Forgive the clickbaity title (and ***SPOILER ALERT***), but if you look at the movie and compare it against social trends over the last few years, Diane Foxington starts the movie as an idealized modern career woman, who has made it to the top, and feels like she has to set aside her longing for a relationship because it could hurt her career. Mr. Wolf his struggling to get any kind of career going, but he clearly loves Diane despite having basically nothing to his name. Ultimately, the movie pushes the idea that even though Mr. Wolf is at a major disadvantage compared to Diane, and the cost of being with him is that Diane has to give up her job and start over to be with Wolf, Mr. Wolf is ultimately going to make her happier than she was when she had her career.That's actually a very positive counterprogramming message to send out to all the girls who are being exposed to careerist propaganda on tiktok. Perpetually single women working pointless "tech" jobs with free buffets, booze and playrooms are constantly being fed to young girls as if it's something they can achieve if they join the rat race and deprioritize finding a husband and having children. Also, the stereotypically toxic meta of Tinder and other dating apps: "if he's less than 6 feet tall and makes less than 6 figures he ain't worth your time." Mr. Wolf may be tall and handsome but rich he is not.
Wolf and Diane's cute little hybrid babies.
>>150174861Folf pups would be borderline too adorable for this world.
>>150174756Big if true. Also I want to pound Wolf's butt.
>BROOOOOOOO! GIVE UP YOUR COZY DREAM JOB THAT PAYS YOU TONS FOR A USED UP PHALLUS/ HOLE!!!!!!1!1!>TRUST ME! IT'LL BE WORTH IT! IT'S NOT LIKE HE/ SHE WILL BE FUCKING SOMONE ELSE BEHIND YOUR BACK!!!>LIVE A SWEET SHORT LIFE THAT SOONER OR LATER WILL TURN MISERABLE DUE TO THE FACT YOUR SPOUSE IS A BITTER FAGGOT WHO RUINS YOUR DAY WHENEVER THEY SEE YOU!>IT'S TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!
>>150175344She did not give it up she was forced out and would be arrested if not faked dead
>>150175371Soooo...Wolf has ample blackmail, right?
>>150175344If everyone was this cynical about pair bonding humanity would be extinct.
>>150175344Yeah. Why would you want an actually stable life when you can have an infantilized adult daycare job instead?
Well damn I guess discussion finally petered out.
>>150176756Sad. Then again I guess this is the doom of every movie these days unless it's high profile Disney slop.
>>150177444That's the guy Mr. Wolf posts on his dating profile.
That's an interesting assessment of the movie's messaging. But you can actually take it further. The movie critiques the relationship between career focused women and why companies/governments are gasong them up. Professor Marmalade represents the false face of "friendly packaging". The socially conscious brand marketing that corporations and governments have been presenting to the public, in order to hide their sinister or greedy motives. As the audience learned in the first movie, Marmalade is the true villian and the real predatory force of the world. Marmalade uses the Bad Girls as pawns for his ultimate goals. Similar to how socially conscious marketing uses women's empowerment for corporations and governments to push forward their agenda to the public while providing them with cover or a shield. He act as a guide, giving the Bad Girls a map to achieve their career goals. But in this process of empowering women he has a great plan which will only help himself. Marmalade's plan gives him revenge, plausible deniability, and a distraction for a clean get away. For their part in his plan the Bad Girls and Diane are left holding the bag, having to deal with the fallout of Marmalade's and Diane's crimes.
>>150175638I can fix her.
>>150175638Mommy.
I wish this scene was in the movie.https://x.com/chibetto64/status/1957961418072027271
>>150175344Cash is useful, so why not make some dough to save up for your next project (starting a family for example). You don't have to pick one over the other
>>150176101Wait, there's guns in this movie?
>>150178442That was a dart gun. However, Diane did have a pistol on her wall of gear.
>>150176756Shame
It's too bad that we didn't get a scene with jailbait Kitty.
>>150175787It's funny that you disingenuously devalue the profession that they work hard for because you're upset that they aren't your wife.
Artbook finally arrived. Will post moar if there is still a thread up when I go through it on the weekend. It's a shame that they made Doom look worse for the actual film.
>>150178974I got my copy today, too. This thing's an absolute treasure chest and I'm gonna be studying it like I'm in school.
>>150175402YesBut they cannot do it without losing their new role after being faked deathed out of existing which would probably put them in prison too
>>150178701Apex fallacy. "Corporate" female workers are doing unimportant tasks the vast majority of the time.If you can survive being exposed to it, the "day in the life of a [____] employee" videos reveal just how little they do.
