Enter the They/Them.
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>>150176057Shit quality?
>>150176057>>150176072Taken from a youtube leak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtiBD5uJL3I&t=137
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>>150176103>REMEMBER CHAOS CONTROL?>REMEMBER WHEN SHADOW STOLE CHAOS EMERALDS?I want to die.
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>>150176135>don't bring Nack back into continuity>make a magic thief OC insteadBring back the Archie continuity right now. I know Potto can do it, he just won't because he's stupid.
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>>150176157>Sonic gets the bad guy>Shadow ruins it by meddlingThis is so fucking awful.
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>>150176179IDW Shadow is canonically retarded
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>>150176156Fang got executed before Adventure 1
>>150176167STOP! WRITING! SHADOW!STOP! WRITING! SHADOW!STOP! WRITING! SHADOW!I WANT MY ARCHIE BACK I WANT IT BACK RIGHT NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>150176138Good, die. You're overreacting like a fukken faggot.
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>>150176184WHY WOULD YOU EVEN DO THAT ROUGE
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>>150176156why are you still here
>>150176214>I WANT MY ARCHIE BACKBut I'm enjoying having Actual Shadow instead of Archie Shadow or post-Heroes Shadow
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>>150176234I don't know. I just want to be despite knowing I have to go to bed for work in the morning.
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>>150176219https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConflictBall
>>150176156Fang’s relevance already got assfucked by Rouge and the Babylon Rogues if we’re being honest here. They’re treasure hunters to boot.
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>>150176265>wanting the thief to get awayThis comic is pain.
>>150176157Cute monke and Conductor with his wife.
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>>150176284I want that Wii U broken into a billion pieces and never reassembled.
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>>150176269>directly linking TV TropesExplains a lot about the inanity of IDW-haters
>>150176319I found it easier than saying "this is so forced"
>>150176316Last page.
>>150176333Why even bother with this you could've just ended the comic at the previous page
>>150176316So Lunar is a schizo? I had the feeling.
>>150176135>Another mammalYawwwwwwwn
>>150176350In fairness, Eggman's been kinda absent as an antagonist in IDW, despite being the only consistent one.
>>150176226She thinks Tails is a twat I guess
>>150176316>introduce OC>don't establish a clear personality>all we know is the artist saying they're trans on Twitter
>>150176226Because she wants the emerald. Have you been reading the comic?
>>150176369What is there a "minimum Eggman threshold" "mandate" now?I say "mandate" because Potto is a pathological liar who never has to be burdened by any requirements from Sega, he just makes them up to excuse his terrible writing. KILL HIM! FUCKING KILL HIM!!!!!!!
>>150176316>Character is they them because they're crazy.Oh boy.
>>150176399Of course not, it's just that "Eggman attacking" is used surprisingly little as a device. Hell, his most major role in the past 10 or so issues was letting Sonic play Kamen Rider then kidnapping a mob boss who's already lost everything.Also technically this is written by Evan Stanley. The woman.
>>150176145BOOBA
I believe that the French Revolution proved that the way to attain victory was to execute all officers who lost a battle.The same principle should be applied to all media. Murder anyone who makes a bad comic or videogame.
>>150176436>Also technically this is written by Evan Stanley.A distinction without a difference.
It's downright criminal how boring and predictable these comics are. How any kid who's a Sonic fan would find these stories remotely interesting is beyond my comprehension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md8nInMGhFY
>>150176476Why would a kid buy a comic book?>captcha:J020
Somehow this is all Tamers12345's fault
@150176517I should probably wordfilter you.
>>150176517its only a coincidence he made a transsexual schizo clown oc and now stanley made a transsexual schizo clown oc
>>150176316>create a trans OC>design them to be a royal clown with a personality disorderAmazing how Stanley thinks virtue signalling is still going to work here. With a Sonic character, no less.
>>150176418Any thing to back that up?
>>150176631It's entirely possible that the entire basis of the character actually was that Jehtt video. Lunar even steals a Chaos Emerald in this issue.
>>150176316>>150176364>>150176418>>150176631A thought occurs. What if this isn't a split personality, but rather brainwashing? The FrankenStarline theory has been something everyone's been talking about since seeing that Chaos Emerald coffin last issue.
TLDR, can someone sum this up, because I'm just going to assume it's crap as usual.
>>150176712Tranny clown steals Chaos Emerald, Shadow is Vegeta, Rouge loses to Tails because reasons.
>>150176712New OC steals a chaos emerald. Shadow is once again written like garbage. See >>150176484
>>150176135Okay, I'm cool with this guy being part of the vampire arc.
>>150176728The most interesting part of that was Rouge losing to Tails.
>>150176333Not even bothering with a "rate it" this time huh.Can't blame you.
>>150176712Sonic & Tails go to fancy party to lure out someone who's been stealing Chaos Emeralds.Rouge & Shadow are there too, since she was one of the robbed.Thief crashes the party and makes off with the displayed Emerald.Rouge sabotages Sonic & Tails since she wants the emerald for herself, and Shadow doesn't care for any interrogating until the emerald's secured. Fight/Chase ensues.Sonic seemingly allows the thief to get away after stalling Shadow. Turns out he was never trying to catch the thief, but plant a tracking device to find the hideout.They find said thief later that night - except the thief is confused and doesn't seem to know what's going on and gives the emerald up without a fight.Cliffhanger of Eggman about to attack the town.
>>150176316>>150176703We already know it's going to be a vampire story coming up, and they do have hypnotism.
>>150176792I'm on board with this ONLY if there are vampire BATS and Rouge is given hypnotism powers.
>>150176484I'm surprised you haven't posted this on /vpol/ to rile them up.
>>150176791So I was right, crap as usual.What's even the point?
>>150176770I wish OPs would stop saying "rate it". It's too engagement baity for me.
>>150176806This IS /vpol/. Has been since /pol/ Harbor.
>>150176770I'm not the usual guy. I just did it myself.
>>150176316I still cant believe that IDW fans really thought that This OC would have the same personality as Jevil from deltarune.
>>150176236But Shadow wasn't a dick to Sonic by the end of SA2.
>>150176843Being an IDW fan in the first place exhibits a fatal lack of common sense and good taste.
>>150176843What personality? Everyone turned on Jevil once Spamton came around and people realized there was nothing to Jevil except catchphrases.
>>150176845Yeah because he was dead
>>150176870He called Sonic the Ultimate Lifeform
>>150176747Delusional pedo
>>150176833We're on /co/
>>150176896I'm aware.Have you not seen how many threads there are here that are bitching about Alex Hirsch being a leftist or the lack of white male protagonists in modern cartoons?
>>150176554>actually watching his pony shitI seriously hope you don’t do this.
>>150176316Consider also the possibility that this is some random bystander that Lunar knocked out and dressed up.
>>150176943it gets lots of views and makes him lots of money so it must be good
>>150176804>Rouge has actually had hypnotic eyes this whole time>She's never been able to use them because no one looks her in the eye
>>150176138Come on, that’s a natural call-back and basic continuity. You’re just bitching for the sake of bitching now.
>>150176970I don't want ANY callbacks. I want the continuity nods to be for Archie.
>>150176804>>150176969thats too funny of a joke for idw to think of it
>>1501769244chan has always been a right-wing website. Don’t like it go somewhere else.
>>150177001Reddit doesn't tolerate death threats. If I said "chop off the heads of everyone who writes Sonic" there, I'd be banned.
>>150176845And Knuckles alternates on whether he's a dick/rival to Sonic regardless of the era or the end of the previous game. What of it.
>>150176950I don't feel IDW's capable of handling a Roderick Kingsley/Hobgoblin setup very well.
>>150176950>Consider also the possibility that this is some random bystander that Lunar knocked out and dressed up.Well she ruined the Surge and kit arc so i highly doubt that she will be able to do this and not fuck this arc up entirely.
>>150177137>implying the hobgoblin mystery wasn’t a total fucking mess in itself
>>150177137Marvel certainly wasn't
>>150177001No it hasn't been election tourist
>>150177092That this is not SA2 Shadow at all, and you'd be delusional to think so
>>150177228You're the tourist. Old 4chan was constantly calling each other faggot and nigger or creating swastikas in Habbo Hotel.
