>season 8 episode 5>Bart After DarkWhy is the burlesque house owner depicted as morally right in every scene and every argument against is just "I AM SILLY!"Why is the episode just a vehicle for an argument the writers already decided the answer to?It's just really weird
>>150160212It's just a goofy episode, there's no deeper moral to itI also want to fuck the burlesque owner
they really dodged around the whole problem of a 10 year old working at a burlesque house
>>150160212Why should she be depicted as morally wrong at all? All the old tart did was run a private business.
>>150160212>why does a satire of moral panics satirise moral panics?
>>150160212Another repressed 4chan incel virtue signals and pearl clutches on /tv/. What porn did you jerk off to today, btw?
>>150160320>/tv/Whoops wrong board. Doesn't change what I said, though.
>>150160212The 90s were all about how people should stop giving a shit about clutching pearls and just relax and enjoy life. The modern era is the gay inversion of that.
>>150160271And how eager the owner was to show him all the boobs and cameltoes.>>150160273>Why should Monty Burns be depicted as morally wrong at all? All the old fart did was run a private business
>>150160317They really don't make moral panics like they used to.Remember when it used to be that you could have a few videos of people sucker punched on NY security cameras go viral and then the media would freak out and claim there was some kind of viral trend of people running around sucker punching random strangers in front of security cameras? Or a few college kids could have some whoopsy daisies during kink play and it would get spun into "There's a new viral game where teenagers get together and start choking each And who could forget "roaming gangs of murder clowns."Now it's like "Kids got molested on app and the only way to solve it is to destroy the entire internet."All the zaniness is goneThe 90s were something else though. Swing a tit and it's the media trying to groom the youth for the express purpose of serving Satan.You guys gotta remember this show's first big controversy was that Bart talked back to his dad and said the word "Hell."
If prostitution were legal there would be no incelsThink about it
>>150160545>>Why should Monty Burns be depicted as morally wrong at all? All the old fart did was run a private businessIt's only morally wrong to Lisa.
>>150160667They'd just become "hooker fuckers."The tricky part about incels is that it's far less about the sex than it is about the total IRL sense of isolation turning them into maladjusted misanthropes with the general notion that the value of a heterosexual male as a person being directly tied to having a woman to provide for, which gives them a target for their frustrations since it's a supposed necessity that you are worthless as a man without.
>>150160783This. People (rightfully) don't get respect for fucking prostitutes the way they do for having a normal relationship.
>>150160783>>150160868maybe name the movement something that doesn't stand for involuntary celibate
>>150160212It's the best marge episode
Because she WAS right. She was a small business owner who was employing people and providing a quality service that many people in town enjoyed and were willing to pay for. And then a bunch of killjoy shitheads tried to DESTROY HER HOME for no rational reason.
>>150160433Montey is a wizard there isn't one characterization of him sometimes he is evil torturing his employees and sometimes he is as lazy and incompetent as everyone around
>>150160317With all the moral panics we've been going through for over a decade straight, sorry, gay, this episode just sounds phoney, I've heard all these arguments before, it's just woke programming trying to tell you what to think no matter how irrelevant or nonsensical it is>>150160667Incels, aka poorly adjusted and mentally deficient males, aren't a target audience for prostitutes
>>150160212The writers are part of the "porn is good sex is good especially when it's me I want sex sex sex" left.
>>150160212anon did it occur to you when you chose to pick a fight with a species that reproduces sexually and engages in sex recreationally that maybe bitching about your minority view of sex not being obeyed by the majority wasn't going to win you any arguments?or are you super dumb and shit
>>150161022jesus christ just say what your actual issue with the episode is
A burlesque house that's properly regulated is a completely viable and safe business for everyone involved and there is literally no issue with running one in any capacity. Burlesque shows are fun and safe ways for men to enjoy an evening and for women to make fabulous money. She was 100% in the right and anyone suggesting otherwise has no real argument.
>>150160667You're not wrong. Until the colonial era and the industrial revolution, the odds of being a sexless male were very low. Men's introduction into sex would either be as a teenager or as a young adult, either from a family friend, a neighbor, or from prostitution. A man would either have to know a woman in his community who would fuck him, or go somewhere to buy it. Once that hurdle was overcome, he now had the confidence to make a living and find a woman from a poorer family to marry into, or have his parents arrange a marriage for him. And if he didn't want to get married, he could always hire a whore or fuck the town bicycle.The modern concept of obtaining sex has become incredibly fucked up due to how atomized society has become as well as individual people having too much value (while also paradoxically being powerless), on top of a power imbalance between the sexes created even further in the last hundred years. Both demographics are splintered and broken as a community. Women are being placed in post-WW2 roles shaped around men (and economically are now no different than men, barring obvious sex and personality differences) and collectively supported while men are being told "figure it out yourself, retard" and left out to dry, all while neither side is being given the necessary support and infrastructure to live happy and meaningful lives.Before things went tits up, a man could obtain sex pretty easily. Then when things went tits up, he could still do it if he put some effort into it. Now it's no longer feasible without totally emotionally/mentally checking out of what we call a "community".>if he has sex, he'll risk being labeled a sex pest, a creep, or a rapist>if he doesn't have sex, he'll be shamed for not having it>>150161101Precisely. Even as far back as ancient times, whorehouses and brothels were a common part of communities because it allowed men proper access to sex so they wouldn't be sexually frustrated and destructive.
