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I like shows/comics with a female lead.
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He's got an unpopular opinion, get him!
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>>150146276
Agree, I like cute girl cartoons.
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>>150146276
They used to be good. Then they became mouthpieces for whatever agenda is being pushed by the author or executives. But it's not the fault of the characters themselves.
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I like adult women
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If most /co/ posters were born fifteen years earlier, they'd think all the cartoons they were raised on were "woke"
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>>150146276
I prefer DC over Marvel.
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>>150146821
Remember when woke meant to be aware of something before it got reduced to a cynical way of selling a product?
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>>150146821
They'd also hate Toph Beifong
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>>150146276
This is a bad ragebait thread. Nobody cares if the main lead is female if she's written well, especially millennials and Gen X. They had shows like Buffy, Xena, Cybersix, Æon Flux, and Daria. It gets unpopular if the show is written poorly or they just use it for propaganda or use a male charecter as a punching bag when they were previously seen as competent.
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>>150146931
>This is a bad ragebait thread.
Its not a ragebait thread, or at least I didn't make it with that in mind. Unpopular opinion =/= ragebait.
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>>150146276
superhero settings shouldn't travel-related powers like superspeed, teleportation, flight, portals, etc.
99% of superhero settings would immediately be improved by getting rid of them.
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>>150146946
>Unpopular opinion =/= ragebait.
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>>150146976
Tell me you were born post 2000 without explicitly telling me you were born post 2000
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>>150146872
Wrong
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>>150146992
Really the shows I listed didn't tip you off?
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>>150146864
No, I don't.

I'm sure there was a time, but by the time it hit the mainstream, it became a term for "vague things you, the conservative audience, don't like"

It's a magic word that lets you say "I'm not gonna be SPECIFIC about what it means, but you know what it means," which if you're a worried stay-at-home mother, could mean the radical changes happening with the new generation on the cusp of social acceptability, and of course, potentially affecting your children. OR, if you're a rich old man, could mean taxes that affect (you), because all those Poors should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps and put their nose to the grind stone and actually work for once and ideally inherit a diamond mine, like you did. OR, woke could just the existence of blacks. So on and so on. It's a useful magic word. Same shit with "problematic" but for the other side.
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>>150147038
I apologize for going off topic, but this shit being 1/3rd of /co/ some days grinds my gears

