I'm tired of over animation
It's a Looney Tunes film, why are you expecting that there won't be over-acting, when one of the main conceits is that it's over-the-top and comedic?
>>150151774Classic Looney Tunes didn't do this shit.
How many cents were you paid to make this thread?
>>150151844Sorry for not being an ADHD iPad kid or Ren and Stimpy pervert.
>overanimationI look forward to the clickbait YouTube essay
>>150151830You never saw a single Looney Tunes short in your life if you really think so
>>150151853That's all I needed. Thank you for telling me who you are.
Basically, this thread was made by a bot. Show's over, everypony.
>>150151703So what discord is trying to push this?
How can you be tired of something that's barely a thing, go watch Family Guy clone no. 863 why don't you
>>150151703I'm tired of non-descriptive terms.
>>150151875>>150151875>dude Looney Tunes were like Ren and Stimpy! What is with people forcing this meme? Are spumco fags that delusional?
>overanimates in your path
>>150151830>>150151853The films style was literally inspired by Bob Clampetts shorts, retard, not every 2D animated film has to move like fucking Disney
there is no such thing as "overanimation", you're just a faggot
>>150151703No, you’re tired of unmotivated animation.
>>150152017Bob Clampetts shorts look and feel good. Looney tunes cartoons didn't. Also, the writing was different.
>>150151863The millenial writing one is actually good, I've rewatched over 10 times already. The others are just disposable slop milking off of internet trends.
>>150151863>shreddednerd
>>150151703Boohoo sorry the 2D animated film has a different style of movement Disney adult
I don't fully understand what OP is trying to say, but there are scenes in this movie that have some really floaty animation
>>150151983>cherrypicking from the TV slopNigga, you can look at any compilation of CLASSIC (as you said) Looney Tunes from the 1930s-1950s, the real golden era.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uBfgz7ygkEAlso, fuck Spumco and fuck John K. I'm not defending them. I'm shitting on YOU for being an obtuse faggot.
>>150151703>t.
>>150151983Ren & Stimpy was like the third most influential cartoon of the 90’s after Mighty Mouse and Who Framed Roger Rabbit. You have it to thank for the creative boom of wacky cartoons from that era. Pretty much every wacky cartoon after that to this day is Spumco derived one way or the other, which makes sense, Ren & Stimpy was a love letter to classic cartoons, inspired by Bob Clampett and UPA, and the Spumco era had some amazing animation, there’s a reason the show was so popular around its time, it’s because interest in classic cartoons among normies reemerged and people wanted to see something new after the whole toy commercial era. You’re acting as if expressive animation and Spumco influence is a bad thing, when honestly we need more cartoons these days that embrace being cartoons and make themselves distinct from live-action.Rocko, Ed Edd & Eddy, Dexters Lab, Cow & Chicken, Courage the Cowardly Dog, pretty much every wacky show of the 90’s R&S paved the way for.
>>150151830what? wild takes?
>>150151830
>>150151774>>150151875>>150152017But that's not Looney Tunes, even specifically the Clampett style, it's clearly Spumco inspired. It's like saying you're releasing an album that's totally a send up to Black Sabbath and then the whole thing is just Metallica covers or something.
>>150151703>/co/ hates when cartoons are underanimated>/co/ hates when cartoons are overanimatedWhat the fuck does /co/ want then?
>>150151983>here’s an example from the TV eraShit taste confirmed, opinion discarded "Man I hate Chuck Jones, he overanimates too much"
>>150152101>>150152114These are cool. The OP one looks like shit.
>>150152122Perfection
>>150152122/co/ is not one person.
>>150152091>we're shooting this on twos!that's still incredibly fluid and expensive animation
>>150152115You've been presented several examples of """overanimation""" from the classic theatrical films. Fuck off.
"Overanimation" is such a retarded thing to complain about. I bet the only people whining about it are bitches who dream about being cartoonists but don't want to actually do any work.
>>150152115The Day the Earth Blew Up isn’t even that Spumco-like retard, the characters aren’t as expressive or shift their bodies as much as in R&S. Its more clearly an attempt at replicating Bob Clampetts style, they save pushed expressions for the right moments.
>>150152141overanimation definitely exists
>>150152129>durr its bad when newer artists do it>old good new badTake your meds boomer
>>150152156This may be a hot take but I don’t see NuBobs animation as being a bad thing, I just find it a problem how they utilize the animation over the writing and make their show feel style over substance. Like the show is worked on by Spumco members and younger artists influenced by that kind of work.While it’s not my favorite artstyle for the show it looks pretty good for a modern cartoon and looks pretty fun to work on.
>>150152156more like overexpressive
>>150152101overanimation isn't when a few frames are brought to the extreme. It's when they constantly overdo it without contextual reason.
