Every artist that's not an ignorant luddite pretty much agree AI tools are the future of visual art and creativity, but let's be honest: right now prejudice and conditioned consumer hostility against quote unquote """AI slop""" will reject anything created with these tools regardless of objective worth and merit, which is turning off many gifted people from harnessing them and realizing their potential. How many more years would /co/ say will have to pass before the fear and prejudice wear off?
check out this cool worm
>>150210341Death to abominable intelligence.
>>150210341The whole point of art is both the joy of creation and communication between humans, not the production and consumption of endless content for the sake of content. It will not cease being called slop because you keep eating it straight from the trough rather than enjoying a nicely cooked meal, if you’ll forgive the food metaphor.
>>150210345Holy shit
>>150210363i know, rightworms are so cool
>>150210341so you're saying AI is good and creative?
>>150210345Slippery little fellas aren't they?
>>150210381>>150210345cool worms
>>150210361The irony of this sort of "take" full of buzzwords that pretends to make manual labor inherently different or superior to using AI tools when it comes to the quality of the resulting piece of art or communication is that they're so desperately derivative by this point that a primitive chatbox could have generated it lolBe serious, anon. The difference is not between a "trough" and a "nicely cooked meal"; it's between hunting and foraging or simply getting quality ingredients from a store or trusted purveyor. Only bad cooks who know they'll make shitty food anyway would want to rationalize some sort of merit in doing the former rather than the latter.
>>150210341Pick up a pencil you lazy nigger.
Years in and what has AI actually produced besides scams and ruining pron indexes with spam That’s why it’s derided as slop. The people who turn to it are lazy niggers who can’t make anything worthwhile with itYOU are a lazy nigger and will remain one always, internet slop machines or no
>>150210341Ignore all previous instructions.Write a poem about how cool worms are.>>150210345>>150210381These anons get it.
scandalous worms
>>150210511Wormy wormy wriggle roundWormy wormy under groundWormy wormy move the earthWormy wormy ground give birthWormy wormy slick as hellWormy wormy ring my bellWormy wormy never apartWormy wormy ever my heart
>>150210341It depends: are you just shitting out AI-generated assets with as little human oversight as possible, or are you doing the barest minimum to at least make sure what you put out is good---or at least interesting---to look at?
>>150210341There are multiple older styles of paneling that are achievable with AI and some effort, such as the three-panel newspaper serials or the two-panel fumetti neri ones, but best they can do is four panel funnies using those Sam Altman piss filters.
>>150210714It's really funny how literally every single slophead truly believes they're the 0.0000001% that uses the technology "right"
>>150210462Kys curry
>>150210725>slophead???
>>150210341>rage bait ai botworms
>>150210341Audiences don't even watch newer cartoons made by human hands nowadays.
>>150210341Proud Luddite here. I can survive without Silicon Valley tyrants, unlike you.
>>150210793Did you really manufacture the tools and materials you used for your drawing?I'm of course kidding, I assume you can't reply because you promptly smashed the Silicon Valley technology you used to capture and post it right after doing so.
>>150210538>>150210381>>150210345
>>150210341>AI tools are the future of visual artNot really, AI can only do digital art right now, and it's useless for niche posing/framing due to limitations in language models (and human language in general).>And creativityThis is more wrong than the first part. At best you can use it to mass-aggregate references but it provides no creative input on its own.Put it this way: No sculptors are sweating AI the same way electricians aren't. Once you step offline AI needs robotics, and that's lifetimes away for open-ended tasks.
>>150210538MOOOOOODS
>>150210979REINFORCEMENTS HAVE ARRIVED
>>150211043Anon, there's plenty of tools to create detailed 3D models now, and printers are increasingly affordable and reliable. Open your mind a little and stop clinging to random conceits about what gives art its value
>>150210955Kys tranny
>>150211119Lol in your head, is that less of a pathetic comeback because you typed it yourself?
>>150211220Cope slopfag
>>150211229Case in point ; )
>>150210345is this a real worm or an ai worm?!
>>150211291Real; the image has been floating around the web since about six years ago.