>>150160212You need to get rid of the naive notion that anyone makes media with the intention to fairly represent to side two sides of an argument.They don't.Everyone has their own agenda, and is pushing it.I know it kinda sucks but you'll be happier once you accept and understand it OP.An actual "debate" story is super rare because the conventonal story structure is not made for a debate, it's made for a story with a clear protagonist and an antagonist.
>>150161123nice ChatGPT post
>>150161138Exactly, it's just conflict
>>150161123I always liked how Enkidu in the Epic of Gilgamesh was like "civilization sucks" until a prostitute slept with him for a whole week straight and he came out saying "CIVILIZATION FUCKING RUUUUUULES"
>>150161237Enkidu's story is quite symbolic of how humans creating civilization distinguished them from animals. As a "wild man", Enkidu's only means of obtaining sex were like that of an animal: chasing the other party, and then succeeding in sex (or not). Getting laid by a prostitute turned him human for a reason. An animal will not always be lucky when it comes to sex, but a human can have sex whenever they want (at least in those times).
I'm starting to feel like---- the point ---->Anon's headhas happened. How could this happen to my thread, on this site of all places?>>150160903>for no rational reason.Yes, that's the point I'm making.Can I make it clearer for you? Not trying to cause offence at all.>>150161047Are you okay anon?I don't know if you're offended about having sex, which is weird given the website we're on and that it's a fictional burlesque house, not a bordello. They make that a joke in the episode.I also don't know what world you live on when ours is quite against reproductive sex, heterosexual sex, and even sex in general as virginity has actually gone up dramatically in the past few now adult generations. Fertility rate is below replacement in a lot of places. Or were you talking about the episode somehow?>>150161138>They don't.It's just... it feels really weird when the Simpsons has always been "Objectification bad!" to then say "Strippers good!" and... well I try to pretend their other political episodes make fun of both sides but I guess I can't say that as marathoning episodes there's a lot more one sided stuff than golden age episodes that are just jokes.
>>150161123prostitution isn't real sex though it's just glorified masturbation
>>150160212Because the story was about the moral superiority of the townspeople, how it led to mob justice and how all of it was built on hypocrisyThere is no real argument for forcing them to close down the burlesque house.From what we could see the girls working there were not mistreated and enjoyed the workThe house was serious about security and kicking out any patrons who got too drunk and/or catcalled women on stageThey had fences and bushes so no one in the neighborhood could see inside and accidentally see a naked ladyAnd a reputation that scared off children from getting too close
>>150160212Better question is why your entire generation seems to be unable to understand a comic premise.
>>150161328do you not like boobie clubs
>>150161521>built on hypocrisyThey were never hypocritical.The god botherers and mothers shamed the horny men into joining them. Even Quimby was convinced. Skinner just wanted a child to not work there.
>>150160868>>150160888It's also just, you can give an incel a gf all you want but it's not really gonna change much because he's still gonna be a bitter misanthrope without a good friend network to balance him out. The GF will make him happy for all of a honeymoon period before he goes right back to being bitter at the world.You see it with a lot of discord e-girls where they'll have a boyfriend IRL and all the simps they can ask for yet still be complete depression cases because they don't have any actual friends. That social isolation fucks a person up mentally and morally.
>>150161389Retard
>>150161389Prostitution is still sex even if it doesn't feel nearly as good as having sex with someone you genuinely love and care about.
>>150161882I sure it's not just because they're e-girls that you can see their bad laundry immortalised on the web?Women aren't known for their stability
>>150160576QAnon ate up all the crazy oxygen on the internet
Prostitution is too romanticised despite it's dangerous and exploitative. With that being said, destroying a woman's house didn't help anyone.
>>150160212> jewish degeneracy good> Christian morals badWelcome to American media
>>150160317If it's meant to be a straw man satire it should be something like being and to choose whether you're a boy or a girl on a video game freaking all the parents out because they're worried it's going to turn the kids gay. A strip club opening up in a small town is concerning and will negatively impact the quality of life for the entire area.
>>150160667In every country where they've legalized prostituon they decided they can withold welfare and unemployment from you if you're not willing to prostitute yourself for money because its "real work." The further you stray from Christ the more obvious it becomes that it was a mistake.
>>150162518Shut up fag
>>150160903Just like your local heroin dealer
>>150161022This. They've played the same trick too many times
>>150161521They were objectively in the right
>>150162597It's a place where chicks show their tits in practiced choreography and costumes with a responsible owner and no mob ties. It's not a whore house or even a highway exit strip club, it seems like a fine establishment that isn't just hiring anyone off the street.