Someone post Harley's ass or something
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>>150147080
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>>150146459
Hagmaxer
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>>150147038
>>150147080
Tell us how you really feel cowboy
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>>150147080
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Ed Edd and Eddy sucks
The Incredibles is horrible
Charles Soule's Darth Vader is one of the best comics released in the last 20 years or so.
Boys vs girls episodes are always awful
The Boys show is garbage, but I think it's slightly better than the comic, which is execrable
Shrek 1 and 2 are decent movies that have become massively overrated because of memes/irony
Inside Out 1 and 2 are so much better than everything Pixar has ever made, they might as well be made by a different company.
In terms of personality and looks, no Disney princess comes close to Anna.
Big Hero 6 is the best thing Disney has ever made and Gogo is the second.
All 4 Arkham games are good.
Multiverse stuff is mostly terrible.
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>>150147330
>Ed Edd and Eddy sucks
>The Incredibles is horrible
Disagree
>Boys vs girls episodes are always awful
Agree
>The Boys show is garbage, but I think it's slightly better than the comic, which is execrable
Haven't watched the show, but can vouch for the comic being hot garbage
>Shrek 1 and 2 are decent movies that have become massively overrated because of memes/irony
Agree, though I don't see many people saying Shrek is excellent, just good.
>Inside Out 1 and 2 are so much better than everything Pixar has ever made, they might as well be made by a different company.
Disagree - they're quite formulaic, and while they are pretty and have some good character moments, its emotional impact is limited by its length as a feature film. I think it'd be better as a short film.
>In terms of personality and looks, no Disney princess comes close to Anna.
Counterpoint: Ariel
>Big Hero 6 is the best thing Disney has ever made and Gogo is the second.
Honestly? Forgettable movie. Not bad by any stretch, fun visuals, but never stuck with me
>All 4 Arkham games are good.
Absolutely true
>Multiverse stuff is mostly terrible
Yes, with the caveat that it's a very interesting idea for a story that's become totally oversaturated.
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>>150147330
>Charles Soule's Darth Vader
Which one is that
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>>150146276
Atom Eve did nothing wrong.
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>>150146821
>watch early simpsons
>start to think "Hey this is good, there's none of that political crap from today..."
>end apartheid poster on lisa's door
>every marriage crisis episode is: homer does something that's bad but not unforgivable, marge throws him out of the house he paid for and makes him feel like shit
>marriage crisis but marge is at fault (bowling ball adultery or lost homer a million dollars): homer's to blame, the freeloading homemaker can do no wrong
>wait, if you think about it, the simpsons wanting to be good christians is basically just woke but back when it was "cool" to be christian...
>why are there so many jewish jokes?
>krusty was established as jewish that early?
>why is krusty just a dick in every appearance... and the show is agreeing with him? He wanted to fucking punch Bart in the face for revealing he's avoiding taxes and we're playing it off as a good thing Bart deserves??? And this episode was HIGHLY RATED by EVERY CRITIC?
>wait that writer was jewish? and that one? AND that one?!?!
It's like everything. My fellow millennial-zoomers will sing from the high heavens about how a franchise they love is great because it's woke (Fallout, Star Trek, et cetera) and then I go back to the earlier editions and I see "woke" but I also see how my fellow friends would... projectile vomit if they rewatched/replayed the original stuff because their programming was updated.
And here I am enjoying blackface in original looney tunes shorts precisely because it tells me I'm as far away from current shit as I can get.
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>>150146276
>I like shows/comics with a female lead.
Same
But brown.
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>>150146276
Star Wars TCW is good.
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>>150146872
True
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>>150146276
My unpopular opinion? I think cartoon women shouldn't spill the glass of cum I gave them like Harley did in OP.
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>>150146276
There is nothing controversial about these two being together
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>>150146864
>>150147038
Think tanks saw it was marginally popular on social media among their political enemies and decided to coordinate some cooption of it until you ONLY ever hear it from soulless politicians who apply it as a thought terminating cliche, or from some car selfie profile pic who defends israel
There's a guy from the Manhattan Institute openly bragging about making CRT a dirty word that loses meaning and is applied to anything they don't like, he also bragged about the Cracker Barrel culture war slop from a few weeks back
I'm fucking tired of pretending all this right wing culture war shit is organic, it's Bush Jr era "War on Christmas" shit on steroids
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>>150147038
Once upon a time it was the black version of "third eye". Being aware of stuff like COINTELPRO, gentrification, or legislation that disproportionately effects lower class Black neigborhoods. So it would be stuff like "are you woke on who killed MLK?"
Then white women happened and it became a circlejerk term about showing off how "enlightened" you are, awareness becoming a virtue signaling status symbol where person isn't simply "woke on x" but "woke" as a person.
Many such cases, white women don't know how to participate in social movements without virtual signaling. They nearly derailed BLM by creating a sister hashtag where you post a blank square to show off what an ally you are
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>>150146276
It is time to let it go.
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I dislike political threads.
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>>150147038
Woke is just the latest in a long line of progressive rebrands which become 4 letter words once people start figure out they’re associated with progtard politics. Then these progtards have to pretend as if it’s a nebulous buzzwords rightoids abuse as if they didn’t come up with it in the first place. Same as political correctness or SJW
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>>150146276
I hate puritans no matter their political slant.
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>>150147641
The entire world is becoming browner and gayer, and man are straight (or asexuals like yourself) pissed and frightened.
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>>150147631
If you never watched AT and only go off /co/ threads about it you'd think every chick on the show was CBTing Finn every five minutes.
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>>150146276
This was not cuckolding. They were single. It was perfectly acceptable.
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>>150147736
You're brown and gay lol
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>>150147330
Shit taste
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>>150147550
CRT is bullshit
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>>150147763
Wait, people think this is adultery and not, y'know, she's a kid, and Bruce Timm needs to stop self inserting as Bruce Wayne, or at least not make batgirl his type?
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>>150147736
>Using gay as an insult
Y’know it’s funny how I just got done explaining how leftoids invariably abandon their own rhetoric out of embarrassment, but one dimension I didn’t touch upon is how they simultaneously tend to co-opt rightoid rhetoric for their own purposes since they know it’s more effective. (like saying “based” for instance)
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>>150147671
based
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>>150147852
I always tell poltards that their hatred for blacks, browns, women, LGBT people, etc pales in comparison to the hatred of a liberal when they catch a black, brown, woman, LGBT person doing something they disagree with.
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>>150147448
>And here I am enjoying blackface in original looney tunes shorts precisely because it tells me I'm as far away from current shit as I can get.
He's a cartoon where every black character is a slave drawn to suggest big lips despite being cartoon animals, they all dance and love watermelon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oeqC0DwTOU
The villains are still all evil slave owners who want to buy and sell them and they lose in the end.
I think this is pure anti-white propaganda and would personally have all the creators sacrificed and killed among statues of hitler and my anime figures
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>>150147991
John Brown was a hero
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>>150147810
Everything gets called CRT, that's the point and they knew it when abusing the term
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>>150147845
>>150147763
I've got one for this. The core concept of showing that Bruce is emotionally stunted and tends to fuck up his personal relationships isn't a bad one.
I've noticed that people have just gone so far into the "STOP MAKING BATMAN SO DARK LIKE THAT!" that they've just done a blatant 180 rather than simply pulling back the flanderization of those traits
Like, "Bruce is a psychologically wounded figure and can never fully heal from the trauma of his parents death" and "Bruce typically has trouble letting people get close" have been accepted as consistent traits of the character since post-crisis but especially these Wayne Family Adventures types wanna larp that none of this was there until 2008 because they want wholesome Bat-dad
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>>150147641
Another anon brutally mindraped by think tanks right here
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>>150147845
BRO SHE'S A COLLEGE AGE CHILD YOU SICK FUCK
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>>150148023
Moralfagging over Babs and Bruce never made since to me since you fucks on here goon to literal kid characters 24/7
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>>150147736
The world was always brown and gay(literally)
>>150147852
I still use gay as an insult sometimes because I said it since I was 12 in the 00's, I'm not the NPC you want everyone who disagrees with you to be
>"based"
And I use based because I've been using this shithole since forever. Based came from a fucking rap song that post-2016 retards would probably consider degenerate evil jewish nigger babble because rap is black.
The creator of Boy's Club hating the right never stopped people from using Pepe.
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>>150148005
trvke desu
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>>150146276
I like Homelander's costume but that's the only good thing from the Boys (comics)
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>>150148068
I don't. But I'm not even talking about Bruce/Babs.
I mean like, you have people now who think Bruce typically being emotionally closed and not sharing everything with his allies is out of character. He did that shit as far back as the 80s.
Hell, accepting that Bruce is a very flawed person who acted as the best father figure he could despite those flaws was a core part of Dick's transition to Nightwing.
A lot of people seem to want "wholesome Bat-Dad" so badly now that they're ignoring things that have been traits of the character for decades
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>>150148039
Your own personal reasons for using the language you use doesn’t really affect the wider trends I’ve observed. The meaning of words evolve overtime all the time, I just find it funny how virtually every slur thrown at progressives was something they came up with and called themselves once upon a time.
>>150148039
I mean most people would, look at the size of that gourd
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>>150147991
Kys faggot
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>>150148005
>>150148120
I'll never forget John Brown's last words.
ACK.
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>>150148048
>shortarse
>conveniently the same height as her girl self in the last season
>HAS to be paired up with older batman
Anon, what's college age to you? Because Catwoman is right there and taller than her, and I never asked if she had a generational gap with Batman. Batman creaming in Babs just looks perverted in a show that does not make ages ambiguous, like the artist added a note saying "She's 16+/18+/21+ and legal in your country, honest!"
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>>150148068
Retard
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>>150148068
theres a difference between jerking off to drawings and fucking your friends daughter
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>>150148100
Stop projecting
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>>150146276
Same, OP.
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>>150146276
I really liked the Superior Spider-Man era.
Not the Dan Slott books precisely but everything else. I really liked Otto as Spider-Man. They should had kept Elliot Toliver around.

