Was this whole conspiracy history actually real? Yeah at the end the teacher goes "he knows" and shit but i feel like other prequel stuff shows otherwise? Also the rest of history seems to have actually happened in universe so maybe it was some annunaki shit.
>>150291836The way I reconciled as a kid was either>It was bullshit and Numbuh 1 just stumbled upon a fake history some adults believe>It was originally intended to be the actual backstory (animatrix homage aside) and they decided to change it as the show went on
>>150291896What is this. Asking as someone who never saw either of these.
And do you hear that BZZZZTTTT COMING FROM THE FLORESCENT LIGHTS ABOVE YOUR HEAD?!THAT'S THE ADULT MICROWAVE CRANIAL JELLIFIER!SLOWLY TURNING OUR BRAINS INTO MILKSHAKES! Young me's sides were exploding as he started going crazy.
>>150291948Before th wachowskis went crazy and started cutting parts of their bodies off they had this rad idea of contracting a bunch of animation studios to tell some supplementary stories about the matrix.
>>150291836>>150291896IIRC Warburton confirmed 99% was bs but just one, one VERY specific (comedic even) part was legit
>>150291948>LeftThe Animatrix segment called The Second Renaissance that's the backstory to the movies>RightKids Next Door episode Operation ARCHIVE which is an overt homage to the episode
>>150292258thank you!
>>150291896>>150291836Personally i think it's kid propaganda, basically a kid wing conspiracy theory to radicalize them against adults. Based on the Gknd mentions and the animatic i imagine the actual Kid Vs Adult thing is bullshit created by one of the "elder kid races" and history, society, etc. Is mostly just normal. We see most adults and most kids aren't too dissimilar to each other all things considered, adults like Stickybeard are perfectly capable of behaving and loving things kids do, maybe the aliens at the top were just making everyone fight because of their own issues.
>>150291836>Yeah at the end the teacher goes "he knows"How is media literacy this bad that was just a joke ending/stinger to be forgotten by the next episode. You used to see that kind of ending of an episode all the time
>>150291836>>150291896Honestly it's pretty impressive how far the parallels go, and as far as anime references go it's just obscure enough to not be cringe inducing
>>150291836I think its OBVIOUSLY not really, because Father's backstory is fake.Numbuh 0 shows that he was just a normal kid when young.
>>150292435Kids Next Door actually gradually built up its lore as it went on so I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask what that particular ending was about. It's not like Dexter's Lab where the episodes were 100% self-contained and Dexter being turned into a sandwich was an obvious joke.
How on earth such a show managed to have such layered political and espionage drama kino and complex characters and motivations?We were so fucking robbed not getting GKND
>>150292197Obviously the cranial jellifier
>>150292197Its the Rainbow monkeys isnt it?
>>150292435I used to think that back then as well, but then they started doing that kid conspiracy shit in later episodes so im inclined to think theres something deeper
>>150292504>Kids Next Door actually gradually built up its loreDoesn't mean it can't have self contained episodes/joke endings as well
>>150293001Sure but when the entire episode is about background lore in a series with a lot of background lore, even if it was intended as a joke ending it's still pretty reasonable to be confused by it. Kids Next Door had lots of joke endings but from what I remember this was the only one with real lore implications if that was the intent.
Bump
>>150292197I always thought the moon thing was real since they've been there since before the space race, if I remember correctly.
>>150291836KND had a really fucked up lore. Father is treated like a joke and allowed to live even though he keeps former KND members ENSLAVED AND BRAINWASHED. In the light of Epstein and pizzagate, it's not so funny anymore.
>>150292197This makes the most sense
>>150291836No
>>150291836Remind me again what kind of lore shit was revealed in this episode?
>>150295822Animatrix ripoff, basically kids created adults, adults rebel, wipe kids off of earth and eventually start families with them which is their version of getting mstrixed according to Numbah One's manifesto thing
>>150291836I feel like some of it was legit enough for the Adults to be concerned, but much of it was Nigel overexaggerating.
>>150292483I interpreted it as a young Grandfather actually
>>150296410Makes sense, but i think its implied its a whole line of grownups who do it. Hence why i think it's annunaki shit. Ties in with the GKND too
>>150292161>Before th wachowskis went crazy and started cutting parts of their bodies off...le...wat
>>150297351They're both transwomen now, he mean cutting off their wangs and stuff
>>150291836Alright on a semi-unrelated note what was up with this kid?>Shorter than the rest>Lives near a bunch of factories>Dad works two jobs>concerningly dumb for his age (around 9 or 10)Wtf
>>150297711He's an australian immigrant.Beyond that, he's just a normal dumbass who's short for his age.
