https://www.threads.com/@jamesgunn/post/DOJbSlbkfyR
>>150184290Nice.Also a superhero sequel not taking longer than 5 years nowadays, impressive.
>>150184290>Power suit Lex>Not mad scientist jumpsuit Lex
>>150184290Superman gets a sequel 2 years out while The Batman has to wait 5+ years?and The Batman grossed almost $800mil??
>>150184339kek
>>150184352Supes' good reception and it being the cornerstone of a newly born franchise gives it a priority spot. The Batman got caught amongst WB regime changes, and given it's more auteur-driven nature, they probably allowed Reeves to take his time.
>>150184352Because Matt Reeves writing process is really really autisticHe doesn't write a first draft, the do his edits on the second draft. He writes a script and edits it as he's writing it.
>>150184339has Lex ever used a power suit in any of the movies?
>>150184352Gunn writes his slop fast and people eat it up
>Man of Tomorrow Snyder fucking won. Gunfags can eat supershit.
>>150184405>Supes' good reception and it being the cornerstone of a newly born franchise gives it a priority spot.No, being written by the CEO gives it a priority slot. This is why all the Suicide Squad spinoffs was being made first too.
>>150184290JUST IN TIME FOR INJUSTICE 3
>>150184468Cope
>>150184431To be fair he’s never worn the jumpsuit either
>>150184468Peacemaker S1 was made and released before Gunn was apointed as studiohead
>>150184439Why am I not allowed to like something? I like James Gunn's writing. I like his directing. I've been a fan since Tromeo + Juliet changed my life. If you don't, whatever. Go like something else somewhere else.
>>150184290how come Lex makes the most advanced tech on earth but Batman gets the "smartest man alive" title by making grappling hooks and cars that Bane can fold in half?
>>150184431It was in the finale of the CW Superman show, but it was pretty much a shitty Iron Man suit
>>150184520Batman isn't the smartest man alive. He's not even the best detective. Detective Chimp is a way better detective than Batman.
>>150184520no one likes lex in universe
>>150184290Why did James Gunn become allergic to subtitles in 2024? Just call it Superman 2
I'm so excitedI hope Supergirl has a major role
>>150184520Isn’t it usually implied that Mr. Terrific is the smartest man alive, since he came up with the rankings and other characters believe that he intentionally places himself lower than he deserves?
>>150184290SuperCHADS, we are back!
I hope Steel is in this
>Man of Tomorrow>battle suit Lex>Brainiac was developed for first movie>Gunn kept saying "its not exactly Superman 2 / sorta sequel". Comes one year after 'Supergirl'Thoughts? We getting a Kal & Kara vs Lex & Brainiac? A tease of the Legion?
>>150184498Right, and season 2 got fast tracked after he took over DC.
>>150184648My fanfiction is that right before Brainiac gets destroyed he gives Lex the plans to Solaris
>>150184519You can like it, but just like with Snyderbots you can't admit the flaws.
>>150184648I won’t be surprise if Braniac gets teased in Supergirl before making his full debut here.
A Superman sequel? We truly are in the end times.
>>150184290teamup against brainiac?
>>150184696What if it's like that one STAS episode, only instead of the collector its Brainiac hiring Lobo to retrieve Kara for his collection? Maybe Man of Tomorrow is how the Fortress of Solitude gets the alien zoo and Kandor
>>150184690There's flaws, sure, but he's still a net positive as a director generally. At the very least he's competent and knows how to write shit that general audiences will enjoy.
>>150184520Yeah I don't like when he's pushed as one of the smartest men in the world because that's pure batwank. I much prefer the more conventional jack of all trades, master of none but maybe detective work.
>>150184290Heard that Snyderbots? That’s the death bell for any chance of Sneeder returning. It’s over.
From Nicholas Hoult's page
Snyderbros... It's over
>>150184819I thought that was Rebel Moon utterly tanking
>>150184732That all seems likely. I’m curious if Braniac will be a Coluan or if they’ll go the STAS route and use the Kryptonian AI origin.
From David Corenswet's page
>>150184726>final battle against Braniac>Braniac about to deliver the killing blow>Lex opens a portal >”BIZARRO COME TO SAVE THE DAY”
>>150184339One does not necessarily preclude the other
>>150184819Still won't pass Man of Steel's box office.Hell Gunnslop will never pass Josstice League either.
>>150184841>>150184862>I can eventually get a Hot Toy of Hoult Lex in power armorHell yeah. Looking forward to it
>>150184895If anything one requires the other. Can’t make a power suit without being a mad scientist.
>>150184352>The Batman has to wait 5+ years?IT doesn't have to, Reeves is just a lazy fuck.
>>150184845They've already won and you don't even know it.
>>150184912No Sequel?
>>150184845It was over for Snyder the Monday after Batman v. Superman came out.
Screencap this>Lex Luthor is asked by the US government to be a consultant on the Brainiac problem>Superman begrudgingly works with Lex. >Kara and Steel are in the movie to>Brainiac is defeated, the world is saved, but during the climax Lex shows his true colors and almost kills every occupant on Brainiac's ship. Lex is stopped but no one knows the truth except the heroes>Lex is given a full pardon and gets his company back for having a hand in saving the world, he's now untouchable thanks to optics and government backing>Lex also, unbeknownst to the US government, now has Brainiac tech at his disposal >Stinger is that Lex is standing inside The Hall of Doom, newly constructed and built using this tech
>>150184949Seriously. How hard is it to loosely adapt a story from Dark Victory/LotDK/Year 3? It's not. Nolan did it in three years, and it's the best comic film of all time. I used to think Reeves was a perfectionist, but Gunn is proving he's lazy.>>150184862Kino
>>150184978Maybe Lex and Superman reluctantly team up because Brainiac is a worse alien. Bonus points if Lex originally works with Brainiac then realizes he's being used as a tool.
>>150184949>>150185003Wasn't there a rumor that he or someone close to him was dealing with bad health problems?
>>150185050There were, but nothing was ever proven.
why doesnt his suit have a helmet? Shrapnel, debris, or an unlucky angle when being punched around could seriously injure him or kill him. Is Lex stupid? Also it would look cooler.
>>150184439>Gunn writes his slop fastIt's called autism, his autism makes him write prime Stephen King level fast.