>>150177092The last game Knuckles was a rival in was Adventure. The fuck are you talking about?
>>150177233I get it: this is /co/, so sometimes video games are gonna be outside of the wheelhouse of comics-only anons like yourself, but you really shouldn't be so confident when you're so clearly ignorant and haven't actually engaged with the source material.
>>150177326This characterisation literally is not Shadow from SA2 at all. The moment Shadow actually remembers what Maria said he stops being a dick and is a pretty helpful guy who trusts other people. You are wrong and stupid and gay
Meh.
>>150176822Engagement bait. Big idea, big execution, Sonic shows up, big explosions, "I hate that Hedgehog" rinse and repeat.
>new character is a total failure who only manages to get as far as he does because of Shadow holding the retard ball>then the twist is that Tails and Sonic completely outplayed him from the start and he was never going to get away Why are all the IDW original characters like this? It's not even just the villains. Tangle and Whisper needed Silver's help to kill Mimic. Rough, Tumble, Surge, and Kit are all ineffectual Team Rocket-like jobbers. Lanolin has done nothing but simp for Mimic. Jewel and Clutch are boring powerless normies. Starline had the best showing and even he was a pretentious pseudo intellectual who gets completely demolished the second he tries to surpass Eggman. Why would anyone care about these new characters when the story is constantly putting them down? Do the writers have a humiliation fetish?
>>150176316>If it's a trap, it's a weird one.>trapNobody uses that terminology for crossdressing twinks anymore, Tails.
>>150176792>We already know it's going to be a vampire story coming upWe do?
>>150177307Yeah so did every liberal back then. We were proud atheists
Do you guys like anything about this comic?
>>150176145>Shadow & Rouge are competing with Sonic for an emeraldGood.>>150176157>Sonic takes up the challengeVery good.>>150176184kek, love it>>15017633310/10 issue, I was genuinely in the belief it'd be another girly issue with it being PINK PINK PINK and at a dressup ball but I'm glad the characters are acting like they're supposed to and having fun with almost every page being meaningful and well drawn.I'd deduct points for the secret plan we're only told about after we're confused why Sonic wanted him to get away but we immediately follow up on it with two conclusive pages, so who cares.
The comics should not have been canon holy shit
>>150177594It's the OC Conundrum.They either make them so effective everyone calls them a Mary-Sue OC, or make them painfully lame just so they can shift blame onto Sega, with some mandate they can pull out of their ass. No middle ground.And considering they live for Twitter/Tumblr praise, the latter is the best option.
>>150177663Uh..... Surge's design is pretty good I guess. That's about it really...
>>150177663It's hard proof that Sega and gamefags don't know what makes for a good comic and should shut the hell up and leave us alone.
>>150177702Game purists rightfully despise IDW.
>>150176792>>150176734What's this about vampires?Is it true, confirmed by the creatives? Or just random speculation that went out of control on social media?
>>150177717Not when it started seven years ago. They thought the comics being "canon compliant" was a good thing. As fucking if the Sonic games ever had a coherent chronology in the first place.
>>150177723There was a coffin with a bunch of chaos emeralds in it in one page. I doubt it's going to lead to anything though, I have zero faith in the writers after all the other botched storylines.
>>150176269>unironically linking tvtropes>the page starts by namedropping the """Lancer""" role>article is so busy trying to jam as many references to other tvtropes articles as possible it forgets it's explaining a tropeWas that website ever good?Who even "coined" the conflict ball? You need to explain so much to get the logic across... oh uh it's a uh... conflict happens... and characters uh... are invested because... well imagine a ball... and uh... the author has it... and threw it to the uh... character... and now he/she's acting really silly... um... so when multiple characters are acting silly... that's called uh... apple of discord... but also idiot ball... which is like conflict ball but for idiots... and uh... what if we just called the literary trope a "Race for the macguffin", how about you get us the tvtropes page for that one because this is just characters with competing interests, anon, it's normal writing and not shitty writing.
>>150177753>There was a coffin with a bunch of chaos emeralds in it in one pageThat is the reason? I remember the page, but vampires never crossed my mind.Even if is indeed a magical/mythical thingy, there are other options, even mummies could be a possibility.
>>150177765>Was that website ever good?I would argue that yes, it was.However, the same that happened with Wikipedia eventually happened to it.
>>150176316Im sure starline is gonna be the main antagonist in the end with his Frankenstein design.
>Every post about shadow jobbing>when rouge was the one defeated by tails.I don't get you guys sometimes.
>>150177745Having a more on-brand comic isn't inherently a bad thing. Personally, I loved Archie's batshit insanity, but it wasn't for everyone especially when you have to sift through one hundred issues of crap to appreciate the good stories. Ian just royally fucked up the execution. Everyone is out of character and nothing ever happens. It's too deviant for purists and too corporate for comic fans. It appeals to no one but the most hardcore fanboys.
>>150177840>It appeals to no one but the most hardcore fanboys of the writers/artists.*fify
>>150177828Rouge is less out of character. Shadow went full retard.
>>150177745outside of shit like Shadow in Sonic Battle and whatever Silver's deal is post 06, the timeline of the main games is pretty damn straightforward.People turned on idw when it turn out they're really just trying to be archie again without having any archie in it.
>>150176145"get em" is pluralsurely he meant "get him", right?
>>150177900>Shadow in Sonic BattleNTA, but it was confirmed (or you could say "officialized", depending on your previous stand) that timeline-wise, Sonic Battle happens after Shadow the Game, so even that plothole was finally filled.
>>150177914Politically correct language is my guess, you "can't" assume the character's gender.
>>150176302why HEwhat HISif HEyou don't speak like this for a singular person, even if you don't know what their "gender" is you just assume male
>>150176201Oh come on that's not f>>150176202Okay, you are correct. Retardo maximus. Rouge is also being retarded.
>>150177971Sonic is a woke transman, chud. he doesn't assume other people's genders.
>>150176333So is sequin the same as spaghettionia? Doesn't Shantae live in sequinland.
>>150177914em can also be HIM. Good fuck have any of you ever actually had a conversation outside the internet?
>>150176484Lunar is not trans, it is a cybernetic memetic AI entity that possesses people through those masks.It is a big joke on the transformation community. Their affirmation character is actually a chat bot tied to a fashion accessory.>>150176517Lunar reminds me of niroas a bit.
>>150178035No it's not you brainlet. Em is a shortening of thEM. Get IM is a shortening of get hIM.Don't make your smoothbrain our problem
>>150177745Not to mention we are never gonna move past being in forces aftermath. We will never get to see sage mock her shitty retarded half sister
>>150178060Sage is appearing in the next few issues.
>>150178069not him, but i assume the comic will still be in empty forces oc mode, just with Sage slotted in now
>>150178069Wait really?
>>150177890>Shadow went full retard.Yeah, IDW Shadow does that a lot.
>>150176712The emeralds have been disappearing. Sonic and Tails attend a party where the last known emerald will be displayed. Rouge and Shadow also attend but they are interested for less moral reasons and Shadow is being particularly psychotic today.Think ferret jester steals the emerald. Rouge and Shadow decide to be assholes and attack Sonic and Tails because Rouge wants the shiny and Shadow wants to fucking murder someone. This creates an opening for the twink to escape but Sonic put a tracker on him. After tracking them down they discover the twink has no recollection of stealing the emerald and is handing it over.Meanwhile! Eggman is marching an army of egg bots to the city to fuck shit up and take the emeralds.
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No Sonic comic series will ever top Archie's. That is a cold hard fact. Only troons, and faggots disagree.
Archie is the worst comic series Sonic ever produced. This is a cold hard fact. Only cucks, and manbabies disagree.
>>150178149That's because Sonic comics as a rule are not good.
>>150178079They had a whole marketing campaign about it.https://x.com/TailsChannel/status/1948043556977021331>>150178075According to Evan Stanley, they'll be timeskipping to post-Frontiers in #84.