>>150152178like this? https://youtu.be/UetUwNg1yBg?si=YS6w3nar89QASC_N&t=14
>>150152088Bob Clampett
>>150152156The shit on the left does not compare with Looney fucking Tunes. We're talking about "overanimation" in Looney Tunes, and we're telling you there is none. Like it's been said, the new movies are closer to Clampett than to anything produced by Spumco.The shit you show me is Spumco-influenced.Again, fuck Spumco, I agree with that. But never, ever say that modern Looney Tunes are Spumco-influenced/overanimated. Fuck off with that.
>>150152146>>150152187Spumco
>>150152190Clampett
God, I hate so much how Ren and Stimpy shit ruins every thread
>>150152139We were eating so good back that age that just a slight downgrade felt like killing all the progress made in animation production quality since Snow White.A testament to how surreal our current timeline is.
>>150152187>>150152190>>150152196I don't understand what are your argument is with these gifs.(OP is a big faggot, just to be clear)
>>150152140I don't believe in over animation but I don't accept the they were trying to make something in the style of Clampett or any other Looney Tunes director. They wanted to make it more John K but couldn't say that so they might BS'd. If they did make an honest attempt didn't have the presence of mind to realize they were doing Ren and Stimpy when they thought they were doing Merry Melodies
>>150152204>progress made in animation production quality since Snow WhiteSuch as?
Simple, linear logic:>Animation is acting -> Acting is something that has a lot of nuisance and context (depending on the work, scene, etc.) -> acting (and animation) is therefore a subjective artAutistic, schizophrenic logic>Animation is about being as crazy as possible all the time (in my headcanon some famous animator probably said this) -> Anything that isn't being crazy all the time is bad
>>150151863The HB and millennial videos are good. Brown table has some nice animaton videos at least
>>150152146Where's the cartoon stuff, though? No one's changing color, there's no absurd visual reference gag. They should have done something like Porky and Petunia faint and Daffy's like: "Hold that thought" then grabs their tails and rushes around the ship (dragging their tails to an absurd length like a giant extension chord and wrapping it around various minions moving boxes and stuff) until he finds a power outlet, then reaches into a pocket in his fur and pulls out a charging cube which the camera zooms in on and shows that it reads something like QUICK-E CHARGER then he connects their tails to it and plugs it into the wall and the camera rapidly opens back over to Porky and Petunia who have a phone battery icon appear over their silhouettes showing they fast charge up to 100% which makes them back up and then Daffy steps back into frame and THEN they all finally skedaddle away from the alien or whatever they're all shrieking at. Now THAT is a Looney Tunes joke. Not just an exaggerated facial expression.
>>150152172As an adult it's whatever but I wouldn't let a child watch that it gives me the impression it would be like letting their brain smoke a metaphorical cigarette or something.
I hate how John K being a nonce killed the reputation of expressive animation, now according to moralfags Spumco-like animation (basically anything wacky, expressive, and classic cartoon influenced in general) baaaadddddd
>>150152267Your generation grew up on Ren & Stimpy, he’ll be fine
We need more cartoons that produce functioning members of society
>>150152211They aren't doing the kooky shit and snort worthy adult jokes. (And I mean s joke only an adult would get like don't open until Christmas not some dick and fart joke) Like the Clampett ones would have people turn green, deflate, do that running your finger across your lips going: "burrby-burrby-burrby" followed by their head turning into a cuckoo clock with a little bird coming out going: "Cuckoo! Cuckoo!" vs John K just had exaggerated expressions often with a grotesque body detail and/or contrasting rosy looking render. They claim they're doing the former but its obviously the latter.And then the humor is just all wrong. It's like milquetoast millennial humor. Where's the chase scene through the spaceship that gets interrupted halfway through by Daffy suddenly impersonating an IRS auditor and the alien starts backing away, sweating and gulping until he realizes its a disguise and the chase resumes? Nowhere! Instead they have a weird farmer guy that just drowned himself and a quirky scientist girl, forced dreams, and an awkward romance.
>>150152274>according to moralfagsMore like according to people with taste
>>150152280I didn't watch Ren & Stimpy because it gave me that same feeling and I think that was the right decision. I'd either flip the channel or put a VHS on
>>150152289True
>>150152262>>150152304This anon sums up what I wanted Day the Earth Blew Up to be. This film felt like a pretty good springboard for a bunch of surreal visual gags, but it played itself way too seriously for a Looney Tunes film- which by today's standards is miles wackier than most animated movies today. Everybody gave this film the benefit of the doubt simply because the bar was so low, but I feel like this film is the bare minimum of what a Looney Tunes movie should be.I was watching a Looney Tunes short on Tubi the other day (one of the throwaway WWII shorts) where the factory building itself was the catalyst for like four or five unique visual gags in the span of a few seconds, without coming off as attention-starved. This movie cuts to a shot of a factory building and it's just a factory building- and the film somehow feels more frenetic and desperate for attention in spite of it all. I feel like cartoonists are still afraid cartoony movies won't be enjoyed if they're just cartoony from beginning to end.
