Remember that one guy who kept posting about how much he hates "good characters"?
Lex posts on /co/?
not really.I mean, /co/ is fully of idiotic contrarians who have undoubtedly expressed a similar opinion at some point in time so that doesn't really narrow it down much.
>>150257118He had his own specific copypasta and same pic of either Supes or Cap.
>>150257118I'm going to make a few bold claims here anon, and feel free to disagree with me.On the internet, acting like an asshole is far more normal than acting polite, kind or good. Therefore, acting like an ass on the internet is not contrarian but conformism.A contrarian is someone who is polite and nice on the internet, despite the tone of conversation.
>>150256998I remember the guy who kept pushing EVA in every 12 forever thread so that he could make stealth EVA threads on /co/.
>>150256998Alan Moore?
>>150257242No real point in being nice or civil given 90% of the people that say shit have some kind of agenda or bias which they try to push. And only complain that people are mean because they can’t defend their position and so instead need to resort to playing victim and gaining pity.
>>150257242>i-it's just about the attitude! kindness is le punk rock!!No smart ass, it's the content of opinion going against consensus PURELY FOR ITS OWN SAKE and not over any real conviction
>>150257530>>i-it's just about the attitude! kindness is le punk rock!!I don't think contrarianism is the same as punk. But I certain wouldn't know punk from a hole in the wall so take that with whatever salt you like.>content of opinion going against consensus PURELY FOR ITS OWN SAKE and not over any real convictionTrue, but if the opinion is the consensus in the first place it can hardly be contrary to popular opinion now can it?
>>150257449That really hasn't been my experience at all, but finding netiquette on the internet today is rare enough to where it's going to be a small sample size no matter which position you take on it.
>>150257449> 90% of the people that say shit have some kind of agenda or bias which they try to pushLet me help you anon. Everyone’s got bias. There’s no such thing as an unbiased opinion. The issue you’re finding is that very many people have opinions other than your own.
>>150256998No, but it's not hard to imagine that person. Everyone has met that person at some point in their life.
>>150257654That shit only matters if you want to make people think you’re more reasonable if you can’t defend the shit you say.
>>150257986No it’s more that people can’t defend their opinions so they instead just spam them and hope that volume with compensate for their lack of logic or anything to actually back up what they say. But I suppose that looks like not liking an opinion to a deprecated manchild.
>>150258093>>150258124So you have repeatedly asserted.
>>150258093Having a defensible position and acting civil are not mutually exclusive concepts.
>>150258124Yes yes everyone’s stupid but you
>>150258284It’s shit like this why I don’t act polite because faggots like you always devolve into lying or hurling logical fallacies when you don’t get your way. Like where did I say everyone was stupid but me? I didn’t, but since you can’t argue anything else you have to make shit up that you can.
>>150258261It’s more that the people that whine about people being civil can never defend their opinions. But I suppose your head made you think I said anything close to that.
>>1502572424chan is contrarian in opinion and conformist in behavior, simple as.
>>150258362Have you thought that perhaps the reason he was being impolite to you was because you hurled an insult at him first and he's responding to tone?
>>150258362You started off by being rude and dumb, why would I humor you
>>150258392Then the simple rebuttal is that no, a complaint about uncivil behavior and having a defensible position are not necessarily related and therefore also not mutually exclusive concepts either. It is not physically or logically impossible for a person to complain about rudeness and also defend their position rationally.
>>150256998> Ev’ry man has his job to do> And my job is doing good!> Ev’ry night when my job is through> I fold my tights, proud to know I’ve done all I could!> It’s a satisfying feeling when you hang up your cape> To know that you’ve averted murder, larceny and rape!
>>150258431That's actually a pretty good way of putting that anon, thanks.
>>150256998I like how blatant Lex's hypocrisy is in the new movie. He complains about Supes making the common man weaker by comparison but he assembles an army to completely decimate the poor third world country, so much they can't even fight back. He tries to make Superman to be an anarchic conqueror despite literally creating his own one that IS that
>>150258821>''BECAUSE YOU ARE DESTROYING US">he says as he's splitting the Earth in half with a dimensional rift
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/lVpngemMn8yF7ANarofdBQ/https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/hRAfrdry0nBX_PxZ4uJ1Hg/Dude just hates capes in general-or claims to, anyway
>>150258451>>150258463I don’t give a shit about you being impolite, I care more that you proved my point and started hurling logical fallacies like a child. >You started off by being rude and dumb, why would I humor youNot really humoring. More proving what I said wrong. I mean you clearly disagree with what I said. But since you can’t actually say how it’s wrong you’re just impotently raging. I mean if it’s stupid then you must be a full fledged retard. Or it’s not stupid and you just can’t argue it and have to say it is to cope.
