webcomics were the next big thing from 2000 to 2015, everybody had one, xkcd, Ctrl+Alt+Del, Dinosaur Comics, Penny Arcade, Hello Cthulhu, the list could go on... what went wrong? why did people stop caring about webcomics? did it just mature as a format and converge with actual comics? now there seems to be only sloppy politics webcomics, but nothing with an original vision from an author
>>150152323I honestly don't know. My only guess is everything got lame and it took the steam out of everyone's sails. Webcomics has this kind of playfulness like: "Yeah we live in this safe and cushy society and we can be a little silly, too." It's sort of like the equal and opposite reaction of that 90's ennui of: "OMG I've got a well paying job and no problems I'm going insane ahhhhh" but with humor.
Smartphones took off and no one's gonna read your comics anymore unless they're in a format suited for phones.
Death of the internet is a major factor. People aren't going to go to your website so your comic isn't going to get views unless it's on an app. And no one's gonna look at your app just to view a comic.
>>150152392>comic books dead>cartoons dead>Anime is dead>YouTube is dead>Videogames are deadWhat do we do?
>>150152410Get married and have kids?
>>150152419So that's who's behind this
>>150152365i like stonetoss, but it's not that great and specially it's not that creative, the jokes pretty much write themselves, though i have to admit that stonetoss has a great touch to make the jokes very expressive and streamlined without adding unnecessary elements that other artists do ruining the joke
>>150152425>>150152419
>>150152419nice try shinzo
>>150152410There's always movie->Anything that isn't a full arthouse film is aimed at kids or teens, mainly composed of capeshit and franchise remakes/reboots/revivalsWell at least there's musi->The indie scene has no clear direction whatsoever, mainstream music is just various forms of pop that haven't changed at all in 20 yearsThere's always literatu->The biggest book hits of the last 15 years are just fetish stories and embellished stories about celebritiesWell there's still televisi->Major corporations are flailing about throwing money at TV shows that fail to catch audiences whatsoever due to poor writing, acting, and directing across the boardUhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>150152425Shinzo Abe has been foiled again
>>150152410>>150152481Just do what I do: Pretend that the entire world stopped in 2007 and only engage with media from then or older. The last two decades have sucked donkey dick.
>>150152481>>The indie scene has no clear direction whatsoever, mainstream music is just various forms of pop that haven't changed at all in 20 yearsoh you are 5 years too late... people are listening to playlists of AI generated slop on Spotify and don't even know the name of any song
>>150152472A Big Wife you say
>>150152323Based and slapstickpilled
>>150152323What are even the most popular webcomics these days? Koreaslop doesn't count
>>150152419But social media ruined women too
>>150152674courtesy of the world economic forum
>>150152364>>150152392This, webcomics existed in a bubble where the internet was much smaller and subcultures were more fringe and niche. Once everyone started using the internet, it became predictable and commercial.
>>150152709Sinfest is still going strong and was one of the original ones, but not sure how often it publishes, and as they said above Stonetoss is probably the biggest one, but it's just sloppy topical political stuff, not much creativity even if it's funny
>>150152721>tfw no massive containership gf
They were a quaint and primitive way to kill time on the internet and then social media arrived it did the same thing much more effectively.
>>150152410We learn necromancy...
>>150152753That feel doe.. Kinda suprised no pron of that royal Caribbean ship that had it's water slide damaged could have easily made her into a shipfu with a wet top.
>>150152323Webcomics still exist, they're just posted to twitter or bluesky or some shit. They don't have their own dedicated websites anymore.
>>150152410>>150152481Stop consuming mainstream crap and you'll find something good from all of these things.
>>150152323Webcomics have always been a little niche. Artists now would rather use their energy to keep up to date with weekly art trends on social media instead of working on something unfamiliar to the public for weeks at a time.
>>150152323Why wait 1 week for 2-1 pages when you can pirate comics?
Any good webcomics you guys recommend?
>>150153010all webcomics are stupid, you just have to find the kind of stupid that makes you chuckle... webcomics and newspaper comics have always been a very casual kind of entertainment, almost more about feeling comfy reading it than any kind of serious quality
>>150152323>comics about the current state of social mediaOy vey! How dare you notice things and try to actually satirize reality? This will simply not do goyim!
>>150153056You say that as if narrative webcomics don't exist and are like half of them in existence.
>>150152481You said it yourself. Pop culture is growing more low-brow, greedy, and desperate, and this was always inevitable. Find niche stuff and engage with that.