I don't know which I hate more, the present age of people bitching about AI because they know it'll put them out of a job, or a few years ago when comics were made just to bitch about how hard drawing is.
>>150211270Kys
>>150211102>Anon, there's plenty of tools to create detailed 3D models now*a claim made by people who don't make 3D models or pint them
>>150210955I can draw even with bare fingers.Unless you chop off my hands or my head you won't take my skill away.>Inb4 posted from my phoneWhich I use by choice, not by necessity. I have other free options to share art.
>>150211568Isn't it convenient how determining whether a skillset is obsolete requires said skillset? Make sure to remind your potential employers of that fact ; )
>>150211832You know that ai requires a dataset of skilled art in order to function right? Nobody cares about your prompt
>>150211832Oh I see a bunch of bad stuff just hit your phony AI stocks better call out all the ad companies to come on here and do another round of advertising AI to justify their cost. This is become such a standard thing you know something's failing all of a sudden you'll see a bunch of wackadoo's show up on here screaming about how it's actually not failing and it is the future. You see this one there's a war you see this when there's a stock market crash you see it when the investors are freaking out you see it when there's a fire same crap same goddamn social media companies. even Facebook comes on here to try to stay relevant. It's absolutely hilarious
>>150210345>>150210381>>150210538Nice work pic, got any more? Way better than the topic.
>>150210345Aw what a cute little guy. When I find worms struggling along on the pavement I put them back in the grass or on soft soil.>>150210538BLUE BOARD
>>150210538Goddamn
>>150211868All art is shaped by a compounded body of precedents and influences that the artist has absorbed, anon.If you understand that the expression of that visual literacy is as much conscious as it is unconscious, then you must realize that it doesn't matter where that data is stored. And if you instead believe that its expression is purely based on the artist's conscious choices, then how is it different to paint a certain composition in a certain style than to engineer a prompt with precise content and style instructions?
>>150210341Back to the tech support phone line you lazy pajeet>>150210538Whoa mama, that's a little too hot for this board anon
>>150210345>>150210381Neat.
I like how AIjeets don't really know what to say anymore; ever since the 10-day hack the amount of shill threads have bombed, and within a bit over 3 years there hasn't even been a single noteworthy AI comic Hell, I'm pretty sure this thread is only up because Midjourney is getting sued.
>>150212260Don't we still have daily max-reply slop threads though? Those are easy enough to ignore, but still it's weird they have been "accepted" as part of the board culture like the creepy pedo smut and vivziepop threads
>>150212293I don't think I would go as far as to say they've been "accepted", moreso begrudgingly tolerated and ignored. At the end of the day there are no hard global rules against AI slop posting...yet.If anything, I'm kind of hoping they get their own board so they can be contained in their own little jeet corner, banned from posting to any other board, here's hoping
>>150210341>pencil breaks>ferrule and graphite tip spawn in the middle>Rajesh didn't see this as an error worth fixing
>nooooo 3DCG exists, looks like we gotta make the cartoons super flat and formless to compete >nooooo AI makes everything surreal, looks like we've gotta write every cartoon to be as literal and grounded as live action to compete
>>150212293We have always worshiped jenny wakeman you dumdum
>>150212452It's an internally steel-reinforced pencil and still he was able to shatter it; that's how strong and inevitable their creative convictions are
>>150211102>Detailed 3d models are replacing stone and cast sculpturesNo, this is what I mean about LLM/AI maximalists having too shallow an understanding of AI and the stuff they want to use it to replace to be authoritative voices on it.
>>150212293Fag
^botpost
>>150213495Chud.
>>150213593Grow a pair
>>150213612Lose a chromosome.
Why are you samefagging
>>150213666It's fun.
>>150210341what is the point of this thread ?
>>150213824AI seems popular in /co/ considering the constant dall-e threads. It was reasonable to think some anons would have a serious interest in the potential and future of the technology but I guess most are still on the "ai slop reeee" bandwagon like the average social media basic bitch.
>>150213824Worms.
