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>>150308488BUMPING FOR THE DALE JOONYA DIGITSAnd this issue is great
>>150308488Posting this here so anyone else can listen to it as they read alonghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvFqc27SeP4&ab_channel=Daeb2.0
>>150308561Megatron looks very happy to commit a war crime.
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>RCONigga read the fucking catalog and you'll figure out where to get proper downloads
>>150308710Its actually a trick question. He'll kill them all later anyway.
>>150308739For some reason this random page was 8 MB
>>150308786you missed a page....
>>150308778Surprise!
>>150308488So, was the writer very familiar with the universe before writing it? I think he's doing a bang up job, but a few things just feel a little off. For example, everyone keeps fucking saying "warrior". Ive never seen it used so much in a TF property.
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>>150308778I like the run but I wasn't fond of this deus ex machinaLike would they have shown up anyways?
Could someone please explain why this garbage won an Eisner? What's so good or innovative about this book?
>>150308848>>150308849Funny you should say that...
>>150308825DWJ grew up on G1, watched Beast Wars and read Dreamwave and IDWs All Hail Megatron and thats it. so yes and no.
>>150308850>reee why isnt my marvel slop good as transformersThe pendulum is back to image faggot
>>150308778ENTEROMEGA EL SUPREMO (forma de TFA reference)
>>150308826Kino
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>>150308848Kirkman is gonna undo this harder than what the Unicron Trilogy didGood
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>>150308849Theres a chunk of cybertron on earth and it has a beacon thats been calling and calling for one of omega guardians (there were many omega supremes in g1 and animated) to come backOne of them finally did and probably scanned for cybertronian presenceI assume Omega is atleast 2 vehicles that combine thus them prefix and will be a new base for autobots or a mcguffin for which cons and bots will fight for,more likely it will fight devastator with bots since it was like that in g1
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>>150308900I hope he doesn't, Starscream killing himself and not being a main pillar for the 'cons for once is actually refreshing>>150308905This on the other hand is 100% a copout, called it last month and I still don't feel like it's earned
>>150308921Fwommmed idiot
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>>150308950I understood that reference.
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>>150308950See this black spot on megatrons diaper ?Oil,he shat himself from being hit this hard by my FUCKING HERO>>150308967FUCKING HELL HES STILL GOING And they killed brawl those bastards
>>150308900Kirkman is going to make starscream the new Negan, but this time he will get windblade as his moral compass if we get more flashbacks with him and jetfire, if not he will be mark 2.0
>>150308848I gotta reread this series now that it's over. What's the sufficients of this?
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>>150308967>bruticus using an entire building as a crutchfunny as fuck
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>>150308967darn, I was kinda hoping he would die so we could we could get the OTHER Megatron to come in and take over. It's been too long since we had a leader who transformed into a dragon.
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>>150309070And like that, we come to our farewell to Kirkman
>>150309086Fucking meant Daniel Warren Johnson. We will be greeting Kirkman in Issue 25
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>>150309070What a great final panelAll this destruction and despair but theres a small burning light of hope that grabs all the attentionPerfect summary of the runThanks op,very impressive for someone who cant read
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>>150308848>Oh fuck they saw everything
>>150309171BasedNow draw the gunmegs pregnant
>>150309026>What's the sufficients of this?uh in english doc?
>>150308967They forgot Soundwave
>>150309211Significance is what he meant.
>>150309211Yep, what >>150309285 said.
>>150309070https://youtube.com/watch?v=siWusSBld7k
>>150309206Instructions unclear, I did this instead
i dont mind the "donut steel" being a powerhouse. beats megatron and soundwave fine whatevers why wouldnt i expect the oc character to be stronger than everyone. but that omega supreme reveal was just retarded. other than that yea it was good but just the omega and shredder were lame
>>150309270Hes in the rubble,he transformed into a blue brick
>>150309171kek
>>150309026There was an issue about Starscream's past.He used to be Ulchtar, a scientist that cherished all life. One day, he was able to made Omega Supreme wave at him, just before Jetfire departed to find a solution to Cybertron's energy crisis.However shit happened and Ulchtar became Starscream, becoming corrupted by Megatron and becoming the bastard we know.What happened here is that Omega Supreme remembered Ulchtar and waved at him, which reminded Starscream of who he truly was.
