Why is wonder woman so popular if she doesn't have any good or interesting stories?
>>150152770Pick the reason that would make you the angriest.
>>150152770Lynda Carter in the 70s. That is literally it.
>>150152770People know her as a mascot for the idea of female empowerment and superheroines. Harley Quinn kind of displaced her on that spot in the last decade, though now her appeal is waning too, so they're desperately trying to find other DC superheroines to make marketable. Like Hawkgirlboss or the drunk Supergril fanfiction.
>>150152907>Harley Quinn kind of displaced her on that spot in the last decadebarely, DC trying to constantly push Harley doesn't mean it was a successful attempt, and the same applies to Marvel pushing Carol as Captain Marvel. Diana will always be the face of superheroines.
Comics used to be popular besides highly marketed 4-12 issue story arcs. People used to read random monthly issues and be entertained and endeared to the characters that way.
>>150152770Because most superhero fans are men who fantasize about having sex with a strong and sexy woman like WW
>>150153041Normies never read Wonder Woman. She was never a top seller.
>>150152770cool design
>>150152770Because she’s hot
>>150153053comics at one point were big enough that normies would read things that aren't top sellers.
>>150152770she's a great supporting character
>>150152770The single episode character Flats the Flounder from SpongeBob has more personality in his left fin than Wonder Woman has in her 84 years of comic, television and movie history.
>>150153180>/co/ - Comics & Cartoons>hasn't read a single WW comicnever fails
Notice how he didn't cite any WW comics that prove she has personality
Simple: men want her and women want to be her.
>>150153127Complete delusion. Comics were always niche, just less niche than they are today.
they're making inroads
>>150153694>dude just trust me.
Fellas, I know how to make WW popular.
>>150153722I'm not seeing any sources for your claim of normies ever buying WW either.
>>150152770Wonder Woman, many times, has had the most consistently good comics out of any major DC character.Her post crisis run up to around the new millennium was all quite strong, and since Rebirth her books have also been consistently good.But she doesn't have a lot of super successful out-of-continuity runs or miniseries like Batman and Superman have.So for Wonder Woman, her best comics are just the highest quality parts of her various on-goings. So they lack a definitive start and end. Much harder to share and talk about then say The Dark Knight Returns or All Star Superman.
>>150152770>Why is wonder woman so popularShe really isn't
>>150152770Pity
>>150153970Early George Perez WW from the '80 is some of the best stuff DC ever published.
>>150152770Hot woman, star spangled bikini
>>150153978Yeah she's more 'famous' than popular.While she is still loved as a concept by many women and girls, and has the potential for a larger fanbase or popularity, the amount of people who genuinely read her comic books, know about her character at all, and would actively call themselves 'fans' of her is very, very small.Because her comic books have always been seen as more of a girly thing, despite them being basically the same shit of every superhero, most existing comic book nerds don't know about Diana, nor really like her.So in practice, if you got DC fans to list their favorite characters from the DC universe, she may not even be in the top ten.I quite like Wonder Woman though.
>>150154079>I quite like Wonder Woman though.Me too, anon. Me too.
>>150153970>Her post crisis run up to around the new millennium was all quite stronglol nonot even Perez' run maintained quality past the origin
>>150152881nothing wrong with that since it's the best version
>>150153970>But she doesn't have a lot of super successful out-of-continuity runs or miniseries like Batman and Superman havethis, you're the only one here with a brain. Wonder Woman has a bunch of well-esteemed runs but she's not "popular" the same way as the other two is because she doesn't have something like All-Star Superman or a billion animated adaptations that help audiences become familiar with her supporting and villain cast without having to read aa mainline comic (that may or may not require context, the uncertainty is what puts off people from trying mainline comics). The closest she has is either Earth One, which is closer to Marston's run rather than the contemporary Wonder Woman people usually think of, or The Legend of Wonder Woman which isn't all that popular or well-written. Diana has always had consistently good comics, it's just that for newcomers the only source of standalone media they can consume are the Lynda Carter show or the DCEU (or something worse like Injustice), which gives the false impression that she's not popular. And as we know /co/ doesn't read comics so even the retards here think Wonder Woman isn't popular just like the normies on TikTok, or claim that Harley Quinn is bigger than her.
