Bruce having been trained by the League of Assassins makes a lot of sense and it would justify Ra's obsession with him
>>150174068That was stupid and I hate it
>>150174126Why?
Non-Spider Gwen actually being an interesting and likable character.
>>150174142Because batman does not need that intimate a relationship with Raz
>>150174142Because it makes sense.
>>150174270Oh, but it's fine if we make Joker the guy who killed his parents?
>>150174142>Have an established No Kill Rule>Train under someone who runs a group that explicitly kills
>>150174068It expediates a few things admittedly, but also creates the largest paradox of why a group staunchly for assassination would effectively inform and train someone who hadn't proved unquestionably loyal beforehand, or with the handwave that Ra's thought the Wayne's resources too useful to dismiss why wouldn't he gradually condition him with setup kill or be killed situations until he became accustomed to it.Leaving it to a last second test with nothing but hearsay as the incentive to execute someone just made Ra's, a supposedly seasoned expert of many crafts with a small army of loyal followers, suddenly look woefully inept at reading and manipulating the most barefaced person there was.There's also the enigma of why they let Bruce get away with it for so long just to setup some long method of assassination instead of just killing him in his sleep before he got to Gotham, the movie wouldn't happen obviously but that's not relevant to the depiction of this elite shadow society as incompetent whenever dealing with this one guy.
>>150174068Rogue being a goth girl
>>150174300like half the people Bruce actually trained with were assassins or professional killers
>>150174126This>>150174142His training has to be his own, he has to be unaffiliated. A lone wolf. Making him part of something is reductive and small.
>>150174300more like>get tasked to kill a criminal (a killer mind you)>refuse >blow up the place killing everyone instead
>>150174068HIVE being an evil school/academy instead of some generic villain organization.Just make one of DC's 50 Queen Bees the headmistress since nobody cares about the alien Queen Bee or Bialya.
>>150174300>>Train under someone who runs a group that explicitly killsDid you read 80s/90s Batman comics
>>150174297Whataboutism isn't a defense
>>150174270why not?
>>150174068Retconning it so Bruce was trained by the monkey cult.
>>150174068The Suicide Squad's Polka-Dot Man's powers
>>150174300Tbf if you were so good that you were mogging an entire assassin order in every facet and still chose not to kill, I could see Ra's being obsessed because its like a. I cant let this guy get away withthe disrespect or b. The moment he falters in his faith and rejoin the League, we're gonna dominate the world
Organic web shooters
>>150174297No, that's actually even worse. Nobody even brought that up as a counter example.
>>150174068real talk, Ra's is a dogshit character with a worse backstory than Hawkgirl and nothing about him makes any sensehe's just the anti-preptime guy
>>150174068What I hate about Nolan movies is how everything is overly streamlined.>Batman and Bane both have to be ex-League>Zsasz can't just be a random serial killer, he has to be affiliated with the mob because all evil in Gotham either comes from the League or the mob
>>150174241I still don't understand why she was inexplicably 35 in the second ASM movie but also doing a full time job while still in highschool or whateverthere were a lot of things wrong with that movie and that was one of them
>>150175579>Yeah, yeah. One of my henchmen went to London for a week.>He came back with an accent too.>He was all, "I'm rather chuffed.">Total douche.
>>150176718>the amazing spunk hands
Superman giving absolutely zero fucks about coming across as a dictator and actively working to make the world a better place by doing shit like attacking evil world rulers to make them do what he wants would be kino.
>>150174068I thought it was canon in the arkhamverse
>>150176718
>>150174068Canonized in 2022>>150176718Canonized in 2006>>150176946Canonized in 1938You guys knew all that though, right? We read comics here?
I like the idea of Hobgoblin being the early prototype.
Rogue's backstory in TAS is much, much better than in the comic just due to how simple it is. Jesus, there could be a whole thread of all the things TAS adapted there are much better than the current state of x-men comics.
>>150176718The only way I'll accept organic webshooters is if Peter gets to support them with regular webshooters so he gets to do crazy stuff like in the cartoons and games, or if he gets stuff like extra eyes and stingers.
>>150177238>Canonized in 2006Didn't stick though
>>150177253I feel like the Hobgoblin outfit is superior to the Green Goblin, but the Green Goblin color palette is best. Smash together both, and that's the best Green Goblin outfit anyone could ever do.
>>150177328Alex Ross tried to do something like that, but sadly it didn't take off.The first Raimi movie tie-in game instantly changes Green Goblin model to Ross' GG if you equip Ross Spider-Man costume, so it's probably the only time you could see it in action.
>>150177328Hobgoblin looks his best when you can only see his red eyes through the hood. The mask itself is pretty weak
>>150174068Wolverine and Lady Deathstrike dating before he was bonded to the Adamantium, and killing her father during his escape. In the comics, her father was a WW2 soldier who failed to die in a kamikaze, was arrested by the US, made millions off a book he wrote, and tried to make an adamantium samurai army. Also Deathstrike killed him herself, and the adamantium bonding was stolen by a random nameless guy, her dad had nothing to do with Weapon X.
>>150174068Not only I agree but I also think that Batman in the comics is horrible and deserves every single bad thing that happened in his life while Nolan's Batman is actually a pretty likeable person.
>>150176718It makes sense but I just personally find it really gross
>>150177238>We read comics here?No
>>150177238>Canonized in 2022Well too late.
>>150174270so Ras just wanted her to marry some rando american he never met in a city on the other side of the planet and whose real identity he doesn't even know?
>>150174068Brainiac being Kryptonian in origin.
>>150175579You expect people who are aping BTAS to have read a single Batman comic? There are at least 20 murderers that trained him or with him. Nobody and Ghostmaker are some of the more recent additions, but it has been a thing since before Begins.
>>150176387this, it can also be twisted as to mean Ra's thinks Bruce will never be a fully worthy fighter in his eyes because he lacks that killer instinct, hence why he only ever calls him Detective
>>150174241Having just read some of the original ASM issues, I'm still at a loss why Liz Allen was just rushed off the stage only to be replaced with another blonde popular girl with the same dynamic with Peter. Just so they could spend a few issues rerunning Peter and Liz's early relationship?It's not surprising they just make her another highschool classmate of his in other adaptation.
>>150176844I blame 610. Everything was super soldier. Like how everything in Amazing Spider-Man 2 later tried to have everything be Oscorp
>>150176342what were his powers otherwise?
>>150175557>HIVE being an evil school/academy instead of some generic villain organization.Especially since Brother Blood's cult kind of overlaps with that idea anyway.
>>150177328I appreciate that NWH Gobby had the hooded look rather than the typical comic mask, it really works in his favor
>>150174068Pretty sure most newer Batman stuff treat this as canon. It is in the Arkhamverse.
>>150178279it's a similar gimmick but I doubt Nolan even knew Ultimate Marvel enough to be inspired by them. I don't think "make it so everything is tied to each other somehow" as a concept was invented by Bendis and Millar or anything
>>150177373WORD!
>>150178318I just think its a retcon that makes sense. Who the hell else would teach Batman how to be one of the world's greatest fighters? He could travel the world and learn how to do shit and then still get his ass pushed in by a thug who got lucky with a pipe.Trained assassins make more sense because I imagine they'd know more of what to look for when fighting people. Self defense trainers will teach you how to survive, but assassins will teach you how to kill. I imagine knowing what to look for to kill a person has saved batman's life before even if he doesn't kill anyone.