>>150308967You think Megs will essentially zombified Starscream, like Energon Megs did?
>>150309373I don't mind it too much because it's more a Hot Rod situation where he came in at the end of the fight to help.
>>150309373Nah It makes sense,they touched the beacon when repairing megs on the chunk that fell off the cybertron and supreme came by Shredhead makes sense as a powerhouseNew,not worn out and made out of few sparksHes like 20 pissed off choro q bots crammed into a gmc vandura
>>150309406Starscream is getting his wings removed and will be reformated into carscream,megatron will have rumble wield him and they will do drive bys Or he turns into a foot for bruticus
>>150308488Based, thank you OP. Can we get the more recent issues of GI Joe and Void Rivals too?
>>150309515You missed em on the day of release,might be in the archive,new joes are next week and void rivals in two weeks
Ulchtar is really hard to pronounce...
>>150308662So Arcee and Magnus are still alive. But are Jazz and Wheeljack dead?The Aerialbots? Trailbreaker?
>>150309559Ulk-tar
>>150309608They are all alive if we believe the previews.
>>150309608>But are Jazz and Wheeljack dead?Jazz shows up in the preview pages for issue 25 and Wheeljack is present in the cover for that same issue so they're very much alive, thankfully
>>150309430>>150309373You know how Tigerhawk was the merging of two sparks (plus Vok shit) and came out as a game changer until the Nemesis came back online?Now you know why Shredhead is so strong
>>150309373I don't really mind it too since everyone is worn down from fighting will Shredhead is in perfect condition.
>>150309608Superion hit the second towerRest are knocked out
>muh OC defeats MegatronWow, that sucked
>>150309713I didn't see Superion this issue. Good thing he was able to avenge Slingshot by taking Brawl
>>150309608I hope not, but I guess it's up to Kirkman to decide. As much as I like Wheeljack, he's had a pretty good run in this book as the tech guy and replacement for Ratchet. Jazz hasn't really had any character moments despite being one of the longest lasting Autobots, and the others are too new to have done much of anything.
>>150308488I have to say this has been a pretty good series. I hope they make a new transformers comic where the human is the alien on Cybertron and the human is the the transformers introduction to humanity. Trans warp experiment brings a human or a human family to cybertron while they were on a family road trip. The family would give off radiation of primal energon or something and decepticons wants them for experiments and to find the source of the primal energon and autobots are trying to save the family and get them home with out decepticons finding the coordinates.
>>150308577It's not a war crime to squish insects, is it?
>>150309796Bet Godzilla would war crime Megatron!
They should introduce the Protectobots and Defensor with all mass civilian death going around
>>150308549>trailer appears out of fucking nowhere10/10 brawl
>>150309663The humans of that city (except spike and Carly) are mincemeat though.
I thought Thundercracker would be the savior, but I don’t mind it being Shredhead
>>150309103>We will be greeting Kirkman in Issue 25Great, can't wait for Optimus to get cucked and raped.
It was a disappointing issue.
>>150309537Yeah, can't find'em in the archive. Can you just re-story time'em?
>>150309864What if Thundercracker gets an Armada Starscream arc which is then also technically Thundercrackers arc
>>150309830Wait a minute. Slingshot is dead. He was the left arm of Superion.First Aid is a pacifist, so logically, he would follow Optimus. And he is Defensor's left arm...
>>150309741Come on he just basically got a sucker punch in
>>150309609thanks!
>>150309070absolute kino
>>150310124Alpha Bravo’s time to shine
so far all we know is that Kirkman is going to be introducing Bulkhead in the comic, not sure who else is gonna be brought in.