>>150178168yeah i know it's a timeskip, i just mean in terms of setting/writing. I doubt anything will change, they'll still be in these vague furry towns where they can slot in a million of their twitter friend's ocs
>>150178149>>150178162You won't believe it, but both of you are right.
>>150178162Shame it's opposite day completely localised on your post
>>150178162True>>150178149False
>>150178162The br*t*sh series exists
>>150178208the british series had good art, and good writingthe mutt series had cuckoldry, politics and soapopera
>>150178110Don't shadow and/or rogue work for g.u.n.
>>150178212>Good art>Good writingKek
>Pic related: Everyone involved in this story>>150177663>>150177702I like a lot of the OCs introduced. Tangle & Whisper are fine and haven't been nearly as obnoxious in stealing the spotlight as many here would claim. The Bad Guys mini actually made Zavok kind of cool in making him more than just a nigga that wants to fuck shit up. The problem with the writing is that characters aren't allowed to develop and always reset back to their worst stupid selves because of status quo. I challenge you to find multiple examples of Shadow not acting like a retard and actively choosing to work with Sonic rather than against him. You can't. And whether that's Sega's fault, or Flynn's doesn't matter. Believe me. I want to like the IDW continuity. I want to enjoy fun adventures with Sonic and his friends, but they make it so fucking hard with how soulless and formulaic a lot of the smaller plots involving major characters tend to be.At least the camping story had wholesome moments with Amy and the girls, but other than that everything has just been so fucking dumb.
>>150178223Sonic and tails came out of this issue pretty alright.
>>150178220>no argument>you haven't read itthanks for admitting it tho
>>150178215No, Ian, they don't.
>>150178241Shadow doesn't, but Rouge does. At least after SA2
>>150178234That looks like shit. Penders current art is better
>>150178257I'd say you have no taste, but considering you consoom archie cuck slop that was already obvious
>>150178212>politicsRobotnik is a fascist. That made bong sonic political by default you dumbass.>soapoperaSo nobody cared when Johnny died. Got it.
>>150178257>Penders current art is better>current art
>>150178252I always felt Rouge, like Shadow, is closer to a mercenary for hire. They take on jobs for GUN, but they are not part of their public payroll.Though, it seems Shadow doesn't even get paid, and just do stuff because he is asked, kek.
Welp Tailscel is here with his cuckoldry and scat obsession. Thead's over. See you next time everyone.
>>150178229They're usually the only ones who ever make it out 'alright'. Everyone else gets hit with the retard stick official or OC alike. Even fucking Silver and Whisper with their idiotic attempt at trying to capture Mimic weren't immune.
>>150178291wah wah. pick fights get hit, archiefag. don't come in here shitting your diapee for archie if you don't want people to insult it for what it was
>>150178208Only contrarian centrists give a shit about Fleetway.
>>150178323or people that actually read itmost american sonicfags haven't because they can't read
>>150178314>didn’t deny his incel status or his scat obsession
>>150178323Fleetway’s main fanbase is a bunch of gen-z children who want to see Britbong Super Sonic fight Sonic.exe in a Friday night funkin rap battle.
>>150178208>>150178220Fuck you nigger, Fleetway was kino. Pure mile-a-minute comic insanity.
>>150178333>most american sonicfags haven't because Fleetway is dead and forgottenFTFY
>>150178399>implying "dead and forgotten" is a bad thing in our modern era of endless shitty sequels and rebootsFAAAAAAAAAAG
You could pick a random page from a random Fleetway story, and they'd put more effort into the coloring than a whole arc of IDW or Archie
>>150178425kek, i do like the look of this guy
>>150176219>>150176747This was pretty cuteany Tails x Rouge comic requests?
>>150178223Hit the nail on the head, especially with Shadow, I just don't get WHY he's antagonistic? Even fucking Vegeta, who Sega is clearly trying to emulate, would voice his opinions but would still work with Goku.
>>150178425There's a good chance you'd get a page drawn by that one shitty Fleetway artist that draws everyone like cardboard cutouts.
>>150178573rouge getting caught by a boobytrap tails set up in his workshop
>>150178573>>150178642>they showed upFigures. So much for the thread to be on topic.
>>150176290can you not be a retard, I don't want to have to defend this comicthe literal next page shows they placed a tracker on the thief, they're not wanting him to get away, they're wanting to make sure he can escape shadow while they track him at a better opportunity
>>150178208the only one that tried to actually be a good kids adventure comic as opposed to shitty soap opera (kirby flavor) or shitty soap opera (claremont flavor)?
>>150178573This page >>150176145 but Rouge realises that she's not wearing anything under the dress, and Tails is embarrassed
>>150176043This issue has confirmed my fears that Rouge has been demoted to be nothing except the Tails to Shadow's Sonic.
>>150176043why is ant size?
>>150179041see >>150176084
>>150178425I never got into Fleetway cause the characters never looked like actual Sonic characters or even an attempt to match the look.
>>150178573I love Rouge's tits so much it's unreal
>>150179213Same!https://co.llection.pics/post/view/134893
>>150179213all love Rouge' tits...aside the paladins of censorpship.
>>150176084That dress is absolutely terrible.
>>150179658it'd look good on another character, but with Rouge it goes down to her ankles and doesn't show any leg
>>150176316Lunar's the mask itself, calling it.Anyway, good issue. Conflict's a little forced but it was fun. The coloring was REALLY bad though, holy fuck.
>>150179674No, I mean the way its drawn and the colors used are really bad. A layered, ruffled dress is fine, but that one is just awful.
>>150178200>they'll still be in these vague furry townsthats what sonic has been for the last 11 years.
>>150176145AND THE HEDGEHOG IN BLACK SAID "EVERYONE MOVE BACK" AND IT TURNED INTO A BALLROOM BLITZ
>>150179201The game characters do look like they belong in Sonic, otherwise everyone else look off for some reasononly a few OCs pulled it off, such as Zachary and Blockhead Bill. Shortfuse was 50/50
>>150176316Looked more interesting with the mask on
>>150176316Nice gigantic boner in the middle panel.
>Insane troonCan't make this shit up. Anyway, how many actual schizos do we even have in Sonic?>Eggman>Metal>Now this unidentified blob of flesh
hate to spoil it for everyone, but the plot is:>Starline is back from the dead (it was his original concept to be a Frankenstein monster, plus the vampire coffin)>hypnotised this nonbinary genderxir to collect the last emerald (he stole the other one from Tails' lab like he tried to do in Impostor Syndrome)>?>that's it.Don't expect this vampire guy to be anyone except starline. Evan tried this same "vague hints" thing before in the Chao Racing story and it was just Starline again, they don't introduce OCs this way just preexisting villains so only Starline or Mimic
>>150176316One of the acrobats got hypnotized by Starline and the writers are just yanking the readers by saying this is a new main stay characters, when its just a one-and-done background oc./sthg/ is going to write essays how this character is badly established as villain regardless.
>>150179554Countless fuzzy tatas all around and yet you go for the greasy pigskin. Like rubbing a dead komodo dragon.
>>150179784Wait, is the character really trans? Or just twitter jumping conclusions with the likes of Evan playing along for the free brownie points
>>150176476Kids don't even know where to find this comic. It's a tepid comic created by toothless oldfags intended for oldfags with no expectations or standards. But officially they have to pretend it's for a bunch of kids who probably don't even know about their nearest comic shop.
>>150179932Everyone thought it's some kind of tranny because...well, look at it. And it's obvious they're trying not to make it look like a boy or girl.So someone asked Evan for Xir's pronouns and Evan said it's neither a Boy nor a Girl he just goes by They/Them/Lunar. I believe twitter troons would call that "nonbinary"
>>150179948*also obvious in this issue where everyone somehow magically knows only to only call it "they/them/their"
>>150179941Sonic has fans of the newer generations. As we all know, Sonic never loses fans to anything but death.
>>150177594There must be some stipulation that OCs have to prop up game characters to a certain degree to justify existing.
