>>150213397
i honestly cannot imagine watching something like this for ten minutes let alone over an hour.
we have so little time on earth.

>>150213397
idk op is he a fascist grifter?

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>>150213397
Nobody cares about your e-celeb shit you mong

>>150213397
>I'm triggered by some literally who on the internet and I MUST TELL /co/ ABOUT IT IMMEDIATELY!
I sincerely wish taht all of you social media addicted infants would just drop dead immediately. Fucking disgraceful how much of nu/co/ is literally just retards reposting shit takes from Twitter, Reddit and Youtube.

I'd you can't see that worthless faggots like Yellow Flash, EVS, Critical Drinker, et all are worthless grifters then you're an 80IQ faggot, and you need to kill yourself. I say this genuinely. You are subhuman and deserve to die. This isn't about politics. Finding trannies annoying doesn't stop you from being able to pick out the most obvious grifters in the world.

Now, this faggot? He's an IQ100 Autist who says the blindingly obvious in 10x words more than is necessary as though he's saying something insightful. A tedious fuckwit who clearly cares about what he's talking about, but doesn't know as much as he claims. The kind of guy who's read the Grant Morrison and Joss Whedon X-Men Omnibus and thinks he's an expert now. He's honest, if unintelligent, and possessing nothing genuinely insightful to say. I'll take this burden over the grifters every single time.

>>150213397
WTF, Saberspark is crashing out?

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I don't even know why these people are still making videos.

>>150213650
Drinker HAS liked wokeshit before like the new F4 movie. He is obviously capable of having his own opinions.

>>150213650
>He's honest,
He lies all the time like saying April O'Neil was always black or agrees blindly with anything that owns the chuds.

>>150213683
I genuinely had to see what the fuck this could possibly be about and whatever I was expecting "Gen Z are acting like boomers and this is a positive thing" genuinely was not one of them.

"Gen Z are doing things like knitting and making stuff and calling it "Grandma Core", and that's a good thing!" What the actual fuck is this timeline.

>>150213650
>I'll take this burden over the grifters every single time.
Can't you? Honest question here, what the actual fuck is preventing this from being your life. Seriously, 99 percent of youtube will never watch the other 99 percent and know it exists. I didn't recognize a goddamn single name you listed because my youtube recs are full of 3D printing stuff, chinese monster movies, and constantly trying to get me to watch Yugioh content because I looked up one of those boxes that had the god cards from 20 years ago one time. The idea you have to choose between them is genuinely stupid.

And on that note what the actual fuck is the 'Grift' you fuckers keep going on about? Its like you all found this dumbass name and stuck to it despite the fact the only thing they can "Grift" out of you is your time. Ohhhh boy people sure would be watching other thing if these grifters didn't grift their attention away with their swindling! Shut the fuck up with that, it's idiotic.

>>150213397
Well technically, yeah. YouTuber are incentivezed to say what ever will get them the most clicks. Don't worry, the word "grifter" will be ruined and carry no weight soon, I wouldn't be surprised if people started to use it unironically like chud.

>>150213820
>Well technically, yeah. YouTuber are incentivezed to say what ever will get them the most clicks
How the fuck is that a grift.

>Every newspaper ever since the dawn of time is one big grift
How does that not sound stupid to you.

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>>150213801
Tiktok also has this "cottagecore" trend, which is kind of based when you think about it

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>>150213683
>AIslop thumbnail
A part of me has to give props to sloppa, it's made people like this finally go full mask-off on how low effort their crap is

>>150213683
Every generation is becoming boomers in their own way.
>Gen X being a bunch of self-absorbed retards who feel they never get the respect they "earned"
>Millennials constantly whining about muh good old days and complaining about Zoomers/Gen Alpha

>>150213844
I just thought it would be people complaining about racism or some shit but no, it's just these two fucks being like "Isn't it cute that gen Z likes knitting and stuff now? I like knitting too and I'm not a boomer!"

What am I supposed to take away from that besides, good for you glad you're being positive about it?

What kind of /co/Tuber are you
>This new cartoon is the greatest show ever created. It has beautiful animation and relatable characters. Unless the showrunner got cancelled on twitter. Then show is artistically flawed and unfunny. Animation is saved!!!!!!!!
Or
>This movie that nobody was going to watch has a woman doing a fucking turbobitch meltdown, and that's also what I imagine when I think of 2014 feminism. This feminist propaganda needs to stop.

When ever I hear the word grifter it reminds me of that guy who "debunks" all those cinemasins videos and then makes videos where he talks in a super deep voice and accuses every YouTuber that says Disney and Hollywood schlock of being shit is just a "right wing grifter" even though he makes his money by grifting off cinemasins

>>150213882
Because I don't have severe brain damage unlike most of /co/, the only animation channel I follow focuses on the technical aspects of animation, not on whether a show/movie is "woke" or not.

>>150213882
The
>He started out doing pieces on genuinely unknown but unique or outright great animated movies but as time went on just devolved into more pop culture things and occasional rant.
Tuber.

Steve Reviews what happened to you, I never would've heard of Padak or that awesome Pied Piper stop motion without you.

>>150213921
>the only animation channel I follow focuses on the technical aspects of animation
channel name?

>>150213801
The grift is being an outrage merchant. Shitheads who will tell you about the bad thing, but immediately backpedal or flip their script. Trailer for 'Bad' thing? It's bad, get angry about the 'bad people' ruining thing. Wait, my audience liked it? So did I, and that's because we stopped the 'bad people'. Peddle the same shit on loop without effort and earn clicks and attention.

How do I see them? I saw them for a bit and I clicked ignore/don't recommend. It's not uncommon. People on all sides of the political spectrum do the grift. It's just a different affect. You purge them from your feed and you get better shit, but the turds and their astroturfed opinions still propagate and you deal with those failures through their followers. The same way you're being exposed to it now on 4chan. I'm annoyed that it's here, despite me having blocked it already, and long ago.

>>150213567
>I'm triggered by some literally who on the internet and I MUST TELL /co/ ABOUT IT IMMEDIATELY
This but unironically

>>150213694
That failure will look at a trailer, call it woke, and then see the movie and call it woke again. Wait, his audience liked it? Actually, he does too. Let's go back and edit the title of that trailer review to be less aggressive. It's not woke, and ita because YOU have taught corrupt old Disney 'go woke go broke'. Repeat forever.

He's the most transparent of the failures. You are a fucking rube.

>>150213977
>The grift is being an outrage merchant
What the fuck are you "Grifting" in that case then? Do you even know what that word means?
>Shitheads who will tell you about the bad thing, but immediately backpedal or flip their script.
I don't think you know what grift means when you're describing, at best, a flipflopper. Nepotistic writing maybe? Fucking not grifting which is swindling you out of money. You know what a grift is? Like the actual word grifting? When you name yourself the BLM corporation, say you're going to improve the lives of black neighborhoods, take in actual literal millions of dollars and then flee the country to Canada in order to buy giant mansions for yourself and your family. That's grifting. That also happened, by the way!

You're not describing Grifting, it seems like you somehow just discovered advertising for am opinion you don't like and don't know what to do with yourself about it.

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>>150213842
>How the fuck is that a grift.
Stoking cheap controversies and "hot takes" that you don't really believe in just for the sake of money is a grift. You are deceiving people for easy cash.

>Every newspaper ever since the dawn of time is one big grift
There are several newspaper that are solely known for being trash and printing anything for easy sales.

>>150213741
Honest in the sense that he will vomit out what's on his mind. Not in that he has thoughtful or considered takes. Refer0wh0p to my example with the X-Men.

He's stupid, unwatchable trash, but I will take that over a conman that's actively saying bullshit he doesn't believe. That said, I'd rather staple my sick to a burning log than watch either.