>>150297711He's an Aussie
>>150292309>Personally i think it's kid propaganda, basically a kid wing conspiracy theory to radicalize them against adults.The concept of this is so fucking funny
>>150297711Aussie immigrant means he's lower middle class and his parents gotta work 2 jobs like the criminal descenants they are
>>150292483Isn't his backstory in this is that he's an Imaginary friend/tulpa?
>>150297351You know how the main villain is always referring to Neo as "Mr. Anderson." and in the last fight he replies "My Name is Neo."There's a reason for that.
>>150291836It's all very metaphorical. The truth is a parody of the Garden of Eden where the trees themselves created humans as caretakers, but we broke free and stole the power to procreate from the trees by modifying them to slowly transform into humans. Thus, why kids have to grow up, then old, and finally die.
>>150297711Cursed number
>>150297711He's just Australian
>>150291896Was Animatrix such a big thing back then?I remember watching it, but aside from some cool bits, not being that crazy about it
>>150292435Not that OP isn't retarded, but KND was maybe the first episodic show to ever to have a stinger that got followed through in the next episode. The second to last episode of season 1 ended with the DCfDtL getting the age changing cigar and then the last episode is about them using it. It blew my mind as a kid.
>>150296189>basically kids created adults, adults rebel, wipe kids off of earthAnimatrix didn't invent 75% of this. Lovecraft did.Elder things created the Shoggoths, Shoggoths rebel, wipe Elder things off of Earth, Elder things retreated to the oceans.
>>150291896This was my favorite episode. God bless the K.N.D.
>>150297711just Australian my dudenot to bright a racelowest IQ scores in the worldwhat do you expect of a colony of ex-criminals?
>>150291836Was the One Child policy of China some sort of adult ploy or something in the KNd universe?
>>150304080The Matrix hype was real at the turn of the century. I remember spending an inordinate amount of time on the weird website they had reading comics and playing weird flash game thingies. It was really a phenomenon in the period in between the first and second movies. I remember being really excited for the Animatrix (although, truth be told I barely remember it now.)I don't think it's something you can really replicate again. I didn't see the matrix until it had been out for awhile but you didn't get spoiled on movies back then, so it was still a massive head fuck when I finally did see it, and then you really had to go seek out related content; it wasn't all shoved in your face via algorithm.
>>150292161Animated anthologies should have become the norm. Hollywood can't make good full length movies or series for scifi properties like Alien, Predator, or Terminator anymore.
>>150305811This. Its hard to explain to algorithm kids now, but back then, films came in "hits", outstanding specimens which everyone knew about, experienced at the same time and discussed it at the playground or at the watercooler. And even between those Matrix was fucking massive, literally every work for a next few years referenced it or parodied it in some form. I do believe it had the chance of being a Star Wars tier fixed star of pop culture if not for its sequels being dogshit. No wonder its creators went insane and trooned out, they had their shot at absurd, generational greatness and missed it. Now they are always going to be as those two weirdos who made a decent little flick if you are into nineties nostalgia. Like, imagine if the original Star Wars sequels turned out bad and New Hope is regarded as this fine seventies nostalgia movie. Its hard to understate just how much Matrix came and went over society, like a tsunami.>>150304142Yeah, turns out, kids are not the dumbasses suits thought them to be and they actually like storylines and plots, not all episodic shit.
>>150305811>>150306234Not gonna lie the Lord of the Rings coming out right after didn't help either. Those movies basically sucked up the phenomenon air and the setting was practically an inverse of The Matrix. Combine that with the sequels not being nearly as good as the original, while Lord of the Rings was as close to as perfect of a trilogy as you could get, and I think it just soured the public on Matrix content even faster.
>>150306234>kids are not the dumbasses suits thought them to beThey probably believe this but the more operative point is that once you start running a longer term narrative its harder for a new audience to buy in after its already going (especially back then before binge watching on streaming services) thus its harder to sell those new people merch and harder to dole out timeblocks. You make something episodic then you just choose the best performing episodes and keep slotting them into primetime then score some easy money.
>>150306327Yeah, LotR is a good example of just echoing cultural relevance. Truly the Star Wars of the 2000s, down to dislike prequels, and modern studio milking.
>>150291896I don't remember this shit
>>150306392If you somehow missed the episode you should watch it back-to-back with The Second Renaissance short, it's like a straight up homage and it's kind of fucking crazy they did it.
>>150297711He's a goyishe kopf aka "dumb blonde".
>>150306392Anon this episode was released about 20 years ago of course you dont remember it as well.
>>150304080Animatrix came out the year before the episode aired. It was still very new and Matrix hype was still high even after the 3rd movie
>>150306565We call those himbos sir
>>150291836Unrelated note, i always found it weird how the teen faction are depicted as being in league with adults, i suppose it's a alliance of necessity against the power of the KND, but i think they should have treated them more as a 3rd faction not in league with children or adults. Honestly irl teens are more against adults than kids.
