I think that "children's stories" shouldn't exist. Making art specifically for children is infantilizing at best, mentally damaging at worst. It's the main reason why Disney adults are a thing and they have the literacy of children. It would be good if children's stories actually served a purpose in elevating a child into more adult content, but from what we've seen, that isn't the case. They're used by mass corporations to indoctrinate people into endless nostalgia loops and emotional attachment to their products.Stories should be good no matter what age you read them at. Anything else is insulting the intelligence of children. I think we're at a point now where you can't just make something and say "it's for children" since there's barely any market for it anymore. Everything is slowly becoming more and more for adults anyway. There's a natural tendency for children to look at works aimed at adults.
>>150260886>I think that "children's stories" shouldn't exist.I think fuck you, don't tell people what kind of stories they can write.
>>150260886Copy pasta bot spam thread again.
>>150260886Why do you blame Walt Disney for playing the game right. Not his fault he managed to play off society's wishes back then, which indirectly caused the present
hey why not just let people tell storiesand do the age stuff after the factthat way you dont have to censor yourself or force gratitious sex into what you makeand the stuff just serves the story, the story doesn't serve the stuff
>>150260886>I think that "children's stories" shouldn't exist.I think that bot threads that get reposted regularly shouldn't exist either, but here we are yet again.
Saying something is for children is a neutral observation. It doesn't actually explain or demonstrate if something is good or bad.
>>150260886WTF is this thread?
I don't fully agree when people say "Stop dumbing down kids movies, kids are not stupid!". There is currently an entire generation of kids obsessed with nonsensical garbage like skibidi toilet and Roblox. Earlier this year, The Minecraft Movie made significantly more money at the box office than actually good movies aimed at children from the past five years like Spiderverse, Encanto, and The Bad Guys.Can you really blame Hollywood executives for misunderstanding what kids want when little Timmy is running around shouting "chicken jockey" and rewatching Moana 2 for the billionth time?
>>150263521If you constantly give kids one type of thing, then of course they're only going to want that one type of thing.
>>150263521>Spider verse (2), Encanto, and The Bad Guys.All shit
>>150260886>children should legally be adults>then I can fuck themwe got ourselves a regular Louis XV here!
>>150263521>Children like cartoonish horror-comedy>Children like open world resource collection games>Children like Reality TV editing >Children like bizarre ARGs that turn into power scalingNothing has changed. Except the channels and movie studios, they just forgot how to appeal.
>>150263521>"Stop dumbing down kids movies, kids are not stupid!"Then they seethe that a character says "stealing is fun" in a sarcastic manner because they think children are retarded.Stephen Hogenburg didn't get diabetes for this.
>>150263521Just because you don't understand why kids are watching Skibidi Toilet and playing Roblox doesn't mean that they're doing it because they're stupid. I mean, kids ARE stupid, but the argument is that you shouldn't treat them as such, or else they'll be stupid forever.Kids are watching Skibidi Toilet because it's short, flashy, and one of the few action shows still aimed at children. It's essentially no different from Transformers; giant robots swinging at each other and screaming. And kids find that fucking cool. In an era where every cartoon is either wacky SoL hijinks or brown girl adventures, it's no wonder they flock to something as simple as 'here's a guy blowing up a helicopter to save the earth! What more do you need?'Kids are playing Roblox for much the same reason you played flash games back when you were young; because there's such a wide variety of games to play, more coming out every day, and the moment you get bored of one, you can just swap to another. It's fast, engaging content; that also happens to be filled with pedophiles.You can argue that both of these are childish, shallow distractions instead of deep, thoughtfully crafted media, but both of them are simply filling a niche that doesn't exist anymore. And the niche doesn't exist for a variety of reasons, but, these are things just filling the vacuum. When there's no other option, of course children flock to what remains.
>>150263521Roblox is a game from 2006. It's older than the Nintendo Wii.
>>150264271Wrong fag
>>150260886Go away Moorefag.
>>150260886is that you, ms. elementary school teacher who made us read a book we didn't want to read
>>150266161Glad your teacher made you do that.
>>150260886Children's literature has existed since at least the time of the romans.I'll hazard a guess the person who wrote this has a cultural critique degree, and REALLY FUCKING HATES Disney specifically and America generally.
>>150260886Interesting
>>150260886>>150263521
>>150270316>conservatism is when you're an assholeWell then you're being pretty conservative, I must say.
>>150260886I think that children shouldn't exist, so you got my vote
>>150260886Trouble is my good anon that making stories to be accessible is kind of important for getting audiences on board. No one cares about your artistic bullshit if you don't meet them halfway, fundamentally their lives aren't being improved by exposure to your million-dollar daydreams.The reason Disney adults are dumb is because they don't actually like cinema or animation but have been unfairly categorized as fans of both because demographics are the fetish of psycho booklice and for some reason, they're the ones trusted by our highest officers to inform cultural development going forward.
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>>150270659Bot?
What does it mean to write stories for children? Self-censorship based on race, creed, sexuality, and depictions of violence, or writing in the language of children.
I feel that people have problems accepting that children are people. Parents especially. Because children will exhibit sexuality, greed, violent thoughts, etc... it's something that adults have difficulty grasping. Even in liberal circles, where nowadays there is a prevailing belief that children have no agency of their own. This is contrary to the old way of thinking, which painted a more sociological, less economically based picture of how children behave.
>>150272069>I feel that people have problems accepting that children are people.This is pretty much the biggest issue. People think that they're fundamentally different creatures that happen to become normal when they turn 18.