>>150213397
Why do so many pseudo-intellectual faggots get so upset about Critical Drinker? He's not even that popular and the only things he ever really talks about are mainstream blockbusters. Are we supposed to be outraged that he might be misinforming people about hollywood's latest pile of shit? Should we be steaming mad whenever he says a movie is a flop, like it fucking matters to audiences how much money the studio made?

>>150213741
>He lies all the time like saying April O'Neil was always black
When the fuck did he say that?

>>150214063
>Stoking cheap controversies and "hot takes" that you don't really believe in just for the sake of money is a grift.
Does this take into account people playing an "act". You have to remember there are YouTube channels that play into a persona while the actual person doesn't actually believe that.

>>150214017
Kys fag

>>150213397
If you click the 3 vertical dots under the video thumbnail it'll give you the option to make it so the algorithm no longer recommends his channel to you. You won't have to make any more of these threads that and you'll be able to focus more on things you actually like.

>>150213397
I remember having a discussion about Grifting. This one schizo basically said all major Grifters are in a secret organization across various sides, just so they can continue grifting off of each other for revenue and money.

So a grifter from the right, grifts on the left, and the left grifts on the room. But they're all part of the same organization, just so they can have money at the end of the day.

>>150214063
>Stoking cheap controversies and "hot takes" that you don't really believe in just for the sake of money is a grift.
No it fucking isn't, you daft idiot. If you say opinions people will watch and advertisers will pay for, that's just... delivering a fucking product. And that's the important part, that's what makes it not a grift, he delivers that opinion or whatever the fuck he does they want to hear. "Oh but he doesn't believe it!". Even if that's true, that's just playing a part. Do you really thing any theater since the dawn of the concept is a grift? Obviously not, but you look at a guy pretending to be drunk and spouting off random shit with clips and think this is special?

>He's stupid, unwatchable trash
You ain't gotta watch either you dumb shit, go watch someone who actually shows stuff you want to see. Watch someone who delivers on it. A grifter is someone who delivers nothing and takes your money! It's very well established here! If he's grifting anyone its fucking advertisement agencies how does this make sense to you.

>>150214042
'Buy my merch!'
'Your views and subscription to the Patreon helps protect traditional values!'
'Thanks for subscribing to DailyWire+ and showing that there's a market in today's world for traditional values!'
'My book shows men being men, you have to go out of your way to see that now!'

The fact that you can't see the next step in the grift isn't my problem. Yes, it's still a grift for the exact same reasons.

This isn't about flip-flopping, it's about intent. Stupid cunts are everywhere. It's about finding an audience and lying to them so you can milk them indefinitely.

One doesn't need to be on the level of turbo-hitler, stealing food from the mouths of starving babies to earn the title. Shit, it's more pathetic to sell your dignity for pennies.

>>150213801
>And on that note what the actual fuck is the 'Grift' you fuckers keep going on about?
Giving opinions on movies. That's literally it. Faggots insist on blowing it out of proportion, like they are spreading harmful information that is damaging society. They have to frame their impotent outrage about mildly-successful e-celeb being a bad guy doing bad things and misleading their audience because otherwise it just sounds like sour grapes. It's the exact same mentality that leads these same faggots to rush to the defense of every pile of shit Disney movie. It makes them rush to the defense of modern Star Wars bullshit because guys like TCD say "this movie is woke and poorly written and has THE MESSAGE" or whatever.

Their anger at the culture war youtubers like Drinker and his whole rotating cast of less successful youtubers ultimately amounts to making people assume that movies are bad. And they usually are. No one is missing anything by not watching the Acolyte and then forming their own opinion that the Acolyte is bad. He's not driving people away from important, intelligent, thoughtful cinema that could be enriching society. They call shitty movies shitty and when some midwit commie faggot shows up and tells you that it's a grift, you're supposed to side with him because he believes he appreciates movies the correct way and it's very important that we stop people from mocking the biggest entertainment industry in the fucking world.

>>150214042
>When you name yourself the BLM corporation, say you're going to improve the lives of black neighborhoods, take in actual literal millions of dollars and then flee the country to Canada in order to buy giant mansions for yourself and your family. That's grifting. That also happened, by the way!
Kinda weird this one managed to get buried, looking at it. They just robbed liberals blind of millions and then just fled, claimed they were going to turn it into a rec center went caught, waited a few months and then just moved in and every time the story gets posted it gets deleted.

>This how Capitalism is le evil.
>Please sent some cash to my Rocket Money.

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Does anyone have that one OC of the grifter guy pivoting his opinions on the Mario movie?

>>150214129
>You ain't gotta watch either you dumb shit, go watch someone who actually shows stuff you want to see.

Yeah, I don't watch him. I skimmed a few videos that popped up before me and knew what I saw; a dense autist. I moved on and blocked it, like everything else I've shit on.

I've plenty of channels I like in comics. Strange Brain Parts is a personal favourite. Let's me find weird old shit whilst giving some critical insight, but not devolving into a shitty storytime channel. Your whataboutism doesn't affect me.

>>150214217
Don't have the clip, but it's Shadiversity.

>>150214147
>'Buy my merch!'
And? Does he deliver that merch? Yes? Not a fucking grift then, is it!
>'Your views and subscription to the Patreon helps protect traditional values!'
Oh wow "Watch my stuff", never heard of that one, sure is sad he grifts them out by not posting anything-oh wait!
>'Thanks for subscribing to DailyWire+ and showing that there's a market in today's world for traditional values!'
How dare they take that money and then not actually give anything-waaiiit.
>My book shows men being men, you have to go out of your way to see that now!'
That fucker, taking money for a book that won't exist by grifting them out of-oh no!

Look, here's an actual example. Here's a real life example of a grift so you get the idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fxls1XrcJc See this? This is a trailer for a show they wanted to make specifically to be about transgenderism. They took in a lot of money to make it happen. They promised if they got this money they would make a cartoon and give transgender representation. You know what they got? Fucking nothing. They got nothing for their actual cash. They were grifted.

That's what that means!

>The fact that you can't see the next step in the grift isn't my problem.
Taking your money and stealing it? Yeah, I can't see it because you constantly don't show it happen. Maybe that's a problem.

>It's about finding an audience and lying to them so you can milk them indefinitely.
Its a fucking opinion about movies you dumb shit.

>One doesn't need to be on the level of turbo-hitler, stealing food from the mouths of starving babies to earn the title
You do have to GRIFT at some point, though! That would be a fucking start!

I made this review a long time ago. Am I a grifter or a fascist or something in between
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKU_vc-wjSA

>Does 28 videos on redemption and forgiveness.
>Still goes after Ya Boi Zack after he's mindbroken into a quisling.

>>150214223
>Your whataboutism doesn't affect me.
Fine I'll stick to reminding you that you don't know what the word grift means and need to switch it up already to an actual description of what your problem is. Any word. Any other word that actually describes it, here. There are many.

Just rec me good Youtube critics. And I'm not going to take you seriously if you rec Neonazis, lolcows or familicides.

Grifters are just trying to make a living, it's understandable to earn money. It's not their fault they know how to play people, at the end of the day they're people trying to make ends meat.

>>150214290
I already did, in a very indirect way
>>150214265

>>150214265
You are a fag

>>150214311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmcCYLlURqg
You want to explain how you're hearing Scandinavian death metal at work?

>>150214306
>It's not their fault they know how to play people,
It is absolutely their fault when they knowingly steal from people by promising them something and don't deliver it, or take their money for a chance at something that could never happen, or just plain swipe their money and lie to them about having taken it. Literally all of those are illegal. They're illegal for a good reason. An Ebay seller who ships you a brick instead of a 5090 sold at MSRP instead of scalped prices is grifting you and its bad, don't praise them for knowing how to play you by pretending you were getting something for a good deal and then getting not.

Grifters are bad, people who say opinions others want to hear are just entertainers or politicians or brown nosers or sellouts or any number of actual terms to describe what they're doing.

