I'm still mad
>>150195344A good thread died for this, brutally kys
That Trixie didn't transition into a boy or that Timmy didn't stay a girl so her and Trixie could become scissor sisters?
>>150195344>side character gets depth and shows interest>promising start for a character arc>series has no intention of ever doing that for anyoneFunny how the series may be episodic but it introduces new characters so much that it's not entirely the case and yet anything that changes any character is either reversed or forgotten at the end of that episode. And then the series goes out on a whimper with no fanfare.
>>150195344i dont believe you
>>150195344Season 2 was just a bunch of rugpulls. Imagine how pissed people would be if the modern internet had existed>bait Trixie being a misunderstood girl with a love for comic books... do nothing with it>make Vicky a skateboarder and punk-ish girl with a troubled upbringing... nah she's just insane>set up Remy Buxaplenty as a recurring enemy of Timmy... ignore him for several seasons and mess up the reason he lost Juandissimo when he's brought back>show Timmy accepting Tootie into his friend group... she never hangs out with them after and rarely appears other than to monkey wrench shit>Chester's baseball background never really developed further beyond his dad's debut episodeetc.
>>150195344I love Trixie Tang. Especially her with huge tits.
>>150195483Which thread? Do you have a link??
>>150195509>That Trixie didn't transition into a boy or that Timmy didn't stay a girl so her and Trixie could become scissor sisters?not that anon but definitely the latter
>>150195594>>show Timmy accepting Tootie into his friend groupWhen did that happen?
>>150195906Boy Toy
>>150195344It was honestly impressive the depth this added to Trixie, growth for Timmy, and how it finally gave her something in common with Timmy only for it to all be ignored immediately afterwards. Takes a special kind of poor writing to do something like that.
>>150195509Timmy should have just crossdressed as Timmantha instead.
>Disguises as a boy>Still wearing eyeshadow>It disappears when she closes her eyesPathetic.
>>150195594>make Vicky a skateboarder and punk-ish girl with a troubled upbringingWhen did this happen?
>>150196379jhonny tests neighbor?
>>150196379Hex Games, The Switch Glitch, Snow Bound (this one was season 3 but it was the final and ultimate rugpull for Vicky)
>>150196360>It disappears when she closes her eyesto be fair this also happens most of the time when normal Trixie closes her eyes too
>>150196437>Hex GamesAh right. Vicky used to have that little bit where she still hung out with the other kids sometimes even though she was a bit older than them. Subtle way to show she was kind of a loser now that I think about it.>The Switch GlitchWas Vicky someone with a troubled upbringing in this one? I thought she seemed more like a regular girl before Timmy started screwing with her.>Snow BoundYeah this was a big shit into not just Vicky's character but her dynamic with Timmy too. I wonder how that happened. That they managed to get someone who clearly understood the value in writing developing dynamics and character only to never follow up on that.
>>150195594Vicky was built up to be someone who was going to try and discover Timmy's secret in the first episode, but it got droppedTootie was being built up to someone who needs fairies but also Timmy's help keeping them, but this was part of the plot of the theater movie that never materialized, and they invented the disastrously executed character Chloe instead waaay to late in the series to make an impactOverall they rode the "Timmy must.... le keep his secret" bullshit too hard and it made the show boring and predictable by season 6. Timmy can never lose, can't ever get discovered, no real stakes, and so on. Characters that couldve easily been brought into the fold of the magic side of things were never utilized that way.
>>150196629>Overall they rode the "Timmy must.... le keep his secret" bullshit too hard and it made the show boring and predictable by season 6. Timmy can never lose, can't ever get discovered, no real stakes, and so on. Characters that couldve easily been brought into the fold of the magic side of things were never utilized that way.yeah there needed to be rules to Cosmo & Wanda's magic so there could be structure and limits to what Timmy could wish for, but I do think that in the long run they overdid it and it stunted what the original show could do after a certain point, at least with Timmy still as protagonist(which is probably why they kept trying to shake things up with first Poof, then Sparky, then Chloe, and then ultimately with both of the sequel series jumping to new protagonists entirely)
>>150195344>t. Veronica
>>150196537>That they managed to get someone who clearly understood the value in writing developing dynamics and character only to never follow up on that.The craziest thing is Hartman's listed Snow Bound as one of his favorite episodes, saying that he actually likes when Timmy and Vicky have to work together.
