Does it have something to do with "sensory overload"? I actually find I tend to stim a lot more when I'm watching an emotionally stimulating scene in a cartoon and I have to pause it. So I would think cartoons would be less challenging to someone to sensory issues, but actually it can be more? But also more satisfying somehow?
>>150194070It's solely based off preference for me.Even if a cartoon is badly written and not fun to watch at all, the fact it's animated goes a long way when it comes to keeping me engaged.
>>150194070Live action can often fall victim to feeling boring especially when the majority of what I see advertised is dark muted boring ass colors (not that it'd make sense to look like Dr Suess, but in terms of everything trying to feel dramatic) plus the writing in live action shows is way worse about the shit people are tired of seeing crop up in cartoons.
Live action is ugly and I hate ugly things.
>>150194192>>150194254Yeah tl;dr I find live action films to usually be uninteresting and unengaging visually. Except for when it's a DC Batman Movie
>>150194070>ADHDI have major adhd and I prefer live action to animation.Now what?
>>150194326Not sure. I'm trying to figure out correlation/causation stuff. Can you explain why you prefer one or the other? Also why are you on /co/?
>>150194070Is kinda complicated, but mostly is due the simplicity of the work rather than anything else.From what I understand the sensory overload is due how they are not able to focus on something specific.Cartoons are mostly surface elements that most of the time doesn't rely on subjective elements as everything that happens is everything that you receive.Live Actions on the other hand can have more subjective elements on their narrative as the layers of what they could mean on a simple dialogue, this distracts the autist as what does it means and lay down into a spiral of what they could have meant for that and the moment they could process they have delivered more dialogue that they are not able to catch up.This mostly applies to children more than adults
>>150194326Yeah to be fair animation is usually choppier when it comes to movements and that's due to the nature of the beast. Visual art is just an illusion and is a counterfeit to the real thing.I often picture cartoons in my head with more vivid and live-action like movement but such a feat would be retardedly expensive to do in real life
I fucking hate those boring ass live action shows where absolutely nothing of note happens in the episode and the episode itself is an entire goddamn hour long
>>150194070Spergs need exaggerated and simplified facial expressions because they incapable of understanding normal human facial expressions
>>150194384>because they incapable of understanding normal human facial expressionstrve. I literally find it hard to make out people's expressions unless they display an obvious emotion like laughter or anger
>>150194365I didn't say I didn't like animation, just that i prefer live action. When I was a kid, I liked tv cartoons over TV live action, because tv toons were shorter and live tv tended to be boring, however there's a catch to that. See, I way preferred live action movies to cartoon movies because of much the same reason as the tv reason and because I was tired of disney movies.Now here's that catch: as a young boy most of my cartoons were action shows, he-man, transformers, and the like, they were cool, and 22 minutes were the right length for my patience. Conversely, live tv action shows didn't hold my attention because they were cheap me. But when it came to movies, with exceptions, the animated ones didn't hold my attention, but live action movies kept me glued. I think it was because of some I still hold to this day and I'll explain it like this: superman flying in a cartoon is expected, superman flying in "real life" is impressive. I was captivated by special effects and their magic to bring the fantastic to the real world and being a kid in the 80s with star wars and trek and superman and then batman and tmnt 1990 and the r rated stuff, like robocop and predator, I got to catch, it was a gold mine of practical effects to dazzle me. Growing up it remained much the same, except I found a greater appreciation for the tv stuff I missed, like old trek and battlestar galactica and even the non sci fi shows, and I found a love for horror movies as a teen. I liked anime for a time but left it mostly because I got tired of where the majority of it was going and the weebs were insufferable. As of today, I like animated stuff just fine, including weeb, but I'm highly selective, but as for live action stuff, I as broad as possible and will watch stuff like My Dinner With Andre as fast as I'll watch total recall.I don't what that says, but there you go.
>>150194674Sounds like a lot of what what interests you about live action is the special effects and the behind the scenes of what it takes to make the production feel "real," which I think somewhat tracks. I'm kind of like that with animation. I love learning about the art and production behind shows and movies and what it takes to make the animation feel "real."
>>150194674>>150194745I have no interest in learning anything about either, am I screwed?
>>150194829Maybe or you might be more normie than you thought
Animation is distilled more than live action, albeit usually simplier. We all remember our favorite scenes, these are usually perfected moments that other people dedicated a lot of effort towards. We subconsciously sense this and it satisfies our 'tism. We then associate all animation with this feeling even if we resort to watching generic slop searching for the same satisfying high quality moments.