>>150213650
>Now, this faggot? He's an IQ100 Autist who says the blindingly obvious in 10x words more than is necessary as though he's saying something insightful. A tedious fuckwit who clearly cares about what he's talking about, but doesn't know as much as he claims. The kind of guy who's read the Grant Morrison and Joss Whedon X-Men Omnibus and thinks he's an expert now. He's honest, if unintelligent, and possessing nothing genuinely insightful to say. I'll take this burden over the grifters every single time.
Can't comment on the specific guy in OP since I haven't watched his videos, but in principle I agree with this. I can't stand the people who care more about culture wars than the actual thing they're talking about. Applies to cartoons, movies, games, whatever.

>>150214245
Implying that you purchasing/engaging with their content makes a difference is the grift.

"Buying my book will show the big publishers that there's an audience for traditional values!"

An indie book with a vanity print run of 10,000 and a profit margin of 300% industry standard sold to loyal psychophants who won't read it will have as much social impact as that tranny fundraising grift did - Fucking none.

Shit being an extra step removed makes it no less of a grift. Adding an extra step with a trinket protects the legality of the act, not the morality or ethicality.

You want grift to be attached to this monolithic monstrous act, and it's fucking not. There's a scale to things. Play with your trainset, calm your autism, and understand that the grift is the nature of the deception, not how many steps removed from the deception it is.

>>150214341
>:(
>>150214343
As the video clearly states, I did that after I got home. But what's funny is that I was still in high school when I made that video. So 80% of my videos were born out of caffeine and endorphin induced highs, and I have zero recollection of how and why I made them. Not that you asked, but it's a fun story nonetheless

>>150214480
>Implying that you purchasing/engaging with their content makes a difference is the grift.
This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read and you've said a lot today.
>If you buy this stuff a lot there's proof of a market for this thing based off this idea you like!
Yes, obviously, I cannot fathom how you stumbled on that. The grift would be saying you're getting this thing and then not giving you the thing because you didn't make a difference enough. But they just give them the thing.
>"Buying my book will show the big publishers that there's an audience for traditional values!"
..yeah, it would. That's how marketing works. That's why podcasts popped up after Joe Rogan hit it big. What? You're still giving them the thing! Even if you're fluffing it up with advertising of "99 percent effective on most germs!" level stuff, you get the cleaner.
>An indie book with a vanity print run of 10,000 and a profit margin of 300% industry standard sold to loyal psychophant
What they do with the thing they bought and get from it is irreverent because that's not a fucking grift if they got the goddamn book. How are you blanking on this? Use the right word!
>Shit being an extra step removed makes it no less of a grift.
There is exactly one step it is removed from being a grift and "Not getting the thing you bought" is that exact step. That's it. That's the only step. If that step is not there and you get the thing you bought, you are not grifted. If you buy a caffeine pill and it has that chemical, you're not grifted, even if the front say "May make you last longer in bed!"

That's not the right goddamn word!

>You want grift to be attached to this monolithic monstrous act, and it's fucking not.
What? It's just taking money and delivering nothing, that's it! It's not like you're eating babies, in fact one of the definition is literally "Minor theft", that's it. You're just saying something idiotic. Just accept you don't know what the damn word means!

>>150214281
I already did. See >>150214480
It definitionally is a grift. Adding a token trinket between con artists and the money doesn't change that.

>>150213683
>/co/umblr getting mad over people talking about zoomers adopting traditionally baby boomer hobbies like lawn care and netting
Why does this pissed of Reddit to begin with? Zoomers want malls to come back.

>>150214609
>It definitionally is a grift.
No it isn't by actual definition, you're using two words wrong and being weirdly proud of that.
>dding a token trinket between con artists and the money doesn't change that
Yes. Yes it does. It changes literally everything.

Shit at this point you're digging into praying nobody has ever heard of false advertising at best. How are you this unable to work with simple words? Just stop using them entirely at this point.

>>150214480
>"Buying my book will show the big publishers that there's an audience for traditional values!"
Wait hold on, but the grifters are spouting that stuff in your hypothetical, aren't they? So, if they do succeed, doesn't that mean yeah there's proof for this market? They're still spouting the ideas, right? So even if they personally don't believe it, they're doing what they claimed.

It sounds like you, who do not want the product, just want them to pass some sort of purity test that the actual audience doesn't seem to care about.

>>150214601
Also that. You're not thinking of the word "Grift" but can't seem to figure out another word.

>>150214601
Let's say that I sold you a pack of stickers for $100. I tell you that the proceeds go towards funding tranny healthcare. I pocket all the money. I did so knowing money would go nowhere. We would call this a grift. The 50c stickers being a token doesn't change that.

Let's say I sell you a book for $50. It costs $5 to print, but market rate would be $8. I tell you that buying the book will show support for anti-woke products and traditional values. I do this knowing there is no such impact, and there are ways to actually engage with these issues in functional ways. YOU argue this is not a grift.

With the intent and steps these are both grifting. The first is definitively worse, and the more illegal of the two. The fact that the claims of option 2 aren't legally definable doesn't matter when applying the label of grift.

This isn't about calling thwm morally equivalent. It's about saying they're both dogshit.

>>150214692
>We would call this a grift.
No that's fraud. Grifting is always Fraud but not all fraud is grifts. Saying "I'm sending the money this way" and then taking it is regular old embezzlement. Not a grift because they got the thing they wanted, you defrauded them because that money isn't being sent where its advertised and embezzled.

See how many wondrous words there are to describe what you actually mean? Use them!

>I tell you that buying the book will show support for anti-woke products and traditional values.
Following so far.
>I do this knowing there is no such impact,
...how.

Lets flip back to the example you just gave, the first one say "If you give me this 100 dollars, the money is going to X!" That's a physical location it could have gone, but didn't, you kept it. In example B, you said "If we sell a bunch of these, it'll show people there's a market for it!" That's a belief as to what may happen. And a factual one, at that! If you sell enough of them, yeah, you'll change the market. Will you? Probably not, but how the fuck will you know that at the start? You're describing selling an idea, at best, which would be essentially gambling with your ideals. If I buy enough, I win big and get my thing! That's not a fucking grift, you, idiot, that's advertising!
>YOU argue this is not a grift.
First thing you finally said that makes sense!
>With the intent and steps these are both grifting.
Neither are grifting. Ones Embezzlement and one's, at the absolute worst, False Advertising.

Use the right goddamn words.

>The fact that the claims of option 2 aren't legally definable doesn't matter when applying the label of grift.
It absolutely does and you're wrong about literally everything, its impressive.

>It's about saying they're both dogshit.
If I wanted to hear an opinion wrapped around words the users don't understand I'd watch a brownnosing wannabe celebrity flip flopping opinion huckster.

>>150213512
This.

i can't tell what this argument is about anymore

>>150214841
>These guys are grifters!
>Not what that word means. Here's an example
>Yuh huh, it's about intent!
>No, its describing something.
>Here are two examples to prove I'm right!
>You described something else named this

Guy Who's Stuck On Words He Doesn't Understand But Doubles Down Vs Autist Who Gets Weirdly Invested In Words Usage No One Cares About
FIGHT

>>150214692
>>150214674
>>150214628
>>150214804

The grift isn't the selling of an object. It's the act of selling a concept for which the token represents, when its sale does not actually further that concept. When the charlatans shill their crap, the item doesn't matter because the brands are all built around the idea that you're paying for the idea, not the specific item.

In the example, the book furthers conservative values to the same degree the stickers fund tranny care; they dont. Which is the point.

>>150213663
Anthony Gramuglia, a CBR writer

>>150213397
I don't really get the grifter accusations, are they implying these people don't actually hold these opinions and are just pretending to for clicks? Like even fans of Disney Star Wars don't like most of it, why would you assume people are exaggerating their hatred of it?

You don't need more than one sentence to describe what a grifter is, unless you're also adding a bunch of retarded bullshit to make the word fit your narrative. In which case, you're probably a grifter by your own retarded made up definition

>>150213683
>>150213859
>AI thumbnail
Doesn't one of them draw?