>>150162641Do you think we should ban porn, too? Do you think that will finally solve human sexuality once and for all?
>>150162587Mad because I'm right
>>150162661Nobody is forcing you to do anything, retard
Why do all the moralfags come out at 2am UTC on the fucking dot whenever I stay up too late? What timezone is responsible for this?
>>150162661You're just a boring hypocrite. We already dealt with tards like you in the 2000s. They were like 60 years old, though. It's nothing new, incel zoomer.
>>150162618Retard
>>150160212Sex bad! Won't you think of the children! We could be having sex with them like all of our politicians for all of time!
>>150162648>that isn't just hiring anyone off the street.
>>150162693Haha, I meant more like chicks dancing for crack
The moral was that they were virtue signaling when in reality they were patrons and enjoyed the house.Well the men anyway. But who cares what smelly twats think lol
A burlesque house isn't the same as a whorehouse. It's actually tamer than a strip club.
>>150160212I've always been more confused by the weird anachronistic nature of the episode.A burlesque house is a really odd thing to make a moral story about in the 90s.
>>150162730It's like Nixon jokes, it's what the writers grew up with.
>>150160545Yes anon, poisoning the environment is just as bad as a little T&A why do you weird puritanical freaks even come to this loli website?
>>150162730It's probably more relevant today than back then. Not houses, but tons of burlesque shows at clubs and theatres.
>>150162730A lot of the episodes around season 7/8 have some really bizarre cultural callbacks, some of which you'd think would predate the boomer writersAnd whenever a college age character is on the show, you half expect them to make a bra burning joke just from their outfit alone
It wasn't the fact Bart was working there (which was pretty classic Homer dumbfuckery) so much as Marge wanting it gone after finding out about it because "I don't like it." They already covered that in episodes like Marge vs. Itchy & Scratchy.
>>150160212How though?
>>150160247certified silver fox
>>150160317Yes, but this episode failed pathetically at that.
>>150160783Jesus fucking Christ, anon. Take a breath and think about grammar.
>>150160888>maybe name the movementYou're mentally retarded.
>>150160335Nta but I will be jerking off to Tessa James Elliott.
>>150165531And also to Marge's sisters. Idk why Homer finds them so repulsive.
>>150160212Because the Simpsons have always been Liberal Democrats, the goal of each episode is teaching the "values" of Liberalism, even if those characters teaching these are in the wrong, most people don't realize these cartoons (which most of them were made by Jews btw) have always been "woke"
>>150162587Shalom rabbi.
>>150162660Yes, porn is illegal in China and Korea and look how fast they're overtaking the US. Men are too lazy to work for pussy if they can access it 24/7 on their iphones.
>>150162538Holy fuck you are stupid and a bad writer
>>150160212The house was an open secret and once Marge found out, her moral faggotry kicked in backed by her habit of wanting to destroy anything she didn't like or approve of, damn everyone else
>>150162730Because they couldn't do a strip club for a 'family friendly' show.
>>150165569Cope
>>150165550Retard
>>150160212>For my 18th birthday my friends hired a hooker.>Full hour.>Didn't really know what to do and was in the middle a Wolfenstein campaign so she just sat on the bed and watched me play.>She seemed nice.>She told my friends I "fucked her brains in out" and kissed my cheek in their view as she left.>They all high fived me but I went back to Wolfenstein.
>>150160271That was the joke.
>>150160433>The 90s were all about how people should stop giving a shit about clutching pearls and just consume everything they could both from their parents, then their children, if they had any, and leave nothing behind, like a plague of locustsftfy.
S11E5
Oh boy, a thread about one of my favorite episodes!>It's full of pro-censorship schizos.Cool. Fun.More hag with young boy, please.
>>150161046ah yes, when I think "sex and sex appeal," I think of 90s Simpsons writers, look at these lust crazed demons
>>150165650>work (China), for no pussy>or work (US), for onlyfans pussy onlyHmm
>Simpson autist: "THIS EPISODE SUCKS BECAUSE THE PLOT AND CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT DON'T MAKE SENSE" / "The Simpsons are back! This new episode has such a good plot and character development!">normal people: "What about the jokes?">Simpson autist: "Jokes?"
>>150167235Any dude who pretends he doesn't like or is outraged by fictional /ss/ is probably an actual pedophile or a complete psycho.
>>150165998Pretty much this. The only reason the town is wrecking shit is because they got strong-armed into it by Marge. Even by then, Marge already had a reputation around town for being a major killjoy ('$pringfield', 'A Star is Burns')
>>150160545I love that episode, the punchline that Burns just twisted her vision into such a dark image is hilarious.
>>150167235>More hag with young boy, please.Old people are gross. The whole building is packed with all kinds of women and you want to see him with someone who could pass for his grandma?
>>150167089Did you ever score?
>>150169646>The whole building is packed with all kinds of women and you want to see him with someone who could pass for his grandma?Yes, I do.I didn't say the other girls couldn't be involved too.
>>150169822That was hot
>>150160212Because they were