>>150185154It's usually protected by a field
>>150185166It's not autism. He writes for market. Autism is what keeps writers and creators from putting anything out because they're scared.
>>150184478Superman barely broke even. It didn't even beat Man of Steel if you adjust for inflation.
>>150184290>thinking theaters are going to last another 2 years
>>150184912if it makes a profit for WB and the movie is good who gives a shit if it surpasses Aquaman on China
>>150184680Peacemaker s2 was announced beore he was part of DC studios
>>150184290>https://deadline.com/2013/06/man-of-steel-sequel-underway-with-zack-snyder-and-david-s-goyer-517621/>June 10, 2013 5:40pm>I’ve learned it’s official: Warner Bros Pictures is fast-tracking the Superman reboot sequel with its successful twosome already in place: Zack Snyder reprising as director and David S. Goyer repeating as screenwriter.>2013 was 40 years ago
>>150184957BvS was the sequel, also fastracked slop before you accuse me of being indian
>>150184339What do you think he wears under the power suit?
>>150185451If 670m wasn't considered profitable for a Superman film 10 years ago, 610m certainly isn't now
>>150184290Lex wear a big buff impenetrable power armor after what the prison guards did to him.
>>150184520>Batman gets the "smartest man alive" titleHe doesn't, he gets the "World's Best Detective" title, Bruce is at best, the second smartest guy, Lex has been consistently written as the smartest one.
>>150184862>>150184290These imply a teamup.>>150184841These imply a fight.But the question is, which comes first?
>>150185528Different theater landscape. MoS released the same year a film as mediocre as Thor 2 could be succesful.
>>150185557First they team up against Brainiac, then they fight.
>>150184352Gunn is a fucking workhorse, man. In the 2020s, he's cranked out The Suicide Squad, 2 seasons of Peacemaker, Guardians 3, a Guardians christmas special, filmed the Guardians actors for a ride, Superman, wrote Creature Commandos, and did some writing on Coyote vs. Acme.Regardless of how you feel about his movies, it's easy to see how he'd be placed in charge of a studio in the age where it now takes like 3 years for a streaming show to get a second season.
>>150184290they need to get rid of that fugly superman suit
>>150184290>Twist being the subtitle is about Lex
>>150185621A workhorse or a hack who cranks out slop quickly
>>150185634Why is Kate Bishop supporting DC?
>>150185685Whereas Feige makes kino, right?>>150185720She's changing sides.
Replace Darkseid with The Centre and this is what Gunn's Chapter 1 is building up to:https://youtu.be/QaujYj2M4NU?si=ewVQot7QQMxcnNRE
>>150185633I do find it funny how the armor looks like how it does in the comic, but Superman has that very obvious movie-style suit.My guess is that they probably haven't finalized the design of Lex's power armor in live action, and this is basically just concept art, but I can't imagine it looking that much different anyways if they're willing to show these.
>>150184819snyder wasn't gonna return either way lmao, i don't get the thought process that if this one failed then they would get snyder back, that's like thinking they'd get michael keaton back if the nolan trilogy failed 20 years ago
>>150185797Studios are not above that line of reasoning, see how Paramount is reportedly bringing Bay back for TF.
>>150185770the only way i could see the power armor looking different is if it looks like the hammer of boravia armor desu outside of that gunn probably already likes the comics design enough
>>150185797>>150185828because they think Snyder was on the level of Michael Bay lmaoDude went to Netflix and killer his career down there
>>150185797warned canned justice league 2 not because of snyder, because half the cast in the knightmare plot is black listed (cyborg, flash, mera) then the bad reputation of leto's joker, plus the original set up was the legion of doom vs the justice league but post shazam movies killed any chance to film it (aquaman2 wonder woman 2 and shazam2 and black adam) gunn is somehow right about dwayne killing the snyder cut continuity (cavill)
>>150185634/thread
>>150184334And yet Batman 2 wont start shooting until next year, KEK.
>>150184352I'm sure they wanted another Batman movie by now, but I guess the script still isn't done. I don't know if Matt Reeves writes really slow and does a lot of drafts, or if he's been doing other movies all this time or what.
>>150184352Reeves takes his time and WB can only cope its why he gave them The Penguin
>>150184467>Snyder fucking won>snyderverse is dead>aotd is dead>rebel moon is dead >tanked himself forever with BvS (pure garbage)how? snyder lost so hard its not even funny
>>150184467>Snyder won, because Gunn took the title he wanted for a sequel for himself.Damn, what next? Gunn fucks his wife, and snyderkeks will also convince themselves it's a win for them?
>>150185887It's actually somewhat astounding that Snyder still has rabid fans. Do they just pretend Army and Rebel Moon didn't happen?And it's not like he's going to escape the Netflix hole after he's fallen into it. Adam Sandler has been in there for a decade, and not even Happy Gilmore 2 got a theatrical release.
>>150184519> I've been a fan since Tromeo + Juliet changed my life.How?
>>150186373Snydertards don't watch anything made by the guy that isn't DC
>>150184590That's unironically what he says in the new movie - "I'm only third place because I'm running laps around the other two"
>>150185154Ego and vanity. He needs Superman to see him when he wins
B-b-but snyderbros told me Superman was a flop...
>>150184290I guess the implication of superman holding that screwdriver in the art is that he's working with Lex, so I hope the movie just stays that way and its not a "they work together for a threat and then fight each other at the end".I like the storylines where Lex is just part of the good guys temporarily without a turn
>>150186373>Adam Sandler has been in there for a decade, and not even Happy Gilmore 2 got a theatrical release.The difference is Sandler doesn't give a shit about movie theaters. He just wants to make lowest common denominator slop for the masses, and those people don't go to theaters anymore. Comedy in general has no place in movie theaters these days.
>>150185838>>150185770I imagine it'll be a kitbash of the Raptor Guard suits from the first movie so it can be a practical effect. Who knows, we might get a comic accurate Lex suit
>>150184845We just need to rally support and we can get WB to bring back the Snyderverse.
>>150186477The two loose screws at Lex’s feet make me think that Superman just pranked him.
>>150185621All of his movies revolve around a gang of quirky misfits who come to terms with their flaws by the end of the movie/show. I like his stuff, but his ideas are pretty stale at this point.