>>150213397
He's right though

>>150214878
>The grift isn't the selling of an object.
Correct, its defrauding them by not delivering the object promised. If you sold them the thing, but it's not what you thought it was, you were
>A victim of false advertising
Or
>Misinformed about your choice
Or
>Failed to read the fine print(fine print is illegal by the way)
Or
You were not grifted if you got the thing or a potion of the money you sent was spent where it was supposed to be spent, hence why nobody calls the Red Cross a grift.

>It's the act of selling a concept
That is an entirely different thing. Entirely different. You're veered so far off course to not admit you don't know what grifting is you've full on crashed into the goddamn concept of religion itself. HOW.

>. When the charlatans shill their crap, the item doesn't matter because the brands are all built around the idea that you're paying for the idea, not the specific item.
So then you're supporting the brand by buying the thing, and you get the thing that showed your support. If they didn't give you the token, that's a grift. You spent money on thing and got nothing. If you're spending money on the concept, then you're by definition also succeeding in that concept.

>they dont.
Except by definition, they do? One of them has produced something that is pushing the others ideals and shown further proof for investment in the future.

Actually? Looking up on it, youtube provided the perfect venue fo this.
>Watch Critical Drinker to hear right wing opinions(I don't know if he does, not the point)
>He succeeds and gets lots of advertising
>These guys>>150213650 pop up and are also more successful than the one in OP
>Even if he didn't believe it would at the start, he was proven right

Do you see why this isn't a grift? He promised a review with this slant, he delivered. If they supported him so X would happen, even if he didn't believe it would.

With grifting you HAVE to lose something. What did they lose watching him and supporting him?

>>150214918
>I don't really get the grifter accusations, are they implying these people don't actually hold these opinions and are just pretending to for clicks?
Even if they didn't hold those opinions, does anyone grill a comedian for not actually liking airplane food or some shit? When a comedian tells an obviously fake story that makes you laugh, are they grifting you?

What the fuck does grift mean in the context of "Reviews movies with stupid voice"

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He's a fake geek, He thinks Heir to the Empire is peak EU.

>>150213397
Grifter just means “anyone that disagrees with my Leftist Marxist dogma”

>>150215009
This.

>>150213650
Between the two evils, you should choose neither. Watching any of them conditions you to be a little dumber.

>>150214878
>It's the act of selling a concept
That's investment marketing. You're describing investment marketing, to a T. This is the actual literal definition of investment marketing. You're not describing grifting, you're describing the thing people do to get money to get their product off the ground. You started with thing that says taking your money for nothing and ended up in Shark Tank.

>>150213694
Pay closer attention, he always waits for initial reactions on shit before choosing if its WOKE SLOP or not. Only in the few exceptions like Snow White where the hate campaign has been going for months will he preemptively say shit is woke.

>>150215129
He posted his FF video day one of release and most of it is him saying the stuff in the leaks weren't there and he liked it but thought it was mid. He absolutely has called actual successful stuff like Barbie or the first Captain Marvel woke slop before.

>>150213397
Cartoons? Comics?

>>150215129
>he preemptively say shit is woke.
He pre-emptively said FF was woke in the trailer video too. Thing is he said
>I was wrong
In the video. Like actually those words "I was wrong about it being woke" and praising it. It's not like it was a success he was riding, the film flopped. Crashed and burned and that was obvious from its lackluster opening, but he still said "That stuff I was sure was going to be there wasn't in there, and I liked it."

It just sounds like you wanted him to double down.

>>150214129
Everyone knows a theater performance is fake. The value is in the entertainment. But these people derive their value from saying things people want to hear and getting a circlejerk around them, so there is clearly an illusion of the opinion being real being marketed.

>>150213397
He not wrong but his videos still suck and he a libtard.

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>>150215009
>Grifter just means “anyone that disagrees with my Leftist Marxist dogma”
I thought it was these guys

>>150215219
The film was well received even if it didn't do well at the box office. Had it gotten a standard shitty MCU reception he would have been shitting all over it.
Sounds to me like you dont want to admit your idol is a grifter.

>>150215220
>Everyone knows a theater performance is fake
I watched literally 30 seconds of his video to see what the fuck he was even on about and he's talking in a half drunken fake irish accent and saying making jokes about random shit.
>But these people derive their value from saying things people want to hear
I don't know how to tell you about the concept of "Entertainment" but I worry what that word will do in the wrong hands.
>so there is clearly an illusion of the opinion being real being marketed.
It probably is his real opinion, who the fuck knows! How the fuck am I supposed to know if a comedian's story is real or something they made up? How the fuck can I tell if this tale in an autobiography is factual or just something they put in there because of the current political climate, like that black superman writer hating on the 9/11 responders.

My point is that if people find him entertaining, great. If they are only watching him because they believe his opinion's real, then obviously he's convincing. But the point is that nobody is getting grifted out of anything and calling it that is idiotic. You get your drunken irish reviewer talking about movies, that's what you signed up for and what you got!

>>150214379
They're midwits who are more addicted to the culture war and more outraged about it because it isn't fully paying their bills like it is for guys who have the very easy job of watching movies and playing games and then going on a livestream to talk about how they hated it. And 99% of their butt-flustered outrage about "culture war grifters" ultimately comes down to the fact that they aren't allowed to say these movies are bad either.

Their direction-brained culture war obsession requires them to adopt the opposite opinion of whoever they have decided the bad guy is. So they have to twist their brains into pretzels to come up with excuses for why they need to be outraged on behalf of mediocre-to-bad movies made by the worst companies in the world. Then they have to dress up their cognitive dissonance like a sincere concern about "grifters" doing ill-defined bad things to their audience by tacitly encouraging them not to support Disney or whoever. They have to come up with this exhaustive mental gymanstics where they nitpick and dissect every complaint and try to come up with excuses for why those complaints are wrong, but also why the movie is actually good instead, and then they have to live with the fact that they wasted weeks of their lives editing together hour+ long video essays on why this youtuber who dislikes shitty movies is an ideological psychohazard who is harming the world with his stale shtick and negative opinions on most, but not all, modern movies.

Isn't the critical drinker gay?

>>150215270
>The film was well received even if it didn't do well at the box office
So?
>Had it gotten a standard shitty MCU reception he would have been shitting all over it.
I'd ask if you thought those might be connected but I'm not sure you could manage a lego brick at this point.
>Sounds to me like you dont want to admit your idol is a grifter.
I'm not the guy going on about that word being wrong but even I can tell you don't know what it means.

>>150214609
>It definitionally is a grift.
>"engage in petty or small-scale swindling."
It is definitionally not a grift because his audience is too big and he makes too much money. You're a fucking retard.

>>150214951
Stfu

weird how alt-right grifters are all fat, ugly and old

Anyone with opinions I don't agree with is a grifter.
The fact others agree with those opinions means their opinions means they are only expressing those opinions for a profit.

You can't sincerely produce funny commentary criticizing a corporate product.
Hollywood has our best interests in mind and they know best what the public wants and should be taught.

Everyone is extremely happy with media right now. It is why stuff like The Marvels is so popular.

THE ETERNALS SAVED LIVES.

>>150215423
Funny how that's literally the opposite of statistical reality. Not that I needed an excuse to post this but thanks anyway
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666560321000438?via%3Dihub#dfig3

Leftards need to be shot in the face. Then we can all have peace.

>>150215220
If the opinions they're regurgitating are popular, what makes you think they themselves don't actually hold them? It seems to me that the people who invoke the grifter accusation are really upset about a spotlight being shone on a controversy that they'd rather not draw attention to (i.e. various political dog whistles).

>>150215423
Funny of all leftards are trannies and onions males.

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Why do they unironically act like this?

>>150213397
Leftards always think they hold the majority opinion and that they're correct all the time.

>>150215423
You shouldn't let the halo effect control your thinking, your enemies can appear in any physical form.