>>150194745I'm as interested in the construction of a project as I am the finished work and the consumption of it. This goes for really anything, as I love to watch a painter paint, like Bob and how he talks about what he's doing, or cooking/baking, which I like to do, or writing, which I also like dabbling in, or hell, engineering or construction or trade work. I want to learn all of it and frustrates me that I can't. Don't get me wrong, though, I also like just watching a movie for the story and characters and acting. Or reading, comics or novels, although I really hate my smart phone for ruining my attention span I used to be a phenomenal reader, now I can barely focus on a sentence at a time.And my eyes are bad. Getting old sucks.
>>150194070I think that people with ADHD/autism tend to be enthusiasts of animation (and art in general) because of the nature of art being a simulacrum of reality that does its best to come across as believable and organic as possible. Art is inherently limited and simple, and it rarely needs to be complicated. Cartoons and symbols have been with humans for as long as we've been alive. In some way, they're just as primal as humans, and they've never really had to change (outside of the changes in language-culture) Autists in particular tend to enjoy being around animals because animals exhibit basic primal behavior and obvious tells in how they feel. Perhaps that is why art is so compelling to this demographic of people. It speaks to that simple primal part of us that leaves little room for ambiguity. Everything within art is for the most part, an act of order and can be plainly understood or figured out without much stress. Talking to normies, not so much.
>>150194894>Talking to normies,That reminds me, for me I can somewhat tolerate normies, but whenever they start talking about sex, and drugs casually I start to despise them
>>150194070what makes you think they don't like both?
>>150194070I like slow paced "artsy" live action just fine, it's action where I start getting confused.I remember that my friend dragged me to the frist Thor movie and I was so confused with what's going: constant quips, action scenes, some shit going on all the time. Never watched any action movie in the cinema since then.
Guess I don't have autism/ADHD because I loved The Wire.
>>150194284>>150194254I feel like more autists in this thread would benefit from watching experimental or artsy European and Asian films. I love movies myself, but I've found that the non-Hollywood variety feel a lot more comfy. Try and watch more horror films or just pulpy films in general.
>>150194070 I’m not an autist but Cartoons are simple and easy to read, so it’s gonna be more appealing to people that suffer from social retardation
>>150194070Animated shows are objectively superior most of the time, autists have good taste. The only thing animation tends to lag on is writing or the handling of mature themes. But we're getting there, people are started to realize that animation is a medium and works for adults, it's not a kid's genre.
>>150194917> but whenever they start talking about sex, and drugs casually I start to despise themI’d add social media and retarded trends/movements as well. Fortunately I've never been around any normalfags who talk about their sex or drug life, but the SM shit is really annoying
>>150194070I’m not sure why I’m so drawn to both illustration and animation but I always have been, ever since I read picture books and comics and watched cartoons as a kid. If I had to guess, I’d say it’s because it allows people to visually communicate their imaginations and there’s something compelling about that. Like in live action, you’re limited by real people playing the characters and real locations. The only way things can look exactly how you imagine is via art.Also what the hell is the context of this image? It looks like Julia is on trial for war crimes at Nuremberg.
I love the freedom of animation. You can work around the restraints of live action film and produce some beautiful results, of course, but animation just lets you go wild.
For the longest time I was afraid of watching dramas because I was afraid the subject will be too heavy for me so I mostly watched cartoons and sitcoms.Nowadays I can watch dramas no problem but I still love cartoons because of how unpretentious they are.
I'm probably just watching the wrong shows, but I feel like live-action stuff is, for lack of a better term, too normalfag-oriented? I don't really know how to put it articulately. Everything is overdramatized and spectacularized. All the "deep" moments feel like they're either written by and for people who just learned how to use their brains, or women who need everything to be cloyed in gratuitous emotion. The overall direction seems like it's written to script the NPCs' reactions.>Laugh at this>(Don't) Notice this>Gasp at this>Be in awe of this>Cry at this>Cheer at thisAm I imagining things here?
>>150194070For me this only rrally applied to TV shows. My problem was an inability to suspend disbelief. I couldn't let go of the fact they were actors doing a performance on a set. With animation the characters and story were integrated into the world. It was all in a way more "real". Movies with live actors didn't have this issue with me though.