>>150184352100% on Reeves. Any other director would have given you the sequel by 2023 at the latest. Gunn, love him or hate him, is productive. He will get you a film and show done in time.
>>150184845if you ignore the shizo wars, gunn still can hire him, both made a meme segment in rick and morty.
>>150186532I would say that’s true except Superman did make it better by having the quirky gang be the side cast. Superman is mainly on his own with his family, and even when he teams up with others by the end, he fights his battles himself.
>>150186480Naked Gun just had a pretty respectable theatrical run for a comedy in the current landscape.
>Peacemaker>Creature Commandos>Superman>Supergirl>Lanterns>Clayface>Man of TomorrowWeird DCU so far but okay
>>150186625wonder woman too but yeah trinity focused + green lantern
>>150184978So I assume in this theoretical scenario, Lex would either go around the DCU recruiting bad guys for his Legion.
>>150186625Good, superhero movies shouldn't feel like scheduled product releases, just make good shit
>>150186477>>150184862>>150185557Its both. They fight, team up, then maybe Lex betrays Supes and fights him again.That being said, it’s on Lex’s best interest to save the world alongside Superman even if it breaks his ego. His reputation is on the gutter and he needs something big to get off this awful spot he’s in, no matter how much he hates Superman. And we know he’s gotta get away with crime if he’s ever meant to be a supervillain mainstay of the DC universe.
>>150185493It's a spin off you dumbass.
>>150184648I think it's going to either a Superman and Lex team-up movie or a Lex Luthor focused movie.
>>150186709>>150185493BVS was the sequel glad it killed snyder career
>>150186700I mean, unless Lex gets Lexor, I think saving the world is always on his best interest, considering he lives there.
>>150186625The time to do>Superman>Batman>Wonder Woman>The Flash>Justice LeagueAs your slate of films would've been 10 years ago. Getting weird with it and just making what feels right at the time is the right choice at the moment to keep things interesting.>>150186691What the fuck is Punchline doing there?
>>150186667>wonder woman too>trinity focusedBatman and Wonder Woman haven't even been cast yet, sure they're probably gonna show up at some point, but right now the DCU is just Superman & Friends.
>>150186745Well he opened a rift that almost destroyed the planet just to spite Superman, so his idea of a “safe world” is him living comfortably wherever as long as Superman is dead.
>>150186710It’s not a coincidence that “Man of Tomorrow” could refer to either Superman or Lex. Or to the Legion.
>>150186747>What the fuck is Punchline doing there?Subbing for Joker.
>>150186781i say this because zaslav told gunn to make diana a priority. A script is being written right now
>>150186709It directly follows up the events of Man Of Steel with the main cast returning and kills off Superman by the end of it. Thats not a fucking spin-off.
>>150185828Thing is, Bay had way bigger hits than Snyder.
Man of tomorrow refers to the legion Take this leak with a grain of salt
>>150186744You fools don't understand. It was always the plan for BvS to the sequel. That makes it all the more sensible for BvS to feature Clark just now learning about the famous vigilante who's been working for 20+ years and lives in the next town over.
>>150184590>>150186426No one believes a D-lister like Mr. Terrific is the smartest.
>>150186853I do :)
>>150186625Also technically some of Blue Beetle I guess.
>>150186843Not sure we need the legion right now. Just use superheroes and villains from the present to team up against Brainiac.
>>150186843>The Batman will officially become part of the DCUStop already.
>>150186821I like to think that Zaslav didn't even watch or read about Gunn's presentation and just now freaked out when he finally learned that he wanted to make an HBO show about Amazons without Wonder Woman.
>Supergirl and Clayface next year>Man of Tomorrow in twoDCU off to a really great start already
>>150186843>Zaslav wants to avoid July releases>Superman 2 releases July 2027Sure is believable
>>150186850not true original superman sequel was metallo+lex (eisenberg)warner ALWAYS wanted a cinematic universe, the difference is gunn started from 0, meanwhile snyder tried to change everything he did in man of of steel because it was originally a stand-alone trilogy.the most notorious change is the fights slowing down in BvS and justice league compared to man of steel
>>150186918Getting a Clayface movie before Batman is just weird. I’m sure it will be good but it’s an awkward idea right now. Like Creature Commandos starting off the DCEU when you can tell it was a leftover from the old DC universe plastered on the new one just because.
>>150186943It is weird, but I do like the idea of setting up some of Batman's world before properly introducing Batman.
>>150186998Batman doesn't need setup. He's Batman. Everyone knows who Batman is.
>>150187010Superman doesn’t either. But imagine if we got a Metallo movie before Superman 2025.
>>150187010Okay I lied I just like Clayface.
>>150186943if you cannot use batman because reeves needs to release part 2 kinda makes sense. Specially if its cheap and horror is selling well these days.
My guess, it's going to end up with Lex (at least to the public) saving the day and letting him leverage it into a presidential campaign.Then when he's the President he does the whole 'outlawing superheroes' thing since Gunn wants to do New Frontier.
>>150187019Would be kino but you guys aren't ready for that conversation yet.
>>150187019>imagine if we got a Metallo movie before Superman 2025That would have sucked. Superman 2025 was perfect in its execution of introducing the world. Don't mistake this for me saying it is a perfect film.>>150187038That's fair. I hope he's an actual clay monster and it isn't some weird metaphor or cop-out.
so uhhhh....whatever happened to the authority movie
>>150186821I need them to make DCU Batman a priority instead because I can't stand this shit of people asking for Pattinson's The Batman to be merged into the DCU.
>>150187074Gunn cannot make it work , got an script and it was bad. If we go by leaks Supes 25 had lots of authority characters and only Enginner surrvived.