>>150154173In general, even if you do read on-going comics, it's hard to really recommend any particular arc or issue. Mini-series are, by far, easier to begin and share. Like let's use Jimmy Olsen as an example.If I were making a video, or a short, or even just recommending a comic of Jimmy Olsen to another person, it would be way easier to just say "Read the 'Who killed Jimmy Olsen' maxi-series." Than "Idk I personally think that issue 64 of Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen is pretty good."I mean, in general, when the hell do you here people recommend any random issue from the middle of a run?What Superman fan has ever recommended a Superman comic by saying "Issue 689 of Action Comics is pretty good." Or a Batman fan saying "You should check out issue 32 of volume 4 of Batman."And unfortunately for Wonder Woman, all of her mini series are pretty bad. Amazon's Attack is fucking terrible, and Wonder Woman (ironically) barely shows up in it. Earth One somehow managed to make William Marston's original run appear subtle, and often these books don't even get her characterization right.
>>150153176This. Wonder Woman is a great counter to Superman's idealism and batman's down to earth approaches. Wonder woman is a warrior and the only reason she doesn't go for the kill when she fights alongside them is due to respect.
>>150152770being an icon is a lot more than just stories or comics anon
>>150152907Yeah about Harley's popularity....
>>150152770ass
Amazonium3D
>>150152770Industry plant
>>150153176>she's a great supporting characterNail, meet head. Even in her better runs (Perez), Wonder Woman was usually the least interesting character in her own comics. >isn't a regular human like Batman>doesn't have a human upbringing like Superman, Flash, Aquaman, and Green Lantern>doesn't have relatable or entertaining personality traits like Martian ManhunterShe has a job as a diplomat from a fictional society of immortal warrior-women, and her personality switches from Xena to Disney Princess to Plank of Wood depending on who's writing. How anyone is supposed to have any feeling for her is beyond me.
>>150153176Eh. I wouldn't go that far.
>>150152770She is very very popular with Hornballs and Woman, which was the nature of her design and existence to be fair. Also she kind of monopolized the female superhero concept since her entire creation is geared towards being just that, it’s like Superman with the word “Super”- you have to care about him even if he’s not really that entertaining and remains a relic of the past.Wonder Woman is meant to simultaneously be a feminist symbol and a degenarate’s wet dream, this hypocrisy not only makes it impossible to create good stories centered around her, but utterly pointless as well. Because that’s not why her fans buy her merchandise
>>150153774>I'm not seeing any sources for your claim of normies ever buying WW either.They sold them on the newsstand.
>>150155751>>Even in her better runs (Perez), Wonder Woman was usually the least interesting character in her own comics.>picks the genesis of Wonder Woman being the most boring character around, that informed everything going forward>is surprised that she is the most boring character aroundtry not reading post-crisis dogshit
>>150152881People who didn't experience Wonder Woman smiling at them every week will never get it
>>150157119Lynda Carter aged very well
>>150157119mid
>>150152770Reverse potential man meme.
>>150152770when i was younger i really wanted a doll of her despite not reading any story’s about her or knowing about her at all, i just think it was the whole ‘feminist’ vibe they were trying to have her give off
>>150156100>go read some pre-Crisis slop for 5 year-olds
>>150156065>Wonder Woman is meant to simultaneously be a feminist symbol and a degenarate’s wet dream, this hypocrisy not only makes it impossible to create good stories centered around her, but utterly pointless as wellAnon... did you ever head about what women write?
>>150152770Wondie works better as a secondary character
What about wonder woman blood?
>>150157968Is it her time of the month already?
>>150158002The new 52.
>>150158115The joke---------Your head
>>150158190It wasn't funny.
>>150157240
My...that's a big one.
>>150158348Linda Carter isn't white
>>150157732And you go watch your post Flashpoint Slop.
>>150154016>tattoos Disgusting
Why does every WW thread have to start with some negative shitpost?
>>150158374I'm reminded of how they set up Wonder Woman meeting the last Amazon for the third movie. I wonder what that would have been like.
>>150152770She's not popular at all. DC just persistently pretends she is. No one buys her comics.
Wonder Woman works better in publicity art, advertising, covers etc. than in stories, and it so happens that more people will encounter them that way than in comics.She’s an impossibly beautiful woman with a magic lasso, magic bracelets and an American flag bathing suit. Everyone who sees a drawing of her remembers what she looks like.There may be superheroes who break this rule but I think like if you make a list of the most famous superheroes, they’re usually heroes who are iconic and memorable in still drawings or even silhouettes. Wolverine, Spider-Man, Batman, Superman tell you everything important about them from the way they pose and their accessories (claws, webbing, utility belt). Wonder Woman can compete with them on that level, that’s why the title sequence of the TV show was based on showing how Lynda Carter looked like a drawing of the character come to life.Her comic stories aren’t very memorable but that’s not what makes a superhero world-famous.