>>150179941>Muh oldfagsSorry but only kiddies and newfags care about IDW, their mischaracterization of pre-established characters + OCs
>>150179948>>150179958The "they/them" can be explained with the characters not knowing the acrobat's gender.But everything else you describe just sounds exactly as the classic>"Twitter says character is *insert alphabet people name*, author plays along"Even if the character does not have a clear gender on first sight.Now, don't think I'm saying Evan wouldn't create such a character from the get go, but this one in particular feels to me like it will become one due to "popular" demand, rather then being planned as such from the get go.
>>150177828Rouge really doesn't have a particular expectancy to be more capable than Tails. Tails is observably more intelligent and outside of Sonic Heroes and like... Sonic Prime, he can usually fly a lot better than her too.
>>150179998nah it totally was, man. You can just tell on these things, the design is the most twitter tranny thing i've ever seen
>>150180020*plus wouldn't be the first or even 2nd or 3rd time Evan's inserted tranny characters into IDWhe first IDW story (Chao Races) she put ThanksKenPenders' tranny OC as the judge
>>150179959Kids like Sonic. They know him through shit like the movies and Roblox.Kids don't read floppies.
>>150180020>>150180024I don't consider myself an expert on that, so I'll take your word on it.I do think Tangle and Whisper are a case of characters that became lesbians due to peer "pressure" (in quotation marks, because even if not planned, they obviously loved the idea the moment they knew it)But correct me if I'm wrong.
>>150180041Any interaction with the fanbase online will at least bring them into contact with the IDW characters because people are always posting the lesbians. And maybe Sally; people just seem to know Sally without reading the comics or watching SATAM.
>>150176219>>150176202>>150176265Why does Rouge always job in this comic. Why the fuck does Ian hate Shadow so much and makes him an Knuckles based moron compared to Sonic? Someone fire his hack ass!
>>150180048I only agree because it really felt like they were intended for totally separate roles. Essentially a parallel adventurer to Sonic, and their personal take on the Sonic Forces player character. And saddling them together pretty much stops either from excelling at their intended purposes.Not anti lesbian shipping, it just feels like these characters just keep each other shackled.
>>150180082Wasn't this written by Evan? Not that your Flint rant was wrong, though.
>>150180059Your not wrong, but your kinda proving in my point. They can know and even like Whisper/Surge etc. without even reading this comic. Just like Sally has a lot of exposure even though her actual source media is super niche now.
>>150177594Ian writes Sonic with mary sue plot relevance more than the game. It pisses me off.
>>150177001>He fell for the 4chan's an epic political site meme
>>150178573>>150178642Shadouge > Tailouge
>>150177663I like Belle.
>>150180048Tangle and Whisper are just the female Sonic and Tails. If that makes them lesbian then Sonic and Tails are gay.
>>150177663I stopped reading after issue 50, but I liked some parts and didn't care at all about anything else. Archie took 160 issue to get good so I'm fine with them cooking until I'm 50.
>>150180099I feel both Flynn and Stanley give Shadow less credit as a competent character because they're sonic dick riders before Shadow fans. Shadow is just a prop and jobber to justify Sonic being top dog.
>>150180130Don't engage.Don't give them reasons to play the victim.
>>150180130If your a woman maybe
>>150180171weren't you already whining before? >>150178690swear you just meltdown at the sight of them, every thread
>>150180141
>>150180141>Sonic and Tails are gayYes
>>150180187>Unlike Sonic I don't fuckle>I'd rather stretch my butthole
>>150180178>whining>meltdownI'm curious if you are the same anon I replied to, or the other party. It is hard to tell at this point.
>>150176418Surprisingly based!Even they can't fight reality. Heh. They.
Starting to notice a pattern that retards tend to scream when a character dares to not win all the time or even show real flaws instead of superficial ones. They need to be boringly perfect always and be a total sue when. Like COUGHsh*dowfansCOUGH
>>150180181Why is Silver this weird orbiter in this comic?
>>150180222I can't tell if you're whining about people not liking the incompetent OCs or whining that Shadow fans don't like Shadow being a loser.
>>150179948>Everyone thought it's some kind of tranny because...well, look at it. And it's obvious they're trying not to make it look like a boy or girl.I dunno, looks pretty boyish to me. A wimpy boy, sure. But the design is not particularly feminine. I'm just gonna go with a shota.
>>150180177All sonic shes are effeminate. Not a single masculine thing that shippabke about any guy with the girls since the guys are more flamboyant than the ladies.
>>150180324>A wimpy boyWho do you think are their favourite targets to turn into trans or twinks
Since the IDW's Sonic has gone down the shitter, I have a lot of spare cash I was going to use to buy the hardcover collections.Any alternate omnibus recommendations, guys?
I refuse to believe any mandates are real when this comic continues to make the character with the most marketing momentum of recent look like a jackass for the sake of it.I don't even care for Shadow, this just feels like it's in direct opposition to what every other piece of Sonic media is doing.
>>150180222Shadow doesn't need to be written like Knuckles and be played at Sonixs expense as a lesser competant person, but that's where we're at now Shadow some how has to be expressed as the less hedgehog and is dumber and more reckless than Sonic when earlier it was Sonic who played this role to Shadow being less smarter and somehow less capable than him in terms of fighting and speed.
>>150180222It's kinda weird. Batman gets his ass beat all the time and people don't mind. It would be stupid for Shadow to win considering he's not that strong or fast.
>>150180350The so called "mandates" are just directives that any IP-derived work has. Back in the 90s, they were more or less enforced depending on the company, but they all have them.At some point Ian and company flgured the best way to dodge criticism was to shift blame into the mandates, in other words, Sega, because their work was not being good enough.
>>150180364Batman always wins ridiculously to balance it out and Shados has been portrayed as stronger/more powerful than everyone so far thanks to the various media
>>150180364>Batman gets his ass beat all the time and people don't mind
>>150180376He needs rocket boots to keep up with sonic, his strength is clearly not on par with knuckles and his chaos shit can't hold a candle to silver's telekinesis. He can go super, but outside of that he's kind of outdone in every area.
>>150180392NTA, but to be fair, this particular scene was the culmination of various issues carried out by years, whose boiling point was Batman's death.
>>150180394Yeah ignoring the latest game which i didn't play, Shadow's entire thing is being on par with Sonic for strength (and maybe a little stronger uninhibited) but also having immortality/regen
>>150180394There's no bootless variant of Shadow so I don't really see why that's a point of contention.
>>150178212STC had exactly one good artist, Richard Elson, and he sucked at emoting anything other than anger and pain.
>>150180394>He needs rocket boots to keep up with sonicThey are air shoes powered by his own chaos energy>ic, his strength is clearly not on par with knuckles Not according to the movie, hes the only one capable of standing equally to him in a slug fest.>chaos shit can't hold a candle to silver's telekinesis. Did we play the same game, Shadow shit on silvers psychic powers with one emerald and has beaten him without one>He can go super, but outside of that he's kind of outdone in every area.He can use his inhibitor release to outstat everyone in base. If he keeps his doom powers he'd be more a monstrous combat freak. Alot of character don't treat him lightly especially Sonic, Tails, Silver, and Knuckles by their own words
>>150180466And Omega who says is the only one who he thinks is worthy to challenge and is faster/better than Sonic. Omega words = word of god.
>>150180394>chaos shit can't hold a candle to silver's telekinesisNigga what?06, the only real game to give Silver a serious narrative role (besides Rivals, which didn't even make it back to Japan), goes out of its way to show Silver's too much of a rookie to close the gap between himself and Sonic or Shadow, even with telekinesis. That's WITHOUT either of them using Chaos abilities.
>>150180466That thing about "powered by his own chaos energy" is headcanon, Wave says in Crossworlds they're just old Skate Gear, a type of Extreme Gear. Tails makes his own for fun in Sonic Channel
>>150180532*hell now that i remember you can also buy skate gear for the others to race in too, in Riders
So... honest thoughts on Lunar so far?
>>150180466>and has beaten him without onenever
>>150180532Nah theyre not the same. Wave is a rage baiting bitch that was shot down by eggman and tails as inferior tech genius. Nothing she says is credible. Shadows air shoes are still more advanced than anything gear skates do which need external source to work.
>>150180550Just feels like a shallow Nights homage to me.
>>150180557If Sonic can beat him without one so can Shadow and scale wise about the same level during generations.