>>150184290>July 9, 2027July this year was not the ideal time for this year's Superman movie and July won't be in 2027 either. I appreciate that a Star War's movie could be sucking up Memorial Day and that the Mile's cartoon, Shrek and the live action sequel to HTTYD are in June but one of those will likely move or be so rushed as to have issues. Also, even Shrek has an upper limit and unless Gunn plans to make this sequel FAR more family friendly than Superman was, Shrek shouldn't be viewed as any more competition than First Step or Thunderbolts were, or the two animated movies this year, Elio and Smurfs, both of which turned out to be weak sauce.Sadly, Miles star turn probably will make as much if not more money as last years film, assuming it's completed on time. But Shrek Forever After and most of the other Shrek films are not really box office competition:https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Shrek#tab=summaryAlso, a Shawn Levy directed original SW film, The Fall Guy (which was a fun great movie) and Blade Runner 2049 didn't make much money, and no one else in that cast is a guarantee that this film will suck all the oxygen out of the 2027 summer for WB to not consider releasing this in June (or even in the March date that WB already has penciled out for a "WB Event Film."BvS already proved that a March film based on DC characters could make multiples of millions for WB and other movies have done well in March.
>>150187066Creature Commandos already had a Clayface that's a shapeshifting clay monster, so I think we're safe.
>>150186709For what i understand, a Batman vs Superman movie was a project Warned tried to do for over 20 years. After Man of Steel, they were early plans for a direct sequel but ultimately they went with Batman v Superman instead.Warner pushing for Batman in the superman sequel was rough, but a lot of the weird ideas in the movie were pushed by Zack himself
>>150184352It's easier to make a bad movie than a good movie.
But the movie is a huge flop overseas. Even worse than F4. Why make a sequel at all?
>>150187146>BvS already proved that a March film based on DC characters could make multiples of millions for WB and other movies have done well in March.BvS fucking cratered on week 2. It's not going to be used as a model. Deadpool being a hit in February is much more of a success story.
>>150186396Because it changed my view on what a movie can be. I absorbed it around the same time I first saw the Doom Generation and both were formative films for me.
>>150187205Because it wasn't a flop overall.Also Superman is cool and I personally asked them to make more movies.
As a huge Superfag I am sooo happyWe're finally free of Batwank
>>150184768The problem with ANY director doing their own scripts is that is a tunnel to start with and never changes. Directors working from a script they wrote (and ONLY they did the writing on their own scripts, not putting a final polish on other's people's script, or co-writing a script with one or more writers, or re-writing a script with one or more writers - which is what, for example Ryan Reynolds is often doing - and Ryan is NOT directing any of these scripts for that matter), these films only really work when the director gets notes and ideas from the producers and studio suits and others. Christopher Nolan got to do The Prestige and Inception and Interstellar, etc., with few notes from WB because that's how the WB suits work with their prestige directors; that's not what Universal did with Oppenheimer and Nolan finally won that Oscar he so desperately wanted. Also, Nolan had his brother and his wife as producer. Gunn only has Safran, at most, and maybe some of his friends and his wife chime in here and there, but it's not the same thing.So all his flaws are right there to see. There's a big difference between Superman and GoTG2 and GoTG3, and that's probably on Feige and the rest of the producers, plus the Disney/Marvel suits. We're not getting that with Superman I or now this sequel.
>>1501872682027 is also the year of The Batman 2
>>150187141Leakers thought that justice gang was authority because they used code names for them and the leakers guessed wrong. It's why you always should doubt them, they headcanon shit all the time, even when they have actual sources,
>>150187205Box office environment is changing. Now that China isn't the goldmine for Hollywood anymore, domestic numbers are actually important again. Superman did great in the US.
>>150187276Not part of DCU so who cares? I also think the movie will bomb bigly because the momentum is lost.
>>150187312>China isn't the goldmine for Hollywood anymoreBoy that was a weird time period.
>>150187205because it make them money?
>>150187339barely
>>150187290..but engineer is part of 25?
>>150187354says you They greenlight the sequel for a reason
>>150187377Zaslav will shelve this project if Supergirl bombs as well. And she will, because superhero movies starring women are constantly flopping. Especially now that the woke era is coming to an end.
>>150187417What cope will you come up with when they greenlight Superman 3 in two years?
>>150187377They also announced Muschietti's Batman on the opening weekend of The Flash and we've heard nothing about it since
>>150187417Fuck you, we're getting Lobo.
>>150187333It's crazy how we're not even far removed from big hollywood movies being co-productions with Tencent, like Warcraft and Venom.
>>150184290That's nice. Hopefully it turns out better than Batman v. Superman, that god-awful piece of trash.
>>150187458i mean this sounds like a greenlight to mehttps://deadline.com/2025/08/the-batman-part-ii-start-date-superman-sequel-1236480458/directly from the CEO and ready to film next
>>150186625why the fuck is clayface getting his own movie? Do they think what sony did with spidermans villaisn was a good idea?
>>150187205>But the movie is a huge flop overseasAn american icon did great in the US, and that's what matters most.
>>150187573Batman's villains are actually interesting unlike Spider-Man's.
>>150187573>why the fuck is clayface getting his own movie?The horror genre is consistently profitable. And Clayface will be a mid-budget horror movie with some potential Batman tease.
>>150187573horror and cheap
>>150184290The DCU desperately needs an update for their Batman and Wonder Woman because holy shit.
>>150184352The batcuck cope in the replies is insane
>>150187573A horror director came in with a script and since horror is cheap (compared to most superhero fare) it was easy to get off the ground.
>>150184467
>>150187573Same reason the Joker was a runaway success, they're trying out low budget shit and taking a gamble.
>>150187253It performed far worse than its predecessors which were labeled as flops.
>>150187592>Batman's villains are actually interestingPlease, nobody cares about fucking Clayface
>>150187602I guess I could see that working. Would be intresting if they frame as a typical villain introduction episode but expanded into a movie and from the pov of both victims and clayface while Bats is solving the case in the background.
>>150187645They greenlit a sequel just to piss off Snyder autists. Because watching Snyder autists cope, seethe, and cry will never not be hilarious.
>>150187674I guess we'll see. I bet the film does well.
>>150187642Joker is a popular character that who has been in the public consciousness for decades; Clayface is not.
>>150187205Sunk cost fallacy
>>150187645Superhero movie climate was different back then.Also, it performed good in the home market and with China money drying up that's a good sign.
>>150187674That's how I felt until Rebirth Detective Comics.
>>150187723This, they were going to do a sequel even if only grossed 400 million. The Suicide Squad is still getting content after flopping in theaters
>>150187674Me. I care
>>150187564Half of Gunn's announced slate from 2023 is already cancelled. I'l believe it when principal photography starts
>>150187700That's why it's a low budget gamble, people eat up horror shit
>>150187760>Half of Gunn's announced slate from 2023 is already cancelledOnly Authority, because let's face it, announcing it in the first place was a stupid idea.