>>150214166
People advocate for mockery, and then they wonder why everything is irony poisoned. Ever occured to you there might be a connection between the two? Either you're pro-being ironic and dismissive of everything or not.

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>>150213650
>grifter grifter grifter grifter grifter grifter grifter grifter grifter grifter

How can people who don't sell me anything, or take money from me in any form, be "grifters"? Where's the grift?
>they are just pretending to agree with you!
So? That doesn't harm me. Only hostility, fake or real, can harm me.

>>150215641
That is a leap.
Funny negative criticisms and ironic deconstructive media are not the same.

Critics making fun of bad media has always been a thing.

Do you think Roger Ebert only made dry movie reports?

>>150214901
>Gramuglia
>Diregentleman
>Professor Bopper
I've been watching these guys on and off when youtube recommends me and I've been thinking of them as their own genre. A reviewer who is kind of intelligent and has interesting takes at times but also a brainwashed Asperger's leftie who can get needlessly abrasive and make things into an us vs. them fight when it doesn't need to be one. They don't completely browbeat you with this in every single video but it still leaks through occasionally. I would still recommend all four (Diregentleman is a two-man act) for good analysis provided you don't take some of the shit they say too seriously.

>>150215542
>post is about physical appearance
>linked study is about adolescent mental health
??? Do you not even read the titles of the studies you post? Are you a bot or do you have low functioning autism?

>>150215641
Irony poisoning is a tiktok problem retard.

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I will never understand why they hate mauler so much. The dudes mildly autistic but none of his opinions are extreme in any way.

>>150215732
>Retard doesn't understand the link between physical and mental health
Many such cases. Does there even exist a study that proves the contrary? I doubt it

>>150215591
Because they have adopted big corporate products as part of their identity and Hollywood opinions as their gospel.

The idea cultural needle on media values can shift and the zeitgeist flip becomes a personal affront.

"Grifter" used to mean someone who scammed someone else, now it just means "someone who runs a youtube channel that has opinions I disagree with".

>>150215763
Because Mauler is popular and their own videos praising Steven Universe and The Marvels are not.

>>150215333
No anon. He just hates aliens.

>>150215711
>Funny negative criticisms and ironic deconstructive media are not the same.
Yes, they are. They propagate the exact same values and views, i.e. dismissing stuff like common genre tropes as trite and worthless and perpetually pclaiming you want something more profound in your pop culture without knowing what that is that you want. And Ebert absolutely was a proponent of that.
You just don't want to admit that because you want to do both "oh woe is me where is sincerity in today's irony-poisoned world" schtick but at the same time be able to still mock things when it's something you personally dislike.

>>150215784
>Nobody who could be this much more popular than me could actually believe what they're saying! They HAVE to think like me but actually pretend otherwise!

>>150215800
Oh so just like how Praise in Shadows is jelly of Wendigoon?

>>150215824
It's worse than that. It's assuming that anyone with [insert opinion you disagree with] must not actually believe that and is just pretending to believe it for revenue.

>>150215243
>literally nobody wanted to acknowledge this
damn this shit really is a ponzi scheme huh

>>150215591
Midwittery of the worst kind
>think they are too smart for sports
>not smart enough for advanced, technical hobbies
>not talented enough for music
>not autistic enough to just play and enjoy vidya
>for a 15 year period, they were allowed to supplement their lack of interesting and genuine personality traits with Game of Throne, MCU movies, Rick and Morty, and Star Wars
>these things were socially acceptable *and* backed by mainstream journalism approved hobbies that allowed them to feel like they fit in with society and vicariously had value and importance
>and then everything changed when the "Grifters" attacked and accurately pointed out that these things got worse or always sucked and cost billions of dollars that didn't get a very good ROI
>so now they seethe endlessly, trying to rewrite the unfolding narrative as everything being great until some youtuber chuds convinced people, through misinformation memes and alt-right recruiting tactics, that they should hate Star Wars and Phase 5 MCU movies

>>150215822
You unironically don't know what any of that shit means, do you?

>>150215591
>Leave alone the
This part has always bothered me, I can't tell if it was an ESL-ism or something antiquated

>>150215891
That's more of a symptom of Musk and Google and Tiktok monetizing engagement-baiting faggotry. But yes, the Greek Philosopher statue guys talking about tradition and blasting comment sections with retarded screeds about how the woke liberals are killing white and western values are usually Indians.

>>150215303
It's more so that his reviews are shallow because he doesn't talk about the movie any further than generic culture war talking points. I.e. he will never go in-depth into the story and will spend more time complaing about girlbosses. So you're not getting an actual review with him but a /pol/ rant. And before you say anything, I could say the same about breadtubers who make everything about the fight against capitalism too.

>>150215591
Honestly this won't do anything really because it's the algorithm, a program that knows your tastes better than you yourself most of the time, that directs people to these video, rarely their own searching for videos. Unless you molest children viewers are rarely care enough for an exposed video to do harm. He isn't talking to the "grifter's" viewers and convincing them he is wrong, he is preaching to an audience that the algorithm has chosen based on the videos they watch that already agrees with him. YouTube drama doesn't kill careers, it's just second screen content viewers consume passively in the background. if anything all Anthony has done is made content for these guys to react to and then show their viewers, getting them more views. No one is losing, no one will suffer.

>>150215822
You sure have built a picture about my own media preferences from no basis whatsoever, Sherlock.

If funny media criticism created ironic deconstructive works then media would always be stuck as ironic deconstruction.

Criticism from guys like Mauler or Drinker already comes with a lot of examples and arguments about how media could be better or has degraded. "Not knowing what that is you want" is a very hollow accusation that tells me you haven't actually watched their long form reviews or discussions.

>>150215731
As a fellow Aspie Gramuglia strikes me as an idiot that can't bother to understand that the reason why people dislike his takes on media is because those takes ignore basic in-universe logic or blatantly ignore what happened in the story and he just thinks is because those people have the "wrong" opinions.
I don't know about the other two so I can't give an opinion on them but I sometimes feel Schaffrillas fits that bill sometimes, like post "Twist villains" video he had sometimes moments when his biases were showing but he could be nuanced about them (Calling out Disney's "pseudo-wokeness" in his second Ralph Breaks the Internet video) but I feel that at some point after his first Owl House video he can't go one moment on one of his videos without having a nonsensical politically biased take ("Forced heterosexual moment") that ruins the video's momentum or just makes me go Jim Carrey "oh, come on!".

>>150215836
Pretty much. But under the excuse that negative funny reviews are doing harm or can't actually be sincere opinions.
Because obviously not liking sfuff like The Accolade is wrong, wrong, wrong.

>Vader is an unredeemable fascist!
>But Magneto & Doom are alright.
Wut?

>>150215977
>It's more so that his reviews are shallow because he doesn't talk about the movie any further than generic culture war talking points
He just uses those as springboards for jokes in a drunken accent.
>And before you say anything, I could say the same about breadtubers who make everything about the fight against capitalism too.
Well then they're just less funny to their very specific audience. Do remember that even though he regularly crosses 1 mil with his videos, he's pretty small time in the grand scale of Youtube. That those breadtubers like OP are so fucking insignificant they can't even manage 100K is besides the point, he has an audience that laughs at the stupid persona he puts on. Either you know its a fake persona or don't care enough to think about it, like theater. Still not "Grifting" anything because he's delivering exactly what he promised up front.

>>150215977
For what it's worth, most people won't engage with a movie beyond it's superficial and surface level elements. If someone won't or will like a movie for those surface level reasons, then a review telling them about those things is all they really want. At the same time, if someone is going to a loud jackass who puts on an act of being an overly drunk bastard who plays the same handful of clips as his punchline for deep, thoughtful, academic critique, then they are just setting themselves up for pointless disappointment.
>Fast food?! But I wanted 5 star cuisine! What the fuck is wrong with McDonalds and why do we allow this to continue?!