>>150180578There's a visible power struggle in this issue alone. The first shot of her dress makes her look boobless, then each proceeding frame gives her more and more cleavage and defined boobage.
>>150180577they are the same. Hell Shadow literally swaps out his regular shoes for new Skate Gear in Riders that work literally the exact same, that's his default. They don't need external sources either, if you play the game you see they function exactly the same
>>150180601shhh, the shadowcuck can't play the games or read.
>>150180550I feel like I’m looking at a tumor that is going to progress into some really nasty cancer very soon. Throwing even the smallest crumb to the transgender community is a horrible move and will blow up in everyone’s face.
>>150180577eggman and tails both said she knows more about extreme gear than them. eggman even offered her a job. Don't cry just because you self insert as Shadow, christ
>>150180394Silvers telekinesis doesn't even help him enough to beat Sonic.
>>150180601>>150180610>>150180629Agree to disagree, Shadows airshow don't function the same because they can maintain infinite momentum on any surface and act like Sonics shoes when applied on any surface. Extreme gear is limited compared to what Shadow can do.
>>150180601>Hell Shadow literally swaps out his regular shoes for new Skate Gear in Riders that work literally the exact samethey literally don't extreme gear runs on air and have to be refueled when they run out.
>>150176124That one girl looks like Breezie.
>>150180618The bright side is that, for all their talk of inclusivity and rainbow filters in their logos, Sega usually don't apply said believes into their IPs.Most progressive shit in Sonic lies in Xitter/Tumblr/Reddit's headcanons, only validated by Evan, Ian or others.
>>150180601>Skate Gear in Riders that work literally the exact same,>>150180610>shhh, the shadowcuck can't play the games or readWhy lie?
>>150176246>You should be more concerned about your positionfujobaiting
>>150180679Act like Sonic's shoes as in???The Extreme Gear are faster than Sonic and Shadow. Shadow's Skate Gear are described as Air Skates, same as the regular ones. They also have additional powers like air boosting/air dashing. They do all the same things as Shadow's old shoes and more, that's why he needed to upgrade to them to compete.
Shadow's skates, which that he holds very dear, is just something that anybody could literally buy now and work just as good or even better with the leap in advancements is fucking hilarious.
>simple, sonic adventure focused mostly on game chars with OC not shoved in face and part of eggman grand plan>its hatedJust admit fags you want Archie drama and game only was mistake.
>>150180698You refuel on air to do Air Boosts/Air Slides. They still run without it, you fuel on air for additional powers
>>150180550It's weird that they are trying to treat this character as some sort of progressive benchmark when their clearly based on Nights who was "non-binary" before it was cool.Also they weren't a schizo antagonist.
>>150180746When has that not been what we're asking for?
>>150176950That was my immediate thought, the fact they take off the mask immediately makes that feel like the case
>>150180732How am I lying? Play the first ever Riders game, it's the default, they just switched out his normal running animation and called it "Skate Shoes"
>>150180740I wonder what the Japanese version says.NTA, just in case, it's just that Sonic's translations tend to be a little off.
>>150178946We knew that going back to sonic heroes. The step away from 2deep4u game stories confirmed it.
>>150180746>>simple, sonic adventure focused mostly on game chars with OC not shoved in face
>>150180774They aren't air powered and you know it.
>>150180746>OC not shoved in faceBut Shadow is there doing that ;)
>>150180743>>150180740>They're(extreme sir skate) lesser than Shadow air seats because they make him as fast as the fastest thing alive and have infinite energy.Shadow > Chicken tech
>>150180801Which aren't? Shadow's air shoes, which have air in the name. Or the Extreme Gear Air Shoes, which only use Air for additional powers which Shadow's normal air shoes don't have, and otherwise run without it?
>>150180755Because NiGHTS is a true androgynous character that back in the day, most people still called a "He", or an "It" at most, because NiGHTS not being male or female was just a detail and not its entire character.Now it is just pure pandering, or rather, self-indulgence.
>>150180807Are you having a stroke because I triggered you so hard? That sentence is unintelligible.That manual says Extreme Gear are fastER than Sonic/Shadow, btw
>>150180629Yet they view Shadow far above her as a racer and with higher expectations using his skates than herself and Jet
>>150180821No, not really, they don't.You just got exposed as lying/knowing nothing about the games and now you're writing fanfic about them to adjust. How sad.
>>150180809Have you not played Riders? When you run out of air, you're fucked. It's not for "additional powers", it's for basic functionality.
>>150180807>They're(extreme sir skate) lesser than Shadow air seats because they make him as fast as the fastest thing alive and have infinite energyis this even English?
>>150180818That manual is fuck dogshit like your argument. Stay over there.
>>150177783>even mummies could be a possibilityNo, then it would have been a sarcophagus. Really, there are only so many things a coffin of that style could be.
>>150180837Depends which game you're playing. They either swap-out for onfoot, or they stay on the boards and the boards keep working without (Free Riders). The air is needed for special actions/tricks
>>150180860you mean fuckING. And over where? What are you talking about? lol i'll stay here in the USA and you stay there in India, Saar>Shadowcuck now crying at the canon game manual for btfoing him
>>150180873Okay well honestly I never played freeriders.But the first two games make it look like the gear literally stops functioning without a regular supply of air.
>>150180830>>150180847Cope and Seethe
>>150180830
>>150180901It still works, but you'll need air to go at the full speed across the course. Otherwise you're just cruising
I think we can all agree that Jet is better than that black loser.
>>150180904>>150180921>twitter filenamesI advise you go back there, Saaar
>>150180807>They're(extreme sir skate) lesser than Shadow air seats because they make him as fast as the fastest thing alive and have infinite energy
>>150180707Metal is so lucky
>>150180940That's not particularly common sentiment, no.
>>150180940of course
unironically if IDW asked to use NiGHTS could they?
>>150180990Jet is certified /ourguy/
>>150180940>>150180945>>150180990>>150181006No still cope
>>150180993Probably, if they followed certain guidelines.But they don't even want humanoids besides Eggman to exist in Sonic's world, so they would never ask.
>>150181017>needs Dodonpa's car to compete with Jet's custom Extreme GearYawn.Remember, Extreme Gear still confirmed faster than him, btw. Hope you don't forget that Shadowcuck
>>150180940I feel robbed he didn't get his stamp.
>>150180679>>150180904>>150180921>>150181017Shadow fans still win
>>150181038>RTH
>he’s seething this hardOh no no no no no no shadow bros
>>150181027>Shadow beat Jet so many times with or without a board.>Sonic beat Jet without cheating and Shadow beat Sonic in a race as well, so Jet is forever a second place has been Just give up
>>150181056they always are. All they got is denial of reality and self-inserting into a nursery school series
>>150181060Fucking delite this now
>>150181060>Posting archieshit cause he can't post a gameFigures.Also Shadow never beat Sonic in a race, or else Final Story of SA2 wouldn't happen.
>>150181056No not really. Shadow keeps winning and his air shoes are faster than chicken tech
>>150181060>>150181075You know we can see your 1-minute timestamps (and also your atrocious spelling mistakes)
>>150180814And also, you know, fantasy. Nights is a fantastical character from the dream realm or whatever. Nowadays, an ideology is being pushed that this stuff is actually real so we have characters that are "between sexes" without any fantasy or sci-fi element being responsible.
How this fuck did this thread turn into Jet's one fan picking a fight with an Indian Shadow fan
>>150181080Then how come the Game says Extreme Gear are faster than him, anon? (:Also he needed to swap to new skates to keep up, don't forget
>>150181079>Shadow never beat Sonic in a race, or else Final Story of SA2 wouldn't happen.>already did 4 days agoCope
>>150181101Jet has no fans, this fat shadowspic just cries and throws a tantrum every sonic thread. Same insecurity over powerlevels, same bad grammar. Talk about having no life.
>>150181101I knew the thread was going to be derailed, but I imagined an entire different scenario.Life, huh? I stand corrected.
Wasn't this the comic that had a section where the artist recommended a groomer porn comic to minors? How was that ok?