I was hoping for the reveal that Otto did die in ASM #700 and Elliot was merely a splinter personality, especially when Mephisto showed up. Essentially just bottled up angst who believe himself to be Otto.
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>>150148255
That would be a pretty epic own if that didn't include thousands of Confederate soldiers and a whole dead country that lasted for four years
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>>150148248
Meant for >>150148100
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>>150148398
My great-great-great-etc fought for the Union, a regiment out of Mass. Grant got two of my great Uncles killed in cold harbor. John Brown was a psychopath and deserved the rope he got.
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>>150148248
Once again, more think tank tier mindrape
Yeah no shit cooption exists retard, you're such a genius for noticing that coordination with thousands of dollars and influential talking heads with access to politicians(like Desantis) is pretty powerful
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>>150148290
Stop sucking cock
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>>150146276
This show was over-hated.
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>>150148444
Cope thirdie
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>>150148426
Yeah I don't give a shit bro
Shit on John Brown and shit on everyone who tried to do shit before it got worse, if something bad happens to you and some "psycho" wants to save you, I hope he gets roped too
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>>150148452
I guess I broke the bot.
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>>150148468
>>150148488
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>>150148488
You are a fag
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>>150148428
>you're such a genius
Thanks!
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>>150148503
Only because you keep sucking cock
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>>150146408
Any examples?
I ask because I don't wanna push an agenda by accident
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>>150148517
As long as you push my agenda, it'll be fine
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>>150148514
Cope
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>>150146276
Its okay to be non white.
Its okay to not be straight.
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>>150148555
Only the first
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>>150148555
Only the second
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>>150148555
Only if you don't bother white and straight people
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>>150148555
White LGBTers on my brothers and sisters. Non Whites can self deport while its an option.
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>>150148676
are my*
Whoops. Too much mead tonight.
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>>150146821
>nobody cares that ATLA had two male Avatars in a row and a bunch of disabled and brown characters
>now everyone is mad about Pavi
yeah
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>>150148698
Cope
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>>150148698
I want to fuck Pavi
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>>150146276
Instead of Pavi, they should animate Kyoshi and Rangi.
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>>150148710
Your precious barefoot loli's always been woke
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>>150148698
Wow it’s not like there’s been an entire series in-between then and now that’s soured everybody on Mike and Bryan’s writing abilities
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>>150148761
Yeah Nicks jerking them around and not letting them know how many seasons or episodes they had really fucked up their groove. That and censorship of course.
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>>150148761
This isn't about writing it's about character design. Avatar's always had brown and disabled characters. You're just mad because you've convinced yourself that they weren't being sincere about writing a disabled character when they came up with Toph.
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>>150146276
I love Harley Quinn.
>Just BTAS Harley right?
Nope. I love Harley Quinn.
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>>150147885
>I always tell poltards that their hatred for blacks, browns, women, LGBT people, etc pales in comparison to the hatred of a liberal when they catch a black, brown, woman, LGBT person doing something they disagree with.
I got scolded by a liberal white woman I know when we were looking at that "demure, mindful" meme video from TikTok and I asked if the troon in the video was a man. She got all indignant and hissed that they'd have their surgeries soon. It's like she got offended for the tranny she'd never meet or come into contact with.
t. white collar black man
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>>150148735
Stfu tranny
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>>150148555
BASED BASED BASED TRVKE
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>>150148779
Those feel like excuses to me, Blue Spirit was originally written as a potential finale for ATLA since they actually weren’t certain they’d get more episodes back then either. Bryke not knowing ahead of time what to expect next only really explains Korra getting her bending back erroneously in S1 it doesn’t explain other huge blunders like the Equalists never getting a mention again.
>>150148785
Honestly in terms of character design Pavi’s color scheme bothers me way more. She just doesn’t fit in with ATLA’s established palette, she looks like Iris from Pokemon BW.
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>>150148698
Because it's modern culture war brainrot setting. Back when AtLA came out, that shit was kept on Fox News and the worst parts of the south. Now everyone is watching some fucking conservatard sloptubers with suspicious connections telling them to get mad at everything
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>>150148880
holyyyy PROJECTION
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>>150148880
>Now everyone is watching some fucking conservatard sloptubers with suspicious connections telling them to get mad at everything
I think the trannies have gone too far in particular, but this assertion isn't wrong
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>>150148854
Stfu troon
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everyone is jewish, everyone is a tranny.
>t. 4chan.org
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>>150148761
The problem with LoK wasn't that Korra was brown
Or a woman
The only problem with the yurishit was that the romance in Avatar was always shit and badly written
A disabled waterbender wasn't the problem either
The people who freaked out over Pavi being a brown(the even pretend that she's black) girl or disabled never gave a shit about the franchise. They're just culture warriors who only see shapes and colors. I honestly don't know how to be generous towards them
The problem with Korra was the shitty writing and the bastardization of the lore and worldbuilding. IF you even want to blame politics, you won't like the result, because the show jerks off western democracies and an industrial heiress and views westernization as moving forward. If you think Pavi is black, Korra has characters that look white and die their hair red.
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>>150148907
AND YOU HAVE TO
POINT IT
ALL
OUT
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>>150146276
Bone is very mediocre and actively gets worse the more it focuses on the fantasy elements
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Disney shorts are better than Looney Tunes
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>>150146276
Webcomics aren't weird enough (how many even use that it's on a website?) and webcomics are also too long.
>>150148835
This also reminds me that I would like more political satire in animated/comic comedies, but the main problem with them is that either they do no research and can't utilize empathy enough to actually "show both sides"; I don't mean they have to hold hands and sing kumbayah, but you can't just make penis jokes or call someone stupid and act like you're the empitome of comedy.
and that's why centrist humor is the best political humor.
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>>150149011
Nah
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>>150149017
In my opinion
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>>150149029
Retarded opinion
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>>150149034
Unpopular opinion
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>>150148835
you sound like a bitch thoughbehonest
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>>150149053
Still retarded