Little Platoon generally does more thoughtful examinations of movies and shows, but he doesn't generally cover film-making or the technical aspects of cinematography, just the writing. He still gets lumped in with Drinker and the rest, despite substantiating the same kinds of "anti-woke" criticisms with far more words and longer reasoning.

>>150216093
A character's ethnicity correlates to his/her redeemability according to these people

>>150215764
>desperately trying to move the goalposts to save face because you got called out for being illiterate
Thanks for proving you don't even read the shit you cite for your dumb culture war nonsense.

>>150215929
No, unlike you, I actually know how these things relate to one another.
Deconstruction and media criticisms usually go hand in hand, at least certain types of criticisms. When you're watching genre fiction, there are genre tropes and conventions you're usually expected to accept. When one refuses to accept these conventions and asks questions about how this would work in real life without those tropes applied, they engage in deconstruction on a minor scale.

Example: I watched Spider-Man Homecoming with a friend years ago. My friend thought it was stupid how Spider-Man was able to stich the two halves of the ship back together after Vulture blasted it in two, because you wouldn't be able to do that in real life. That was an example of minor-scale deconstruction, rejecting accepted genre conventions (where you're not meant to interrogate stuff like that). This is a very basic example, but once you understand the nature of deconstruction you will see it in most criticism.
>>150215982
I didn't say anything about your media preferences, just the double standard of vying for alleged sincerity while engaging in mockery. You're free to do either, but both at once is just ridiculous because they're inherently at odds with one another.
>If funny media criticism created ironic deconstructive works then media would always be stuck as ironic deconstruction.
Well, here's the thing: it's much easier to do small-scale deconstruction by simply mocking something in a review then to fully reject the tenets of a genre and create your own work following what you believe to be more realistic conventions.

>>150216163
You legitimately have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Go back to plebbit where your word salad can be upboated by a thousand cyberops feds so can feel like you're smart again.

>>150216138
I didn't move the goalpost you retard. Unless you're just hyper fixating on the fact that 12th graders were used in the test

>>150216163
I'm going to need you to lower your autism by 50% and try to write your opinions with less rambling.

>>150216200
>>150216216
I accept your concession.

>>150216269
You don't even know what "deconstruction" means, retard.

>>150216269
Nobody wants to read your anecdote about going to the theater with your friend. You are not 12 yeara old. Just make an argument.
No wonder media criticism you disagree with got you so butthurt.

>>150216122
"It's not mean to be actually good reviews" is not a particularly great defense. This is the same song and dance with Youtube reviewers as the years go by, regardless of politics, and I've always been irritated by this. Someones spews shallow uninsightful takes that kids online begin to parrot, lowering the overall quality of discussion, then people defend them by saying that "it's just a persona" or "no one said they'd be giving insightful critiques", even though the sense of superiority and self-satisfaction is undeniably the part of the appeal of watching reviewers dunk on something. It's been done before with guys lke CinemaSins and RedLetterMedia. How about people just make actually good reviews without all this coping.

>>150216327
Still waiting for you to refute anything I said.
>>150216343
If you got to my example, then you read the first paragraph, which already contains my point. You're simply ignoring it to be intentionally obtuse. If you need to be spoonfeed, here's the tl;dr: complaining about "irony poisoning" and "lack of sincerity" while engaging in mocking reviews is stupid because mocking reviews contribute to the proliferation of ironic dismissive views of media, which incentivizes stuff like subversion, deconstruction, parody self-aware winks at the camera, etc. Obviously it would be harder for a creator to be sincere in their environment, because they would always be insecure about being drowned in mocking reviews.

>>150216373
>How about people just make actually good reviews without all this coping
And here's where pretty much everyone who spouts this shit goes full face off at the exact wrong time. The same problem with pretty much every current day hollywood adaptation and every cope of a failure of stuff that says what they want it to say, right or left.

Youtube obviously has a fuckton of reviewers that say the stuff you're wanting them to say, they obviously talk the way you want them to with the lack of jokes you want them to, without the personas you don't like and talking about the things you feel are important to the matter.

But, of course, that's not enough, because that's not what people are going to. It's not that you don't have this thing you want, its there, you can watch it anytime, its that something else exists and says "No, fuck off" to your suggestions and does the opposite, and it works. Who cares that you have exactly what you want, that thing over there isn't what you feel like it should be. Critiques should conform to what you feel like, don't give people the option. If they have the option of thing you like and thing you don't like, well, they'll probably pick the latter and that's wrong. Who cares if thats what they're looking for, they should be saying stuff you are looking for, don't give them the chance to go off and do their own thing. And when it inevitably works, when the other side manages their win, well, they don't actually believe what they are saying. How could they? Nobody actually likes that stuff, because you don't, so what they're actually doing is pretending to be the other thing just for success, but they know you're secretly better.

The only one coping is you that someone got the option and decided they didn't care for your opinion, and won't remember you had it.

>>150216512
>schizo rambling about muh sides
I was saying everything I said in that post for years before the culture war. It was always a constant that the most popular reviewers are usually the ones that put on a persona of being a grouchy guy who hates everything and assumes the worst about whatever he reviews for entertainment value (allegedly), and then their popularity in turn leads to people spreading their stupid takes. I don't watch any of those people myself, but whenever that comes up in conversation I will voice my distaste towards them, because what they're making is slop.
Also, your appeal to popularity is completely self-defeating because by that logic whenever they criticise a box office success they're automatically in the wrong. Is Minions is the best animated movie of all time?

>>150215763
Mauler is a truly baffling case. His entire schick is going after the lowest of the low hanging fruit and painstakingly pointing out why they're bad. None of his reviews are revolutionary, its just him pointing out obvious flaws in obviously flawed products and yet for some insane reasons he's somehow developed a small army of people who act like he's Hitler because he didn't like the new star wars thing

>>150216373
Nobody wants honest reviews. Hollywood is unbelievably boring nowadays.

>>150216489
You are making a leap between the existence of mocking reviews and deconstructive media. Funny mocking reviews have ALWAYS existed. They predate film.

Directors and producers making bad deconstructions don't do it because critics made fun of stuff, they do it because they think they know best.
Rian Johnson destroyed Luke to "subvert expectations".

>>150216650
>I was saying everything I said in that post for years before the culture war.
Yea that would be why there wasn't any mention of politics in big text, buddy. Right or left was just an example like "Hollywood adaptations". Just one of many examples.

Like you.
>It was always a constant that the most popular reviewers are usually the ones that put on a persona of being a grouchy guy who hates everything and assumes the worst about whatever he reviews for entertainment value (allegedly)
Oh, yes, allegedly. Now I get to copy paste and save some trouble.
>Nobody actually likes that stuff, because you don't,
Then it's a case of
>and then their popularity in turn leads to people spreading their stupid takes
Oh no, people heard your takes, and theirs, and told you to fuck off. The problem, clearly, was that they had a choice and did something else. As you just proudly proclaimed, you don't watch that stuff yourself, but the problem was that other people did. Since it wouldn't affect you, obviously the problem was the choice. You have your own videos that aren't them, and you like, but they have their stuff they give and its wrong.
>Also, your appeal to popularity is completely self-defeating
This isn't appeal to popularity, this is appeal to wider selection of choices. I'm getting the oddest feeling you don't actually know much about critique. The Minions existence is not a problem since I have other options to choose from, even if they're less popular. Your issue is the critical equivalent of the minions is too popular, and they're "Spreading their stupid takes", as you so sloppily shit out. As always, the mask went off at the exact wrong time.

>>150216650
Quick question, please try to be brief.
What do you think is the role of a modern youtube critic?