>>150258524>Then the simple rebuttal is that no, a complaint about uncivil behavior and having a defensible position are not necessarily related and therefore also not mutually exclusive concepts eitherIt isn’t this that was never something I said and it’s something that you brought into this because you can’t actually argue what I said.
>>150259186One of those posters is not me.
>>150259225Samefags always drop the argument just to get defensive.
>>150259215>people being civil can never defend their opinions"Never" is a pretty strong word here that you used. I simply stated, clearly, that this statement here is incorrect.
>>150259246Or in this case, there's more than one person here disagreeing with you.
>>150259261>people being civil can never defend their opinionsWho are you quoting? I never said this champ? You having an episode? Need to take your SRI’s?
>>150259304I mean you could prove that instead of just saying it like someone that isn’t samefagging would. But I suppose you also could have said “its not me” while also addressing what else I said in the post instead of ignoring it just to hyper focus on getting called out.
>>150259324>Who are you quoting?This guy:>>150258392Did I mistake you for someone else?
/co/ is the most autistic board on 4chan by a large margin.
James Gunn is a pedophile
>>150259360>It’s more that the people that whine about people being civil can never defend their opinions>people being civil can never defend their opinionsSo are you an ESL or did you just purposely misconstrue that due to not being able to actually argue what I said? Because it’s literally just a matter of copy pasting. Yet you couldn’t even do that.
>>150259380Who cares
>>150259356>I mean you could prove thatSure thing, how would you like me to do that?> also addressing what else I said in the post Not sure how, "perhaps he is responding to tone" is a logical fallacy.
>>150259412>It’s more that the people that whine about people being civil can never defend their opinionsDirectly and bluntly: Yes. Actually a person whining about civility can also defend their positions. There's nothing stopping someone from logically and consistently doing so.
>>150259427>Sure thing, how would you like me to do thatOkay so you’re either a tourist or you’re purposely playing dumb. Either way it’s a strike one.>Not sure how, "perhaps he is responding to tone" is a logical fallacyMaking a strawman is a logical fallacy though
>>150259461>Yes. Actually a person whining about civility can also defend their positionsIs that why you’re not doing it and every attempt has failed, and so you’ve had to result to logical fallacies and lies? Not to mention you haven’t given anything to show I’m wrong. >There's nothing stopping someone from logically and consistently doing soSo what’s stopping you?
>>150259495>Okay so you’re either a tourist or you’re purposely playing dumb.Can't read your mind and I didn't wanna assume. Want a screenshot?>Making a strawman is a logical fallacy thoughI'm not misrepresenting anybody though. It's presenting a very plausible explanation for him being rude to you.>Is that why you’re not doing it and every attempt has failed, and so you’ve had to result to logical fallacies and lies?Haven't done either of these so far.>So what’s stopping you?Honestly I haven't been complaining about uncivil or rude behavior here but nonetheless that's what I've been doing.
>>150259581>Can't read your mind and I didn't wanna assumeThere is literally nothing else it can be. But thank you for showing you were playing dumb. Also you’re still stalling. >I'm not misrepresenting anybody though. It's presenting a very plausible explanation for him being rude to youExcept you did since I never said everyone but me was stupid, which is what you said before you started samefagging.>Haven't done either of these so farWhy are you answering questions for another person in another chain bud? That’s supposed to be a whole other person? This isn’t even the post that I said it in. >Honestly I haven't been complaining about uncivil or rude behavior here but nonetheless that's what I've been doingThat’s how this interaction started.
What do you care more about, being right or winning the argument?
>>150259760Why are you deflecting and passive aggressively posting?
>>150259709>There is literally nothing else it can beFair enough, here you go.>Except you did since I never said everyone but me was stupid, which is what you said before you started samefagging.That was not my post, sorry. Can't post more than one image in a post so let me just take another screenshot and post it since that seems to be what you prefer.>Why are you answering questions for another person in another chain bud? Were you not accusing me of making the fallacy earlier or did I misunderstand? >That’s how this interaction started.Could you link or quote for me what you mean and clarify?