>>150194070>Does it have something to do with "sensory overload"?Autist and someone who works in the care sector for Autists here.It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. If anything animation is MORE stimulating. Autists are not just hypo-avoident to stimuli, they are often hyper-attracted to stimuli too in different ways. An Autist may hate loud noise but prefer to have background noise at all times. An Autist may hate physical contact but seek physical contact with objects. Animation appeals to Autists because it is usually bright and expressive. Autists have a big thing about facial expressions and tonal reading and the beuty of animation is that it is easy for autists to digest and to inteprete than live action. It is also why Autists love live action shows with a laugh track or live audience, it gives them context clues on situations they may struggle to read from the actors.
I just like looking at shit that real life doesn't really contain and find cartoons to usually be funnier. There's a few live action shows/movies I enjoy but I'm never really watching them unless other people show me them.I think a big part of it is a lot of live action stuff other people liked around me while growing up genuinely were dogshit generic laugh track and cheap horror type bullshit that felt emotionally manipulative in the most lazy fucking ways possible that made it hard for me to connect with anything because it causes me to question it more. I usually end up picking apart and thinking about a show from a production point of view if I don't find it engaging, which I don't think most people really understand or think about which creates a disconnect.
My autistic nephew thinks Tokusatsu is the best thing ever.
>>150194070I've heard fellow autists say they find exaggerated animated faces easier to read than live action expressions, basically as >>150194384 said. It's kind of true for me as well, but cartoons are usually so simplistic and terribly written that they become unwatchable for different reasons.
>>150194070For ADHD, because animated shows are usually more colourful and often more exagerrated in animations, character behaviours and even the plots themselves than live action, so they're better at grabbing their easily distracted attentionFor Autistics, I imagine because they usually have a very strong preference towards things they're already familiar and comfortable with, and most of us grew up watching cartoonsAssuming any of that is an actual correlation rather than just anecdotal evidence
>>150194070You recognize cartoon autists because you’re also obsessed with cartoons. If you spent 20 years on a Seinfeld forum you’d be asking the same question about Seinfeld.
>>150196601I just hate how most dramas/serious LA stuff is most cop shows and drug stuff, or have that same vibe. I can still enjoy it but it’s kind of boring a lot of the find
>>150194070Why do autistic people like puppets?
>>150194070Cartoons had a nice, easy to understand visual figurative language until the whole genre got taken over by sitcom writing.
>>150197830Everybody likes puppets.
>>150194070I like a good drama but one of the benefits of animation is that shows are a lot shorter.You don’t have to sit through 60+ 45 min episodes every time
Most live action, especially the most mainstream, is just boring. Lots of empty drama, lots of similar shows(cop, crime drama, hospital. romantic drama), I don't see the point, and mostly they're about horrible people too.
>>150198097If they're 6 years old or younger...
>>150194070autists adore bright as fuck colors like you see in animation, it's why shows with very vivid colors attract the most deranged fanbases
2D > 3D > 3DPD /thread
I have the tism, but I prefer live action over animation.it’s not that I love animation, but most of it is shallow, and all the characters are one-dimensional and cliché.
>>150194070Animation is cooler because you can do cool shit you can't do in live action
Live action can be good.Live action ADAPTATION is rarely not complete and utter cancer that rapes the source material. Nothing autistic about being miffed a piece of media you like gets disfigured for the amusemen of millions of people around the world who woulnt otherwise give a single fuck about it.
>>150194070I love live action things NOW, but as a little retarded tismo baby, I hated live action things because I struggled to understand human faces. Cartoons have very clear emotions and motivations that make sense. Puppets are a middle ground, faces that don't really change but they have body language and voices that are highly exaggerated so it helps bridge the gap.
>>150194369>>150194384>>150196837Autists with higher than average IQ who decide its important to them can often become better at reading facial expressions, modelling theory of mind, and parsing nuanced plotlines and motivations than normal people>inb4 I haven't met one so they don't existSurely you get that these people hyper-fixate on 1 or 2 subjects until they are experts, some more - is it impossible to conceive of autists for whom one of their subjects is understanding people and human interaction?Doesn't it make sense considering how many of them are traumatized by their inability to interact "normally" with people in childhood/adolescence
>>150194192>plus the writing in live action shows is way worseliterally how?
>>150194070Animation is a child media
>>150194384there's a reason why those men who think they're women love anime catgirls. the cat ears can convey a lot of emotion, and since they're all autistic, they can easily tell the characters apart even though they all look the same because of what colors the characters hair and clothes are.pretty sure this is the same reason why things like sanic and horse cartoon are so popular with those same groups of people. the characters all look basically the same except for their colors, and in the case of horse cartoon, their anus tattoos.