>>150178622Muscle Mommy.
>>150179285>after being faked deathed out of existing which would probably put them in prison tooI mean, they're working for the government so I'm pretty sure they have immunity.
>>150179380They spend the whole day eating, drinking coffee and wine, playing foosball, napping, and once in a while they'll go to a meeting or send a few emails. It's basically daycare for adult women to make sure they aren't out getting married and having kids.
Movies like this genuinely scare me. My people are *this close* to locking in the world we've been building. I will not see that hard work ruined.
>>150174756Isn't that what happens in most romcom?
GOD I JUST WANNA CUDDLE WITH KITTY
>>150179432Depends. It's a very common theme with Hallmark Channel movies. They often go back and forth, sometimes it's the big city hotshot guy who leaves the city behind after falling for the small town girl, and sometimes it's the stuck up workaholic woman who meets the handsome cowboy and learns to love the quiet life. Once in a blue moon they'll have something with a bit more complex characters and tensions that comes close to feeling like a real movie.
>>150179528She probably doesn't want it but needs it.
>>150174861>>150174994The Bad Guys Christmas Special that I wanted.
>>150179647Someone post the image of (you) scratching her neck.
>>150174861Based
>>150174756That hug looks nice and warm~
>>150175344Nothing in life is ever fucking perfect and your post proves that, that's why you should kill yourself if that's what you're looking for.
They're so cute
Um okay but how will this change the fact Diane is a mary sue, who's physically stronger than her mans
>>150180533
>>150184221Cute!
Watched it yesterday, pretty good sequel, Kitty was a great antagonist not to mention hot, of course and it was pretty cute to see Wolf and Diane finally getting together, oddly enough though, them finally burying the hatchet with Chief Misty was my personal highlight of the movie, can't even properly explain why honestly, she's cute when she's actually amicable I suppose.
>>150183836It's balanced out by how suave and how much of a quick thinker Wolf is
>>150184609That's COMMISSIONER MISTY to YOU!
>>150183718Maximum cuteness.
>>150183836>>150185027Also remember, Diane actually loses in Bad Guys 2.
>>150185787wish I were that moped seat...
>>150183836She is a better fighter but is not the planner and thinker on level of Wolf, and she is actually under him in ranking in the Bad Guys group when she joinsCannot be a good mary sue if she reports under Wolf
>>150187531Get that outta here flaggot.
>>150187531Stay in here fag
>>150188519We don't reply to ourselves here
Nice overthinking, have a bump.Just kidding, I saged.
That's a lotta words. Too bad I'm not readin em.
anyone got a mega for the first movie? never did get around to watching it
>>150189112I saved it to my cloud storage. If the link goes down I'll post another one.
>>150189099oh nice, thanks man
A certain someone got all of his posts deleted.
>>150189254He deletes them himself.
>>150174756Message of TBG2: Sabotage your gf's career so she'll marry you.
>>150183836How? Wolf wins all his fights, unless you think his goal is to physically beat Kitty. His goal was to steal something back.
>>150175638I keep staring at the holes on her shirt.
>>150188933Oh yeah, watch this.
Diane giving a thighjob.
>>150189560kinda based ngl
>>150189560>TMYR The Bad Guys were intentionally jobbing at burning the Laptop
>>150174756>tiktokBan that shit.
>>150174861>>150174756The real message of this movie will be that if you are a wolf, fox women are easy no matter how much of a low life you are
>>150191424Kitty giving a pawjob.
>>150192610
>>150192574I mean, it's a movie. Of course the romantic leads have to both be very attractive, because movies are way too short for people to develop a deep emotional attachment to the main characters so they use a universal short cut which is to make them hot and look like they belong together.
>>150193810>look like they belong together.Ah I see what you did there you sly Wolf
>>150185787very cool outfits
>>150174756>That's actually a very positive counterprogramming message to send out to all the girls who are being exposed to careerist propaganda on tiktok.More like very clever. Plus, I'd you watched the movie to the end, Mr. Wolf and his friends had already gotten government jobs to make big money.So nothing changes in the end. Class is still a thing.
>>150195834Their needs are being met but there's not really any implication that they're making big money. It's a job that makes use of their skills though while being good guys, and that's ultimately the resolution they needed to end the movie on. I'm sure there will be new drama for them in the next movie though.