>>150181110in a car race you mean? While driving someone else's car, nonethelessSonic's faster than Shadow in a real race. Extreme Gear are Faster than Shadow too. Canon.
>>150181118what
>>150181118>>150181128it has to do with trannies so it's wholesome
>>150181118Well, the truth is that... it isn't correct.But they got away with it scott-free anyway.
>>150181090>>150181102Jet fans are lovers and virgins confirmed.
>>150181118You mean Berserk?
>>150181146i'm sure "lover" is an insult in your hometongue, raj, but can you translate it for us?
>>150181127>Sonic's faster than Shadow in a real race. Extreme Gear are Faster than Shadow too. Canon.Nope they're equal(foot or car), confirmed by Tails, Eggman and Omega. Cope and seethe.
>>150181148this onehttps://www.amazon.com/dp/1549304003
>TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIESGo back to /sthg/, where the actual trannies reside.
>>150181146Go back to humping a maga hat, cuck.
>>150181018They are adding Sage so not the most hopeless idea. Only issue is I don't trust IDW to not have NiGHTS be a yapping blabster who never shuts up. Just entirely non verbal and relying on body language and cartoon antics to get the message across.
>>150181128It was in issue 76. In the creator corner, Gigi Dutreix recommended Gender Queer: a Memoir to minors.
>>150181127>Extreme Gear are Faster than Shadow too.Feats or fucking kill yourselves. Shadow beat all of them despite their faster tech and can't out blitz him, so I call bs
>>150181164then post Shadow beating Sonic in a footrace. Oh wait, you can't, lmao
>>150181171>Read a comic with tranny main characters>wtf how dare they criticise us tranniesLike, what did you expect? It's literally on the cover on this one
>>150181190Shadow lost in Riders, raj. Try playing the game and then come back to us.Also look here: >>150180740 the manual itself says so. It's canon. It's ok to cry
>>150181190No, i'm pretty sure in all the Riders games, Shadow and Team Dark get btfoed
>>150181237shhh, the shadowcuck can't play the games or read.
>>150181178The Wii game already ruined that, sadly.
Yup, it's not easy representing badass and literate men, but somebody's gotta do it.
This is genuinely an argument where I want neither side to prevail.
>>150181312lemme place the "enlightened centrist" crown on your head, anon. Then go back to your cuck chair
>>150181293At least NiGHTS is cute in that one if nothing else.
>>150181301God, he's so BaBylonian Complected https://x.com/ShadeRonin/status/1961232832376050055
>>150181223>>150181237>>150181246Shadow also beat them and beat them again in the animated promo and is Centralized as Sonics main rival in speed in marketing. Maybe you Babylon Rouge fans need to step down before Shadow actually takes their lore from them and adds them to making him superior since he's still.manages to Outstrip advance racing tech by being created by a scientist beyond even Jets ancestors.>>150181301>>150181412Jets still a nobody, and Sonics views him as a nobody compared to Shadow and Metal.
>>150181392Thinking Shadow and Jet are lame doesn't make you a centrist. They both represent an extreme side of the spectrum.
>he's still seething at Jetlol
>>150181178Shit, he was a blabber when Archie did a NiGHTS adaptation
>>150181730>yap yap indian english coping with dodonpa’s car raceJet was confirmed canonically faster than Shadow’s slow extreme gear shoes, btw. Remember?Now I shall quote from the script of Sonic Free Riders, as a white american man who can read it unlike shadow rajeshis:>Team Babylon Mission 03>Shadow: This is some kind of mistake. How could I lose AGAIN?>Rouge: Wow, three freak wins in row...>Jet: Are you guys really that blind to your faults?!>Omochao: And at the end of the first race, it's Team Babylon that's come out on top! These wind masters live up to the legends! There's already talk of this team going all the way. Let's get a word with them!>Wave: Well of course we won the opening round. We're here to win the whole shebang.>Jet: Where's the challenge?! I knew my only real competition was Sonic the Hedgehog.
>>150181754Jet seethe at Sonic, Shadow already won against Jet(multiple times). So there's nothing you can say that changes things that makes Jet less impressive.
>>150181840>Shadow already won against Jet(multiple times)No he hasn’t. In fact Jet beats up Shadow in every Riders game.And if you were able to read >>150181835 you’d know that Jet beat up 3 TIMES IN A ROW in just 1 game, and Shadow seethed and cried from it like a baby, lmao
>>150181835>Tldlr non canon path E-10000B: Well folks, it's an amazing victory for Team Dark, which is no surprise to anyone with a brain! Omochao: Hey, I'm the fast-talking commentator here! I'll grant you that was a pretty cool impersonation, but stop butting in on my territory! Rouge: I just feel bad for everyone watching. This won't even be close. Wave: An upset like this must have really let the fans down... Storm: And now the boss is mad! Jet: Let's go! Time to cool off, then start plotting revenge. Sonic: I'm impressed, Shadow! You guys managed to beat Jet and his gang. Shadow: Hmph! Did you really think that we would lose? Knuckles: I see your ego's as big as ever, Shadow. Tails: That robot's a new addition, though. This could be tough, guys! Omochao: Team Heroes seems cool and collected. Is it the calm before the storm?! I'll have all the details, assuming that robot doesn't get any more funny ideas!Shadow never lost to Jet ever again after that.
>>150181835>>150181854>Jet beat up 3 TIMES IN A ROW in just 1 gameKEKWhat a loser. This is your “hero” Shadow blobs?
I honestly believe /pol/ shitposting about the new OCs gender identity is more approachable than whatever this is.
>>150181870It’s the only canon path, where Eggman reveals E-10000B as Metal at the end
>>150181854>gameplay mechanics is jet beating Shadow.>really this retardedCope, Shadow is a better racer than chicken fried fraud
>>150181911Scripts aren’t game mechanics.I know you’re too dumb to learn english but do at least try, blackie
>>150181872>>150181883Samefag>>150181883No its not
>>150181911You can’t even spell, Shadow self-inserter. Also Main Story (Team Sonic) confirms Team Dark lost to the Rogues thrice and only managed to beat Team Rose
>>150181922Nah you lose
>>150181933Is your reposted twitter meme meant to mean something? Go back.
>>150176265Well, that's another loss for Jobdow. Gotta add it to the collage.
>>150181961Might wanna read >>150181079>Posting archieshit cause he can't post a gameFigures.Also Shadow never beat Sonic in a race, or else Final Story of SA2 wouldn't happen.Now learn English or go back to twitter, raj.
>>150181954Main story is irrelevant since Shadow beat Jet and Sonic anyways is his story.
>>150181984Did Shadow actually beat Jet or were they both losers given Sonic left with the Warp Topaz?
>>150181964>>150181980>>150181983Cope and Seethe, Sega loves Shadow and will have him only beat Sonic for now on. Not Jet
>>150182042the Warp Topaz?
>>150182049Yeah, Sega loves Shadow. IDW clearly has a beef with him though.
>>150181101Why are you surprised?Every Sonic thread gets spammed with Sonic and Shadow self-inserters crying like blubber babies.
>>150182084Not used to Jet self inserters though.
>>150181783I know right, have NiGHTS rely on how expressive the fucker is
>>150182084>Shadow self-inserters crying like blubber babies.Projection much, this applies more to Shadow haters blubbering that he gets the spotlight over the cast.
>>150182119Nobody thinks Jet is cool though. Even Silver is cooler than Jet.
I bet you anything basing this character off of Nights was how they convinced Sega to go with the whole non-gendered thing in the first place.
>>150182042 #>Did Shadow actually beat JetThe awnser is always yes because sega and the writters will always have Jet be a joke to the main cast.
>>150182084>Every Sonic thread gets spammed with Sonic and Shadow self-inserters crying like blubber babies.You're right with the Shadow part. As for Sonic, what its actually like is Tails self-inserters getting mad at Sonic and his fans and crying.
>>150177971They/Them has been used for 3rd Person Singular Unknown for such a long time, it isn't some new id pol thing.
>>150182181it can be used but it's unusual, especially if you've met the person
>>150182172>>150181080Seems less light a fight and more like two losers left holding the bag. I guess Rouge technically won what with all the gold and all.
