>>150197924
It did though

>>150197924
Taste issue

>>150197924
Probably because the network execs at the time wanted the show to be lighter and dumber.

>>150197924
Not sure what you were expecting. The Maxx for kids?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIkapTMxf_0

Okay but why does the ending theme go so hard?

>>150197924
It does tho

>>150198862
Apparently this was the original intro theme the guitar on this is fucking nasty

why are batman beyond comics never successful?

>>150198955
Comic Writers are spiteful that a cartoon only character was able to successfully become Batman after many failed attempts at pushing for legacy characters of their own. The spite was so much that did you know the Batman Beyond Arkham game wouldnt even feature Terry yet take on the same ideas of Beyond but with Damien

>>150197924
It can, but it's definitely lighter on the cyberpunk dystopia stuff than you might expect
At the end of the day it's still a kids show
It's a shame that Spellbinder, despite being one of the first things you see in that sequence, is really underutilised in the actual show, and Dana, despite her prominence and cuteness, is just kinda meh as a character
Would be nice if the comics/continuations were written by people who care, but alas

>>150199003
These people are spawn of Damn Dildo

>>150199407
I mean, it's actually pretty dark, including the cyberpunk dystopian stuff. It doesn't go hard into the body horror/AI doom stuff of Cyberpunk, the Sprawl trilogy, and Shadowrun, sure, but those elements have always been more fantasy than sci-fi. The human body just can't take that kind of heavy chopping and grafting; the most realistic I've seen is Minority Report, where dude gets just an eye transplant and is on bed rest for days, even with future pain/recovery meds, and ends up fucking himself up permanently by breaking protocol. And the most realistic AI thing is probably Person of Interest, where the super intelligent AI escapes but is, you know, smart enough to understand human dynamics as well as its limitations in the physical world.
So much cyberpunk was conceived by the same group of dudes who thought Doom was sick and it shows.

>>150199003
>Harley is allowed to get anything and everything
>Terry doesn't get anything
this shit is ass

>>150199003
I am so GLAD that game was canceled it legit was just batman beyond but with no Terry

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>>150200000
horey shit, I got quints!

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>>150197924
yeah
nah
ur a cunt

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>>150200000
Not that I want to argue against digits like that but
>It doesn't go hard into the body horror/AI doom stuff
I feel like Beyond does a pretty good job with this, at least half of the villains have some level of body horror going on, but AI stuff is pretty limited (really only Vance, though Spellbinder has hints of it)
The trouble is it's not that dissimilar to how the world was in BTAS and STAS, people aren't really being crushed under the suffocating weight of megacorps or the government because Wayne-Powers isn't much worse than LexCorp, and a lot of the terrible things that can happen to people in cyberpunkland could just as easily happen during the height of Bruce's career
I understand that we've got the benefit of experiencing an endless stream of cyberpunk and dystopia since Beyond (fictional and otherwise) but really, Neo Gotham's living standards are pretty good and the 'evils' of technology don't really survive past the episode a problem gets introduced in
If Beyond were more serialised or they just fleshed out the setting more I think it'd get real dark real easily, but as it stands, it's definitely on the cheerier side of the genre's spectrum (still not very cheery, but a lot less grim than others)
At the very least my rule of thumb is that if the setting has a functioning, natural ecosystem, it can't be that grim

>>150199003
Batman in Bethlehem>Batman Beyond. Only secondaries think otherwise.

>>150200547
Eh, good points, but I feel like I have an answer as to why the megacorps stuff doesn't seem so oppressive. It's all to do with our perspective: 90% of our time in the show is spent with middle class teenagers, people whose (corpo) parents can afford to put them in decent schools, and the various tech and social maladies that manage to reach them. For us, that would be stuff like drunk driving, cyberbullying, and school shootings. Obviously, what adults and poor people have to deal with gets way worse, and we do see some of that with many of Batman's corpo villains. But I think the implication is that living standards are worse than we're lead to believe, we just don't see how bad it gets except in glimpses.
I compare it to Alita: Battle Angel, which did a fantastic job of starting out with the setting seeming like this almost utopian melting pot where even people who lose limbs can be made whole again, because we're seeing it through the eyes of a "newborn" in a teenage body who's hanging out with other teenagers. Then, over the course of the movie, we're slowly introduced to how fucked up society has become; the violence even penetrates the kid bubble on one occasion.
You could also look at the OG Pokemon games, where the story in the background is, "Organized crime performing illegal animal experiments takes a research facility/corpo HQ hostage and eventually produces a bioweapon," while the vast majority of players are focused on the main story's sports glory narrative.
But, again, a lot of cyberpunk pushes the dystopian elements beyond their logical conclusions for groady points. It's all based on shit like mid-century American slums and housing projects, 19th century company towns, and Kowloon Walled City, and eventually everyone gets fed up with the circumstances in these places that one thing or another ends them. The boot stamping on your head wears out.

>>150200845
So, in the end, what I think we're looking at with BB is a world where the corpo oppression shenanigans are actually happening, but outside the viewer's perspective and probably to a lesser extent than more hardcore fiction, because that hardcore fiction isn't realistic. Something can be dark without being grimdark.

>>150199003
DC doesn't want Batman to be a legacy character. They want Bruce to keep doing it until he dies, then come back from the dead somehow and keep doing it more.

>>150200845
>You could also look at the OG Pokemon games, where the story in the background is, "Organized crime performing illegal animal experiments takes a research facility/corpo HQ hostage and eventually produces a bioweapon," while the vast majority of players are focused on the main story's sports glory narrative.
Technically, the bioweapon was already made. Taking over the corporation was so they could obtain the means to catch it, among other goals to rule the region's economy.

>>150200845
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>>150200547
>At the very least my rule of thumb is that if the setting has a functioning, natural ecosystem, it can't be that grim
I guess what I'm saying is that I agree that it doesn't get this bad. (But I think that's a good thing for the world-building since everyone is dead or dying in that scenario, tech be damned. Cyberpunk that pushes it like that might be popular for some people, but it's not really a cogent critique of corporatism or tech run amok, it's a giddy apocalyptic playground like Fallout where half the "fun" is twisting circumstances in impossible ways to fuck with players/each other. Like how most slasher movies work.)

>>150200568
Damienfags deserve the rope.

>>150200896
Oh, right. They made it/funded the scientists making it, then it escaped, then the game's events.

>>150200975
That's anime canon. In the original games, Team Rocket had nothing to do with Mewtwo and it was all just one foolish scientist's mistake in playing God.

>>150197924
Neo Year and Neo Gotham were especially bad fanfiction.
Next mini-series is Batman Beyond/Future Static crossover, which is fun. In the Milestone 30th, the Future Static/Batman Beyond story was the coolest part.
The pre-Futures End Batman Beyond comics were pretty good. The DCAU tieins were the best.

>>150201032
They're connected in the games, too. Fuji knew where Team Rocket's hideout in Celadon was.

>>150201375
Everybody knew Team Rocket's hideout was sonewhere in Celadon. Fuji was nothing special in that regard.