>>150187760Yeah i think that thin slate is long gone and zaslav told gunn to get his shit together waller is never getting the greenlight but booster gold will because its being done by the flag means death guy
>>150187838>the flag means death guyOh no, he's going to turn Booster and Beetle into fags, isn't he?
>>150187794What about Sgt. Rock?
>>150187247This is the problem with the way zoomies argue on xshitter and the interwebz.Y'all have no critical thinking skills.No one ever taught you how to write a proper essay, you were using Chat GPT tier 'modern tools' and cut and pasting wikipedia even before AI was a real public thing.You also even stupidly argue against your own imbecilic point >Deadpool being a hit in FebruaryI used BvS as an example of a DC film. If I had used Deadpool or Black Panther, you idiots would scream "MCU" I could have used The Batman, since it is a DC release and also was March, but The Batman in 2022 was hurt by some lingering COVID and lockdown issues, as well as the same DCEU problems that hurt everything else DC related released in some markets so I picked BvS. The actual content, script, actors, etc. or their impact on the LEGS aren't the point, which you would understand if you could understand logic, zoomie.
>>150187927>What about Sgt. Rock?Ngl I'd rather see that than the Boys-esque movie with gay Superman or another fucking Batman movie.
I’ve got a great idea for this sequel: Doomsday should kill Superman to set the stage for a Justice League movie.
>>150184290Gunn has no idea what he's doing and has no plan or roadmap. He should just ditch the DCU and make DC Studios a Elseworlds movie machine. Everyone gets what they want.
>>150187927>Sgt. RockMaybe it'll be another horror gamble. He fights nazi zombies or something.
>>150187205600 million dollars worldwide vs 500 million that F4 did. More money means good news.
>>150188066>600 million vs 500 millionThe difference is not that big tho.
>>150184290Didn't Superman effortlessly take down a lot of guys in green and purple armor though? How is it supposed to be any better with Lex?
>>150184520batman isn't even smarter than the riddler.
>>150188170Hi Eddie
>>150188091Both could've made some 50-100 mill more if Disney wasn't retarded and delayed FF. Blade's former spot was right there.
>>150188170Get off the computer Nygma.
>>150187838>thin slate>>150187760>Half of Gunn's announced slateNot to defend Gunn, since he's an idiot, but BS:They announced 5 TV (eventually 7), only Blue Beetle has no real news; 2 have been produced/released, 1 is in production (Lanterns), leaving Booster and Waller. Neither is 'already cancelled' by Gunn or Zaslav. Davis, for example, is still under contract and people are working and being paid for a treatment and scripts for Booster. Penguin is counted as 1 of the 7 but isn't a Gods + Monsters.5 Movies were announced; Paradise Lost was never a WW movie and was meant to be TV show; they are still working on it (which means folks are being paid for scripts, etc.); Clayface was added, is in production. It and a WW movie (one thing Zaslav added) and Sgt. Rock was added, like Clayface, after a script was approved, they've paid for Sgt. Rock script, all they need is a star and a director. It hasn't been "cancelled." Of the 5 original movies, the only thing that's likely not happening at the moment is The Authority since it has no script AFAIK, not even a treatment. Swamp Thing has a script that's being re-worked. Supergirl is filming and Brave and the Bold has people being paid and Muschietti (sp?) is under contract and considers it his next project, after the IT mini series or the horror films that he's working on for Sundance (Paramount); once he finishes that Sundance horror, he's got nothing going on, so you can bet your ass he's going to want to start pre-production or other work on Batman and Robin. It's certainly not cancelled but probably won't release until after 2028 or well after Batpatinson II.
>>150186843>Booster Will be younger than most people expectPlease fuck be real. I’m dropping this whole universe if Kumail Nanjiani is Booster.>The Reach are set to be the big villains of chapter one lol, the main threats gonna be the villain of one of the DCEU stragglers. It’s like Gunn is trying to make this universe as much of a mess as possible
>>150187760>Half of Gunn's announced slate from 2023 is already cancelled.https://variety.com/2023/film/news/dc-universe-superman-legacy-batman-green-lantern-supergirl-booster-gold-1235507426/>Supermanreleased>Authoritydead>Brave and the Boldbeing written>Supergirlfinished filming>Swamp Thingbeing written, mangold needs to decide if he wants to film this or star wars first>Creature Commandosreleased>Wallergot fucked by the strikes, being rewritten to follow peacemaker s2>Lanternsfinished filming>Paradise Lostno news, probably dead>Booster Goldstill being made, got a new showrunner
>>150188224>>150188188character dynamics > batwankthe character who beats the unbalanced narcissist with a clear mind and sound deduction also just being smarter in general is redundant.
>>150188318>mangold needs to decide if he wants to film this or star wars firstWhat's there to decide? SW is dead while the future of the DCU looks promising.
>>150188321That’s just getting into the weeds on what it means to be “smart.” Which to be fair, is unavoidable given how cape comics treat intelligence.
Have they STILL not cast Batman yet? Last I checked, they didn't even have a clear vision for what they wanted him to be.
>>150188442>Have they STILL not cast Batman yet?Robert Pattinson.
>>150188483It's already clear that they're not using that continuity for the Justice League stuff.
>>150184290It seems like a Lex movie
>>150184290Superman looks like Bugs Bunny here
>>150184467Snyder has been irrelevant for like 8 yrs and the entirety of that universe is dead.
>another pedo slop movieNot watching
>>150188527I’m confused, does this board hate pedos or is it inhabited by pedos
do you want to hear something funny?rebel moon
>>150188442I think they're stalling until some specific occasion they planned for because of the batman 2. There's so much gotham lore shit leaking from the clayface sets, there's no way they still don't know what they want to do with it.
>>150188537It's inhabited by self-hating pedos
>>150184290>Capeshi pedoNo, thanks fag
>>150184290>another Superman movie before the new Wonder Woman and Batman, and before a JLA crossoverI'm starting to believe in the people who said that Goon wouldn't end up making a universe and only be allowed to use the Superman IP and some other minor characters, yup this isn't moving past Supergirl.