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>>150149055
Speak like a human
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>>150146276
>I like shows/comics with a female lead.
well, give us your recommendations or a top 5 then
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>>150149012
>and that's why centrist humor is the best political humor.
Such as
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The Unbelievable Gwenpool
Blade Runner 2019
My Life As A Teenage Robot
Totally Spies
She Ra and the Princesses of Power.
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>>150147631
I do think this ship is way overhated and I think they actually did a fine job leading into it. My only complaint is that since people treat them like the "sapphic goals" couple, it really feels like it flattens their characters including the more problematic elements of them.
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>>150149246
At one time I'd probably be more inclined to agree with you, but considering that AT thread earlier today I fully support that pairing because its detractors are nutballs.
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>>150149239
>The Unbelievable Gwenpool
>Blade Runner 2019
THIS MOTHERFUCKER READS COMICS?!
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>>150149156
Southpark obviously
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>>150149411
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>>150149246
Shut taste
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>>150149261
Retarded fag
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>MAWS is good but not something I'd consider to be Adult Swim material
>The 2010s were a golden age for cartoons and will likely have an impact on future cartoons similar to the 90s
>There's nothing wrong with making comics and cartoons "for boys" or "for girls" but the lack of creative freedom has stifled the opportunity to make good cartoons for these demographics
>AI can probably have a positive role to play in the arts industry but the discourse for the past several years (on both sides) has poisoned the well for at least the next decade
>PBS didn't go far enough, there should be at least 6 major government funded studios located across the US to let artists move to smaller cities with cheaper rent and get their start in the industry
>the black palms thing is overdone and cartoons shouldn't really care about that level of detail unless there's a close up shot of hands or feet
>All new animation industry people should be forced to move to somewhere not in California or New York for a year before they're allowed to work on cartoons. If they already live there, make it two years.
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>>150146276
Vilgax and Myaxx should have had wild chimerean sex, i’m dead serious
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>>150149464
Okay.
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>>150149476
That smug face..!
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>>150149476
>>The 2010s were a golden age for cartoons and will likely have an impact on future cartoons similar to the 90s
For better or for worse yes but at least they tried
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The biggest sin for Jentry Chau was making Michael into a boring character and pairing him with Jentry, not him being black and paired with Jentry. Also, they should've leaned into the selfcest implications of Kit being Jentry and making him hit on her while he was still dressed in her skin.
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>>150149239
>My Life As A Teenage Robot
>Totally Spies
>She Ra and the Princesses of Power.
nice! good taste
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>>150149239
You know what? I'm just happy you have things you can enjoy.
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/co/ has a crabs in a bucket mindset and would rather watch a million ideas they hate make it rather than one idea from someone who posts here succeed. double that if the one idea comes from a woman who posts here.
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>>150146276
I don't hate women.
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>>150149476
>MAWS is good but not something I'd consider to be Adult Swim material
That's not an opinion, it was originally made to air on CN before CN went all in on Cartoonito.
That brings me to a good one.
Holy shit the internet overhypes just how evil Zaslav supposedly is to the point of downplaying the evil of other CEOs.
Seeing people unironically saying "He needs the Luigi treatment"? You're comparing a cancelled cartoon to a 33% deny rate on health insurance.
Most bafflingly of all, half the time it's a project people only get interested in because it got cancelled or written off.
I'm not defending him but it's just another one of those instances where the internet takes fantasy land being interrupted as top priority compared to much more serious shit. The evil of a company like Disney and the evil of a company like Nestle are two entirely different leagues of sociopathy. One is a shitty media company, the other is an existential threat to the water supply who have caused an untold number of children to die of dehydration and malnourishment.
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>>150146276
Worm would make a cool animated series
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>>150149706
>existential threat to the water supply who have caused an untold number of children to die of dehydration and malnourishment.
What race were the kids
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>>150149706
>Holy shit the internet overhypes just how evil Zaslav supposedly is to the point of downplaying the evil of other CEOs.
I feel like most of these complaints come from teens or people who have made cartoons so much a part of their identity that they have to "defend the honor" of their favorite creators or favorite shows, which opens the door to outrageous takes. It's not like the creators are necessarily helping here either, especially ones with large platforms like Hirsch (he's not CN but its a similar thing).
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>>150149749
Kys
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>>150149823
I've tried but Mr. Incredible stopped me.
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>>150149749
All of them. The malnourishment ones were black. But frankly, when you learn how it was done I think even the biggest racists on here would be fucking mortified. They basically had women go around disguised as nurses to tout how much healthier the baby formula was compared to breast milk but the African region they did it in was so poor that the moms would dilute the formula to get more out of what they could afford, with the company workers telling them that was still better than regular breast milk.
but the water thing is done on a global scale. Coca Cola does it too. Imagine bottling up and taking water from the supply and then selling it to the very people you took it from at marked up prices
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>>150149848
I only care about my people.
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>>150149866
Retard
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>>150149866
Your people were probably included in the water thing. I know they damaged a lot of white communities in Michigan.
>>150149805
It's a fairly popular opinion on here but yeah, a lot of these cartoon creators need to stop with the whole "tortured artist" schtick.
It's hard to feel bad for Hirsch, Braly, et cetera when all I can think is "how in the absolute fuck are you able to openly shit talk your employers to their consumer base with zero repercussion."
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>>150149969
>Your people were probably included in the water thing. I know they damaged a lot of white communities in Michigan.
I'm jewish.
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>>150149969
>white communities in Michigan.
The Caliphate of Michigan.
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>>150149978
It was obvious
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>>150146459
Based adult enjoyer
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>>150149239
5/5.
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>>150149411
Yeah remember all those comedy sketches with Biden?
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You ever notice how everytime they introduce a character from a profoundly wealthy dynasty full of wicked entirely profit and power motivated people they always seem to have a daughter heiress who starts off as a hate sink and overtime starts to tolerate the poor despite the fact the writers are so unbelievably shitty at their jobs they make no effort to make that change feel either organic or believable in anyway and the only reason why they ever continue doing this was because the whole "characters like this have so much depth guise trust us."