>>150196795Its weird that they actually DID try on some level to have continuity, have other characters meet C&W, and so on... but it was executed so late or so poorly it just didn't matter
>>150195594dunno if it was S2, but i also miss veronica being obsessed with being like trixie/having a secret crush on timmy.and no, i don't want to read that comic about genderbent timmy at lesbian camp.
>>150196954Can't blame him for favoring it. Protagonist+Antagonist working together, whether willingly or through force, is always a top tier trope (when done sparingly).
>>150196333You'll never get your trap x reverse trap needs forfilled, ever
>>150196962I don't blame you it jumped the shark with the weird sex demon stuff
>>150196629>>150196795They had a chance to do this with and after Wishology but they rushed the movie and fucked up then like cowards status quo'd everything. Timmy going on adventures with his friends and fairies together would've been better than going on them with fucking Crocker occasionally or some other elderly person a gorillion times. Also the sudden and hard removal of Vicky and other characters. But really mostly Vicky. I've said this a dozen times, imagine the Hateful Fart Cartoon removing Mandy. or Frankie gone from FHFIF. It would be unthinkable that one of those showrunners would do that. But Hartman was next level retarded. Vicky was this show's main antagonist. Nobody liked Crocker outside of the writer's room or special ed
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>>150197388Ayyyyyyyyyy, you're a cool dude
>>150197380Sisters.. explain to me why the highest viewed A New Wish video is the one with Vicky....
>>150197402Whatever happened to doing the missing milk cartons?
>>150195483If it was a good thread then it would not be at the very bottom of page 10. Get kidnapped and tortured to death in a psychopaths basement.
>>150196877kek
>>150197329based
>>150196360She probably came to the mall in her regular outfit and then hastily put on the disguise.What I can't explain is her going to the arcade full of other kids and showing no signs of worry that it might ruin her image.
>>150197436I've been busy and haven't really come up with a line up yet for the next batch.
>>150201179Is it still ongoing?
>>150197402You should draw some more Trixie (normal or tomboy)
>>150201965Yes
>>150197388>>150197402should do a followup to this with Timantha also having huge tits
>>150203329>they're even bigger than Trixie's despite Timantha being so much shorter than her
>>150195594It's kind of odd that this show's fanbase has all these ideas about character development and episodic storylines, meanwhile Butch Hartman always seemed to treat it more like a Hanna-Barbera cartoon.
>>150196326>>150204261Butch always did feel allergic to anything having actual depth, and his shows suffer for it as a result.
>>150195344Mad over this?
>>150204261It was stupid to tease character development and then pretend it never happened. Even episodic shows managed to keep such things going in some way. And other episodic shows never bothered, undid the development in the very episode, or created a different setting to play around with it.
>>150205245Crazy mad, not mad mad
>>150201179I don't even remember how the beginning was but good lord the comic is a boring slog, even with the occasional porn. Another instance of a porn artist wanting their porn to be taken seriously.
>>150204261>meanwhile Butch Hartman always seemed to treat it more like a Hanna-Barbera cartoon.I think the problem is that he didn't. FOP takes itself too seriously to be enjoyed as pure comedy, but also doesn't take itself seriously enough to be enjoyed as a slice of life. It's an awkward middle ground that frustrates everyone.
>>150195344Why?
>>150195344I don't get why people got horny for her in recent years. What's the appeal?
>>150204261>>150206376No whats really frustrating is that he DID have character development and multi-episode spanning plots, just for shitty characters like Foop or Crocker
>>150207751>what's the appeal of a tall Asian loli rich bitch/closet tomboyListen to yourself.
>>150196962If I was Timmy, I would've been raw in Veronica the second I heard she was into me, I don't know what his problem was
>>150207846He knows not to stick his dick in crazy.
>>150207866>Cosmo, I wish Veronica wasn't crazy but still fucked like she wasproblem solved
>>150195594I honestly blame you guys instead.You read way too deep into something meant to be just an episodic cartoon. It never was meant to have some multi-episode arc storyline. I never treated it as such, so never had a problem with that.
>>150207846>>150207866Veronica was at worst a bullied kid who takes out her problem on others. That was kind of my problem with making Trixie a sympathetic character, kinda should fix the whole "she relentlessly makes fun of and torments her """bestie""""" problem first
>>150207884No he's right>Have Timmy accept Tootie as a friend in her first episode, even if she can be too much horny>next episodes, Sanjay and Elmer are inexplicitly part of his friend group but not her, and we get an unfunny streetshitter being aggressively gay toward Timmy instead of a cute nerdy loliAnd then the ratings tanked but you people will tell me I'm wrong...