>>150152262>>150152304>>150152411All these. The Day the Earth Blew Up and Looney Tunes Cartoons aren't real Looney Tunes.
>>150151830Zoomie
>>150152529The only real Looney Tunes is The Looney Tunes Show
>>150152312Fag
>>150152529I'm this anon >>150152411, I'm not against the Looney Tunes Cartoons. It's the best attempt since the original run to try matching the OG shorts. I imagine it's very difficult to try convincing the WB executives to use the Looney Tunes characters in ways that don't align with a marketing bible.
Anybody who doesn't like expressive animation automatically seems like a conformist ssri zombie who has never had a based moment in his life to me.
>>150151983John K's whole schtick is sucking Bob Clampett's dick.
The only time something looks "over-animated" to me is when there's too much shit on the screen moving at one time so you don't really even know where to look.
>>150151703Don't you get tired of being a faggot?
>>150151703OP is a spooty spoothead
>>150152633I blame the TV pipeline today and adapting it to a feature length cartoon, I think they did the best they could with the resources and artists they had
>>150152249Well said.
>>150152249There is no logical connection here. “Nuanced acting” doesn't make acting “subjective.” The quality of great cartoonists and great live actors is objective.
>>150152884Yeah, this too. A lot of those LTC shorts live or die by whichever studio is doing the animation work
>>150151703>God I hate modern shitty nu-animation, I wish quality would come back>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!!That one simpsons character was right, you fuckasses have NO idea what you actually want. No wonder tradiational died.
>>150151830>Who the fuck is Bob ClampetI'm convinced, no one here is an animation fan. This board is just the "whine about indie animation and lewd over western lolis" board.
>>150152025Gachaslop cope
>>150153073Okay, I'll bite: what is the "objective" criteria for measuring acting? Believability? Expressionism? Aesthetics? Genre? Because of all these ideas are subjective.
>>150151703They kicked John K out of the industry just so they could steal the king's style and claim it for themselves. Sad!
>>150153223There was once a time when being an "animation fan" actually meant something, nowadays online cartoon communities are full of gooners and people who overanalyze story-driven writerslop beanmouth shows and say "uuuhhh leh beanmouth style doesn’t exist and akshally it does but it’s a good thing it does"
>>150153223Clampett had an overall better grasp of timing and anticipation, which I think a lot of modern "cartoony" animation, especially animation trying to emulate Clampett, lacks.
>>150152091>>150152139If 24fps is apparently the lowest amount of frames to register as "smooth", then why does 12fps for animation still look pretty good? After all, aren't all those clips of Disney movie paper tests done on 2's?
>>150153356The king of fools if anything
>>150153606Disney overwhelmingly uses 1s or 2s. 2s doesn't look bad at all, it's still full animation.
>>150152235Literally the whole Renaissance Disney era, bro.
>>150153235IMO exaggerated 3D animation looks best when the characters actually look cartoony, like in Hotel Transylvania or Cloudy, when anime characters or realistically proportioned characters are doing it it just looks weird, which is why I thought K-Slop Demon Hunters faces looked retarded and punchable
>>150151703>I’m tired of Looney Tunes, the very cartoon that that popularized wacky, expressive, outlandish animation and cartooning, being too overanimatedhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZW16iNDEOQ
>>150152017But it's not actually being dynamic like that clip. It's overanimating more mundane actions and camera direction, which is what makes it feel so forced and uncanny.
Funny how retards are claiming that Looney Tunes of all things is doing "meme faces" now.
>>150154163NIGGA NOBODY SAID THAT
>>150154163Both are bad
>>150154722Retards like you are why beanmouth shows are flooding the industry
>>150153223>Who the fuck is Bob ClampetA retarded hack
>>150152044I'm watching it now. This guy knows Borderlands has always been poorly written and the first game came out in 2009, right?
>>150152122/co/ hates when cartoons
>>150152091>karate cowWould
>>150152122When it's animated just right
>>150152122For the wacky faggot to neck himself. Would be nice, I think.
>>150152196that's not clampett lmaoanyway, my resentment is that we compare to spumco and clampett etc. as if a team of talented animators constantly second guessing what X would do is enjoyable. if you want "clampett" you instead set up a studio system that allows what originally allowed clampett's team to flourish. that's what john k attempted. similarly, all these rubberhose/inkblot pastiches suck because they don't foster the same free spirit of the 30's cartoon studio system - it's instead, day one, "draw like fleischer". if you're asking for "like clampett", you will never ever get it.
>>150152550>The only real Looney Tunes is The Looney Tunes Show
>>150151703The Day the Earth Blew Up is a great movie. I don't understand what the problem is and why people are complaining here?
>>150156784They're trying to say the animation and writing aren't authentic enough to the original cartoons.