It never works. It never even worked with Pacifica and she was the patient zero of this trope becoming its own cliche. This felt like everyone collectively sat down and said anytime a woman does something terrible its not her fault shes imitating a family member namely her dad who is probably some hard right leaning corportist chud and the only thing that will lead her right is a light brown lesbian who will not only make her love the poor but make her gay and make her so gay she hates the dynasty she was born into despite loving every aspect of that society until she met the MC

Its literally a woman fantasy. Their ideal fantasy is to self insert as a light brown lesbian who comes from a poor background but falls in love with someone who is fantastically rich who will take her dynasty away from her family and spend it all on communist nonsense. Its a power fantasy of acquiring a rich sugar mama you can gaslight into loving communism

Its beyond shameless. Look at any actual heiress of a fortune 500 company theyre a fucking mess but they would never give up their privledged lives even if it fucking killed them.
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>>150149866
The water quality in America is abysmal country wide
You probably have enough plastics in you to make a Tupperware container
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>You ever notice how everytime they introduce a character from a profoundly wealthy dynasty full of wicked entirely profit and power motivated people they always seem to have a daughter heiress who starts off as a hate sink and overtime starts to tolerate the poor despite the fact the writers are so unbelievably shitty at their jobs they make no effort to make that change feel either organic or believable in anyway and the only reason why they ever continue doing this was because the whole "characters like this have so much depth guise trust us."

>It never works. It never even worked with Pacifica and she was the patient zero of this trope becoming its own cliche. This felt like everyone collectively sat down and said anytime a woman does something terrible its not her fault shes imitating a family member namely her dad who is probably some hard right leaning corportist chud and the only thing that will lead her right is a light brown lesbian who will not only make her love the poor but make her gay and make her so gay she hates the dynasty she was born into despite loving every aspect of that society until she met the MC

>Its literally a woman fantasy. Their ideal fantasy is to self insert as a light brown lesbian who comes from a poor background but falls in love with someone who is fantastically rich who will take her dynasty away from her family and spend it all on communist nonsense. Its a power fantasy of acquiring a rich sugar mama you can gaslight into loving communism