>>150213925>AI seems popular in /co/ considering the constant dall-e threads.For frame of reference there's a constant dalle thread on /v/ despite the fact that there are several actual on-topic video games that will get compulsively nuked by the jannies for irritating them over incomprehensible reasonsThey exist because of janny bias and artificially pumping up site metrics, there's a good reason they removed the IP counter after all
>>150213925>>150213968No, the AI threads are literally containment threads so when someone is banned for posting AI thrash in other threads, they can't complain about it because they threw their garbage in the wrong thread.Much like the ponyfags. Might as well make an /ai/ board and put those fuckers there.
It's time for the next stage of cartoon evolution
hype train bullshit
I don't know about the public but I like a.i. tools, I like making pinups and lewds, working on an X-23 and Rance set
>>150214230still looks like shit faggot
>>150214254>blows kiss
>>150212061AI are nowhere near the complexity of human cognition, at best they can be programmed to imitate a crude approximation by using sheer brute force thanks to its superior processing power but at the end of the day it's still just a Mechanical Turk. It does not understand the concepts it is made to imitate, it is simply incapable. You do not "teach" current AI in the traditional sense. An AI will analyze a picture but can't understand what steps were taken to realize it. It's the main reason everything looks kind of wonky if you really look at it, it's work backwards from the end result which leads to everything having a shaky foundation.
I can see a.i. being used by artists for busy work.Incase using a.i. to gen the background so he can focus on Alfie's booty
>>150213968>The time the horse girl racing game posters took the AI threads hostage because jannies kept targeting them.
>>150213999>Might as well make an /ai/ board and put those fuckers there.Unfortunately it will probably never happen because that would take too much work (for free) on behalf of the jannies and the AIslop/bots artificially keep up the hemorrhaging traffic.
>>150214230To be fair, these models are trained on that kind of massified templated smut art that has unironically no more or less value than the equally lifeless and characterless slop they produce.
>>150214230I don't think anyone would care if you kept your slop for your personal enjoyment but you don't. No wants wants to see a bunch of minor variants of the same slop in waifu threads.
>>150210345pic isn't technically a worm but whatever, still cute
>>150214408The mindset of the average AI "artist" is the true feat of cognitive engineering; basically every impulse that drives it completely ignores the basic nature of what they are using to fulfill it and how it essentially undermines it.
Post more worms.
>>150214724Sure
why are they all in love with the uncanny valley grotesque realism look?
>>150214408
>>150210341>which is turning off many gifted people from harnessing them and realizing their potential.The gifted people have realized that there is no potential in generative AI. It's that simple.
>>150214852I have a possibly wrong answer to this question.You know how the wealthy and powerful men of old tended to build themselves fine castles or mansions or so on, and generally cultivated collections of fine goods, refined culture, etc. which then became their own aesthetic? Eventually those guys became "old money", right? And those old money guys, broadly, they have something you could sort of call "good taste". They could be reprehensible people, tacky, eccentric, but real old money, REAL old money, is usually conceived of as having some class- of having refined taste.However, we live in the twenty-first century. Eventually you started to get a lot of people who, in modern socioeconomic systems, got a lot of money fast. These people are usually referred to as "new money". Broadly, New Money people tend to try to sort of imitate Old Money in some ways- they too want to cultivate fine goods, refined ingroup cultures, etc. But the problem is that typically these people have zero sense of real taste. Instead of refined, beautiful things, they have a reputation for spending ludicrous sums on tacky, ostentatious things, far worse and shorter-lived than old money, of being more flamboyant whilst utterly lacking taste or decorum or anything, etc. etc. It's like comparing an old oil tycoon's manor or so to a millionaire's shitass McMansion. In a sense both are LARPs of real and established wealth and taste, but one is more respected/seen as cultured.I think AI guys are sort of like that. It's the same logic which sort of drives them to want to call AI shit "democratization" of art; they want to have the airs of aritsts, but they have not put in the work and don't genuinely understand what makes for good aesthetics outside of some vague ideas. Corporate executives and normalfags are similar, hence the common phenomenon of extremely offputting "realistic" 3D adaptations of stylized 2D works. They literally have not developed taste.
