424I really like that fox, too.
>>150169624Does she have cute feet?
>>150143996So OP... Is that your.... wiiiissh?
>>150168198>art college girlYou're being quite generous in interpreting John's taste in women.
>>150143996Cope
>>150168198>she seethed so hard that she spent the rest of the night writing out the psychotic manifesto that would destroy her career before it had even startedWhere can I read this?
>>150170367>Where can I read this?https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/This_Sordid_Little_BusinessTheir server is slow as shit for some reason so might take a minute to actually load
>>150143996
>>150169559>Much like normies would consider you a racist nazi incel if you tell them you're active on 4chan, right?You’re way behind, xitter is just as bad if not worse nowadays
>>150171188>xitter is just as bad if not worse nowadaysThat doesn't change the fact that 4chan (and imageboards in general) still have a shit reputation in the eyes of the public as well
>>150165405>>150165491Is no one else actually interested in analyzing the psychology and dissonance of OP and the art styles deemed perverse?
>>150171679why
>>150171679I'd rather talk about fucking the cute anthro he posted unironically.
>>150171753As an alternative to seethe cope cope seethe>>150171763This is fine too, I like what drawings of OP's (presumably) were shared.
>>150172004This: >>150163355Got to me. Dudes in urban clothing secretly wearing girly victoria secret type lingerie is hot as fuck.
The whole idea that furries hate HMOFA was never a thing until HMOFAgs who are insecure about being furries started astroturfing it.
>>150172119Haha what
>>150173372I want to fuck crossdressing anthros.
>>150173391You do realize where you will be putting your dick, right?
>>150173518Of course I fucking do.Behind the knee.
>>150173518thighfucking, like how the greeks intended
>>150173563Right beneath the balls which are covered in nice soft panties while the thighs are exposed.Getting the combined feeling of silk and plush fur in every thrust.
>>150172149honestly, I was fine with and liked hmofa until they started invading furry threads and calling me a cuck and a fag out of the blueafter that it was like 'well, fuck you too then'
>>150173673>out of the bluenot exactly, many furries are gay or at least bi
>>150143996t. janny
Any human male on female and/or male anthros is great.
>>150143996>When my stuff gets called "furry" I get so unbelievably discouraged. The label takes away all meaning from my art , because most furry art is meaningless eye candy, or really gross NSFW shit.Quit drawing anthropomorphic animals then, retard.