>>150309741>full power bot teleported in behind, to go fight someone whose ass was half kicked, and also blindsides him with a sword to the chestI mean, what, do you just expect him to tank it like it's nothing? That would be pathetic.
>>150309792Issue 25 next month with new writerAnd human on cybertron is rejected pitch for idw2 so youre gay
>>150310260They should introduce all the "alt" Autobot main teams like Hotshot, Redalert, Bulkhead. Hotshot should be here 100% with bumblebee being dead
>>150310178Nah, I am thinking First Aid will substitute for Slingshot.Plus they need a medic.
>>150310298Why hotshot hes just bumblebee?
>>150310357Hes cooler on account of a visorHe also had far cooler alt modesAudi TT vs beetleMid engine chrysler vs camarosApc vs other camaros
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>>150310357Hotshot is a mix of Hotrod and Bumblebee and hes cool fuck you
>>150310298that would be cool.
>>150309476Would be neat to see Carscream
>>150310665i always thought there was a missed opportunity not doing that Alternity seeker mold as Sky-Byte cause the grill look very fish like.
>>150308967>Bruticus using a building as a crutchBefore this comics, I used to hate size shifting.
Great issue now im really hyped for the big finaleMy only fear is that the next issue wont be really finish all the plot arcs and its gonna leave a bunch of stuff unreasolvedI dont think there gonna kill of megatron for good in the next issue and earth is still gonna be fucked from the Decepticon invasion and i really dont want all these things to be resolved by a new writing team
>>150310690You're right! It does look awfully fish-like!
>>150310298There’s been a lot of retarded discussion over Autobot “mainstays” and honestly I hate it. I preferred it when they used to mix it up
>>150308644Jesus, this comic is pure misery porn.
>>150310785>Rodimus in Fan rejectsBrother, season 3 wrote him as a man in a mid-life crisis and gave all the cool scenes to Ultra Magus. He is everybody's reject lmao.
>>150310785>Demolisher AND lugnut Megatron would shoot them over that level of brown nosing
>>150310785Animated had Rodimus leading Hotshot and Redalert that’s a good gimmick I’d like to see
>>150310726what are you talking about? This was the end of the arc, 25 starts a new run with a new writer.
>>150310785i miss having Ironhide be relevant.
>>150308710>>150308739LEAVE BEACHCOMBER THE FUCK ALONE!
>>150310887i thought it was gonna go on for an other issueWell its interesting to see whats gonna happen nextKirman said he really likes Rodimus so theres a good chance that optimus is gonna die and gets replaced soon
>>150310941If Rodimus is introduced, I hope his alt looks like a truck and not a car that got raped by a trailer.
>>150310941Kirkman's already enjoying his shot at writing Hot Rod through the Void Rivals run, we won't see him in Earth for a good while
>>150310690Its a snakeCar is called orochi after snake but japaneseFind me a better car choice for screamer than a snake themed one
>>150310700Beachcomber sporting that ComboverWtf was takara thinking giving him a floation device/wig/letter c for a helm
>>150310976He is a car that might be raped by a trailerLook up gm bison to understand what rodimus is supposed to beShouldve made him a firetruck before optimus took thatThere even was a concept drawing for a toy of him like that
>>150311138i feel stupid now, but at the same time idk i can just see Sky-Byte out of it.
>>150311216I know about the GM Bison. Primo it looks ugly. Secondo, I just think the chara designer doesn't know anything about cars.Just make him a somewhat aerodynamic semi truck.
>>150308936The Decepticons have been doing stupid sneaky shit for the entire run. This happening to THEM for a change and them not being able to conceive of being ambushed as seen >>150308921>>150308950 is very, very funny. I hope COBRA enslaves them.