>>150152410also die
>>150153099they exist, but at that point it's more of a normal comic author getting an audience before jumping to normal publishing, i was talking more about the webcomic stripe where it's supposed to be an online thing intrinsically
>>150153010Boston and Shaun
>>150152323Isn't the reason because webtoon just centralizes all that in their own website?
>>150153010Oglaf was millennial degenerate kino at the time, i haven't read it in a while so it may not translate well now after the progressive degenerate tyranny epoch
>>150152410
The industry knew how to write comedy for 90 years. And then they just forgot
>>150153278That cartoon from 2022 isn't even airing anymore (and I'm not sure it was in 2022, it's from like 2018). Also couldn't you find a better image for 1922?
>>150152410They’re not “dead” you just have to play the algorithm, our entire society is headed into tech and crypto worship and if you work in entertainment you have to either get with it or get lost, as a wise man once said.Back in the day it was simple: you had genres and sub genres…well now EVERYTHING is a sub genre of a sub genre, you must find your lane and base and milk them dry, if you do so successfully you’ll attach others who want to win over the algorithm or feed off the pot of worship and discourse that illuminates from your franchise to feel involved in something- invincible, the boys, Amphibia, mawts- all found their weird little niches and RAN WITH IT.Trying to hit for mass global appeal is dead, small market that transforms into big market through the nature of the internet is the new wavepic-related has given Dexter a MASSIVE resurgence through a meme for people who don’t even watch the show, it’s all about the algorithm now
Biggest recent webcomic? Elf comic
>>150153010Hello from Halo Head
>doomer thread #3829494928daring today are we?
>>150152323>Mario eating a mushroom but its drugsIt was never that funny or clever, but I miss it compared to modern gaming humor.
>>150153358we mvst retvrn
>>150153332>webcomic is a vehicle for their kinksbased
>>150153302it's a good meme, Dexter had a lot of potential and a great opening, but the series kind of went nowhere
>>150153358melancholy is fun, let me be
>>150153302>>150153438I don't even know what that meme is. Feels good not to be terminally online on twitter and tiktok.
Popular culture became extremely solipsistic, borne out of the terror of 'appropriation', so that unless based on an existing property, every movie, book, comic, or webcomic is written for an audience of one, its author.
>>150152419like anyone can afford that nowadays
>>150153010Normalsville
>>150153302>pic-related has given Dexter a MASSIVE resurgence through a meme for people who don’t even watch the showDidn’t its revival get immediately cancelled. Some good that meme did
>>150152410When we lose I Can't Sleep and TCOAAL it's fucking over
>>150153966Well someone's out there doing it.
>>150152323All of those were shit. That's what went wrong.
>>150152419Impossible. My wife and kids are dead.
Webcomics kind of fell off as millennials grew up, got jobs, and no longer had time to spend reading webcomics all day and didn't have to settle exclusively for free entertainment.Kind of like how the gay online tumblr fandoms for zoomers are starting to die out and be replaced by gay online tumblr fandoms for gen alpha, now that the oldest zoomers are in their late 20s, are starting to have real careers that take up more time, and are about to hit their first *real* identity crisis. They've slowly started to realize that wasting their youth on pointless internet shit and arguing with retards over drawings was not a good idea.
>>150152410>What do we do?Stop believing memes.
>>150152323The internet shrunk dramatically where if you're not on one of like 10 websites you may as well not exist.It didn't feel like that back in 2000.
>>150153935>borne out of the terror of 'appropriation'Dude, only like the 5% most libtarded tumblrina authors care about that. Also, it's retarded to think that if you write about what you like and what you know then you yourself the only person it's for. There are only so many topics, you're bound to have millions people who could be potentially interested if you do a good job
>>150153010If you're into Urban fantasy, I'd suggest Anno Arcanahttps://tapas.io/series/Annoarcana/info
>>150152481Good movies are still being made : Mars Express came out in 2023 and is fucking amazing. Metal Lords and Entergalactic where good.Good music is still being made : Unleash the Archers, The Jazz AvengersGood TV shows are still being made : The Penguin, The Night Manager, Wednesday, Euphoria, Arcane I'm sure good books are still being written but my eyesight is shot with age and reading with glasses isn't fun.Your problem is that you refuse to go out and find the good stuff. You insist on sitting still and letting corporations dictated what you consume. Get off your ass and search out the good stuff.
>>150154775>Wednesday, EuphoriaSorry, I don't take the opinions of people over 40 who watch modern media seriously, I've come to realize that you all are not particularly discerning.
>>150153056>all webcomics are stupidThis isn't remotely true.
>>150152323Social media turned them into engagement bait instead of actual comics
>>150154775Ah yes, obscure non-corporate-dictated things like Unleash the Archers, Wednesday, and Arcane. I hope you're shitposting.