>>150265014Exactly. Their mainstream entertainment is mostly slop by adults who want to tell children what is best for them and their parent’s wallet, the kids smell that and go for the shit that appeals directly to them instead because they have internet.
>>150270316Lol
>>150260886Your primary issue seems to be the inability to discern between art and entertainment products designed to make money. That's a far more serious issue than whether or not silly pictures for kids are good.
>>150274594I judge entertainment by the same metrics as artwork. They should be judged the same on their function.
>>150273218Children deserve better than the shit they get now.
>>150265014They're not, Skibidi Toilet is far too violent for kids and they're jumping (if they haven't been a main stay) to Minecraft because Roblox is on it's deathbed and might become another Club Penguin where it's only kept alive by fan servers.Kids NEVER found giant robots swinging at each other and screaming cool, in fact they always found that lame, what kids do find cool is stuttering pigs, ducks who lisp, and wise cracking rabbits who bug people, thats what kids and adults find cool.Due to Roblox's pedo problem they jumped ship to Minecraft, and they rather be playing Mario anyway.
Some of you don't seem to realize you're talking to an autist or a bot that cycles through variations of the same prompt.
>>150260886Stop spamming this schizo.
>>150276325>Skibidi Toilet is far too violent for kids*insert Bender laugh harder gif here*
This could've been an interesting thread if OP was smart enough to say "censoring blood/violence/nudity/etc to make something more 'kid-friendly' actually makes it less kid-friendly." but he isn't.
>>150276649That is the case, it's clear that you never watched Skibidi Toilet in your life.
>>150276963"far too violent for kids" is not a real thing
>>150277022YES IT IS! It's why we have ratings in the first place.
>children need to be faggot freaks like me and be exposed to sex, drugs, and swearing... *heavy breathing* why do age limits exist? it's all arbitrary nonsense...Yeah, we get it, you're one of "those types"
>>150277099>I have no argument so I'll call you a pedo
>>150277056>society must be right because...IT JUST HAS TO BE, OK!
>>150260886If we went of the direction of having kids do chores, homework, and then going to bed and nothing else, would things get better or worse?
>>150277898Better, hard times being in strong (wo)men.
>pour out your soul making something inspirational to entertain children >lose to this
>>150278493are you the latest board lolcow
>>150276325>because Roblox is on it's deathbedIsnt a single roblox game literally the most played game in the world? That grow your garden shit or somethingIve never played Roblox but they got insane numbers like more than steam
>>150279329Yeah, that guy is exaggerating hard. Roblox is not going anywhere.
>>150278493Thats a older demographic.If anything what the far left is trying to peddle as of late lost to this.
>>150279485Is the "far left" in the room with you?
>>150276325>Kids NEVER found giant robots swinging at each other and screaming coolU wot m8Transformers is one of the most successful kiddie franchises out there. Optimus Prime's death in the 1986 movie was one of the most infamously child-traumatizing moments in film.
>>150282269No, it wasn't, Gummi Bears which came out at the same time however was.
>>150260886The more you repeat this the bigger of a faggot it makes you, seriously you're talking like a librarian from an 80s movie, either shut the fuck up or find the nearest gun and blow your brains out, whichever is easier
>>150266975...like any intelligent person?
>>150260886Lots of words yo. What does it says?
>>150282567Faggot
>>150286078No, that was the case.
>>150277056>>150276963Kids specifically seek out violent content, gross content, offensive content, and content adults tell them not to watch. Also are you like a thirteen year old who doesn't think you're a kid now, or is in denial it's for roughly the eight - fourteen demographic? And only fourteen if they grew up with it. If anyone over fourteen is watching it, it's because they started watching it at a younger age. Skibidi Toilet is for kids on the basis of no adult wants to watch it, and only children are watching it. This is like idiots who try to claim Roblox is an all ages game when the only reason they're playing it as adults is they're Youtubers making content, or they started it as kids and never stopped.
>>150288043No they don't, kids HATE violent, gross, offensive content, and other forums of content adults tell them not to watch, because they know it's bad.Skibidi Toilet is not for kids because it's far too violent for them, Looney Tunes, Terry Toons, Noveltoons, Tom and Jerry, Droopy/Tex Avery, Woody Woodpecker, Popeye and Mighty Mouse while having "violent" slap stick it's not killing people in a hyper graphic and detail matter like it is in Skibidi Toilet, it's just cartoon violent slap stick like in The 3 Stooges, it's violent enough and it's on the same level as whenever they play a rough sport (but exaggerated to the point that kids know that it can't happen in real life).When Nick peddled the gross out stuff they just flip over to Disney Channel (Back when they aired the classic Disney Shorts) or Cartoon Network (Because pre-1948 Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, Droopy/Tex Avery, pre-1967 Hanna Barbera and Popeye) until some 50s/60s cartoons like Rocky and Bullwinkle and The Alvin Show, post-58 Paramount shorts (it's a very long story), UPA shorts, Looney Tunes or Tiny Toons aired on Nick, you know, the shows kids and their parents actually wanted to watch.And of course there was Fox where everyone just wanted to watch Animaniacs and The Disney Afternoon which was respected as fuck.Theres a reason why Tiny Toons, Animaniacs and The Disney Afternoon shows were considered cream of the crop while Ren and Stimpy, The Simpsons and Rugrats (which I like mind you) were considered low effort slop back in the day.>But The Simpsons...Only got peddled by Fox because they didn't own the rights to Tiny Toons and Animaniacs, otherwise they would've killed off The Simpsons after The Tracey Ullman shorts and put all their efforts into Tiny Toons with Warner Bros instead, all the way to the point that Warner Bros ends up buying Fox instead of Disney.I'm 35 years old by the way.