>>150180236That's Silver ever since the Archie Reboot.He started out like Trunks from Z and now he's more like Time Patrol Trunks (always there guy that helps the plot along and is a loser 80% of the time).
>>150182174>You're right with the Shadow partNot really, we're getting everything we want while only the comics are screwing up Shadow just for more Sonic dick riding.
>>150180993Highly doubtful. Sega would want money for the separate IP and its doubtful IDW would pay up.
>>150176418Kek
>>150182291So you just want everything to be Shadow dick riding and cry when he isn't. Got it. Sonic is better than Shadow btw. Just putting that out there.
Ok but when will they ever introduce Sonic's world humans (other than Eggman) to the comics? I want GUN to return.I've heard they're not even being mandated by SEGA to not show them, and it's literally a Dobson-tier autistic creative decision. Is this true?
>>150182306I feel like whatever the price would be it would be next to nothing, they barely use nights.
>>150182364IPs costing a shitton are like half the reason Worlds Unite killed the Archie comic.
>>150182135https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/yKaC3LNdVvYixVY2R76IJg5 years of you having no life and just crying on your computer on 4chan all day. Get a real life already, fatboi, you've wasted half a decade here being a self-inserter>>150182174To this day i've never seen a single Tailsfag go onto your Sonic or Shadow shipping threads in their free time trying to sabotage it. To this day I've never seen a single Tails x Rouge or Tails x Vanilla thread where a Sonicfag didn't start bawling and try to ruin it with a tantrum because you aren't drawing specifically their self insert. You might want to think about why you do that.
>>150182155>Even Silver is cooler than Jet.Jet is not just cooler than Silver, he's an actual good character to boot.
>>150182393i hate IP squatting so much man, fucking Capcom lol.
>>150182354Yes it's true, Shadow Generations shows humans extensively.
>>150182206That's not unfair, if you saw someone in a trenchcoat running away, you would probably presume male too.
>>150182354What is the point of them coming back when they just get btfo?
>>150182444it's also a mouthful to have to assume gender neutral in everything, their plan in their house where we will catch them and find out what they were planning. Eventually you default to "that guy" and end up on "him"
>>150180392Losing a fight is not the same as being killed.
>>150182353Sonic shouldn't be better than everyone and never lose, that makes him a boring Gary stu. And there's no way Sonic is a better written character than Shadow. Absolutely not. He's just easier to write and fun to use in a shallow way.
>>150182354The leading suspicion is that Sega hasn't figured out an easy "template" for generic human models like the Forces OC generator, and they're clamping down on anyones' human portrayals to prevent any warped expectations of how they're meant to look.Before anyone points to Tailstube, understand that to this day, there is a divide in the workflow between SoJ & SoA. With the games, Sonic Team writes the story, but the dialogue is written later. On two occasions (Lost World and Frontiers) the English script localizers were allowed to write their version of the script first, then Sonic Team made further changes to it for the Japanese version, to make it match their vision. That's why the Japanese script for Frontiers is almost completely different, at least for the main cutscenes. It was only around The Final Horizon that Ian was allowed to write the script for the main cutscenes, which were translated to Japanese while someone else at Sonic Team wrote the script for the secondary cutscenes, which were translated to English without Ian's involvement.
>>150182402>tdlr non senseAre you having a stroke old man?
>>150182403Jets a liar, cheater, a coward and total greedy scum bag who cant win anything fair and square. Silver is beyond Jet in total awesomeness as he's on par with Sonic and Shadow in their general skills and saves the world on his own.
>>150182515>Sonic shouldn't be better than everyone and never lose, that makes him a boring Gary stuBut that's what he is
>>150182583Then why he croak to Knux in sonic 3
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>>150182578you could've saved some words and just wrote "I never played Free Riders"
>>150182135Based shadow harem enjoyer
>>150182643you're replying to yourself>>150181038again
>>150182625The game where Sonic beat Jet and saved most of the day?
>>150182515>And there's no way Sonic is a better written character than Shadow. Absolutely not. He's just easier to write and fun to use in a shallow way.See pic relatedAlso>Sonic shouldn't be better than everyone and never lose, that makes him a boring Gary stuYou niggas be talking shit about Sonic all the time, then you faggots literally bitch when your husbando isn't being a boring gary stu. Not to mention coming in threads with like: how he should hog everything, be better, should never lose, fuck everyone, etc. Do you not have any self awareness?
>>150182666no, the game where Jet beat Sonic fair and square and even got mad at Wave for trying to cheat because that would make his win illegitimate. Then demanded a rematch when he suspected Wave of cheating.I don't know how anyone can be so delusional trying to call Jet a cheater when his character is all about how much he hates the very idea of that. Must take being a hedgehog self-inserter triggered by the outside world.
>>150182625So, most Sonic fans?
>>150182663Cope snd Seethe. I'm right incel.
>>150182736you can't even spell "snd", that's why you spent 5 years on your computer, self inserting and crying like a woman every sonic thread https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/yKaC3LNdVvYixVY2R76IJg
>>150182682That image is retarded, whether you like a character or it has more impact on you doesn't matter to the rest of the world.
>>150182578I don’t see how those things make Jet a bad character. Especially when compared to the most contrived character to keep around who makes every story he touches down in quality just by being in it.
>>150182697>no, the game where Jet beat Sonic fair and squareWasn't even on Sonics league and already lost when Sonic mastered extreme gear the second he rode it. Jet cheated like a bitch and still enjoyed his win seeing him lose and didnt care if it was dishonest.>Must take being a hedgehog self-inserter triggered by the outside world.Imagine being a cartoon burden self inserter fan where he's treated as a joke in universe, way worse
>>150182792You're just admitting you never played the game, Shadowbaby, because Jet never cheated. Get a life already, christ, it's embarrassing seeing a grown man like you throw a tantrum over fictional character you never even played
Wait, aren't you that same Sasuke cuckold who seethes at Naruto being better than him?https://desuarchive.org/_/search/image/oIIxKZCSaxbmANHiIuakAA%3D%3D/page/1/KEK if so
>>150181880Can they both be completely equally retarded for different reasons?
>>150182844Look at this gem>Really? dont you mc self inserters fucking have enough hentai fan art and attention of them plowing the oversexxed waifu to death with your moutains of doujinshis and porn cg works? Let us rival fans have some fun for once and some attention. Especially to you insufferable naruharem fanboys! You faggots got so much porn of him and other girls you block out other not only Sasuje but shonen heroes! Its because of you Sasuke is always looked down upon by the quality culture of nerdom and called a boring emo failure who is known for being ntr fuel for that cringy ugly ass white boi weeb nardo and the blackage.Embarrassing
>>150182697I never played freeriders but that's crazy that would just flip flip his characterization and reputation like that. I'll have to take your word for it.
>>150182977since 2019 too. Allah please don't let me ever get that pathetic, I want a wife and kids
>>150182977https://x.com/JoeSho87/media
>>150183082Just a look and it gets worse. How do you get this pathetic.
>>150180187
>>150183128https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/306774142/#30679529338 year old man, btw
>>150183192LMAO
>>150182844Oh my god I haven't seen this guy in years, he had multiple twitter accounts where he spammed gore of naruto and sonic over shipping/porn. He self inserts in to shadow and sasuke extremely hard and is all about them having harems, he's still at it?
>>150183222>>150183082I was trying to remember his username, I could only remember the Joe part. I remember him having some sasuke harem specific accounts too.
>>150183222yup. every sonic thread now he's here crying guy like that (the average sonic/shadowcuck) never stood a chance in the real world where even a little kid might beat him up and steal his lunch money
>>150182515>Sonic shouldn't be better than everyone and never lose, that makes him a boring Gary stu.That's how he's written in basically everything. He's boring.