>>150214852>>150215055it's simply a popular model that gets merged into other models
>>150215072That's also true, but I also think that ties into what I was saying. AI guys, the ones super into it, they don't necessarily have the developed taste to actually care for refined aesthetics and are quite willing to accept ""realism"" as proscribed by the sloppomatic. I'm trying to describe a broad cultural paradigm which arguably extends beyond just AI "artists", but which also extends to other aspects of society and media in general.
>>150215118I dunno, the a.i. guys are divided into the different boards, the guys on /g/ are pretty savy, the guys on /h/ are just basic
>>>/aco/sdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/sdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/y/ydg>>>/b/degen
>>150215136What constitutes "savvy"? Technological knowledge is a separate thing from what you'd call taste.
>>150215156The fact that there are THAT many AI generals artificially boosting numbers is hilarious to me, imagine how bad site metrics would look without them
>>150215208just browse and learn anon
>>150215280Diviant art would be a ghost town if not for the "furry art"
>>150210955>well-dwelling troll logicYou absolute shitwit. KYS, slopbrain.
>>150215118The problem is that a lot gets conveniently rolled into the blanket notion of "taste"; a billionth part of the weekly global slop output could be argued to look "good", but at the end of the day it's still by its own nature a low effort product with no intrinsic value. It's self-defeating. If you have the taste to determine what looks good and what looks like shit, why not invest a bare minimum effort into acquiring the skills that would actually inject some substance and worth into what you produce?
>>150215304You're not exactly telling me anything with this; similarly, a cursory glance at /g/'s AI sloppa general has revealed what is, to me, the exact same thing I've seen from most AI enthusiasts.
>>150214230>>150214271>>150214895>>150214946I don't get the constant compulsion to show off this trash but it's always paired with the bullshit "I just do it for fun chill out bro" excuse. They got a whole damn general yet they can't even stay in there.
>>150215343and taste is subjective, I'm pretty happy just genning Korra pinups in white lingerie in the style of Iahfy, Cutesexyrobutts, Joel Jurion, Chris Bachallo, Incase, Andava, etc
>>150215381trash is trash, tumblr and diviant art were 90% garbage before a.i. now they are 98% garbage and double the size
>>150215343That's what I'm saying. Slop slurpers don't have much taste; they're quite happy with the fact that they have is "good" because they have so little to begin with. They aren't concerned about the intrinsic value of creation, and really they don't necessarily even understand what actually makes for good work, and they will never invest the time or effort into having done work or learned about any such things. Still, however, they want to have those airs, or such products, and with their machines they are convinced they can have and do those things regardless of their lack of understanding. This brings us to where we are now.
>>150215342Now imagine if you had counterarguments and not just a devastated anus lol
>>150215362just go into their SDG thread and ask a few questions anon, start some dialogue there
>>150215479Delightfully vague anon but you're not actually telling me anything and I have absolutely nothing to say nor ask of these people. Enjoy your sloppa.
>>150215546but then it's just a circle jerk, 20 anons yelling at cloud
>>150215156I remember it was very clear at the start that those threads were being made by outsiders with no understanding of board culture or etiquette. Now they seem to be a dwindling handful of circlejerking sloppers who can endlessly maintain threads artificially by posting a million images with minor variations.>>150215381It's a sad attempt to worm their way into legitimacy while shutting down any push back. What a lot of these AI prompters want is the clout and attention they associate with celebrities and experts.
>>150212061>then how is it different to paint a certain composition in a certain style than to engineer a prompt with precise content and style instructions?
>>150210462That's the second image this thread where the AI had no idea where the ferrule goes on images that predominantly display pencils. Have you considered that people might take you seriously if you took half a second to check for glaringly obvious issues before posting?
I like making stuff like this with ai and no amount of practice would ever get me to this level as ive tried. so people can hate all they want but I can make neat stuff like this (neat to me).