>Its beyond shameless. Look at any actual heiress of a fortune 500 company theyre a fucking mess but they would never give up their privledged lives even if it fucking killed them.
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>>150150190
God I'd plow that sexy twink
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>>150147448
There's some good Simpsons gags, but overall the topical humor plus the "woke/left" shit is a big turnoff. Classic spongebob is still pretty great though
>>150147038
Woke for me just means girl boss shit, any LGBT crap, Marxism, white people hate, and man hate. Pretty simple faggot
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>>150150325
>Woke for me just means girl boss shit
So Toph?
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>>150147736
>>150148100
Yes, and evil has always been a thing, the problem is when people try and normalize it
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>>150146276
I hate murder drones because people made porn of that faggot twink fucking my wife
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>>150150343
>thinking toph was a girlboss like Rei or captain marvel
Her powers made sense, she was only an asshole because she had a hard time being open and depending on people, and she was cute and entertaining. Not a girlboss faggatron
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>>150150365
Heh, its always funny how quickly your lot scrambles when faced with the fact you do like some girl bosses. They just have to have been made prior to a certain year.
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I think people give way too much credit(hate) to how influencal powerscaling is on the public view of/how writers write characters because they want a scape goat that isn't the writers themselves. No, powerscalers didn't invent batwank, that's just a result of having what should be treated as two different characters (batman in his solo series and batman in Justice league comics and media) attached to the same person.Nor did they invent the idea "superman is too powerful", people were saying this independent of powerscaling for years. They didn't invent the quote "DC is gods trying to be human, marvel is humans trying to be gods"....etc. I swear this is the internet equivalent of ancient aliens.
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>The success of the Boondocks and the failure of the Cleveland Show is the best case for DEI in animation.
>Animation will never be treated seriously as a medium since the biggest boosters of the "animation is really serious" belief are the most childish types of adults
>We've maxed out the "wholesome sapphic romance" trope, we need to overcorrect to toxic and messy sapphic relationships with shitty girlfriends who are as bad as their male counterparts
>A certain degree of censorship is fine in encouraging creativity
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>>150150343
>”If Toph was made today chuds would despise her!”
If Toph were made today her VA would be flamed for not being Chinese and there wouldn't be any blind jokes
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>>150150414
Death Battle is to blame.
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>>150150359
Just self insert
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>>150146276
>I like shows/comics with an adult female lead.
ftfy
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>>150150469
How could you fix my own opinion? If you only like that, that's fine buddy.
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>>150150481
It is a objectively correct opinion on a 18+ site.
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>>150146276
Cartoon twinks who are explicitly gay should be more common and I want them included in the harem.
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>>150150490
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Bring back /loli/ but make it a containment board. Have lolishit banned on every other board and have it strictly enforced. Every other board slows to a crawl but the post quality improves massively.
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>>150150523
Scared of pixels, anon?
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>150150379
>explain how Toph isn't a girlboss
>WELL ACTUALLY SHE IS BECAUSE I SAID SO
man you people are retarded
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>>150146276
Troon
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>Eric Stephenson was completely right about licensed comics and the people who exclusively read them
>Action cartoons weren't in a better position a decade ago, they were still cancelled prematurely, got sent to death slots, or got iTunes'd
>Adult fanbases are meaningless for the longevity of cartoons aimed/marketed for children as the target audience
>When recommending comics, its more important to prioritize getting someone into comics as a medium rather than furthering someone's interest in IPs they already are familiar with
>Lorefags are to animation what YAfags are to literature
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I need pointless mindless episodic slop. I can't stand having to THINK..
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>>150146276
How is this an unpopular opinion? its like saying I prefer drinking tea instead of coffee tier ass take
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>>150150105
You had a point about overused rich girl bully tropes until you started rambling incoherently about communism.
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>>150150626
Its an unpopular opinion on 4chan.
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>>150150633

