i know, i know>implying it did anything right when it still failed to get picked upmy point is there's a reason why Kitty Bobo has generally positive reception as a pilot nowadays, even outside of furry circles. Wastelandia is clearly going for the same 'slice of life tween/early adult furry' thing, but it falls completely flat on its face and fails to be all that enticing compared to Kitty Bobo.
>feels like it was written by terminally online xitter users>forced gen alpha/late gen z slang/politics>some other third thing
>>150238183Kitty Bobo doesn't have a tranny whining about being misgendered
>>150238183The first one feels like it was written by people who actually went outside in an urban environment in the 1990s and experienced what life was like at the time.The second one was written by people who feel like they've never actually interacted with people outside of the internet in a meaningful way
the art style was definitely coolernot really sure what they're going for in wastelandia. the bnuuy girl is the only one with an appealing design to me
>>150238183>What did A Kitty Bobo Show do right that Wastelandia does wrong? It wasn't written by zoomers for one.
>>150238183Aside from the art style, >>150238474 summed it up. It helps to actually write from experience or literature and not internet posts for terminally online weirdos.
Sucks how Kitty Bobo can never be made (at least not the same as the pilot) since that asian couple making the show got divorced and each took their character with them.
>>150241454>that asian couple making the show got divorced and each took their character with them.when was this? i never knew about this
>>150238183Kitty Bobo was just Mission Hill with furries
>>150241454KekLiteral furry OC drama
>>150242531not that similar. might as well call all animated slice of life series in the early 2000s Mission Hill
>ughhh why should you be happy as a young adult in 2025 you should be depressed you should be DOOM SPHRALING UGGGHHHgee I wonder
>>150238474ding ding ding
>>1502414542.0 it is thenhttps://youtu.be/aNuF1QNzBhA
The utter seethe Wastelandia caused will never cease to perplex me. It's a 6 minute short on the internet and you've got people deciding to make it their life's mission to shit all over it like it's a fucking Star Wars film or some shit.
>>150248987Look man I wanted wastelandia to succeed so we can have lewds of the characters
>>150248903Neat find!
>>150238183Artists and cartoonists before social media used to just meet up irl and form their own exclusive clubs. They would make zines together, discuss stuff like politics and philosophy together, and just all around act freely and independent of the rest of the world and what trends everybody else is following.When we watched cartoons as a kid, they came from people who were in these “exclusive clubs” and it would introduce you to a vibe you haven’t felt before.This is what made cartoons like Kitty Bobo captivating.Wastelandia doesn’t feel like I’m being introduced to someone else’s unique world. The artstyle, the vibes, the humour and characters is all just shit that just comes from being on social media a lot.If you’ve been on social media at all, congratulations, you are now just as “unique” and “different” as the creator is.Wasn’t very hard, huh? Wastelandia chases the vibes of being underground and indie but the harsh truth is that anybody could have made this.
>>150248987you sound more like you're seething no offensepeople just see a mediocre pilot for what it is mulatto
>>150242531Ehhh I can kinda see it
>>150238183neither show does it right. they don't have the humor that Mission Hill has and that's key to making these shows good.
>>150238183Kitty Bobo is awesome, whereas Wastelandia is lame. That's the secret, my dude.
>>150238183If nothing else, Kitty Bobo showed things happening to the character, which was engaging. Whereas Wastlandia showed everything in a flashback. This is almost always the wrong choice as it takes the tension out of the narrative. Sure, in a Rashomon type story it can work but it's something to avoid generally. There also weren't really any jokes and the characters weren't established well. We hear that the doctor girl is anxious but we don't really see that, the artist one barely had a personality. The internet one wa alright, but if they were going to do the chronically online thing they should've went further with it. The creator often recaps internet drama so they could've made it something more interesting than complaining about Reddit (no one likes Reddit. Even my wife who uses Reddit thought that was cringe)Also, (and this is a common writing mistake they shouldn't feel too bad about) the characters are a weird type of pseudo relatable that aren't actually. It's like that Hollywood thing where the characters are written by nepo babies so they act sort of like real people, but they all have these interesting jobs (like being in medical school or art school) that isn't an option for regular people and that they don't relate to and just makes them seem like an Other. Ditto for the fact that they live in a majoretro area and don't seem to have jobs other than the retail worker. It's something that a rich kid wouldn't think about but gives an uncanny valley feeling to regular people. The retail worker is a step in the right direction, but they need to all be real people like that (and she doesn't make enough to live with them in that apartment.)