>>150155242Stfu tranny
>>150156696Yes
>>150152025this and season 12 are real examples of overanimating since you're just putting effort into shit that didn't need it which also loses the charm
>>150156837>They're trying to say the animation and writing aren't authentic enough to the original cartoons.To me, they look really great, not exactly the same as the original, but they were aiming for that. Dan Haskett worked on it, and he is extremely strict about quality 2D animation. I don't remember enjoying that movie so much since Looney Tunes: Back in Action.
>>150152095>Mighty Mouse and Who Framed Roger RabbitThose were from the 80s. Are you unable to count? Is that why your favorite cartoon is Ren & Stimpy?
>>150152249You forgot autistic, nerd logic:>Animation is about maturity and dealing with feelings -> Anything that doesn’t look like a sitcom is bad
>>150157308There’s a lag on inspiring productions. Are you detached from how the real world works and that's why you hate Ren and Stimpy?
>>150157709Sorry but stuff made in the 80s is not "of the 90s"
>>150157738You also struggle to read. John wrote great stuff on his blog you missed out on
ITT old good new bad fags exposed
>>150157762The 80s are still not the 90s, you pseud.
>>150152156The problem with this is the second they change expressions, they're off model. It makes them look like they have no real form or substance.
>>150156696You don't hate the show itself, you hate that it's the most extreme example of sitcoms and cartoons amalgamating into one abomination, something that these days is often both an unbelievable sitcom and a boring cartoon, but checks enough boxes in theory to work and the cost savings over live-action paired with the tastes of the everyday viewer mean that it can never go one way or another. But the Looney Tunes show did it well.
>>150152633I'm torn. I really wanted to like them and they do the stuff that in paper sounds exactly like what I wanted (like Porky and Daffy going to an Aztec temple and finding some sapphire monkey statue then getting chased out of it. That's right up my alley) but I just couldn't help but notice how off the humor was and that sort of ruins it for me. Maybe I'll give them a chance again but I have ALL of the Merry Melodies, Looney Tunes, and even Disney shorts to work through because I havent seen most of them in ages and there's countless ones I've never seen so when you compare it to that it's like: "Well, why would I pick that?" I wish someone who really "got it" could be there just keeping them "on beat" for lack of a better term. I think a lot of them COULD do it, they just need someone to give them some examples like that and sort of act as an editor for their pitches until they start getting the idea. I'm sure once they figure it out they'll have fun with it, I mean who wouldn't have fun thinking up your own Looney Tunes jokes and then being able to actually make them happen?
>>150151703I'll be honest I just hate loud blubbering crying scenes.Outside that for the movie Daffy's antics didn't feel like they had any actual weight no matter what object he used nor against what. The reasons for them is a whole other issue that's always felt more like retard moment is needed than any actual reason on Daffy's part.
>>150154163I'm gonna be honest it's really the John K for me. I can respect the guy as a teacher because reading his blog is a really helpful resource but I do not care for the stuff he makes at all. If people could just NOT throw a little bit of his influence in their stuff they would be great
>>150153357I'm a gooner so that's zero fucking excuse to have this low amount of intelligence and taste.
>>150156174I'm not the one asking for Clampett, they're the ones who keep throwing his name out like a shield saying: "You don't get it, we're aping Clampett!" When they're not. I don't have a particular Looney Tunes creative in mind, I just want it to feel like Looney Tunes. To have the original flavor if you will.
>>150157847It's alright, and I don't mind it as a product, though I wish they were still making regular shorts on top of it. Though, I do wish each episode was just an entire episode instead of having the intermissions in the middle. I never enjoy them
back in my day a month ago it was called forced animation
>>150154163nuspongebob falls under meme faces too
>>150158059Clampett Daffy wasn’t a genius, but Browngardt Daffy is a fridge temperature IQ mongoloid compared to him. Cartoon characters can be airheaded, but clinically retarded has been played out since Homer Simpson. Even Stimpy was too late to be anything innovative.
>>150152312Silly thing to say, though to be honest Ren & Stimpy was fucking deranged. At times I do genuinely can't believe it was meant for kids, given the freaky shit that happens in the show
>>150153485this is true, but sadly we can't talk about that because OP is a retard who just goes "no new bad"
>>150158543Ren & Stimpy represented a time when cartoons had an edge to them, the 70’s and 80’s were too oversanitized, so 90’s cartoons rebelled against that idea by being as outlandish as possible and seeing what they could get away with, it’s not just R&S, but at the same time you had shows like Animaniacs being very sexually suggestive with Minerva Mink. Kids tv has now become incredibly oversanitized again, shows like Dexters Lab and Ren & Stimpy were enjoyed by both children and adults in the 90’s because of their adult humor, but nowadays kids shows have child protagonists, no edgy adult humor, and all teach about fwendship and feewings. Garbage like StuGo and Big City Greens aren’t loved by adults, they’re loved by autistic manchildren, no normie adult watches that trash.