>>150311278It was the 80s in americaAmeritrucks have been same since 70s with minor improvmentsScanias mog anything us makesEven then aerodynamic trucks are just cabovers with few dozen small adjustments to make a block more aerodynamicI maintain that he shouldve been a firetruck or a rally truck
>>150308662I hope Arcee's arm is okay
>>150311425Commander stop posting on coJoes sabotaged our newest billboardThey added a b and made c into oThey calling us boobra commander
>>150311228Skybyte can be an eel or a hybrid triplechangerThey gave him wheels in rid 01 as a gag and now a toy of him is a shark with wheels Which was a hot wheels before but I digress
>>150310785>All Hail Megatronmore like I'd Fuck Megatron
>>150310795Did you stop reading at this panel?
>>150309070>Rust Cohle approves
>>150308866>>150308778I like how it extends outside the panels for extra hugeness
>>150308967I don't know if these two are too stupid or too loyal to usurp Megatron.
>>150310324Blades is on cybertron and hes the only protectobot we have seenI reckon blades will be retooled from existing vortex toy and first appear as spare limb for superion to tease defensor as toy and to become a special comic edition set and then we get defensor as a toy and in the book
I hope Miles Mayhem shows up in the Energon Universe. He's always fun.
>>150311848Have you seen what megatron does to a full combiner ?5 shots in gun mode and youre deadIts not just loyalty,Its fearThey can be the next astrotrain,bubbling half liquid metal wreck
>>150310700At first I disagreed, but after an hour or so I realized he was right. That being said, I still don't really care all that much for Beachcomber and hope he takes a backseat after this.>>150310889Same. I hope he makes a return as EU goes on and doesn't just get ganked. I think he would make for a good teammate for the Joes once the two groups finally meet, fight and make up.
>>150311902Megatron just lost in Optimus in front of them and can barely move. And he gave the oder to run away of all things.
>>150311879wasn't that him they killed off in like 2023? president of Crapveria or something
>>150310700Why do I get the feeling this is the work of Beachcomber apologists still upset over Animated
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>>150312063can you really be upset if they never could actually get Beachcomber killed off at all in the first place. hell even DJW kinda stopped hating on Beachcomber after a while.
>>150310700i thought he died last issue
>>150311961He still has most destructive potential and evil matrix of slavery or something that can revive dead consPlus cult of personality,soundwave would lick his asscrack clean if he had a mouth
>>150311544I don't buy it. This is a 1991 Kenworth T600 according to google.Just take this and make it FUTURE, and voila.
>>150312169Hippie power allowed him to TANK those shots from the null rays
>>150309131Honestly thank fuck DWJ's run is over. Hopefully we can get an actual storyline now instead of "20 pages of wrestling moves per month".
>>150312243I meant 1984.
>>150308870I wonder if Kirkman is familiar with any Transformers stuff beyond G1. Would be nice to get more characters from beyond that era.
>>150312405>>150312243Hell, this one? The third gen of W900 was produced in 1982
>>150308561And optimus comes in from the top rope!Really feeling the wrestling influence. I think, i dunno, I don't watch it.
>>150309103>We will be greeting Kirkman in Issue 25
>>150312414There's still plenty of G1 characters that haven't shown up yet that deserve to, like Grimlock and the Dinobots, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Sky Lynx, Blitzwing, Trypticon, the Insecticons, Cyclonus, Scourge...
>>150308630I missed that megatron is just a little tank with a handle, does he even actually have trigger?
>>150312414he literally is adding Bulkhead to the mix, at the least he has seen Animated and or Prime. He's said Star Saber was another character he's hoping to bring in down the line. i get the vibe Kirkman knows more than DWJ about the brand as a whole, he was at one point suppose to be a writer in the ill-fated Transformers cinematic universe writers room a decade ago.
>>150309171Really nice
>>150308826Good callback to his origin flashback.
>>150308905>>150308921Feels like the only reason he's so strong atm is because everyone else is extremely battle damaged from a long drawn out war while he's fresh and fully fueled.