What else are you suppose to refer to this when the rich girl no longer wants to be rich or gives all her money away to the poor?
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>>150146276
I'm a grown ass man. Watch cartoons for the fun of it, and will keep avoiding YouTube reviewers, once watched guys like panpizza and other gay guys, biggest mistake. Just degenerates which aren't that fun.
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>>150146276
only on 4chan is this unpopular
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>>150150743
I assume this is an unpopular opinion on 4chan thread than just general unpopular opinions so this isn't an unpopular opinion here, of anything it is one of the most popular opinions you can have.
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>>150151291
true
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>>150150523
we have /trash/
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>>150151601
There's still a lot of "a micro-internet celebrity talked about X thing" threads here.
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>>150147430
Wait, what did she did?
And we're talking about the animated or comics?
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>>150146276
If the female lead is hot and has a non-obnoxious personality yeah, but that never happens so...
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>>150149239
He never replied back did he lol
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>>150147631
It's still wild to me that that these two basically started the trend before Steven Universe or Korra even started airing, but didn't make it official til both shows were over. It was left riding the coattails of its own proteges.
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>>150154846
What trend is that? Fighting censorship? That's pretty based.
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>>150149476
MAWS is on adult swim because Cartoon Network has become way too kid focused that it would do terribly there.
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>>150146276
I enjoy Girl x Girl romance and never have they once been forced as mouth breathers on here will spam. If either girl was a guy, all signs would be acknowledged.
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>>150146276
this gif is hilarious to me
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I like Steven Universe
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>>150155698
Harley used to be one of my favorite DC characters, goofy, hilarious, sexy, and tragic
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>>150155715
And then you became a contrarian to get upvotes on 4chan.
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I like PB and Marcy being together and also think both are bisexual.
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>>150155806
Half right
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>>150154950
Stfu yuritroon
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>>150155728
It’s called the unpopular opinions thread bub
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Alex Hirsch tried to put the blame on us for Wendip when he was using Wendy as a romantic motivation from the start.
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>>150155933
Not unpopular in this place
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>>150155947
Except the popular opinion is that Wendy owes Dipper sex as obligation for being female.
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>>150155728
Kek.
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>>150155963
She does.
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>>150156096
Go fuck yourself.
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>>150156124
Cope and seethe Alex
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>>150148555
>Its okay to be non white.
fine
>Its okay to not be straight.
This is fine BUT DON'T MAKE IT THE BASIS OF YOUR PERSONALITY THAT YOU HAVE TO BE OBNOXIOUS ABOUT IT!!!
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>>150149239
>Totally Spies
The fuck? That's just fetish shit and 00s girl slang.
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>>150156206
I'm not hearing any negatives
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>>150156181
>stop making being non-straight your personality
>meanwhile most of the board makes being straight their only personality
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>>150156252
>things that never happened
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>>150156252
That different though. Acting "queer" is a thing.
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>>150147448
>>150146821
you guys are forcing this point a lot by plainly ignoring theres less literal faggotry and thats what drove all this over the line and caused younger people to start sperging out over everything. There is less homosexual agitprop and messages designed to dillute and subvert gender roles, its all still there, because media has always ALWAYS been made by leftist and jews. Youre not gigabrain for pointing that out like youre the first to realize it. There is a threshold where this stuff is no longer acceptable and most of it comes down to pushing literal faggotry as normal and accepted everyday occurrence. Lisa has always been the mouthpiece for the leftist writers to shine, again youre not clever for pointing that out.
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>>150156336
So is acting horny.
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>>150156340
You are wrong
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>>150150379
>*pushes up glasses* nothing personal, always funny how quickly your lot scrambles when faced with the fact you do like some girl bosses.
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>>150156352
I am not, you dont like it when someone can articulately point this out and ruin your "heh, guess media was always woke, eh?" parade. So I have to be wrong no matter what for your position to continue.
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>>150156377
You are a fag
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>>150156349
Being overly flamboyant, taking certain mannerisms from women, forcing yourself to like certain things like dancing or theater
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>>150156252
...bros.. he's right
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>>150156385
You would know.
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>>150156393
Shut up fag
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>>150156357
Toph fits the girl boss definition.
What is the girl boss definition? Character I dislike whose got a vagina.
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>>150156400
You gave it away
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>>150156391
Is there a point to this or do you just want to kill gay people
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>>150146821
If I was born in 1969, I'd have a fucking house.
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>>150156414
Why do you dislike Toph?
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>>150156403
Touched a nerve eh
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>>150156792
I don't. I'm just pointing out how meaningless the definition of girl boss is. Toph would be hated by most of the people on here that like her if she was made today, written the exact same way, and everything else.
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>Peter should start with the scarlet spider costume because it makes the most sense for someone with his income and resources. After he starts college or teams up with the avengers, he should switch to the costume he's known to wear- if you know what I mean
>This one is really autistic, but I think Johnny Storm should have been a woman. That way, the F4 would be two men and two women.
>I just never really liked Dexter's Lab and the Powerpuff Girls that much
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>>150156491
I read house as horse and was very confused
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Being an anti is stupid as fuck. It's like virtue signalling but it's not even for real people, it's for fucking cartoon characters. You're looking like a 1990s Satanic Panic suburban Karen over a fictional cartoon character.

"Noooo you can't ship that it's problematic." This shit came about because we stopped bullying people for being weird and gay. Most antis are trannies and faggots. Which is ironic because they're doing to other people what boomers want to do to them and not seeing the irony in it.
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>>150156835
Nah
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>>150157023
Yah.
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>>150156987
>"Noooo you can't ship that it's problematic."
mfw I ship Joel x Ellie.
>Most antis are trannies and faggots
Not on here. Most are christniggers.
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>>150157030
Wrong
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>>150146276
Rick and Morty is good, both the early seasons and later seasons.
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>>150146276
Girls kissing girls? 10/10
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>>150157079
Nah
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>>150155728
nah, Harley became an annoying dyke
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>>150158018
>proves anon's point
Glad fake fans like you got filtered.
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>>150158194
>fake fans
so you're a fan of birds of prey and that shitty animated harley show?
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>>150158194
Stu tranny
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>>150158204
>birds of prey
the movie? Nah they somehow made Margot Robbie look ugly.
>Shitty animated Harley show
You mean that kino show? Yeah
>>150158211
>tranny tranny tranny
How about you shut up you knob gobbling faggot. All you fags do every damn day is bitch about muh dykes and muh wamen. Go suck each other off in your fag discord. Coordinating replies ass niggas
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>>150154656
Oh how much we want this with any other series.
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>>150158236
Sorry that the truth hurts you
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>>150146276
I think hate watching is gay
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>>150147631
Anon, they WILL take the dick. Your temper tantrum isn't canon.
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>>150147763
The age gap isn't what makes this weird, it's the fact he's known her for so long AND the age gap. Hell, it'd be more wholesome if he chose to commit to her but it was a weird fling.
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>>150156252
If that's what you want to lie to yourself, sure.
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>>150150414
A significant problem is that we're at the point where the writers keep resorting to more and more oneupsmanship in terms of 'badass' to bolster their otherwise boring or forgettable runs/events.
Like, Miles Morales was clearly intended to be a Spider-Man built more for stealth than Peter with bio-electricity and camouflage, but writers ignored that and kept trying to one-up with what they could do with the Bioelectricity until we got the fucking lightning sword
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>>150147550
Anon, I don't know if you know this but the War on Christmas is a real thing. If you can't see that you are so ideologically a problem for America that you aren't supposed to be here while we're in this cold Civil War 2. In RWBY Chibi they wouldn't even commit to calling it a Christmas episode because libtards are a bunch of fucking communist faggots.
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>>150148555
Right now it's not okay to be either until the West returns to 90% White and women are stripped of rights. I'm tired of living in a broken world.
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>>150160623
I'm afraid.. they are canon.. and Finn.. well.. Huntress Wizard is single
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>>150160666
Its amusing to me how one single pairing, Bruce/Barbara, turns /co/ into moralfags that you see on Twitter.
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>>150160807
Shalom jew, dividing White men and women again eh? Don't worry. I got two pics for you.
1.
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>>150156340
Another take on your point, it's gotten to a breaking point. Because we've had SO much messaging of "Dumb sitcom dad," and "Be nice to nons," we've gotten to the point of "Men are not supposed to be respected as the people that keep society running," and "Let the nons rape and kill your people into extinction."