Nah that scene was funny
John K's biggest hero and source of inspiration is Bob ClampettSo of course anything else inspired by Clampett is going to look vaguely Spumco
its directed by the uncle grandpa asshole, of course its shit
>>150158977This should've been the only emotional scene of the movie desu, the other one is stupid in a not funny way
>>150159021Peter Browngardt is fucking based, he made a cartoon that’s proud to be a wacky cartoon at a time when loreshit was becoming popular and angry autistic people laughed at him for it. Look at him now, he’s the head of modern Looney Tunes projects, the very franchise that’s the first thing that comes to mind when one thinks of "wacky cartoons"His writing and sense of humor is perfect for modern LT projects IMO, this film could’ve been popular among normies if only it wasn’t marketed like shit for being 2D. Unfortunately normies would rather support trash ran by non-animators like Coyote Vs. ACME.
>>150158021Yeah, I agree with you. I wanted to like them too. When I say "they were the best attempt," the best attempt is still really far off because there isn't really a close alternative. The biggest problem is that the original shorts were a combination of several types of humor (slapstick, observational, satirical, referential, absurdist) rolled up into one at a start-stop pace with legitimately paced stories. The newer shorts feel like they place an extensive focus on slapstick and trying to outfunny the old gags without fully understanding what made them funny in the first place ("instead of making the Gremlim hijack a plane, let's make him hijck an electric car!")Confessions of a Nutzy Spy is one of my favorite original shorts because the rapid-fire comedy complements dramatic camera angles and a goofy (but legitimate!) take on a suspense story.
>>150159107Pete's shitty movie flopped lmaoo
>>150159021It's ok anon, not everyone can understand intellectual humor.
Bob Clampet sucks and Chuck Jones is better.Except for the time someone made an offensive drug-related Looney Tunes parody and Jones was deeply offended while Clampet laughed so hard he almost choked. That time he was based.
>>150160048>Clampet laughed so hard he almost choked.I thought it was Avery?
>>150153235Why did blud smack his ass :skull:
>>150158245This, as well. They act like it's "classic Daffy" but it's obviously Jimmy the Idiot Boy.
>>150158543It's just what I did and how I felt. Even as an adult some friends tried to me Ren & Stimpy because "I can't believe you haven't seen it, it's wild, dude!" and I got to that scene where Ren's humping a chainsaw through Stimpy's ass cheeks and I was like: Nope, not for me, man. I'd rather watch Outlaw Star or some old Hanna Barbara stuff, or most anything else over that.
>>150158984That's not true, though. You can take it in any number of ways. Aping John K means you're taking inspiration from John K specifically and not Clampett. It's like Nirvana was created by trying to combine The Beatles with Black Sabbath (allegedly) but if someone are to listen to I've Just Seen A Face and Paranoid they're not necessarily going to write Smells Like Teen Spirit.
>>150151703>We wuz want to be Ren and Stimpy>But hey JHON K BAD IMMARIGHT?
>>150152017Yeah, and even Bob Camplett ditch it when he move out of WB
>>150158870>represented a time when cartoons had an edge>90’s cartoons rebelled against that idea by being as outlandish as possible and seeing what they could get away withThe reality isn't white and black. The 90s and early 2000s had many "sanitized" stuff and the 2010s had some edge. In 1992 you had Batman TAS with realistic guns and serious fights but in 1994 Spider-Man TAS had cops with sci-fi laser guns and spider-man wasn't allowed to directly beat his villains. In 2003 Deathstroke/Slade wasn't allowed to use his iconic guns and swords but in Teen Titans Go movie (2018) he use them. Also, in the early 2010s you got things like Mordecai looking at Margaret's tits and ass and Finn getting "raped" by LSP. Things aren't black and white. >shows like Dexters Lab and Ren & Stimpy were enjoyed by both children and adults in the 90’s because of their adult humorDon't try to rewrite history. Adult animation "fans" hated those shows back them. They become iconic overtime.
>>150160048Chuck Jones kinda feels like a smug pretentious blowhard, even though he made a ton of excellent stuff. It's not really surprising that his version of Daffy basically is a self-aware caricature of him. Meanwhile, Tex is simultaneously both Droopy and the Wolf at the same time.
>>150160048>Bob Clampet sucks and Chuck Jones is better.chuck jones found his niche and then got way too comfortable with it
>>150160048What was it called?
>>150161094This is the truest post. They want to be John K and rip off his style but he's cancelled so they have to lie and act like it's something else when it's obvious what they're doing.