>>150216729
I still haven't seen TLJ to this day so I'm only vaguely aware that Luke is a twist villain in that. I would not call that by itself deconstruction, it seems more like outrage bait. But the desire to subvert is always incentivized by the mocking critique of predictability with stuff like:
>oh so the hero saved the day with the power of friendship? wow who could've guessed that! what a boring ass-movie

Which doesn't mean you're not allowed to criticize anything, but if I don't like something, I usually start by trying to understand what the work was going for and why that didn't work for me. If it's a small online work and I have a direct line to the creator, I usually try to communicate that without mockery. I've come to believe that's the optimal approach that doesn't incentivize people to be insecure and hide their sincerity away.

He's just another HelloGreedo.

>>150216763
>let people enjoy things, how dare you have a problem with people liking something you don't
You do realize that this can be applied to any criticism to begin with, defeating your own point once again, right?
>>150216802
Ideally, I expect an interesting person sharing their opinion in an engaging way without resorting to pedantry, thought-terminating cliches or stereotypes, and their ideal function would be to educate people, let them know about lesser-known stuff, or at the very least interesting ways to approach well-known stuff, whether positively or negatively. In practice, I mostly expect low-brow people who are probably younger than me going for the lowest-hanging fruit takes about the lowest-hanging fruit media because that sells.

>>150214069
probably just became an easy target for them
kinda like how butch hartman's become ultra mega satan for cartoon reviewers

>>150217043
Hartman is legitimately a scammer though

>>150215951
it's technically correct, just as you said antiquated

>>150217051
(NTA) Sure, but some people treat him on the same level as John K

>>150217007
>>let people enjoy things, how dare you have a problem with people liking something you don't
By all means, make fun of them, mock them, belittle them and jab at them. If they're allowed to make fun of movies, you're allowed to make fun of them, after all, that's the tradeoff of saying something in public, which is what you're doing right now in face.

However, you don't get to pick when it stops, do you? When you say something like 'Why don't people make things I like", that's not the end of the conversation. We get to make fun of you saying stuff that amounts to "Quit liking what I don't like, because if you can pick something else, you will!", and ultimately we get to this point. Where you accidentally or intentionally just confirmed every thing said while pointing out your own, as you put it, "Stupid takes". You came in thinking you were saying something thoughtful, but instead ended up being a setup to a punchline.

If you want to pretend to be thoughtful and really just have a problem with "Stupid takes", maybe don't bring your own to the table next time?

>>150213426
This. I hardly watch YouTube anymore after realizing most of the videos I watched are just boring stretched-out slop

>>150217007
>Ideally, I expect an interesting person sharing their opinion
The fucking irony

He's not even getting paid the absolute dipshit

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>>150217101
He shares his dumbass opinions for free, thank you, maybe some kids will be spouting his takes soon enough like he wanted

>>150217067
So you consider yourself an enlightened intellectual for watching slop makers and defending them whenever someone points out they make slop? Are you really that delusional? You have not provided a single argument for why it's stupid to criticize them aside from "people watch them", which can be applied to anything.

>>150216869
> I've come to believe that's the optimal approach that doesn't incentivize people to be insecure and hide their sincerity away.
You have A LOT of autism.

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>>150213913
Birdman.
https://youtu.be/_kDSXHCCgPc

>>150217269
I know, the basedchad approach is to shit everywhere alongside others and then wonder why everything around you smells like shit. Your actions can never possibly be contributing to any negative trend you see around you, you are the special infalliable chosen one.

>>150217306
No, I'm telling you that you are talking about others with the unfounded certitude of an autistic person.

>"incentivize people to be insecure and hide their sincerity away"
For crying out loud, humans are not robots.

I only watch autistic deep dive videos on bullshit. If I do watch a review it's probably for an autistic building strategy game so not much to be angry about, unless it's about Stormgate which costed 40 million dollars apparently.

>>150213397
>grift
Doesn't money have to be involved for something to be grifting? Furthermore, why do people act like it's some major offense? If you fall for bullshit, that's entirely on you. Buyer beware.

>>150214918
>>150214999
Generally speaking, yes a grift is when a person who doesn't actually care or have any intention of supporting a cause or movement profits from it while not supporting the cause or movement. The issue is that it can be hard to spot and call out drifters since people don't 100% agree on a sides issues. Hence why Critial Drinker gets called a grifter because he says a bunch of stuff that is considered conservative but isn't willing to go that extra mile to support the serious and big issues conservatives care about, yet he still heavily profits and kind of advertises to those same people.

>>150217594
See >>150214926

>>150215704
>If it doesn't harm me then how can they be one?

You can't be this stupid right?

>>150214878
It is fine to not know a word or to make a mistake anon. You can stop doubling down now.

>>150217621
Why did you link your own post?

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>OP is posting his own video to ragebait
>his fans are posting the video to ragebait
>OP is posting it because he doesn't realize this'll only help the video succeed
Which one do you think it is? This is the 4th time I've seen his videos posted here. No way it's natural

>>150216869
>I'm only vaguely aware that Luke is a twist villain in that
He's not.

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>helloooooo there YouTube. Today we're gonna talk about how Disney ruined star wars. In the new movie, they turned Luke Skywalker into a whiny little bitch, and if you remember the original movies, Luke Skywalker was never a whiny little bitch. He was strong and confident and super cool. I don't know why Disney would drastically change Luke like that, unless it's a feminist conspiracy to turn everyone into whiny little bitches. Thanks for watching and be sure to buy my $80 comic book.

I really don't understand why neckbeards treat Last Jedi like the next Gamergate.

god, you are stupid

like really stupid

like you heard another idiotic lefty say the word grifter and now you repeat it like a parrot god

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Is this thread even about anything?

>>150218146
It's about how every Star Wars protagonist is a bitch, and how that word changes meaning across genders.

>>150213397
OP you faggot at least post the link so I can make fun of this faggot properly.

>>150218159
So, shit nobody cares about.

>>150218052
Stfu

>>150218052
That's because you're as dumb as the grifters

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Hollywood just needs to stop relying on superheroes. People feel too insecure about watching super hero movies so they have to mix in politics so that it's an adult thing and not some guy getting really excited over SUPER MAN. Let's go back to totalitarian dystopia love triangle movies.

>>150217930
Guess he must've gotten upset at the people here suggesting that he's likely to be canceled and trying to get the Youtube clicks before some scandal happens

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I figure grifting just meant >>150214117
Dishonest people saying shit to get views and pander to an audience.
If ya'll want a video explaining it, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcwpzfHf-VU

I just hope you guys don't reject it because he criticizes your daddies, same dude goes after lefties for pushing candidates nobody actually wants so he's not a one sided jackass

>>150218442
Grifting in general is selling a lie to people and profiting off of things you don't actually believe but people are retarded and always change the meaning of things

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>>150218538
That's literally what I'm saying what a grifter is

But I guess some people just wanna brush off things they hate with words they don't know, even if they're onto something it's hard to take them seriously when they just say buzzwords.

I still stand when I say people like Critical Drinker are grifters because the man changes his mind on movies depending on the general consensus of his audience

>>150218594
Why do you watch Critical Drinker at all

>>150218594
I dunno about that, in the latest EFAP anniversary he joined in with them discussing a video that was decrying him for being a woke shill for Disney, so I'm not sure if it's true about him having no principled opinions about his media analysis.

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>>150218693
I don't, but many do, and I think people watch him because he's entertaining to them with his sense of humor and "spitting facts" which is just him saying woman bad and woke bad because he thinks Hollywood hates him and men in general.

I'm sure there is a genuine fan of film under all that bitterness, he's just lost in the grift that it's hard to see through. He's gotta keep on pandering to his audience or else his empire falls apart and he'd have to get a real job

>almost 200 replies
>no actual link to the video
What's the point if you aren't going to link it so it can be discussed?
https://youtu.be/eAaPRP2AVHc

>>150218040
Bold of you to assume there's a comic book to be bought.

>>150213397
>I come at things from an opposing viewpoint from all these guys despite operating under the exact same model
>clearly I am nothing like them

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>>150218772
I ain't watching that shit.