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO FOP CANT HAVE CONTINUITY YOU CHUDS IT HAS TO BE LIKE ANY OTHER HANNA-BANANA CARTOON OR ELSE KIDS WILL GET CONFUSEDholy shit you people are STILL on this grift? they fucking tried continuity and development in A New Wish and it fucking worked.
>>150207884People would've been fine with the bare minimum, something that other shows have no problem doing. FOP builds up characters and drops the development. Then it drops those characters. Then it introduces characters nobody likes and pushes them for a season or two before giving up and trying again. It messed up on every level.
Fairly Oddparents was always shit, why does it have such a devoted autistic fan base? Is it Mexicans?
>>150207907Your usage of the term cute nerdy loli makes me think that you are a weird waifufag rather than the usual watcher.Besides, if the ratings had tanked ON TOOTIE'S INTRODUCTION NONETHLESS, I don't think this show would have had the shitload of seasons it had.The show went zombie much later.>>150207951Isn't that canceled already?
>>150208010Despite everyone dunking on it now, FOP is one of Nickelodeon's most popular and longest running series. It just lost that popularity the longer it went on. There's a reason it had a bunch of specials, movies, games, and two different sequel series.
>>150208044It didn't tank on Tootie's introduction, lol... in seasons 2 and 3, this show was beating Spongebob.Season 4 and 5 is where they upped the flanderization and the show began to fall behind... though season 6 is where the cracks really showed. Wishology flopped and the cartoon never tried a full length TV movie like that again besides the Drake Bell stuff.>>150208087Don't reply to the Zimnigger, unless you enjoy couched raged disguised as bitterness.
>>150208010>why does it have such a devoted autistic fan base?It got rerun lot. Like a *lot*.
Invader Zim was always shit, why does it have such a devoted non-existent fanbase? Is it people who got knocked out in the parking lot?
>>150207751>pretty, popular girl who also shares the same interests as youIt ain't rocket science, man.
>>150195509>>150195892>>150196333>Timmy should have just crossdressed as Timmantha instead.This, the two of them should've just kept meeting up when crossdressing
>>150196360It's not eyeshadow, he just has that condition that y'know looks like eyeshadow. Maybe insomnia.
>>150207951I hate a New Wish so much because it made care about FOP again just for it to get canceled after one fucking season, shit sucks, it got my hopes up and left me wanting more.
>>150197388What am I looking at?>>150208862Too hot, that was my dream as a teen. 3D Women are too gay to do it though. I wonder now if Trixie was my first Reverse Trap, and if she was the one who gave me a taste for it...
>>150207837>picOh, so I'm not the only one who thought she was doing a cool relaxed pose instead of reaching for Veronica's photograph.
>>150207751Yeah I found it surprising that shes getting a boom in Rule34 lately.
>>150209013a new wish brought a resurgence of vicky art, as well as tootie and trixie (even though they don't appear). honestly they should've just soft rebooted the original show, would've actually made bank>>150208946true... i liked a new wish, but the allegations of blackwashing and the dumb decision to make Timmy a fatass loser (then recant it in a random tweet) made things insurmountable. but its a good example of why the FOP story works so much better with a little more continuity and seriousness
>>150209068A New Wish only brought back AJ because they wanted to virtue signal online about how they were using a black voice actor to voice a black character. His design sucked too, especially compared to his other future counterpart in Channel Chasers.Vicky was also a half-hearted cameo and they intentionally gave her a ridiculous costume to hide her adult curves. She should've been Dev's mom, dropped the ball bigly there. It felt like they had no idea what to do with the character.I really don't trust modern day (((Cartoonists))) with giving a good age up design. Tootie would probably have be obese with a sidecut and Trixie would be fully trooned out. But doomposting aside, they could've easily been shown or cameo'd in ANW without outright revealing their marriage status. The cameos that did come all just felt boring and lazy, like Anti-fairies, and Foop's redesign sucked ass too. Only really Poof/Peri was handled right.
>>150209068>the allegations of blackwashingThat was the dumbest thing ever because Timmy and Hazel are two completely different characters, just manufactured controversy for the sake of engagement.>the dumb decision to make Timmy a fatass loser (then recant it in a random tweet)True, they did have a kid Timmy in the background too, but it definitely didn't look good.I was also hoping that we could maybe see the "actual" Timmy in a possible future season, but we can't have nice things.
>>150209165crocker being there was also "Doofenschmirtz in Milo Murphy's Law" levels of forced
>>150195344I'm mad someone would be mad at a Butch Hartman cartoon of all things.