>>150161250>>150161505I don't get that impression and Chuck Jones made lots of cool stuff. Sniffles the mouse, the Dover Boys, Cricket in Times Square, etc
>>150161571Rabbit Habit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN1bysnHXDg>>150161629>SnifflesLol c'mon man
>>150151703>>150151830Faggots, neck yourselves.>>150151774FPBP
>>150152140Obviously they don't quite know the word for what they're complaining about, but the fundamental complaint that it looks fucking weird in a bad way, is valid
>>150161094>>150161593Why can't retarded moralfags like you learn how to separate art from the artist anymore? The Spumco style is expressive and a homage to classic cartoons, it just looks good to cartoonists and many from that studio have denounced John K, he wasn't even the best Spumco artist, Jim Smith and Chris Reccardi drew far better than him and I usually replicate their styles rather than Johns when I aim for a Spumco look with my art.I swear 4Chan becomes more and more like Twitter each day.
>>150159785No shit, retard, any film can flop when given shitty marketing, if you think that a films box office determines its quality you're a dumbass. I guess by your logic Minions is kino cause it won back its budget.
>>150162117>Replying to a trollYou won't survive the winter.
>>150153357The fact that a retarded thread like this even exists just shows how much of a joke the online animation community is these days.
>>150162117Pete's gonna be out of a job you retard kek
>>150151863There are already essays in the anime community as that's where the problem originated.
>>150162167You're the troll, you actually defend this awful movie
>>150162236And we know the kind of pretentious scum that gravitate towards that content
>>150162229Where's your job bro?
>>150162284You're a diddler lmao
>>150161786You don't like Sniffles?
>>150162309Stop projecting
>>150161786Well, that was horrible
>>150162054I dont give a crap about what John K did. I do, however dislike his style which is besides the point. What I'm saying is they obviously want to do his style but won't just admit it because they think they'll get cancelled so they make up excuses that they're doing something else when they're clearly not. If they're going to do it they should just admit it. Not only because it's the truth, but because then I know what to avoid because I can't stand that style. I'll go see a movie that's truly inspired by Clampett, Jones, Avery, or any other, but if you're doing Spumco let me know and I'll avoid it because I don't find any humor in grotesque idiocy.
>>150162818They aren't trying to replicate John's style dumbshit, they're trying to replicate the Spumco style in general, which was composed of many artists. Funny how you state that Looney Tunes artists like Clampett, Jones, and Avery had unique artstyles when it was literally the same case for R&S.We also got Spumco inspired stuff made these days thats very blatant about it, post-sequel SpongeBob is run by Ren & Stimpy artists Vincent Waller and Bob Camp who are very clear with how Ren & Stimpy derived their direction is.
>>150151703I never gave this movie a watch because: 1-I thought Looney Tunes Cartoons was shit, too many gross out and butt jokes making it felt closer to Cow & Chicken than the original Looney Tunes 2-No Speedy or Pepe segments aside from that one cameo which ended up removing Pepe in the end anyways 3-too little variety even after Bugs became the most popular LT in the 40s the original shorts still were very varied with lots of characters and one offs, Looney Tunes Cartoons was mostly Bugs, Porky and Daffy spammed over and over and over 4-Movie is called "A Looney Tunes movie", but they only use Daffy, Porky and Petuniabesides according to the animators themselves there are plenty of LTC shorts that WB refused to release due to their content so these are lost media now and are the reason as to why LTC on HBO MAX repeats many of the shorts to fill some episodes' runtime
OP would no doubt have a fucking seizure trying to watch these shows
>>150163303Do you not have anything better to do? Go to sleep
>>150163303>regular show>overanimated
>>150163324What are you talking about dude
>>150163204Basically this
>>150163204>plenty of LTC shorts that WB refused to release due to their contentIs this true? What kind of content?
>>150163327Yes dude
>>150163204The Droopy short they made is also unreleased still
>>150161786The main thing that got me was 3:57. I also liked that they incorporated "eat at joe's" with the meth lab tubes.
>>150163805NTA but yeah it's true, multiple artists confirmed there are unreleased shorts because the S&P didn't approve of them. Pic related was screened at Annecy six years ago but wasn't released on HBO Max.>What kind of content?Violence, I guess?
>>150163898i forgot how much i hated the cum stained gloves. why try to be traditional with something that wasn't even attributed to the actual design of bugs bunny they're using
I swear Looney Tunes fans are the most miserable people in existence
>>150163813By this logic even TTG is overanimated
>>150163813I don't see it
>>150163898This looks so bad
>>150151863>These thumbnailsI hardly watch anything on YouTube anymore besides rewatching videos I had watched before. These look dreadful.
>>150163204Not a fan of how their Daffy looks
>>150163204>>150164246Aside from the same Bugs, Daffy & Porky segments being spammed and the bare male butts/grossout spam It was missing this gag, that's the real problem
>>150164246Right duck: century old friend of a corporate mascotLeft duck: maniac who will ruin your life in 6 minutes and laugh while doing so>>150163916Happens when the item of obsession is so old that nobody left can remember, much less emulate, everything that made it great.
>>150151830It's not that they didn't do it. They just didn't do it BADLY. There's an art to exaggerated expressions and it's very easy to fuck up.