>>150159291It is the fastest way to get engagement.
>>150159560That, or lust provoking image
>>150159291Every WW thread should be about her being into lolis
>>150153970>>150154173>>150154274Her post-Crisis ongoings were still worse than those of Superman, Batman, Aquaman and Flash, for the sake of big name heroes. Her entire Silver Age was absolute trash compared to all of them as well. Not that DC Silver Age anything was particularly good, but Superman at least had the odd good story, and Flash/Green Lantern had most of their important facets created then. Wonder Woman does have the most interesting Golden Age stories though out of any DC stuff (if we aren’t retroactively counting Plastic Man as DC).Her problem is that she lacks a distinct characterization. Superman and Batman do. Even among variations, they’re generally well understood. Wonder Woman on the other hand is constantly being retooled, like every new writer wants to reinvent her. The blueprint created by Marston, with the focus on love and “gentle domination” isn’t exactly universal as a concept, so writers take her in different directions. Her most popular take is unfortunately the warrior princess one, where she’s willing to kill where other heroes won’t, which ultimately feels like trying to compensate to male audiences so they aren’t embarrassed to read a female hero.So she will always remain the quintessential super-heroine, the feminist icon, the third of DCs Trinity, but without a core characterization, she will never have stories with the same depth as the prestigious miniseries that Superman, Batman, or any other heroes have.
>>150152947Harley's popularity largely came down to being a popular Halloween costume and a potential Deadpool for DC
>>150152770>if she doesn't have any good or interesting stories?Among the trinity she has been the only one able to keep a consistent quality in her comics going from mid in the worst case to peak for many decades. Warner not doing good adaptations or you not reading comics it's another thing.
>>150161150>peak for many decadessee >>150154142
>>150152770Femdom
>>150161266While I disagree with this it doesn't disprove my point, I called consistency, if the story is an 8/10 at the beginning but later dropped to a 6-7/10 and once another writter came it became good again it has been consistent. This isn't the case for Superman or Batman. Superman's only good run since new 52 has been Tomasi with everything else being trash and Batman has been shit for almost 20 years meanwhile Wonder Woman drops multiple kinos in every decade and rarely has bad runs/storylines.
>>150159378>No one buys her comics.I bought every volume of Earth One, as well as Evolution. I've also bought at least eight omnibuses of WW ranging from the Golden age to Messner-Loebs, Jimenez, and Gail Simone. Even the New 52 stuff and the 60's mod kung fu arc.She needs more prestige/non canon stories. I've just bought the stuff I was able to research and see if it was good. I'd buy an omnibus of Joe Kelly JLA just for the Wonderbat stuff.In the neo-sex positivity/Sydney Sweeney era we're in now, they need to go all in with the kink stuff like Marston did and make her look like an Instagram fitness model, but make it dynamic and more action-y. It's time to stop letting danger hairs control this industry.
Azzarello Wonder Woman was a good run, Amazon rape aside
>>150152907>drunk Supergril fanfiction.I am ok with this
>>150161976>I bought every volume of Earth One
>>150162721The art was sexy, and I like Morrison's writing.
>>150159291There's a lot of people on /co/ who are really passionate 'fans' of superheroes without ever reading an actual fucking comic book.These people are annoyed with Wonder Woman for some retarded reason, like her being too tough/mean on the Justice League show, or her being a feminist, or her winning some imaginary 'vs battle' or something equally retarded, and decide from that that Wonder Woman is a dumb character who they hate.People get especially proud about being completely ignorant of one of the most popular and famous superheroes of all time with her.