>>150251323The city begins to feel like the entire world to people who live there, and it can make for an interesting setting if used correctly, but in these times we live in I think it would be better to set them somewhere that seems more relatable to the average person (not an East Coast seaside town, place) Unfortunately they also have that obnoxious liberal personality where they have to virtue signal their politics at every opportunity and act like they're more cultured and intellectual than they are. It's like that cringery set up you see where a bunch of them get together to drink wine among theor plants and talk about racial justice (puke.) That's just a general thing. Honestly, I would recommend just not doing a sitcom about people living in their apartment with no hook. Its boring. If you're doing a slice of life/Iyashakei type thing that can work in animation, but otherwise you typically want to see something a little larger than life. Like you can go anywhere and do most anything in a cartoon without having to worry about logistics and budget, try to take advantage of that. And if you're committed to trying to do it then you need to make the characters relatable, interesting, and funny to a majority of the audience.
>>150238264>some other third thingWhat other third thing though?
>>150250675almost all these pilots are mediocre, at least this one had the decency to not be a 30+ minute waste of my time
>>150250564Interesting perspective, actually.
>>150238183everything.
>>150250564Mission Hill and Kitty Bobo were a peek into the young adult Gen X underground city life.Wastelandia is a peek into some zoomies discord server.
>>150238183I haven’t seen Kitty Bobo but I’m kinda sick of seeing modern social media shit in cartoons, and I say this as a zoomer like Izzzy. Now granted it’s not like the entire thing was about Reddit but still
>>150252550>>150252558>>150252564Fox girl is better than any of these three
>DUDE CHECK OUT MY CELLPHONEKitty Bobo was always hot garbage only propped up by the internet's love of Dante Basco and his eternal awkward teenager voice.
>>150252674Second episode was gonna have him be a roommate from hell to his foreign monkey friend.
Which has the most fappable characters Loki IRL or Wastelandia?
>>150252815Wastelandia easily.Pan’s style is not a fappable style.
>>150252879>Pan’s style is not a fappable style.IDK about that
>>150252674>DUDE THE ENTIRE SHOW WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT THE PILOT'S PLOTI refuse to believe people actually think this and that this isn't just low-effort shitposting.
>>150252933How is this scribble supposed to prove him wrong
>>150238183Kind of weird to end your pilot on a line and scene where it looks like the main characters are about to jump off of a billboard and commit suicide.
>>150242602Not even that, Furry OC custody drama
Damn you furries
>>150240117What if it was?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zelKBoUqG4U
Cute kitty boy
>>150256520That wasn't written by someone who looks like a man and identifies as a woman when it clearly is a tranny man who hires tranny voice actors.Also the ending isn't very clear what he bought neither did the receipt problem come up showing he's not very good at logic writing.
>>150250564No... back then animators used to go to SCHOOOL TO SKEEEWLLL TO A COLLLEGE THAT AcTUALLY TEACHES YOU, not to a glorified "Lol draw this beanmouth and aren't men just the wooorssttt especially Trump >:((( ? Oh btw here's your 30 year old animator teacher who can't draw and can't animate a basic walk cycle, roflcopter"
>>150256520maybe it was better to leave Kitty Bobo in the 2000's after all
>>150256638That is a major factor
stupid thread
At least they made the tranny furries somewhat cute and sex appealing. If only it applies into irl. But god dammit why don't they put effort on the voice where they sound like a nasally nerd guy in their 30s.
>>150257934why are you so mean
>>150257931cuteness