>>150164246You're trying too hard
friendly reminder this is already too much animation for you guys.
>>150152289cartoons aren't that important
>>150152304And Daffy twerking.............I hope the faggot with the idea dies.......IN HELL!
>>150153223after having gone to a con this past weekend it's not just the internet. I went to a billy and mandy panel and one of the questions was what did atoms do after billy and mandy. shit the entire room didn't even know about bunnicula.Unironically the only people keeping the animation fandom alive are boomers. I can count a handful of people who have actually watched a series let alone a season of a show.
>>150153235
>>150162988Ok, well I don't care for the Spumco style and I think they're still trying to dodge around admitting that's what they're doing because of the association with John K.
the one big issue i have with browngardt's looney tunes is that it draws such heavy influence from clampett it just makes me wish i was watching clampett instead
>>150152044I didn't see it, but the problem is that "millennial writing" doesn't exist, it's always Gen X who are truly responsible.
>>150163204That reminds me, these people also suck and deserve no hand holding because of that. Getting rid of Speedy and Pepe AND refusing to let Elmer and Yosemite Sam have guns because it's "problematic"???? If you're offended by a Looney Tunes cartoon, I'm sorry, but you're a stupid faggot and your opinions don't deserve to be heard or respected. The GAUL to be a crappy animator and think you can police THE LOONEY TUNES. The disrespect.>>150163303I did not watch any of those shows except for early Spongebob when I was a kid. Even then I believe I stopped watching after Atlantis Squarepantis.>>150163898>>150163915I can't believe they got away with the gloves thing. WHY? Why would you want to do that?>>150164246I also dislike their Daffy. Like, just use the good one that everyone likes.
>>150153235>Gachaslop >tranimationyou're retarded.
>>150151703>overanimated>underanimatedNot possible. It's either animated or it isn't.
>>150151703When you grow up watching nothing but sterile Cartoon Network slop, it's not surprising that being exposed to actual animation can over-stimulate a dumb zoomer brain.
We need some underanimated shows that look like this.
>>150163303The only, and I mean ONLY, cartoon that's "overstimulating" is Ren and Stimpy.
>>150155412He was definitely hiding his power level to not scare out the purple pills and filter out the normies and falls incredibly short in his copium that Twitter was the source of all the issues in the industry (as if the producers were just clueless idiots who had not clue what their consumer base wants, obvious BULLSHIT is obvious). But I think he still does a great job of encapsulating the majority of the observable issues plaguing storytelling in modern videogames, just never expect a video from jevvtube to ever get get below just the surface level of the far bigger, grimmier picture, as always.
>>150164387It very much is though. Too much squash and stretch, anticipation frames, character acting and body language that communicate nothing to the audience and are so obnoxious that they betray the reserved, subtle and mischieveous/untrustworthy/unpredictable nature of the character they were supposed to portray. All of this misguided extra care and attention to the animation only succeds in distracting the audience from paying attention to the conversation if anything at all.More animation =/= better animation
>>150167069>distracting the audience from paying attention to the conversationi'm used to hearing network executives and sitcom showrunners talk like this, but it's especially disheartening to see on a hobbyist board
>>150163204>>150163303>>150163915>>150167069God this thread is autistic as fuck, do some you retards even hear yourselves?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kHpXle4NqWI&pp=ygUWRXZlcnkgZnJhbWUgYSBwYWludGluZw%3D%3DRemember that even Chuck Jones got tired of over-animation.
>>150165477Stfu
>>150164237Protip: if you include "before:2010" or whatever your preferred cut-off year in your search, you will only get videos uploaded before then. It makes for a much less vile experience.
>>150151703Do you mean overanimation as in too many frames, too many secondary movements, or too much exaggerated acting? I can agree to each of these in varying degrees, but they aren't the same problems.
>>150152000I honestly love that show. Surely wish it got more recognition and love in more general public eyes..
>>150151830Wow, incredible, you're 100% wrong.
>>150152091Kinda sad to know wesrern animation basically became this, thats why characters are resedigned to be inthe simplest of shapes, thats the whole reason the calarts style of animation exist.Geez, hanna barbera ruined everything for us all.
>>150158977does this have a tag on the boorus. for full on blubbering. I kinda want to see that.
>>150151703Disgusting
>>150151703Aren't we all?
>>150167274Truth hurts
>>150167189>i'm used to hearing network executives and sitcom showrunners talk like this, but it's especially disheartening to see on a hobbyist boardThe average zoomer has the same design sensibilities as a network executive.
>>150151774Yes.
>>150167202What’s wrong with being autistic?
I haven't watched ALL of the Looney Tunes Cartoons, but from what I did see one thing I didn't like how they treated the main three - Bugs is always on his own (aside from Elmer/Sam), Daffy and Bugs never interact, and Daffy and Porky are always a duo and never have solo cartoons of their own. Why were they so weird with them?