>>150159378>No one buys her comics.Absolute Wonder Woman has semi-consistently outsold Spider-Man and her mainline book is also within the top 100 at the 24th issue. And that's not even a particularly well-liked run.Wonder Woman, basically always, is the number 1 best selling woman-led solo book month after month since fucking 1941
>>150152857>>150162840She's BUILD FOR, if you know what I mean
>>150160905>. Not that DC Silver Age anything was particularly goodHey Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane were some of the most fun comic books ever publish. Fucking ridiculous bullshit happened all the time, they are some of the most entertaining things put to print.I think, especially when compared to some of the other, more serious, comic books of the 60s and 50s, the silver age cover-bait slop are probably still the most compelling to go back to.>[Wonder Woman's] problem is that she lacks a distinct characterizationShe did have one, those original comics by William Moulton Marston have a very compelling, entertaining, and funny Wonder Woman who is definitely the stand out of her own comics.But ever since people have really waffled over what her personality should be, which really hurts her.Justice League stories usually make her the harsh, tough warrior woman to have better banter with Batman and Superman, but that is almost never embraced in her own comics.I also think Wonder Woman has an issue with a lack of a solid, consistent status quo and side cast.The Silver age really bounced around with her having different jobs, and Steve Trevor and Etta Candy occasionally being absent or dead for long stretches of time.George Perez added to this problem a lot by aging up Steve Trevor, and giving Wondie a whole new supporting cast and new jobs to boot.This is a big issue since it limits the concept of a Wonder Woman adventure to just variations of her origin story. Whereas Batman and Superman's strong status quo's naturally lead themselves to more stories.
>>150152947Harley was pushed really hard since, unlike Wonder Woman who's fans are mostly rather normal women and girls, Harley briefly attracted the attention of a whole new crowd of mentally deficient obsessives who, DC hoped, could actually be converted to life-long fans.
The trinity tier list for normies. Batman is a pure idea people get it:>Parents killed, trains and finds a symbol, becomes the Dark Knight.>Batman is cool and dark and mature.When it gets to Superman they begin to have issues:>They get desperate scientists, last hope, kindly couple, Superman.>But then he has A LOT of power and people focus on things like this.>He feels goofy to some or from a by gone era.By the time we get to Wonder Woman:>She is a logo more than idea.>Something, something female empowerment.>She feels very tied down (pun intended) by her origin.>Something, something invisible jets (corny/goofy).Now before anyone bites my head off, this is like normie tier perception and of course one good adaption series could probably set people on a good path with Wonder Woman. Every superhero has "mess" in their continuity and the best heroes have a lot of mess ignored. But a lot of the ideals underpinning her feel harder for people to get because of this perceived mess. But she is still there, with history, with logo, with name recognition, with past adaptations.
>>150152770>Why is wonder woman so popular?Wonder body
>>150154094kek funny panel
>>150158348lol perfect reaction
>>150163054clearly that failed lol, they're pivoting to Supergirl now and I prefer that
>>150154986Please tell me that's not official.
>>150152770It's so weird. I never read her comics growing up because they were for girls but right now, I've been spending the evening writing a '13th Labor' story for her. So strange..>>150152881my puberty thanks her, particularly in that wet suit
>>150154173Grant "All-Star Superman and Bat Epic" Morrison failed to write a popular out-of-continuity run for Wonder Woman because she doesn't have a good comic in her.
>>150164176>my puberty thanks her, particularly in that wet suitThe what now?
>>150152907Honestly, Zatanna is right there--she has the iconic look, is easy to cosplay, has a quirky personality, and checks the “strong woman” box.
>>150164311"A League of One" was pretty damn good.
>>150152770shes fucking sexy and her powerful domineering attitude speaks to all comic readers who got into the hobby as children, you could say its a bit of sexual indoctrination even. For a lot of people she caused our sexual awakening.
>>150153701long nosed tattoed burqa wearing bitch
>>150155751*wrestles you and ties you up*you were saying?
she's based
>>150164562
>>150152770These threads turned into a """stealth""" Wonder Woman general and you know it, OP.
>>150164891Not OP, but I don’t mind. Always nice to talk about her.
>>150153065This. Hence why every time some feminist cunt tries to write Wondy as frumpy and feminist, no one buys it. Diana is cute, honest, and kind, and ridiculously hot. Anything less gets rejected.
>>150165017Damn, she has a nice ass
>>150164562when animated DC had a soul
She's a meaningless sex icon quota for men with masculine overtones that appease superhero fan tastes. She's a copwrate symbol than a icon, just like Mickey and just is their to showcase other superior characters like Superman and Batmans importance given shes more inflexible than them.
Because she's hot
>>150152770yeah i also have a question about her. she started her own team for the title Justice League: Dark. the only reasons i'd be interested in reading it is because i love swamp-thing and man-bat. anyone know if that arc is any good or have a good opinion of it?
I've not read WW before, but as I understand it people really like her Golden Age comics, yeah? But because of how simultaneously BDSM-horny they were, people kept trying to reinvent it to be palatable for "modern" audiences.I tried a bit of the Golden Age stuff, I think the tone is fun and I like Wonder Woman's personality (and Etta Candy is hilarious).I like Fun Wonder Woman. Never liked the stone-cold WW from stuff like the DCAU.Was there a single WW comic (let's say, since the 70s maybe) that matched the tone of the Golden Age comics?