I realized the other day, when we win, there will be media after media that's basically The Turner Diaries. It is a blase, straight explanation, of how bad it is to live when women are whores and nons are running around doing nothing but crime. It's literally unthinkable what I'm saying. A movie framed as just a White main character going about his day and show how obnoxious they all are. Framed that way.
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>>150160807
2.
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>>150160863
I'm not a jew. Women were literally property until 100 years ago for all of human history. They're not supposed to have rights. They're supposed to be property of their father until he gives her off to her husband. When they have rights they initiate 70% of divorces and it's illegal to beat them into acting right. Returning them to property is the best thing for them. Women are MISERABLE now. Men were ALWAYS the lovey dovey romantics. For the vast majority of humans there is no guy that doesn't want to just love on and make his woman happy, but she HAS to treat him as her leader.
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>>150160748
I mean, given the quality of some of the /co/ Christmas specials recently, I'd rather they just be holiday specials at this point desu.
>Let's retell a Christmas Carol again and try to be this generations defining introduction like Mickey and Muppets were. Oh, let's remove all the dark stuff that those versions were praised for keeping in!
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>>150146276
Goofy's son Max needs to stay in the 90s where he belongs.
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>>150160975
Pretty sure both Mickey and Muppets did away with ickier parts like Scrooge's "children" Ignorance and Want.
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>>150160944
>literal gibberish
keep yapping little dog
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>I'm not a jew. Women were literally property until 100 years ago for all of human history. They're not supposed to have rights. They're supposed to be property of their father until he gives her off to her husband. When they have rights they initiate 70% of divorces and it's illegal to beat them into acting right. Returning them to property is the best thing for them. Women are MISERABLE now. Men were ALWAYS the lovey dovey romantics. For the vast majority of humans there is no guy that doesn't want to just love on and make his woman happy, but she HAS to treat him as her leader.
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>>150146459
Clearly a man of taste and refinement.
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>>150156340
>pointing out it was always there doesn't make you smart, in fact you're fucking stupid
>it's just that recently we got gigahomofagged to death
>stop pointing out lisa was always shit, retard!
What's wrong with pointing out the problem has always been around and has a familiar source?
Or that you can track, over time, the subtle changes in media where the narrative was slowly changed?
We're on the same side, aren't we?
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>>150160357
When did hate watching even become a thing?
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>>150161017
Here's the issue, and obviously you have more blatant parodies and the like but when a /co/ show adapts Christmas Carol. They need to pick which character is Scrooge. And a major caveat is that if you can't have that character talking about "harvesting time for the money lenders" and ranting about "the surplus population" then they shouldn't be Ebenezer Scrooge.
Scrooge as a character isn't just a greedy businessman but a character who introduces kids to what the actual evils of greed are. He's socially isolated and focused on gaining more that he's gained a complete indifference to suffering that he's well aware of but chooses not to stand face to face with out of fear that it would weaken him. He sees people as numbers.
He is evil by virtue of cold indifference and a lack of ability to look at what he's done. The problem with a lot of the Christmas Carol adaptations is ignoring that they're supposed to be a child's first look into very adult subject matters.
You also see things like Jacob Marley just being a ghost who can't move on rather than "carrying the chains he forged in life" or stuff like the starving peasants removed or played down.
When the story hinges on juxtaposing dark realities to the warmth of the Christmas season, then anything that wants to be a genuine introduction to the story needs to play by those rules.
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>>150146408
It's not really /co/ but to your point there was a time when a time when I wouldn't bat an eye at Xena, Cleoptatra 2525, Relic Hunter, Underworld, or Resident Evil - all franchises with female leads.

I wish we could go back to that, but the damage's done. I don't think I'll be able to look at it the same way again.
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>>150160689
That doesn't begin to make sense.
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>>150150415
Trvth Vltima
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>>150149866
I know you're proud to be racist or whatever, but don't you ever wonder "what if the shoe was on the other foot?"
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>>150146276
How Unpopular you people are with your opinion.



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