>>150184352Flopping is the new punk rock.
>>150185633they need to recast that fugly superjew actor
>>150186800>>150186745>>150186700Remember that Lex came to terms with clark during the final crisis and when he became superman in new52.Gunn may finally use the smallville backstory where lex hates clark because they were once friends.Lex will hate that Clark never told him that he had superpowers and that they could be changing the world with his intellect and clark's charisma.in fact, does someone have the one shot of the crisis that came recently with lex not wanting to admit that he needs superman in his life?
>>150188188>>150188224To be fair Riddler owned Batman a few times and he isn't the only one, Jason Todd did it too (twice to be precise).
>>150184519>I like James Gunn's writing.How? HOW? Listening to Superman and Lois bicker in the mock interview for 10 minutes was so fucking painful I turned the movie off.
Hopefully Gunn lets someone else direct it but that ego-maniac probably won't do it
>>150188713He's letting other people do everything outside of Peacemaker and Superman.
>>150188666>Gunn may finally use the smallville backstory where lex hates clark because they were once friends.I don't think they were friends in Gunn's DCU.
>>150185003>How hard is it to loosely adapt a story from Dark Victory/LotDK/Year 3? It's not.it's not but a screen writer would rather die than adapt a comic book
>>150188495I meant that Robert Pattinson is going to play the Batman of the DCU as well as the Batman from the Reevesverse.
>>150188250>>150188318Making the Brave and the Bold when there already is a Batman film series is retarded, especially since Reeves' Batman is far more successful than anything Gunn has made for DC.
>>150189061>far more successfulBarely. Yes, Penguin was a critical darling, but it didn't even crack the Nielsen Top 10. And Superman did much better domestically than Batman.
>>150188666>>150188792It would seem that Lex only knows Clark so far as knowing that he's the reporter that gets the most interviews with Superman, going by what he says while Supes is imprisoned.>>150188890>>150189061Reeves is an autist that doesn't want anything supernatural touching his Nolanbats knockoff, and so far his stuff is just successful enough that capitulating to him is worthwhile. It's not good in the long term, though. You can't just wait for his series to be finished before putting Batman in your big crossover filled DC movie universe. What is this, the CW?
>>150184648Considering that it's called "Man of Tomorrow", seems a safe bet it will focus on Superman and Lex. Probably end up with them teaming up.
>>150184884Yes please, "Ultraman" already was like 80% Bizarro, just call him that, give him backwards powers and you got DCU Bizarro.
>>15018809120% is a pretty huge difference.
>>150188360Apparently he's always wanted to do a Star Wars film, one of his dream projects.
>>150188442I personally suspect he's been cast and will cameo in Clayface but they're keeping it quiet.They can probably get 100 million just off a Batman cameo which is enough to turn a profit on Clayface if they really keep it low budget.
>Superman II before Batman 2 and Secret WarsGunn might as well play The Flash at this point with how much he's done in the 2020s
>>150185621Gunn is about quantity over quality. It doesn't take much thought or effort for him to spew out his slop.
>>150189555As compared to the usual Marvel schtick like Brave New World or kino like Joker 2?
>Here's your DCU Braniac bro
>>150188703That's the real punk rock.
>>150189610Unironically great choice, High Evolutionary was a kino villain.
>>150184519>>150188703I like some of his writing, but it always goes a level too far that makes me roll my eyes. Good example was the recent episode of Peacemaker where his wife calls a guy in a store "Beaker." That was fine, but then he had to explain the joke and continue it on. Same with the ARGUS grunts bickering. It's like he writes a few extra lines per joke and it always kills them.
>>150184290LMAO The villains just always going to be Luthor
The Justice Guild should've leaned more towards Justice League International.Martian Manhunter instead of Mr Terrific.Black Canary instead of Hawkgirl.Keep Guy Gardner.Blue Beetle and Booster Gold are coming via the shows.
>>150184352I pray The Batman takes longer to come out, I dont want to see Gunns awful take on Batman
>>150189849I actually wouldn't be surprised if the DCU Justice League movie goes straight into Unlimited or International where it's a large scale organization instead of the standard seven group.
>>150188537Take a wild guess
>>150189744I don't think Superman had this problem, the humor was way more toned down and it was more focused on the plot so it didn't have time to run the jokes to the ground.
>>150189914Sounds like something James Gunn would do. He's better when writing groups over individuals.
I fucking hope this somehow ends with SupLex. I want that suit in live action.
>>150188537The word is watered down to another generic insult so both.
>>150189935True and I did quite enjoy Superman.
>>150188360Superhero films are also dead, mate.
>>150186117To put things into perspective, between the release of The Batman (March 4, 2022) and the current planned release of The Batman: Part II (October 1, 2027), James Gunn would have released the following projects, all of which he wrote entirely and produced, and most of which he also directed (the exception being some episodes of Peacemaker and all episodes of Creature Commandos):>Three movies - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, Superman, Man of Tomorrow>One television special - The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special>At least two (possibly more) seasons of television - Creature Commandos Season 1, Peacemaker Season 2He would also have produced:>At least three more movies - Supergirl, Coyote vs. Acme, Clayface>At least one extra season of television - LanternsAll while becoming the head of an entire studio, and still having the time to respond to random comments on social media.
>>150190471He probably uses drugs.
>Superman sequel already>still nothing on Batman nor Wonder WomanThey should really get on that.
>>150189849Martian Manhunter muddies up the plot point of Lex hating Superman for being an alien, why does he go after Supes so hard but not a green alien with red eyes named "human hunter" Black Canary can't fly so she messes up the group shot when they're introduced
>>150190511Gunn confirmed that a Wonder Woman (a movie, not that Paradise Lost series) was being fast tracked. Probably in time for the inevitable World's Finest movie.
>>150190471he's using AI
>>150190523Lex Luthor has a white Martian piloting a transport in his private prison pocket dimension. He doesn't actually care about aliens. He cares about aliens that people like more than they like him.
>>150190562You know, when I saw James Gunn was on Rick and Morty, I thought it would be a cameo. I didn't realize he'd be the dead ass antagonist of the episode that was designed to make fun of him and apparently put him on blast for making GotG vol 3 about Rocket Raccoon.