>>150164165It is. There was a fuss about it a few months ago. The entire comic is about farting.
>>150152881>>150153065Basically these two, her original comics are unreadable.
>>150167008>Basically these two, her original comics are unreadableI found them pretty enjoyable, the soft-core porn reputable is greatly exaggerated.
>>150164311Morrison failed at writing a popular out-of-continuity run for Wonder Woman because he had the bright idea to base it off of the Marston run with commentary on bondage and femdom rather than appeal to the regular public image of Wonder Woman, which largely hails from the Perez run and the Lynda Carter show and nowadays the DCEU
>>150162901/co/ not reading comics and being retarded about them is a running gag for so long it's not even funny anymore, it's just pitiful now. I don't know where else to go to just have honest discussions about comic books except a rare thread on this board that isn't immediately subsumed by ragebait and shitposts, and before anyone says Reddit it's even rarer to find a proper conversation thread there.
>>150162840did I miss something, why is Steve Trevor black?
>>150167219Social commentary comparing bondage to slavery.
>>150159206filtered, weak coward
>>150167008They're much more readable than Superman or Batman's golden age output. It fees like there's a more well formed idea as to what she and her story structure is compared to those two. To say nothing of a lot of other Golden age heroes.Now the Kanigher stuff from the late 40's through the 70's(with a brief break of O'Neil, which isn't much better), that is a slog
>>150167190>because he had the bright idea to base it off of the Marston run with commentary on bondage and femdom rather than appeal to the regular public image of Wonder Woman, which largely hails from the Perez run and the Lynda Carter show and nowadays the DCEUBasing it off the Marston run would have a lot of potential if you focus on the fun and whimsical stuff and not the overblown bondage aspect, which is greatly obsessed over. Perez is fine, but it's also kinda stuffy fanboy comics from the era. It doens't really have universal appeal and I can't imagine little girls enjoying it.
>>150167529It was a Berger-edited comic, of course it wasn't meant for little girls. She did sophisticated stories for mature adults.
>>150164432based Zee appreciator.The problem is that most comic writers arent able to write good stories heavily involving magic. I'd be down for a Zatanna ongoing from the same team that gave us the mini series this year.
>>150154986Moe’s Tavern?
>>150160905Anon, let me tell you something. Both Batman and Superman characterizations trough the Golden and the Silver age, until the Crisis were also pretty inconsistent.
>>150164002How are they 'pivoting'? Because she has a movie coming out next year?Wonder Woman also has a movie coming out sometime soon
>>150166331I think the closest it's been replicated was the 70s tv show, and then her occasional roles on the cartoon Batman: The Brave and the Bold. Albeit I haven't read every Wonder Woman comic.
>>150167190He didn't even base it off of what actually made Wonder Woman popular with the Marston run.Sure the BDSM subtext was rather overt and William Marston's Freudian-psychological lens is very noticeable, but what made her stand out was Wonder Woman's personality, and the whacky adventures she got on.A Marston-esque run should be more focused on the romance of Wondie and Steve Trevor, on Etta Candy and Diana's friendship, on fantastical adventures with an emphasis on the psychological. And especially on Wonder Woman's unique and charming personality.The BDSM thing was never narratively important to those old comics.
>>150167219Grant Morrison made him black in his 'Earth-One' story. He wanted to play up bondage, so he made a connection to the slavery of Africans in the new world.Also it may be a tip of the hat to Trevor Barnes, who was Wonder Woman's civilian love interest during her post-crises era who was black.
>>150168659True.Really Batman didn't have a consistent characterization until the 1989 film.And while Superman himself was firmly established with the 1978 film, Clark Kent, and his usual dynamic with his alter ego, wasn't fully established until the TV shows Lois & Clark and Smallville came about.Wonder Woman never got a movie until 2017, so it's still kinda in the air for her. But I imagine the fish-out-of-water aspect, and the peaceful and kind warrior thing from that Gal Gadot movie will probably stick.
>>150169124None of these people have a consistent characterization even now, all at the whims of any individual editor or writer.
>>150162921>Absolute Wonder Woman has semi-consistently outsold Spider-ManASM or Ultimate? Impressive if she's outselling either (maybe both) though... Do you have a source?
>>150162840>wonder woman with a niggerDisgusting.