>>150183836A Mary Sue is the God of their work's universe. Everything goes their way, they are right about everything, and everyone loves them, and those that don't are treated as in the wrong. No one can do anything without them. Villians are barely a threat.Being strong, even overpowered doesn't make you a Mary Sue.How does Diane match that besides just being a good fighter and somewhat competent?She lost to Kitty. She got bamboozles by Marmalade. She got her life ruined. This isn't a Mary Sue. That just seems like a hang up against women doing stuff in a show.If you want to see an actual Mary Sue, go and watch Solo Leveling.
>>150174756>giving up on your dreams>positive messageDo maleoids really?
>>150196592Careerism is not a dream and more and more women are saying they are unhappy being locked into a career path, because they though a good career would let them marry upward but it doesn't work that way and now they are stuck husbandless and childless with a stupid job that only exists to keep them busy.
>>150196657>Careerism is not a dreamSays who
>>150196671Says all the unhappy women who chose careerism. There are tons of videos and articles about this phenomena, of women realizing too late that their career has locked them out of getting married and having kids.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzTtFEB3xA0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sigfUu0RS90There is a way out though and it's called lowering your expectations.
>>150196671> who would be retarded enough to pretend women is a science and they mastered it while posting in a cartoon and furfag threadIncels, faggots and manchildren. It's always incels, faggots and manchildren.
>>150174861Despite the departure from the books, it probably won't happen since it never happened in the books. They seem to be really reluctant to add characters that didn't exist in the original stuff in some form or another.
>>150197029Could always end the third movie with Diane saying to Wolf "I have great news" and put his hand on on her tummy, with his dumbfounded reaction. Don't need to have kids in the movie, you don't even need to show Diane getting pregnant, just hint that kids are on the way and that's how you end the series without actually introducing them as characters.
>>150197029>>150197082You know hat would be a great to end the trilogy? Diane's death like in the books.
>>150197029>They seem to be really reluctant to add characters that didn't exist in the original stuff in some form or another.But ruining character designs is fine
They're morons for doing a Bad Guys TV show and setting it in the past, where there is no Diane. Furfags are only a small portion of the people that like the Bad Guys franchise. The rest is all straight guys that like the idea of a humanoid Fox with a female athlete's body. And then you have the population smaller than the gay furry fanbase: you have the weirdos that want to do creepy things to a tarantula. Without Diane or some attractive anthro girl, that show is going to tank like all the specials without Diane did.
>>150192610Hot
>>150184221Must marry
>>150197150That was an improvement. We didn't need a scrawny, afroed 1980's blaxploitation design.
>>150198689>hating pantheresses>hating afros Speak for yourself fag, we didn't need a roided tranny that we got either.
>>150198689I don't think the design would have translated 1:1 as is, but they could've toned it down some while keeping the core intact. They pretty much changed her design entirely. >>150178673 looks closer to what I'd expect a "modern" version of that design to look.
>>150175344I'm more upset that it continues to push the lie that any decent women will love a man who doesn't have anything.
>>150199258>any decent women will love a man who doesn't have anything.Well, they will. The problem is there's extremely precious few decent women that currently exist.
>>150174756i disagree because she never made the choiceit got forced on her, and it's hard to say if she would've made that choice if her secret wasn't revealedshe lacks any sort of character arc whatsoever. she doesn't learn, grow or change her mind. she gets stripped of her position. i like the bad guys, i even like Diane, but she's writted awfully and one of the biggest mary sue's i've seen in animated media for a long time. she litererally does nothing wrong
>>150174756There's honestly so many Hallmark movies with this exact plot, where a woman gives up being a model career woman and settles down with a man she falls in love with over the course of the movie. Usually the guy lives in a small, quiet town where everyone knows each other, and the woman gets stranded there one way or another, and near the end of the movie the woman had to choose between her career or her relationship with the man, ultimately choosing the guy over some big promotion or something.
>>150199304Everyone always has a choice.
>>150199504yeah, and hers was to not get with Wolf because of her senior position. Literally nothing happened in the movie to change her view. She just lost that position, outside of her control. If she'd had even the slightest of character development, it'd work better. But it doesn't happen.
>>150197142Diane Foxignton is not Agent Ellen Fox. Her character was inspired by Agent Fox she can hardly be considered the same character.
Diane is cute.
>>150200994She is.
>>150198689They still cast a black woman to voice her.So it was still on brand.Movie design was way more intimidating looking, which worked since she was the main villain.
>>150202183It's still weird to basically>draw a man>call it a woman
>>150202183i know it's a really tumblr thing to say but she was really black coded. she didn't need the afro to get that across.
>tell Kitty she has a fat voiceHer response?
>>150174756The real message of the bad guys 2: fox pussy.