>>150183222>>150183244tried doing same with a mha harem accounthttps://x.com/Purifyallnowgot suspended for still constantly seething and self-inserting as shadow the hedgecuck
>>150183222One of these said accounts of his, where he does the same thinghttps://x.com/purifyallnow2/media
>>150183192>nearly fucking 40 years old and still self-inserting through shadow the hedgehog and sasukeIMAGINE
>>150183354imagine the smell more like, kek
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>>150182782Nothing burger of an argument, Jet and his gang a shallow bully but joke antagonist getting put in his place by everyone who get manages to get on everyone's bad side. Shadows own love of Cofee Beans has more depth and compelling entertainment value that the former>>150182682>You niggas be talking shit about Sonic all the time, then you faggots literally bitch when your husbando isn't being a boring gary stu. Not to mention coming in threads with like: how he should hog everything, be better, should never lose, fuck everyone, etc. Do you not have any self awareness?So sonic should be the only Gary stu then, no wonder the year of shadow is continuing. Sonic is boring by himself now.
>>150183128>>150183192>>150183222>>150183327>>150183354Are you guys high
>>150182823>Tdlr of projection Cry moar
>>150182764>>150182782>>150183192>>150183222>>150183244These posts are all the same guy including the troll
>>150183548>>150183577>>150183618hey anon?
>>150183679Who's that?
>>150183797a loser. He canonically got cucked and beaten up by Naruto
>>150183863damn just like Shadow then
>>150183244>>150183259>>150183325>>150183354>>150183363Why are you talking to yourself, get laid already
>>150183863>>150183873Why are you talking to yourself? Shadow is a winner unlike you.
>>150183863Sasuke won in a sense he got away with everything and the Mc still kisses his ass. The MC won the battle but not the war.
>>150183970Shadow's like Sasuke tho?And Sasuke's a cuck and a loser, last i checked
>>150183863>>150183873Well, Sasuke IS considered Naruto's Vegeta.
>>150183990the MC did win the war. All Sasuke has left is middle-aged virgin losers like you self inserting as him on your computer
>>150180236>write characters and conflict to be entirely separate to Sonic & Co>be told you need Sonic & Co for a Sonic comic license>oh fuck oh jeeze oh fuck uhhh and uhhh Silver! Phew, solved that problem
>>150183990your obsessions with "MCs" and "Rivals" is pathetic. You're a grown real man not an anime character, go outside you pig
>>150183970Based
>>150183992>Shadow's like Sasuke tho?>And Sasuke's a cuck and a loser, last i checkedNo, Shadows actually cool and competent in the games and movies. Sasuke is a joke and a deadbeat.
>>150183992>>150184009>>150183990>>150184079Still more self projection a samefag anon?
>>150184009 >>150184079 Get a girlfriend already, you're the one obsessed with mcs losing to rivals
>>150182415Having the IP != Having resources to make use of it
>>150183995I thought Shadow was based on Hiei and the Terminator according to Iizuka. Not Vegeta
>>150184133>>150184152>>150184176>>150184192we can still all see your 1-minute apart post times and embarrassing spelling errors
What attracts obese middle aged losers to Shoto Todoroki and Shadow the hedgehog, again?
>>150184253escapism/self-insertion
wtf is wrong with this fandom?Did the issue 80 thread get this autistic?
>>150184294yes.https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/yKaC3LNdVvYixVY2R76IJghttps://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149334809/#149336795hell just look at some of his other tantrums kek
>>150184284>>150184294It's just one anon who hates Shadow
>>150184313That's you anon
>>150184210>based on Hiei and the Terminator according to IizukaFirst time I've heard of those two as references for Shadow.Vegeta's name is written in Shadow's, then Terios, design sheet, proving they were aiming to give Sonic an aloof shonen rival.Then Iizuka has also mentioned Spawn as the inspiration (even denying and redacting the Vegeta name in the working sheet, kek).In any case, Hiei, in the same vein as Sasuke, is considered YuYu Hakusho's Vegeta
>>150184347nah pretty sure it's you blubbering like a self-inserting baby every thread
>>150183325>>150183327see >>150184368The twitter cuck is still self inserting through children's cartoons
>>150184268 >>150184253 #>Bakugou is also a cuckold to todoroki Anon...
>>150184368Todoroki's a character for edgy low iq manchildren with disappointed fathers, i'm not surprised you self insert as him also
>>150184406see >>150184413deleting your own posts cause you can't even post correctly, lmao
>>150184371>>150184395Sleep now little boy, this thread will die with you madness
>>150184426Way better characters than yours I'm afraid
>>150184427die with you?You're legit so dumb i can't even tell what you're saying. And you're almost 40. The only thing you can kill is another hour spent crying on the computer about MHA and sonic the hedgehog, you crybaby cuck
>>150184284See this>>150184406
>>150184454https://x.com/purifyallnow2KEK he's actually seething lmao>>150184444I don't live through shonen characters, you have to because you're a repulsive middle aged manchild
>>150184454Who is that? You? You seriously need help
>>150184477Why a re you talking to yourself
>>150184486>>1501845031 minute apart, again
>>150184503>Shadowfag is a kamala soiboy toodamn this keeps getting better
>>150184506You're talking to yourself. Nobody is here but you and me
>>150184503>anti-maga memeThis explain a lot, really.
>>150184454>>150184531How does someone's life get this pathetic? Seriously
>>150184531Kamala was right, but your still talking to yourself.
>>150184548you'reKamala is for low-t terminally online soiboys like Walz and (YOU)
Well, we hit bump limit, and I guess I owe certain anons an apology (they know who they are), against all predictions, it wasn't them who derailed the thread. So, my bad, sorry.
>>150184538>>150184542Why are you talking to yourself.
>>150184561No, you're still talking to yourself and you have no life.
>>150184565
>>150184564shut up nigger.
>>150184591Again proving my point, why is one boy so pathetic and every way
Imagine if it's actually two anons having an argument like bots and not just one anon trying to page 10 the thread and encouraging others to jump in.That'd be embarrassing to be either of those anons.
>>150183492Spam and popups as hair on a pussy
>>150184561You're more pathetic somehow because you want to ruin this kids life out of spite. You probably have no life or friends or a girlfriend either cuz You're on a sonic thread.
>>150184686wut? Am I supposed to know what your loud house deviantart picture meansThe mind of an adult shadowfag is a mystery to the adult world
Kinda funny how nothing the issue was this is how we spent the thread. Good laughs on anons exposing the shadowfag were kinda worth it though.
>>150184542You tell me anon, you're the one self spamming. Thanks for confirming g you're more pathetic and embarrassing than a middle aged loser
>>150184704>>150184712You just expose yourself and only you. Seek help.
>>150184715no not really, i think the 38 year old self-inserter shadowfag is still the embarrassing one
>Sonic IDW discussion>Anime out of nowhereHmm
>>150184715>>150184742>1 minute apart>terrible spellingstill don't know what your loud house art means, or your english
>>150184704>The mind of an adult sonic and jet fag is a mystery to the adult worldFixed
>>150184744>>150184757Why are you talking to yourself?
>>150184760are you gonna tell me what your loud house art means or just gonna post more saved art you have of the other sonic cast crying, again?
>>150184777Why are you talking to yourself?
>samefag calling others samefaglol
>>150184795I don't think you know what that phrase actually means do you.
>>150184816>Samefag just called samefags calling samefag
>>150184846Why are you talking to yourself?
>>150184564You’re part of the problem you pussy gay redditor.
Wow, this is actually somehow worse than /sthg/. Now I remember why I stopped using this board years ago.
>>150184665True, I may not like how Shadow is written at times in this comic, but man, it gets to a point ya know?
>>150178041>Lunar is not trans, it is a cybernetic memetic AI entity that possesses people through those masks.Huh, that line in Tangle and Whisper was foreshadowing...
>>150185025Sonic fans are lost souls, all of them. But Shadow fans are the most lost. I Hope they keep using him until his frequent appearances are the norm and people will stop bitching about him and making him look like an enemy. Also Shadow > Jet
>>150178223I sat my ass down and read this comic for Surge and Kit, now with how the comic is going I think I'm just going to not read any of it until they show up again because good god is this just boring as fuck to read (again).Also I miss Blaze.
>writer hasn't revealed yet why Lunar doesn't know what is going on>anons declaring with authority what it isHave some patience
>>150182354>Is this true?why would you ask this here, why would you think anyone would actually know and not just be talking out of their ass