>>150218594
The think about ciritcs is that they only need to be right once.
He came in an era when movies started to suck and feel designed by committee.
Many people felt you were wrong to criticize the hype machine and shills from the studios, suddenly they find an online persona saying they are right about this movie sucking then made a community out of that.

He can be a grifter, but he was right at one point, it takes a lot of wrong takes to lose credibility at that point.

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Geez, I always liked him, no need to be so mean.

>>150218772
This guy was always an obnoxious faggot and mostly got big by piggy backing off of jerry peet aka lily orchard hate.

>>150218822
Honestly I think that's how most of them start off with. I'm sure there are people who see the "big bucks" in making videos to complain, but most started with true passion and conviction in their opinions.

What happens is that they get audience captured because if they try to be nuanced or have opinions that differ from their new audience that's superchatting them, they'll leave, meaning they have to lean in and treat everything as the world's worst no matter what.

>>150213741
Fine, she was originally black. Happy?

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>>150218822
While I do agree movies sucking are a result of a committee and silencing creative freedom, I have a feeling that if HE was a part of the committee, he wouldn't have an issue with bossing everyone around, same with fans who want stuff made for them

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>>150217930
4th. Op is a sissy faggot and he is posting it to argue with faggots, the video is only an excuse.

>>150218772
Never watch these shitty clickbait videos.

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>>150218918
This rarely happens, and when it does, they still don't fucking listen to them. How do I know this because they had a fucking sonic lore historian and the lore still got fucked up.

>>150219005
Ian Flynn?
Either, you thought about making your own stories since modern ones suck?

>>150213650
Jesus man, tell me, when did these guys nail your dog to the floor, shoot is brains out then piss on the corpse. That would be the only way that this level of seething wasnt a cringy you problem.

>>150219005
The leading Tolkien scholar Tom Shippey was fired from Amazon's Rings of Power.

>>150219093
Man, I have some real hardcore LOTR fans as friends who were so excited about Rings of Power when it was first announced and the premise revealed. Their disappointment was immeasurable.

>>150219504
It's their fault for trusting Amazon

>>150221228
>"The sea is always right"

>>150219504
Look at this way, RB's Return of the Ring had Skeletor as Witch King, Shaggy as Merry, and who forget the disco sounding, "where there's whip, there's a way".

Bakshi's Lord of the Rings part I had trouserless Boromir, Orcs in ape masks, and Aruman. I'll give this A for effort and the first part of film and the memes.

Those had issues but at they tried to respect the work and Tolkien fans seem them as flawed and fun works.

Amazon's Rings of Power, not so much.

>>150213844
Cottagecore has been here all the way back in tumblr and it's only based in the sense people appreciate the aesthetics. But that's all it is: aesthetics. Most don't realize that a cottage isn't just cozy life like a Disney movie and requires some amount of effort. I mean I'm glad people are seeing the benefits of going out in nature, but a lot seem to be abut aesthetics than the actual practice.

>>150214069
He got mentioned during Sweet Baby Inc shit by journos despite never really tackling videogames (except mentioning the medium when he generalizes "media" such as movies, shows and videogames), and only focused on movies and shows. It was weird when I saw people claiming he was leading gamers when he doesn't even cover games.

>>150218758
Holy shit, you care about someone you don't even watch?

>>150213650
>grifters
meaningless word

>>150222168
>"You have not seen what I have seen"
Bravo Bezos

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>>150222997
He does have a Gaming channel (https://www.youtube.com/@TheCriticalGamer83) despite that being a secondary channel and some of his early videos do cover gaming topics (https://youtu.be/Qif2Zylr13Q?si=nqI76QI5yRvlXJ_c and a Resident Evil retrospective)

>>150218758
Of all the things to say about Critical Drinker or the comedy bit he exaggerates with, "Bitter" does not apply.

Only autistic people think you have to be bitter to have a negative opinion about something, because that's how it is for them.

>>150225512
Critical Drinker grifting? Unless he sells something and doesn't deliver, that isn't grifting. He just says opinions on youtube and get some money out of it.

Now, people that would fit the bill would be Ethan Van Sciver he promised to make and deliver some comics he made and ended up delaying those for an indefinite amount of time for reasons.

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>>150225705
He says MANUFACTURED opinions since he keeps on changing them based on the common consensus, that's why I have a hard time trusting him https://youtu.be/2lgmvraCq1g?si=xOxIaCezQEMlr_rf

Also, I wish I could get paid to sit on my ass and yap about my opinions.

Also holy shit that #comicsgate guy is a real character, screw him

>>150213426
most just put it as background noise while they do other stuff

>>150225071
Huh, did not know. Funnily enough I usually watched his videos if it had a positive thumbnail/title. Only a few times I watched his negative opinions, mostly on the declining state of hollywood rather than any particular bad movie.
I don't watch anymore since I don't really have any interest in any recent movies or shows and I usually watch him or other people's opinions after I watch something myself.

Fascism is a good thing.

>>150215704
>How can people who don't sell me anything, or take money from me in any form, be "grifters"? Where's the grift?

If you aren't paying for the product, you are the product.

>>150213650
>>150213397
grifters exist on both sides anon. the ones on the right are in it for the profit and the ones on the left are in it for the fame & clout. i find the ones on the right are more respectable because they don't backstab each other (or at the very least aren't as ready to do so) like the ones on the left do.

that all said my problem with the ones on the right is they come off as some type of strawman or controlled opposition 99.9% of the time with how extreme some of them take it. call it performative, horseshoe theory or just point out where they stand on the overton window all you want but it's disingenuous and ultimately takes away the credibility from the more (for lack of a better word) "tangible" criticisms.

>inb4 "but being woke is a valid criticism"
at the end of the day being woke is a symptom of why something sucks not a cause. if something truly does suck then making it unwoke won't magically fix it and make it better.

>>150214125
>But they're all part of the same organization, just so they can have money at the end of the day.
grifters on the left aren't in it for the money because the vast majority of them are trustfund kids & champagne socialists.

>>150227411
I agree with everything you said, to tle last "." This whole "my side can't be subject to criticism"/"retards only exist on the other side" mentality needs to stop, because that's how people lose the plot.

>nes on the right is they come off as some type of strawman or controlled opposition 99.9% of the time with how extreme some of them take it.
EndymionTv. The retard comes into warhammer as a complete tourists, and starts goes full smartass. In his very first video he goes "Oh, I don't actually consume any warhammer content." Then he goes on a tirade about how woke don't know the warhammer lore, while he builds his whole argument against femstodes based on the fact that there can't be any fem spacemarines, not knowing that the custodes are NOTHING like space marines.
While I find femstodes stupid, shit like this makes everyone who has this opinion look like a bunch of casual, unhinged retards.

>>150225768
> He says MANUFACTURED opinions
I don't think you understand the term "manufactured opinion", as it doesn't work in the context you are using it.

Maybe people would pay you to hear your opinions if you didn't try to use terms you don't understand.

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>>150213397
Shouldn't this be the only Grifter we should talk about on here?

>>150226511
This.

>>150218325
>Let's go back to teenage girl slop
Why?

>>150225768
>He says MANUFACTURED opinions since he keeps on changing them based on the common consensus
One, not watching that bullshit. Fuck off.
Two, like what? Are we talking about him forming an opinion based on trailers, then seeing it and saying something else? Or are we talking about him stating an opinion very strongly in his review and then walking it back days later?

>>150213426
fpbp, fuck youtube video essays, they are for troons

>>150213397
lol

>>150213650
Critical drinker spends so long shitting on the women and ignoring the rest of the flaws the movie has. Like in his Terminator dark fate or whatever is the name of the one where they bring back the original Sara Connor, he spends the entire movie seething about the women. Which he's right, there's a massive woman wank in the movie. But what about the rest? He didn't notice the other problems? Is he blind? Is he limited to 20 minutes due to some YouTube bullshit? If that's the case, yikes organize it better?

>>150218889
Nope