>>150162964Mutts law
>>150152770Sex appeal
>>150169276This is data from months ago, the first 6 issues or so, you can look at the data by months.She would occasionally outsell both, and consistently outsold ASM until recently because layman are more interested since Paul and MJ broke up
>>150167529>Basing it off the Marston run would have a lot of potential if you focus on the fun and whimsical stuffthat's fair but for an All-Star Superman analogue to Wonder Woman I still think Perez should be the blueprint over Marston, since that's the contemporary image of Wonder Woman in mainstream>>150169016correct, hence why I don't exactly consider Earth-One a failure, but it's not the same as All-Star Superman
>>150167240>>150169064right, I get the intention but I don't like it, I didn't like Trevor Barnes either. not that I have anything against blacks, I enjoy Stewart GL, but keep Steve Trevor white
>>150152770tits and ass
>>150168979Ahh, that's a shame. What're the other runs like then, generally, that people enjoy?
>>150170918And legs
>>150165017wording this post
Why do all her love interests suck?
>>150167219theres a scene at the end of the first arc where he vouches for diana on trial by saying his people were slaves or something. It works when you read it but idk why they insist he has to be ugly as fuck.
>>150152770There’s nothing feminine about modern Wonder Woman. She represents masculine virtues and the patriarchy better than any of the male superheroes.
>>150158348>>150158755Everyone is white next to Gayle
>>150152770Boobs and thighs.
>>150172983Because none of them are lolis
>>150172983Steve Trevor is fine.Though he is rather underused. All they need to do is make him a fun character and nice, but they don't really do that for some reason.
>>150173904Like WW, the writers don't actually know what to do with him, so they default to generic soldier characterization.
>>150152770Her design anon. Pretty much it despite 60 years of publication and nothing to show for it besides her looks.
That scene with Wonder Woman and Atom in the justice league cartoon awoke the giantess fetish in me.>>150174523>>150174611They really like making cheetah job to Diana.
>>150169064It's funny because black dudes have no problems engaging in race play when it comes to an attractive white woman. Shout out Shannon Sharpe.
>>150172983>>150173904Steve is top 3 comic love interests
>>150173904>>150174664Perez wanting Superman to be her love interest fucked over Steve and set the character’s core dynamic on an aimless path.
>>150152770Nobody takes female superheroes seriously. They exist to wear skimpy suits and show off their tits and ass.
>>150175478Pre-Crisis Diana/Steve had become toxic desu. That awful idea in Wonder Woman 1984 where Wonder Woman wishes Steve back to life and he possesses some innocent guy and she has no problem with this? That's what was happening in Wonder Woman comics in 1984, only the guy he was possessing was an alternate reality Steve Trevor. Eventually their memories were merged, but that was so awful I can't blame them for deciding "No romance with Steve this time, he can have Etta."
I dunno anything about WW comics besides the Golden Age stuff, what is the Perez run like compared to that? What is the tone, what does it focus on etc?
>>150172983She makes a very good couple with Bruce
>>150176397reads like an afterschool special
>>150176625I don't know what that is.
>>150175591so? it's a reboot, you know, when you can ignore past retardation, not add to it
>>150152770I think it might have something to do with Marston's deal with DC that they could use the character with strings attached. That limited the use of Wonder Woman by DC.
>>150154094Wonder Woman should take a chill pill
>>150176699nta, but very wordy and preachy
>>150175591That's like saying they should've made MJ an old woman married to an older Flash Thompson because of the last 18 years of Spider-man comics. . Throwing the baby out with the bathwater.He made two of her biggest supporting characters boring old people meant to tip the hat to her history and be written off. Steve and Etta represent two important parts of fiction for women- the incredibly handsome, somewhat unattainable hot guy and the fun but less hot friend. In their place came characters who are ok, but not particularly memorable.
>>150173285Kek. Shit takes like this have 0 self-awareness whatsoever. What's a feminine virtue? Being loving? Quick. Someone tell Superman he's too effeminate and needs more masculine virtues!
>>150176933made up excuse
>>150177151>Someone tell Superman he's too effeminate and needs more masculine virtues!Snyder fans are on it
>>150177084to be fair Steve at least was written wellnow he's back into the fold but he is a nothingburger because they are always walking on eggshells when writing Wonder Woman
>>150176455>Someone is shittalking Steve>Look inside>It's a batshill
>>150176455>>150177262We don't hate batretards enough.
>>150152857She posted a 'jak in a frog thread.