>>150151703>no, that's too looney
>>150163898God I hate the yellow gloves. Why can't things be white anymore? I hated the off-white, 'cream' color of the Warners' faces in the Animaniacs revival, too.
>>150171901Nobody actually likes us
>>150170865Retard
>>150173037>Dot's fingers going through the railsbruh
>>150151830Retards exposing themselves in the (you)s. Looney Tunes didn’t do this shit. It typically relied on more subtle reactions from the characters to contrast the whacky hijinks. However, Daffy Duck has consistently overreacted in nearly every animation he’s ever been in, it’s a staple of his character. Porky Pig should be a little more subdued to heighten the contrast in my opinion, that’s my only issue with it.But also it is ugly and looks too clean for my tastes. So I don’t know.
>>150163916It’s all animation fans really.>Fan 1: I like this animation style/studio/series>Fan 2: I prefer this one>Fan 1: You’re Hitler!
>>150152156>/co/cksuckers will look at this and ignore it.
>>150173605Spermco fags are like "yooo 'more expressive' = always better!!" and don't see anything retarded about it. It's a fool's errand trying to talk to people with one-dimensional thinking.
>>150151863>>150152044>>150165225It's just cope from zoomers knowing they're a generation without culture.
>>150154163Kill all wojakposters
>>150174215My generation has the antichrist
>>150173730The right is funny, Spongebob is a funny cartoon.
>>150152267Considering your posting here I doubt your thought child has much of a chance anyways
>>150174293Your axiom: Everyone thinks the same things are funny as yourself.
>>150174459There’s nobody alive who hates anything about the first season of Spongebob.
>>150151703Hey, >>>/a/ is over there.
>>150174274>The mouth smiles, the eyes don't.I have only watched one video of his.It gave me a very dystopian feeling.Also it's just reality tv on the internet and I fucking hate reality tv.
>>150173730Animation where animators can have fun drawing unique expressions and poses sounds much more fun to look at than giving a cartoon lame Disney acting that you've already seen in hundreds of other shit
>>150152044>>150166896>>150165225millennial writing is just a bunch of 30 something year old nerds who were never popular or cool in high school and/or college trying to write characters that are suppose to be cool.millenial "humor" is self-deprecating jokes about being poor that the more you experience that type of humor the more you become convinced that being poor is a lifestyle choice and the people who make these kinds of jokes choose to be poor.
>>150151703No, anon, anything that isn't png's sliding across the screen isn't over animation.
>>150174459This is a pedophilic response meant for a kid Ren and Stimpy, Looney Tunes, Popeye, all had a massive audience for their wild and creative animation.>>150174619I'm sure God finds things he's disappointed about.
>>150154163I'm all for euthanizing wojakers and pepebois.You can quote me on that NSA glownigs.
>>150154722I bet your only acceptable form of media is B^Uckley comics.
>>150173154Holy shit.
Spongebob is just the only cartoon that lets these guys do whatever the fuck, everything else out there is a tweened piece a shit or a loretoon. Adult animation is completely out of the question.
>>150152139>if only you knew how bad things really are>>150153606I can't stand it when parts of a scene are animated on different frames.It's like when a modern film records shots from one camera, as if accidentally set up wrong at the start of the project, at 60fps, and no-one cared to edit it down when putting it together.
>>150154163>looney tunes faces are bad because... nuSpongebob and zoomer shows are bad?
>>150174619I don't like the color palette.
>>150164387That animation is just flicking a character around repeatedly.Emphasis on flicking.>eye roll>oh her wings are out>oh she disappeared>she's floating down>oh she's now the other way around>oh she's bouncing a lotHaha, yeah, let's minimise in between frames and focus on the keyframes the overpaid storyboarder wants us to make.I wouldn't be surprised if their software does the "smears" for them and they only need minimal manual editing.I would assume this is genuinely desired in children's shows rather than an incidental evolution caused by current year factors, as it's not new nor uncommon to be hyperactive and meaningless, in children's shows.
>>150167248>we know wile e coyote's traps fail>so it's funnier when it happens off screenNo. It's funny because it's funny. It happening off screen is not an inherent part of his character, it's the save budget, especially as the golden age is not only already over, there's less and less money coming in to pay for the cheap artists who ink and paint the cels by tracing the sketches.>>150173154I recall that show having a lot of cheap animation. Like scaling things up and down, digitally, to imply distance changing/movement.
stupid thread
>Original people do something dramatic and exaggerated>It fits and looks good>People who grew up on this shit just copy the same exact stuff but forget to put the soul in it>Faggot redditors and animators get mad that people don't eat up their shit slop despite it being the "SAME EXACT THING" (its not) Yeah sorry faggot I'm not watching the new seasons of Sponge Bob.
>>150174712>it's just reality tv on the internet Well no wonder he's so huge, people LOVE reality TV
>>150177298YOU'RE a stupid thread.