>>150259835Second screenshot.
>>150259835>Fair enough, here you goSo you’re posting from two devices, good to know. It’s especially pathetic since you just confirmed you were samefagging by showing you were both of the retards I have been arguing with.>That was not my postIt was since, and you are a samefag. You have made that clear.>Were you not accusing me of making the fallacy earlier or did I misunderstandYou did it in both chains while larping. First it was saying that I said “everyone but me is stupid” and then in the other by purpose misconstruing what I said here >>150259261>completely ignore how he replied to a post that wasn’t for himYeah I figured you would. Are you going to try and make this a knock down drag out thing where you ignore it and say it doesn’t matter while doing everything you can to cope?>Could you link or quote for me what you mean and clarifySo you want me to spoon feed you shit from the thread the two chains you are participating in? Yeah you really can’t help but stall when you fail.
>>150259864What the hell does that prove? That’s a post you made to me. Why would it show a (You) unless you were me?
>>150259947>So you’re posting from two devices, good to know.This is why I asked what would prove it. What would be good enough; you're now saying that's not good enough. I'm not sure what else you would like at this point if you're going to refuse things given to you that you specifically are asking for. Can't give ya anything else, sorry.>You did it in both chains while larping. First it was saying that I said “everyone but me is stupid” and then in the other by purpose misconstruing what I said here Two different people. Didn't misconstrue what you said. You said, "It’s more that the people that whine about people being civil can never defend their opinions." Whining about people being civil and defending an opinion rationally are not necessarily related and thus, not mutually exclusive. You very specifically said "never.">completely ignore how he replied to a post that wasn’t for himWhich post? Be specific. I can't argue or even disagree if you mention something in passing but expect me to just know without mentioning what you're referring to.>So you want me to spoon feed you shit from the thread the two chains you are participating in? Yeah you really can’t help but stall when you fail.Again. Be specific. I can't argue or disagree with something that you won't present here.>>150259965Again, not sure what else I could possibly give you here.
>>150260347>This is why I asked what would prove itIt would have if you didn’t immediately out yourself by replying to a comment for someone else. You know not making it obvious you’re samefagging? >Can't give ya anything else, sorry.You never could, since you can’t really prove you’re not doing something that you’re doing. You can just lie about it.>Two different peopleIs that why you replied as if you were both here >>150259581 because you replied to shit that were in two separate chains that go back to the start. >Which postYou out yourself by playing dumb like this. You have done it twice only to reveal that you know exactly what I’m talking about. I mean it wasn’t even ten replies ago. This is what I means. You cry about civility but act like the most dishonest fag possible. >Again. Be specificIt’s not that hard to go through your own posts. There a fucking link to each one. But you can’t do that since it would mean you had to actually be honest and argue. Which you can’t do so you just play dumb to cope.>
>>150260526OH!I see now.
>>150260556>playing dumb failed>had to say it’s bait now to copeI have been saying the same shit this whole time. Yet you only call it bait now that you’ve been called out and I shoved your own pathetic shit in your face and you know you can’t argue it.
>>150258953Jeez, this is some next level projection. Like peering into someone's twisted mind. Kinda it's own kinda creepy.
>>150259812It's an argument that supercedes yours
>>150256998I love this image simply because it is antithesis to this shithole in which I enjoy funposting on.
>>150260837Don't go along with it, anon.
>>150260875>funpostingI haven't seen this term in a bit. Is it totally synonymous with shitposting? Is shitposting totally synonymous with trolling?
>>150256998>>150258821Isn't Gunn's Lex loosely based on Elon Musk? Musk said kindness is weakness and he accused Sesame Street of being commie propaganda. He'd definitely hate Superman
>>150260837>>150260893Not really. It’s something you’re using to deflect from the fact you failed to argue. And now you’re talking to yourself and continuing to cry bait because you fucked up.
>>150261027>Musk said kindness is weaknessAnd the hypocrite that he is, he complained when people were celebrating watching his company's stock fall. Wouldn't know if Gunn's Lex is based on Musk specifically though, since there's so many people who are like that it could literally be referring to anyone. No shortage of people who decry the kind of attitude the more modern Superman leans towards. Though I've seen a few anons talk about it before and I think it's important to the topic: When did Superman adopt the sort of 'boyscout' attitude we see today? Was it a 90's or 80's thing? Because I've seen a few posts mention that Golden or Silver age superman was a bit different than what most modern depictions of him are.
