Be honest, /co/Do you ever feel a sense of jealousy in regards to industry animators or showrunners? Or even jealousy towards successful indie animators like vivziepop, goose, or zeurel?
>>150156093sometimes i am jelly, sometimes i am not.most of the time i'm notbut i wish i had the time to draw my ideas
>>150156093No. Those people have to work themselves to death just survive. Have you ever seen Craig McCracken's face? Those are your eyes after staring at blank paper or a computer monitor for your whole life.There are other ways to make and enjoy art without turning your body into a zombie.
>>150156185>*just to survive
I used to but then I started listening to all of their interviews and learned that they're not all multimillionaires who got to put their beloved OCs on major networks, and most of the ones that got picked up just made the most appealing & marketable thing they could imagine and were right about it.
>>150156093Sometimes, it's the kind of jealously you get when you've been at it just as long if not longer than some of these guys and you still have nothing to show for it while people younger than you manage to get to kick it with the popular cliques in record time while you're still an obscure jackass
>>150156093Absolutely. I'm stuck lifting boxes for a living while these califags get to live out their dreams I'm unreasonably angry, every fucking day, I'm in my 30s, have nothing to show for it, drawings are shit, tried animating, also shit. Indiefags piss me off even more. The amount of money the successful ones are pouring into their work makes my blood boil. I don't care about succeeding anymore, I need everyone else to fail
>>150156620Stop seething
>>150156093In 2025? Hell no
>>150156652Seething gives me purpose
>>150156093I'd rather listen to professionals(Aaron Blaise, Jessie than people online like Saberspark or Spumdonor.
>>150156620>I need everyone else to failbasado
>>150156620>while these califags get to live out their dreamsUm sweetie, animation in California has been crumbling.Everything is either being outsourced or replaced by AI.
>>150156093Not anymore
>>150156898Stfu
>>150156684Stop whining you faggot
>>150156093Maybe when I was younger, but after learning how to draw/making a few comics, not really. I'm not succesful in anyway, but I feel like seeing other people create should inspire you to create stuff yourself, which is the fun part. Plus all the autism from fans and legal stuff sounds like a pain. I know a lot of /co/tards here probably jealous though
>>150156093A bit, but then I remember I don't have that dog in me to create even a mediocre cartoon much less the ones of my childhood and move on with my life, such as it is.>>150156185Craig's always had resting basset hound face, you dink.
>>150156093No, they sacrificed so much integrity to become soulless commiefornian drones that it makes me appreciate having a modest mind
>>150156093Kind of, I just want to draw well, but now I am joining the Navy, and I will do a lot less of that, and not be able to show it off to my internet friends.
>>150156093Vivziepop. But I don't call it jealousy, more like disgust. She's not someone who deserves to become a household name with unlimited Amazon funded resources to make two seperate tv shows.
>>150156763I kinda wish saberspark did better covering obscure cartoons, instead of just advertising indie animation.
>>150156093>Do you ever feel a sense of jealousy in regards to industry animators or showrunners?Yeah, they have a skill I don't and I envy them because of that.
>>150156093Very briefly, right after graduating. I graduated college right after the pandemic: right after a mass hiring exodus that came with companies greenlighting a million animated projects and hiring a ton of people to work on them. Until......the industry collapsed. Like harder than it ever did. Layoffs. AI. Low wages. Outsourcing. Cancellations. Streaming cancellations. THREE consecutive strikes. It was like the plagues of Egypt for animators and a HUGE warning sign to STAY AWAY. I found an art-adjacent job that pays well, keeps me happy, and lets me produce my work for fun. I look at the top alumni from my class and see them working wagie jobs years after graduation. Even the alumni before me who were set for life are screwed. It's a bad time to be a professional animator in the US.
>>150156093Making an industry show requires losing your own mind and personality to fit into the standard 3 or 4 personalities of the industry and its mindset.
>>150156093Not jealousy but sometimes I wish I could be them just to change some things I don't like about their works like damn I really wish they did/didn't do X
>>150157252Why did you have to "um sweetie" him like you're doubting what's happening? Is it because you feel they're not actually suffering cause they're rich or something?
>>150156620Pour that energy into your own work then instead of screaming into the void. Throw everything you did away and start from scratch, make the most bitter and resentful and petty thing anyone has ever drawn
>>150158405Also this too. If every co-worker you come across wants to force pride flags and activist messages in every shot then you are bound to become just like them.
>>150156093I’m not envious of industry stuff. being an animator seems like an excruciating job to be honest, and I don’t think I’d be capable of doing the kind of networking required to be a showrunner without either eventually spilling my spaghetti and looking like a massive hateable retard in front of everyone, or going the other direction and suppressing myself out of fear until I become some disingenuous fake woke freak. the people I am jealous of are the genuine independents, guys like Jarred Wright and Drew Langlois who are simply able to make cool things that resonate with other people. having something beloved like TBLS to your name would be worth more than money to me, not for fame but just for the feeling of accomplishment I’m sure comes with it.I started feeling like this anon >>150156620 in regards to NSFW artists a little bit when I looked into how much the top fetish artists I knew of were pulling every month before the AI cancer started. I’m not really resentful though and I’m definitely not angry at anyone, just sad that I tried to perused normiedom instead of capitalizing on my interests and abilities.
I feel bad for them. Their careers are usually short and they don't net that much money at the end of the day. They're kicked to the curb once the studios no longer need them, like that Over the Garden Wall guy, and people forget their cartoons over time. Plus, AI will rape a lot of art careers. And sedentary jobs have a heavy price down the road.
>>150158122I've sabotaged up-and-coming artists' careers through social media out of spite. Like actually ruined their careers. What are you gonna do about it?
>>150160873You are irrelvant fag
>>150160883Nope. Cope harder.
>>150158467Have fun dying for Israel.
To those of you who think you'll get careers in this field, know this. AI will make that impossible. You entitled counts will have to get boring jobs like the rest of us.
>>150161043why can’t you spell words?
>>150158496These grapes are sour
>>150161043>But I wanted to be a foley artist 'ah 'ah 'ah
>>150160919You are coping
>>150161004It wasn't supposed to be like this! Damn the tech job field and economy!