>>150190565>Lex Luthor has a white MartianThat wasn't a White Martian anon, he was just a random monster.
>>150184467What I like about the title is that it can equally apply to both Superman and Lex Luthor.
>>150190565Mister Handsome isn't a Martian, he's one of Luthor's experiments.
>>150190523J'onn never bothered him because he is not winning popularity contests all across the world.
Betting that in the climax of the movie, Lex will reveal he actually orchestrated everything from the very beginning, Braniac's invasion and the government pardoning hin for his cooperation, all so that he can get another chance to kill Superman.
>>150189061batman is that fucking popular that can have 2 movies happening
>>150188318>Booster GoldWhy are they so insistent on forcing characters no one gives a shit about?
>>150190471>>150190498>>150190589He's one of those directors/writers that loves to work
>>150190922Glad to see /co/ still gets new visitors from time to time.
>>150190632Oh, I thought he was a creepy ass white Martian.
>>150190922So are you a Snydershill or a Marvel Studios shill
>>150190922Gunn is a JLItard
>>150190427The MCU is dead, none of the Marvel movies that came out this year will even make it to the top ten box office since 2020, which makes Superman's BO even more impressive because it was crippled from the lack of international interest yet it still managed to surpass all three Marvel films and make $650 million mostly from its domestic audience.
>>150186500Lads who determines the designs of costumes nowadays? I mean other than what the director and the company want. VFX studios? Or do they still have dedicated artists to this stuff? Either way most of the stuff now has been just ok. Not like overly dark or dumb but I dunno stuff just kinda passes me by and I don't have any real opinion.
>>150191323DC's second most popular character beating a bunch of nobodies at the box office isn't exactly an achievement. If it was outperforming films featuring Marvel's A-listers maybe you'd have a point. Superman was released a year after Deadpool & Wolverine and didn't even make half that.
>>150186215PLUS his daughter seppukood
>>150187996Maybe it will have the Tin Man, I'd watch it for more of him
>>150191469Deadpool and Wolverine was carried by multiverse fanservice though. The Marvel films that came out this year were mostly standalone and likely won't even make it any of the top ten 2025 box office slots, this was supposed to be a glimpse at the standard they're setting after Secret Wars comes out.Superman and the DCU have the advantage of being seen as "fresher" and more novel compared to the 20 year old MCU, the fact that the movie made as much as it did without relying on nostalgia and in spite of the DC brand being thoroughly raped (literally in Joker 2's case) in the past few years gives it at least a slightly better future than post-SW MCU.
>>150191469>Marvel's A-listers
>>150184467>Snyder won because Superman is getting a standalone sequel unlike MoSI don't get it
I liked Ben but I had an easy time moving to Pattison. But for some reason I just can’t get into this Superman.
>>150190511I hope when the wonder woman movie flops it won't doom the gunnverse
The fact that DC has so little faith in SUPERMAN that they're not allowing him a solo movie is bothering me so much.
>>150192281If Gunn hires a thick thighed titty monster to be Wonder Woman then it'll be fine
>>150184339He wears the jumpsuit while in the power suit. Have you never read a Superman comic before?
>>150192320This is already set to have twice as many solo Superman films as the DCEU.
>>150192281It'll doom solo female led movies in the gunnverse.
>>150191918> Superman and the DCU have the advantage of being seen as "fresher" and more novel compared to the 20 year old MCU, the fact that the movie made as much as it did without relying on nostalgia and in spite of the DC brand being thoroughly raped (literally in Joker 2's case) in the past few years gives it at least a slightly better future than post-SW MCU.This is a retarded take. Spiderman and Avengers will make a billion next year while Supergirl will bomb. Secret Wars will make a billion next year. The MCU's Future is fine. Nobody gives a fuck about a Lex Luthor team up in 2027. Superman 2 will get raped by Avengers 2.
>>150192618>Secret Wars will make a billion next yearThe year after that though? When the multiverse storyline has ended and Marvel has to go back to making normal movies again?
>>150184290We’re really going in one big circle that led to Man of Steel’s conception in the first place. Whimsical Superman could have worked but not under Gunn whose goal is to copy mcu slop, in conjunction with his (and Safran’s) already underwhelming DC track record. Superman needed to be a sister movie to The Batman. A good looking STANDALONE product that doesn’t raise your cortisol levels from looking like capeslop.
>>150192618Superman 2 will get raped by Spiderverse and Zelda
>>150192690> Marvel has to go back to making normal movies again?They have X-men with Hugh Jackman and Spiderman. Those 2 alone are guaranteed billions. Gunn has nothing but future flops on his hands. Gunn's Wonder Woman won't make 800 million like Snyder's did. His Supergirl is going to flop. Outside of Superman which barely makes 600 million Gunn is fucked.
>>150192695A Superman/Lex teamup is standalone though?
>>150192506Promises, promises
>>150192780They're either gonna have to recast Jackman or sideline him heavily for the rebooted X-Men.
Gunn will continue to fail and Zaslav will eventually pull the plug
I don't like the idea of Superman teaming up with Lex. Killing the food truck guy crossed a line, he's unforgivable
>>150192898Superman Returns was not a failure the sequel just got in development hell which is why Gunn finished the script for this quickly
>>150184520The list that usually gets thrown around is such bullshit. If you gauge it by actual achievements/inventions/innovative thinking shown on-panel/screen the ranking would be something like1. Terrific2. Ivo/T.O. Morrow (literally created life)3. Sivana4. Brain5. The Atom (I don't care what anyone says, harnessing a white dwarf to be able to restructure your molecular makeup is fucking insanity)6. LexPretty telling that most are villains.
>>150189610He was already Murn in Peacemaker S1 (retconned to be in the DCU).
>>150192955Lex is confirmed numerous times to be the smartest by DC. Terrific doesn't even come close to having the accomplishments or impact on the overarching mythos of DC that Lex has to be considered the smartest.
>>150184290Didn’t Gunn have a bunch of shit planned before doing another Superman? This feels like something that was moved way up
>>150193717Yes.The universe is becoming the Superman & Friends Universe featuring Peacemaker
>>150193799>Superman & Friends UniverseAs it should be. It’s fucking DC. Fuck Batwank.