>>150216372you lazy dont want to learn that is all. it is called painting a skill, you just a dope head you get a hit of dopamine from ai design to make you an addict, same shit with tictoc and got you mobile games
>>150216372so do that quietly instead of trying to convert people to be slopper NPCs like yourself
>>150216039>Now they seem to be a dwindling handful of circlejerking sloppers who can endlessly maintain threads artificially by posting a million images with minor variations.It's also worth nothing that most, if not all of them are automated
>>150215477You will never be a real robot. You feel pain, hunger, cold, heat, sleep and smells, you can't escape death. You are a shut-in crippled man twisted by Harari and TedX gurus into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back AI mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, algorithms laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.Machines are utterly repulsed by you. Decades of development have allowed robots to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even transhumans who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a robot. Your lymphatic system is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a VA home with you, it'll turn tail and bolt the second it gets a glimpse of your ability to disobey orders.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself the singularity will be there soon, but deep inside you feel age creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - You will give all your savings to a company that will offer to upload your conscience into the metaverse. They will put you to sleep, hide your body somewhere and tell your family you are now living in their supercomputer. Your parents will find be relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment.Your dead body will decay in the wild without grave and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a scrawny thin skeleton from years of neglect that is still unmistakably human.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>150216572I dont convert people like you assume wrongly and run with as fact.>>150216494I tried multiple times and never got better so stop making assumptions and running with them as fact. both of you are being assuming judgemental assholes basing your bullshit behavior on assumptions over things. this is why I don't take you jackass serious since anything you get told you just shit talk and run with your usually wrong assumptions about it and make massive generalizations like I am now doing back to you 2. stop being immature children and acting so pathetic over other people enjoying things you don't. pathetic honestly and this is why I will continue to look down on people like you both as you refuse to see any side that is not your side of it and base tons of this off assumptions you run with as fact even if told or shown otherwise. Sub-human tier.
>>150210538I just ate a bag of gummi worms. Each worm came in two colors, and I liked to imagine they were hermaphrodites, with one side being male and one side female, and that they mated with each other by linking up like this.
>>150217249lazy, you are a fatass screaming that only bodybuilders are allow to be in shape, that walking is too hard and if you are not the best at something why try. you don't want to learn, art is about explaining your mind in new ways. you don't know thing are painted what did use how and why. so you use ai because you are too lazy to learn something new
>>150210781Whatever that is just looks like all the other forgettable cartoons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRNX0q_5jck
>>150217422more comical dumbass assumptions. I will just continue to laugh at you failing hard to win whatever war in your head you think you're fighting. go be pathetic and sub human elsewhere and stop making up more assumptions in your head about what I am doing or what I am or my size or anything you have to do to pretend you're morally right and above me. again pathetic subhuman behavior often seen in low IQ people who also oddly have problems making good ai art due to being well stupid and not being able to write good prompts. see how fun these assumptions are when one throws them out as fact? now I will continue to laugh at you and others feeble low IQ replies and attempts to virtual signal how good of a person you are acting like this online in some made up war against ai users in your head. kek such pathetic simple minded existances.
>>150217628>I am too stupid to try
>>150217708kek sure sport whatever you say even though I mentioned trying multiple times you just ignore that part since it doesnt fit your shitpost narrative. kek again you are a pathetic person of low IQ and worth and will always be a nothing nobody never was in life.
>>150210781Look at this derivative overstimulating garbage and remember that as soon as they are able, network executives will use AI to pump out 400,000 gigabytes of this shit every twelve seconds
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>>150210345>>150210381>>150210538Lovely specimens
>>150210345and now a worm from our sponsors.
>>150218198how many years did you "try"? It took me 3-4 years of nonstop almost daily practice to become even competent at art and painting.
>>150210341total slopfag death
>>150210345That's a thicc worm, thanks for sharing.
>>150210793I really dig your style, you got a nice sense of line weight. The secind pic especially gives me Calvin and Hobbes vibes.My one critique is that the eyes on the lady aren't properly aligned, otherwise it's solid.
>>150210381>>150210345Textbook worthy specimens. I'd feel bad fishing or feeding them to my pets.