>>150155033what's a smart webcomic? i remember it being mostly millennial dumb humor
>>150155119something scienc-y
Webcomics have died out because people don't go to random one-off websites that only serve one purpose anymore. They go to aggregator social media sites like Twixter and the like to see all the stuff they like at once. These sites also make it impossible to read a comic like It's Walky or CAD that have storylines, and if you make a silly goofy gag a day strip like VG Cats or Penny Arcade you'll get drowned out quickly by the hundreds of other people making comics about the same subject. You might go viral once or twice but a significant audience is not going to keep reading you consistently. The webcomics that are still around are only around because their creators hit it big when the medium was its peak. Social media, and by extension smart phones, destroyed the fucking Internet. They killed it.
>webcomic has deep lore
>>150155249>Decent webcomic with great art gets canned.Many such cases
>>150152364Landscape orientation, not that difficult.
>>150152323Mario getting high off shrooms is funny af stop being such a prude lol
>>150155479Mario getting high off shrooms is a joke that was run into the ground 30 years ago.
>>150155535No that was your birth haha
RECOMMEND GOOD WEBCOMICS INSTEAD OF BITCHING ABOUT THINGS BEING BETTER IN THE PASTBE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE
>>150155571Moon Over June
>>150152323Gold Rush Mentality.The second you're hearing about how lucrative and awesome something is, it's already too late. Someone will have a breakout success, then there will be fuckloads of imitators, and then... OOPS! Market is oversaturated and all the money is gone.It's the same shit for coders, for example. I remember hearing for the last 10 years about how awesome computer science is, and how computer science is the future and- UH OH! Those jobs are now fucking worthless and they're all being fired and/or replaced with AI!Happens over and over, and yet we never learn our lessons. The real secret sauce is to just do what you're naturally inclined to do, and just hope that you get lucky enough to ride a wave nobody sees coming. By the time you're hearing about it, it's already too late to paddle out.All these webcomics suck ass because the artists just wanted a gluttonous slice of pie, but there was never enough pie to go around.
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>>150154617No the prequel got cancelled but expect them to undo that decision soon, the revival is going strong and people are going back to watching the original series because of Doakesposting
>>150153438I agree, the Doakes meme made me pick up the show but honestly i wasn’t impressed, felt unfinished to me and too dark
>>150155975The prequel seems to have been cancelled though so they can focus more on the revival. The prequel had a second season ordered and was doing well.
>>150155078>obscure non-corporate-dictatedThe mission was to find good stuff, not to find stuff completely untouched by "corporate." And in 2025, I would hazard that nothing is untouched by "corporate."
>>150152323Fixed.
>>150154775>The Penguin, The Night Manager, Wednesday, Euphoria, ArcaneI thought you were serious until this part. lmao, well done.
>>150152323just cut it
>>150156929That post LITERALLY said to look beyond what was being dictated by corporations anon.
will IJQ ever return to making webcomics?
>>150152410die ourselves
>>150152364fuck off, phonescum
>>150152323>>150152364>>150152392webcomics still exist but they're all relatable gag strips posted on twitter
>>150152323>I only browse twitter and webtoon "manga" wannabe comics and that means comics are dead! no I never venture out to other sites like comicfury for comics why would I do that?
>>150153010Most recent thing I read is Moumantai Motherfuckers since it got added to the Foxglove Comics list and I liked it. Style is pretty cool toohttps://mmfcomic.com/
>>150161489or highly niche porn
>>150161489twitter becoming the hub for the majority of artists on the planet is the worst thing to happen to this world
>>150152410>>Anime is deadCoping here
>>150152410stop believing in memes
>>150155571Puffer and Clarissa is fun
>>150155177you probably could've stopped this at the 4th panel and it would've been funnier, at least cut 5 and 6nobody who needs the exact joke of "the universe is nonsensical at times" explained to them was going to laugh in the first place
>>150155571HOW ABOUT WHINGING THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ISSUES YOU OPEN YOUR EYES TO FLAWS OF THE MEDIUM AND MARKETA BUNCH OF GOOKS BUYING OUT WEBCOMIC SITES AND MAKING THEM ALL PHONE ORIENTED FOR THEIR CHINK/GOOK MARKET DOES MORE DAMAGE THAN ME MAKING MY SHIT WILL BE ABLE TO FIGHT
>>150164641i think that's the key why Stonetoss is the only good political comic artist lately, everybody else can't help themselves but add too many panels, he is good at reducing the comics to the minimum required, even if it's not very creative