>>150308017The Teens are only a threat because of Cree pushing them to be her soldiers. Left on their own, they don't care about anything except pizza and video games.
>>150292197So numbuh one tried to connect 100 conspiracies together into one super conspiracy, most of them were wrong butt he got one of them right and the adults were talking about that one when he said he knows.
>>150305588Of course!With 2 adults to every 1 child they will outnumber them and thus easily secure victory!
>>150307980There's more to being a himbo than just being stupid. You've got to be beautiful too.
>>150306327Ehh, the huge difference in genre might have allowed space for both to exist if the Matrix sequels were good. But because they were pure shit, its a moot point, the entire franchise became a one-hit wonder. No matter how good the supplementary material were, they couldn't carry a cultural zeitgeist that far. Just play with the idea what if the entire Matrix trilogy was a huge hit and endured enough into the era of modern TV shows, spinoffs and sequels. It even got rebooted in our timeline, so it would be absolutely massive in a time where it would resonate with cultural opinions about the AI even more.
>>150291836>annunakiI put my dick up Nibiru's asshole and she screamed while I plapped her for a solid hour on my couch.
>>150306327>>150308894To be honest there was just too much big-name shit going on around then>Lord of the Rings is a fucking huge hit based on the single best-selling book series of all time>The Star Wars Prequels, while poorly received, had the Star Wars name on them back when that still meant something and were still sort of watchable even if just to laugh at>The Harry Potter movies that were actually kind of fun kids movies were coming out and just further distracted from any pull the Matrix could have had>Kill Bill takes up the mantle for the same kind of stylish action but without so much philosophyOf course, if the sequels to The Matrix were good, the series could have probably stayed its own even with all that going on. The problem is that they sucked so people still kept referencing the original movie and maybe Animatrix if they dug a little deeper, and that's not enough material for long-lasting cultural relevance.
>>150301098I can't help but think this is just revisionist bullshit.
>>150309012>The problem is that they suckedCredit to Reloaded, for all its fault, action-wise is pretty entertaining.
>>150297711He's blonde
>>150300951No?
>>150309143It is, its been horribly frustrating to watch unfold as someone who saw the movies in the theaters when they premiered. That was never the sentiment at all. >but the director sai-20+ years after the fact after being mindwarped by their humiliation ritual. If Bruce Willis told you he hated Die Hard today would you believe him?
>>150300951Dont think so, i gotta watch that movie again
>>150300951iirc he was the first parent to rebel against the kids
>>150306327Lotr didn't (at least to my knowledge) have the almost ARG level early next presence though.I feel like part of the joy of the matrix in 99-02 was those early cryptic websites. It got you really hype for the world.
>>150310843Good lord you people are the fucking worst.
>>150297753>>150299780>>150300153>>150304641>australianDoes that mean his relationship with Numbuh 3 is an allegory for what Imperial Japan wanted to do to Australia in WW2?
We need more /x/+/co/ threads honestlyTheyre kinda fun
>>150291836So what even was the Matrix 4 about? I forgot it existef
>lore in cartoonsJust appreciate it for the story and comedy
>>150311887We need to incorporate more schizo esoteric stuff in /co/ related things
>>150308017I like my idea that most are "neutral"; it isn't until they get into the teen ninja for one reason or another.
>>150292309ngl i feel like this is good stomping grounds for warburton in that case
>>150291836The conspiracy was fake, but the other bullshit he rattled off at the end of the episode was all true. He doesn't understand the big picture. But he knows enough to be a thorn in their side...also it its kinda just a funny gag
>>150311781You are just a seething tranny. Your attempt to force your shit into everything failed.>>150312604The troon brothers were depressed, cried and hallucinated about the Matrix characters comforting them. No, really, this was the reason given. At this point even the most cynical "yeah, we just wanted the money from the reboot" effort would have been better.,
Everything in KND is fucking insane and I don't think you where really supposed to take anything at any value. Idk the show always did a good job capturing how off the wall kids playing can be in their minds.
>>150304449We know. The episode is a parody of the Animatrix and it's overall tone and beats.
>>150308017It's important to remember that, outside of KND and the "Adults" as a supervillain faction, the vast majority of the world is either neutral or at least uncaring. Like all of the KND's parents don't give a shit, and I'd assume most teenagers don't give a shit either. The "Teen" faction were all former KND or associated indirectly with the KND who were mad about their memory erasure policies.The ultimate moral of the show isn't that you magically turn evil when you hit puberty, it's that radicalism, oppression, and violent aimless revolution are all equally retarded.
>>150304080That's what anthologies do, anon. Several stories by different writers, some are cool, others might not be to your taste.