>>150194070I'll be blunt, I'm not in those demographics I'm as normal as normal can be and I still prefer animation.I just fucking hate how shitty acting has got, there are no longer any good superstars, everything is fucking done with shitty effects and the stories are boring trite.The moment I see a cool concept I realize it would be done better in animation about 80% of the time.I fucking miss the era of animatronics, puppets, models to simulate explosions and recording underwater for special effects, It was pure cinema.It doesn't help that most of the actors I like are now old as dust and most of the new ones can barely act shit, I can almost guarantee that I get a better performance out of a b horror flick than a summer blockbuster these days.I don't like animation more, it just made more sense that if you have fictional elements you could do them better with animation.
If you're told you're special and different and don't need to learn or grow you're probably going to stick to the same garbage you liked as a kid.
>>150202049Film is children's media
>>150202049Stfu fag
>>150194070Live action just looks like people playing pretend to me. I can't get immersed in it or theatre.
>>150194070I don't like looking at things that are real.
>>150194070i have adhd, but i love sentai as much as any animation
>>150194070Live-action looks too similar to boring real life. Cartoons are inherently more imaginative because they're NOT trying to mimic real life.
>>150203906Retard
>>150202049This.
>>150194070Animation allows for characters to be way more expressive and zany than live action can. It also allows for more creativity and isn't burdened by reality. It's easier to depict an alien or fantasy world in animation than real life, and you could have it be raining or set during Halloween or whatever without having to worry about real world weather halting production.
>>150194070My favorite thing about animation is literally that anything can happen. Also, funny people seem to be driven to write for cartoons because some of the funniest stuff I have ever seen has been animated (and most of it on Adult Swim.) But that may have been a ripple effect of the Simpsons showing that animation is perfect for smart, sassy satire.
>>150194070Autism is not real.
>>150194965I'm incredibly autistic but The Wire is easily my favorite live action show and my 3rd favorite show (behind Mr. Show and Moral Orel)
>>150199548looks like somebody still hasn’t finished puberty
>>150203906same>>150205453retard
Autists can't see Actors as Characters. They only see the Actor, so they can't into live action. At least that's for specific autists who aren't socially developed.
yeah I tend to need to stim a lot too
>>150206993I fucking wish it wasn't
>>150194965>>150207055I thought this was a meme. Give it to me straight, /co/. Why's The Wire so GOOD and why should I watch?
>>150194070evergreen
>>150194070I just find that animation has a lot more compelling attributes because of how much goes into it and how many deliberate creative choices go into the entire process. There's so much variety and so many directions you can do within that medium that almost anything is possible.This anon >>150195087 basically said what I feel about live action movies though, I love that kind of stuff. Too bad my adhd makes it so I like the 'idea' of it more than I actual watch them, too many in my mental backlog because of it>>150196525Oh man are you me? I admit I still avoid stuff like that because I get nervous about genuinely upsetting topics messing with me. Older movies have that disconnect that gives it lower stakes and makes it easier to digest.
I love live-action cinema but I get horny more for cartoon characters. Simple as
>>150194070People with adhd/autism often times view media through a critical lens and are perceptive to little things about it. When it comes to live action many shows have an identity especially sitcoms, dramas, action, and romance, they all target certain demographics that often times don't overlap, and you can end up watching shows with messages that don't relate to you at all. On the other hand popular cartoons like spongebob and family guy are made to appeal to everybody, and with anime most fans watch everything thats popular so in either case theres no questioning of "why do you like X series it's for Y people" when trying to get into a new series or discuss it.
>>150194674I'm an ADHD/Autism dual wielder, and feel the opposite. I can enjoy live action, in fact I watch more of it than I do animation because I find it less overstimulating, but part of the reason I find it less stimulating is because I'm thinking about "how did they do that effect, who's that actor, what do these camera angles imply", etc.Meanwhile with animation I can get more immersed, and forget about trying to make out the strings and parse the methods and just enjoy the experience. Which makes it hit much harder, for better and for worse, because if the experience is enjoyable it's great, but if it's not it really irritates me.
>>150208443I get what you mean. It's like most adults find stylization to be inherently childish. Shit sucks, man...
>>150208319You want a show that'll blackpill you on the reality that shit doesn't change in the world? Watch The Wire. It's bleak as hell, and all the better for it. I don't think there's a single character on that show that doesn't have a great quote.
>>150200617>Autists with higher than average IQThere's the catch.>if we don't take into account these variables that are also a gauge of intelligene, autists are really smart!Remind me again, what was it called when a person has difficulty learning or processing info?
>>150207864Ok Chrischan
>>150207090Fag
>>150206454Kys tranny