>>150261165Golden Age Superman was the champion of the new deal and targeted corrupt businessmen and politicians so he was Musk's natural enemy
>>150261217Well yeah, but I mean there's still a difference between that depiction and say, STAS and DCAU Justice League Superman. Or All-Star a few years later. Just for some examples I mean. In Golden age he can be seen as a bit more tough on crime kinda thing. Not to imply that Superman from later iterations wasn't, just more of the focus on Superman in later stuff was more on the hope and goodness of mankind rather than being someone hard on those criminals who did their best to earn that rough treatment.
>>150261353Tough times create a tough Superman
>>150261499Totally agreed. Superman's absolutely a product of his time, whatever time that might be.Do you think that today's Superman is a product of people wanting or needing the kind of hope and compassion he's come to embody more recently?
>>150259186I’m the guy you were sure was samefag replies, btw. > Not really humoring. More proving what I said wrongThat’s humoring. All the following replies prove what u already knew, you’re looking to debate and I chose not to engage. You come off as too angry, dumb and egotistical for me to find a good faith discussion with you rewarding.
>>150261030If you don't care about being right then you have no right to argue
>>150260993>where_do_you_think_you_are.jpg
>>150261658>>150262093Best to ignore him, he's going to try and goad you into a ruse cruise.
>>150262165It's less that I'm incredulous that you enjoy shitposting and or trolling so much as just wanting to know about the semantics of what shitposting and funposting means. Back in the day shitposting was pretty much the same as trolling. Just wanted to know if that's changed is all.
>>150256998you made me think of the Akagi guy on /v/
>>150257118Here you go, Chief.
>>150256998I feel like, this is what Spider-Man is currently going through with whoever these hack ass new comic leads working on his comics are doing in trying to replace him.
>>150261658>>150262093>>150262176You mean the guy who replied to his own post in another chain where he was pretending to be another person. Played dumb when it was called out, and then started crying bait when it was shoved in his face? And now you think that going back and replying again after waiting two hours is going to change that fact? >That’s humoring. All the following replies prove what u already knew, you’re looking to debate and I chose not to engageThe funny thing here is you say that I know it but you don’t say it’s wrong. Which you clearly thought since you took issue with what I said in the first place. But good job showing you know you can’t argue like I said.>If you don't care about being right then you have no right to argueNever said I didn’t care. I know you need to desperately create strawmen to all for your deflection topic to happen but you’re not going to get rid of the fact you were caught samefagging and then decided to double down.>Best to ignore him, he's going to try and goad you into a ruse cruiseNotice how pointing out his own behavior and showing how it proves he’s samefagging is a ruse. In reality he’s just seething and crying bait because he fucked himself over and couldn’t keep track of the replies for his larp.
>>150263110Yeah
>>150263110You have no right to argue
>>150263193>>150263221Oh but I do, it’s called the 1st amendment. Maybe just accept you’re wrong and stop being a faggot.
>>150256998>i was sent to this planet to conquer and breed the women to build up a kryptonian empire>im hiding a lot of information>i also have godlike powers that makes me almost unassailable>omg some guy does trust me despite the risk i pose to the entire planet
>>150263577The thing is if Lex wasn’t who he is these would all be very valid reasons to be mistrustful of Superman. He seems to not understand that he’s not human. Yet wants to come across as such and tell everyone that he is. Like the gap in power is pretty vast.
>>150263303That's a right to free speech, not a right to argue
>>150256998Superman? Good character? The man who causes multiple 9/11s every time he brawls in a city?
>>150258953>I HATE good characters>Sharkfag>KFP2-Shrek 2 bashing>I hate Thor>Cuck RichardsThese are all the same guy btw
>>150260722Meh, I doubt it's anything more than a shitpost meant to bait anons into a furor. I hardly ever take anybody's post here as a genuine reflection of their beliefs
>>150263818Arguing is part of free speech retard. You’re able to voice and argue things without being forced not to. What do you think freedom of the press doesn’t fall under it since it’s print and not the spoken word?
>>150264005Not a bad position to take, especially considering this thread.
>>150263888You're thinking of Snyderman.
>>150263303Okay
>>150264035>Arguing is part of free speechNo it isn't