>>150198689I know its usually retarded to say this, but Kitty is absolutely "black coded"
>>150202194Thats most black women
>>150202183>>150202568Funny thing is, Kitty is black coded, and Diane is white coded, but both of their voice actresses are black.>>150202194Kitty has an extreme hourglass shape and a curvy butt. The idealized male form is V shaped because men have a narrow pelvis, and women have an hourglass shape with a high waist because their pelvis is wider so they can have children. Kitty's femininity is also conveyed heavily with how she's animated, lioe how she moves her hips when she walks. She expresses her femininity in less conventional ways than Diane but it's still there.
>>150202644Nice excuse
>>150202644They look masculine in different ways, I don't see a lot of black women with buff male torsos.
Schizo bros... How are we feeling now that the movie made 178M dollars
>>150203317Half of that money won't return to Dreamworks. They just broke even.
>>150203317You don't understand they need to make fitty billy to break even, no not even break even just to cover advertising costs!
>>150203367>>150203410The first movie grossed around 220M and had the same budget. Let's say the movie cost 160M to make including marketing costs, and half of the revenue is split theatres and the studio they would have made back 110MSo they would make back 89M from the second film, which in the end doesn't matter as most will probably stream the movie anyways
>>150204079wifei want her buff genes to overwrite mine in our children
>>150204079I, too, love Tai Lung.
>>150204098True, panthera naturally have built in big muscle they literally have to do nothing to work for it other than eat meat and sleep all day, and they are still jacked
>>150175415Who gives a fuck
>>150204546You do since you gave enough of a fuck to post.
>>150174756Is the sequel better than the first?
>>150205870i think i liked the plot better in the first but the animation is such an upgrade that it's worth it
>>150204079WIFEI want to snuggle with her on a cool autumn day. She looks warm.
>>150204546Normies, and 99% of humanity. At least before the mind virus of marxism took over
>>150204079Liking muscular women is gay, you are attracted to a male feature.
>>150207212There's nothing wrong with liking a woman capable of self defense. Honestly, it's less believable that a chick with barbie like body proportions can even be capable of an effective fighter than a woman with a Lioness build, but in the end the strongest male beats the strongest woman anyways, majority of the time
>>150197178You are right but for the wrong reasons.Diane is a core character regardless of sex appeal, and not having her as part of the group she is in now is taking out who turned out to be one of the most liked and promotable characters. Secret agent adventures with her like this film set up make a better show premise then just typical flashback show that you know is no stakes and redundant anyway. The specials flop because they are shit quality, not because the fur bait character is not in. But she should be in as she is a main characterAlso furfags are anyone horny for furries including her, not just gays.
>>150205870Yes. More action and deeper emotional stakes while doubling down on what made the first one good. It's still got some childish stuff like the Piranha fart humor but it hooked me even more than the first one.
>>150207311I'm expecting the TV show to be baby food, just like the specials. Cheap animation, basically nothing to keep the adults entertained, and low stakes where nothing matters, which is basically the opposite of the movies which had amazing animation, high stakes and plenty of stuff to keep the adults entertained.
>>150174756>iane Foxington starts the movie as an idealized modern career woman, who has made it to the top, and feels like she has to set aside her longing for a relationship because it could hurt her careerMisread this but it’s kinda weird that Diane would help wolf in the first film only to leave him in the dust. Feels antagonistic to me.
>>150207739It's the American way. Gotta pick yourself up by your boot straps
>>150207739>only to leave him in the dust.She didnt. They continue their friendship, they hang out all the time. She just doesnt give them a handout job.
>>150207739She didn't abandon him, she's helping him as much as she can and still has close friendships with him and his gang, and as shown in the movie she's training Wolf to be better at fighting. They're like family to her, but as governor she can't necessarily just give them jobs, but she's still trying to help as much as she can.
You think Kitty can crush coal into diamonds with her butt?
>>150198712Always love how muscle on girls make people say stupid shit like this. Bravo.
>>150208542>no argument
>sir, do we really need to give the crow lady fuck me eyes?>yes, now stop asking
>>150208565I like her sunglasses.
>>150208565>>150208605I like her feet
>>150208555Meant for >>150198712
>>150208737Meant >>150208542 sorry
>>150208762>>150198712Huh, so you mean you are no longer even taking this serious? I guess you actually love Kitty's final design and were just kidding. In that case, I accept your concession.
I need a buff Diane
>>150208565Doom is cute, Snake's infatuation is justified.
>>150202523Fox pussy is worth saving the world for.
>>150208542You can make them muscular without making them musculine