>>150192955Sivana should be number one but DC doesn't use him enough so he definitely loses points for that.Also Ivo and T.O. Morrow aren't that impressive, anyone can do that shit, look at Will Magnus.
If this isn't Superman 2, why is it called Man of Tomorrow? What will it actually be about?
>>150193856Lex Luthor: The Movie.
>>150193828Batwank has been the only thing holding DC together for years.
>>150193904And enough of that. Time for the Big Blue to lead.
>>150184467>>150192898>will continue to fail>Zaslav will eventually>pull the plugYou've been saying this since your Cult Leader got shown the door and started to con Netflix out of money and yet here we are, with Supergirl in post-production, plus David Coronswet and NOW also Hoult setting up personal trainer appointments.
>>150193856It's more of a Luthor movie probably.
It’s another>Thunderbolts*>* = New Avengerssituation.Man of Tomorrow** = Lex Luthor
>>150187573Spider-Man has like 3 interesting villains and one of them is just evil Spider-Man
>>150184339>>150192459It's called a "speedsuit". All the best super-scientists wear them.
Lex: "That's what YOU don't get Superman, I am the future, I AM THE MAN OF TOMORROW!"
>>150185685>A workhorse or a hack who cranks out slop quicklyHe's the only capeshit director who's consistently good in every project he makes.Dude is not a genius filmmaker, but calling him a hack is insane lmao
>>150194102Was Rusty really a genius scientist?
>>150187632So we're not getting a big transforming mud monster?
>>150194248We know he made the Oo-Ray, the Joy Can, and with Pete and Billy he made teleportation devices. Even if he couldn't figure out balding, he's still a genius.
>>150193856Legion of Superheroes?Lex Luthor film featuring Superman?The first film but now from the eyes of Krypto?
>>150184290Why does the picture give slight homo vibes. Are we getting Superboy with his 2 daddies?
People were speculating that the next Superman movie will be a team up with Supergirl, and turns out to be a team up with Lex.Kino.
>Another superman movie where the villain is either lex or zod
>>150184568Relax, it was Superman: Legacy before Gunn changed the movie to just "Superman". Its just a working titles for the production
Weren't people speculating Man of Tomorrow as the title for the MoS sequel? Feels like a subtle jab at Snyderbros
>>150192906If the art Nic Hoult shared is anything to go by, they probably won't be allied for long
>>150193717Gunn said the six year plan for the "Superman Saga" consists of four movies, the other two are speculated to be World's Finest and Justice League.>>150195060Braniac probably, like I vaguely recall Gunn saying he wanted to do Braniac and he would be a good alternative to Zod if the theme is meant to be Clark confronting his Kryptonian origins.
>>150195385I hope we continue to get Superman and friends throughout all these movies. I hate Marvel's approach where some characters just disappear. We're going to finally get the MCU X-Men after Secret Wars, but who gives a shit if they aren't interacting with Tony Stark or Steve Rogers and Thor. I hope Gunn doesn't make the same mistakes.
>>150191954Spider-Man, Avengers, and Deadpool are the MCU properties that still make money, and have made way more money than any DC movie.
Lex will sacrifice himself at the end of the movie and to honor him, Clark will write a front page article calling Lex “The Man of Tomorrow”.
>>150196359Doubt Gunn will kill Lex off so soon
>>150188537It's all projection.
>>150194554>Why does the picture give slight homo vibesLiterally every superhero with their archnemesis
>>150184290That was fast
>>150196359Clark could not write an article praising Lex after Lex shot the food stand guy
>>150193856People are speculating that lex is the main character of the DCU going forward so I'm inclined to believe he's the focus
>control + F "el steve jobs de las pelis de superheroes">31 resutlsIt really broke you, isn't?
>>150184290>imagine getting outshined by a almost 30 year old cartoon showPedo Gunns version of both Superman and Lex kinda sucked and missed the point.Gunns Superman is too weak and too effeminate because depictions of masculine and competent straight white male heroes scare liberals and Lex was overemotional and unthreatening to further push the "white men suck" narrative.
>>150198827It's amusing how these posts have shifted from clowning on the movie to palpably seething at how popular it is
>>150198827No live action version of Lex has matched the DCAU, he's peak for a reason. Hoult is still a hell of an improvement over that fucking Eisenberg embarrassment who was easily one of the worst versions to exist.
>>150198911Hoult is just clearly basing his performance on the manic and pissed off Morrison version instead of the Kojak DCAU version. Hoult even said All Star was the inspiration. It's hard not to see
>>150198842Chuds seethe. It's what they do best.
>>150198985Smallville also.
>>150198985Of course, I'm not disputing that. I like his version of Lex, he's the perfect amount of petty seething and smug threatening for the character. I just think it's a bit silly to ding him for not matching DCAU Lex.
>>150199033Yeah, I'd agree. I would have liked to see them try DCAU Lex but they nailed what they were going for. Hoult definitely wouldn't be the guy if they were trying to do DCAU, I actually think Cavill would have been a great choice if that's what they went for.
Imagine Lex trying to give Superman commands and Superman is confused.
>>150199033>>150199069DCAU Supe and Lex are much sterner characters. DCU Supe has a good two shoes "gee whiz" demeanor while Lex is more outwardly spiteful than their animated counterparts. I do think Cavill could have pulled off a more mellowed out and stern Superman like the DCAU but Corenswet is also great.
>>150199257kek
>>150190511Gunn needs to stay away from those two and WB probably knows it, The Batman 2 still needs to come out and the Penguin show is better than anything Gunn will ever write so there is some hype for it
The middle eastern guy gets resurrected but is now evil and Supe and Lex need to team up to stop him.
Nicholas Hoult's Lex was a highlight of the movie so having him have a temporary team up with Superman is great. I'm sure he'll go back to wanting to kill superman immediately after
>>150200484They won the final battle.Superman extends his hand for a handshake with Lex.Lex stabs him with a shard of Kryptonite.
>>150198842>>150198998delusional
>>150192320superman 2025 teased the whole justice gang and the antagonist is lex, this is why gunn used the "no more origin stories" excuseif you think about it, superman 2025 equivalent is dawn of justice (teased the whole justice league, antagonist was lex)
>>150193799idk why people put these up like they mean something.