>>150309030Oh fuck he is lmao
>>150313114its possible thats the case, my theory is Shreadhead's spark being the collective of Cliffjumper's entire slain clan is why Shreadhead is so powerful.
>>150311902How dead is Astrotrain really?The Transformers in this series have been destroyed in almost every issue and succesfully repaired in the next one with little to no consequences?The only reason the Autobots are in such a shit position is because they dont have enough energy to fully repair themself but if they had enough enerhy they should be able to fully repair themself
>>150313484His head,neck and area around where the human heart is has been reduced to flowing hot metal>>150313318That is litteraly in the book 17>>150312243Yes and they continued to make it for 20 years without changes>>150312440And I think last revision of this is going off the production line in 2026,Its not that america never made a good truckIts that they make those trucks for 50 years without major upgrades,Im all for simple and efficient tech but I dread what happens to a driver of this in a roll over compared to a scania volvo or man
>>150313484I'm surprised they never confirmed his lover unless I missed something
>>150313484The comic has been pretty good at telegraphing when a bot is dead when they dedicate a page to it. If Astrotrain still functions then surely Reflector has walked it off by now.
>>150313772Frenzy dying like this seems a bit excessive in retrospect honestly, it would've been funny to see him still fighting on with his jaw dangling around
>>150309070Megatron's daiper is distracting
>>150313811Starscream is wearing a white bikini
>>150313772i love how whenever Optimus shots the fusion cannon he always falls back a bit because the recoil is to much for him to handleIt really emphaises how powerful the fusion cannon is and how it just isnt good for him and fundamentally doesnt work on him
>>150308825I don't mind. I prefer it to Robertsisms.
>>150313800His was definitely the exception to the telegraphing rule. I remember when Soundwave ousted Starscream and it showed all the 'Cons and I was confused at his absence. That being said he was properly fucked up, so maybe he's tucked away in Soundwave's chest like Ravage was until he can be properly healed.
>>150309609You'll-shtar
>>150308549Where did the trailer come from
>>150314738Same place where it came from in the 86 movie.
>>150309070This was shit. Hopefully we can get some good writer on so we can get the fuck off earth and away from muh shitty cartoon
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>>150310269But he's a tank-gun, anon
So is there going to be some sort of event that revives all the fallen bots?
>>150315072Yes,cobra commander will put energon snakes in them to force the bodies to obeyOptimus will now powerbomb bumblebitch to death (again)
>>150308577>Megatron looks very happy to commit a war crime.Megatron's response to the very concept would be WAR IS NOT A CRIME!
>>150308549I'd like to imagine he had a big fuck off trucker horn while he did it
>>150309070Kino last page
>>150308583Pretty wild showing Megatron kill a whole family, like i know that the Decepticons have been doing this kind of thing the whole run but that was more implied vs outright showing it.
>>150310083It's a shame these last few issues haven't had the space to follow up on where Thundercracker and Skywarp have gone.>>150313772Maybe Reflector's other two bodies are still around and could be repaired?>>150314053IIRC it was only stated on a letters page that Frenzy was dead, so revealing actually he was just injured wouldn't be a big deal, and it would make more sense after some of the injuries characters have survived in later issues.
>>150314831Earth is a vital part of the appeal of Transformers. I am sorry.
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>>150308967So...is Screamer still alive?
>>150319083It's a 50/50 chance honestly, everything up to this point has hinted at something like that being impossible with how comically broken Megatron's gun mode is, but with that final close-up, and considering that Starscream already has a solid history with near-death experiences, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up doing the ghost subplot with him again.
>>150319083>is the character most known for becoming an immortal ghost aliveI dunno, anon.
>>150319620If he's alive he can't become a ghost, now can he?
>>150308921Cliffjumper cucking Spike by proxy
I want to see Skybound Starscream live and change for the better. That would subvert muh expectations way more than yet another death.
>>150320366Have you been keeping up with anything else Transformers related recently? Many well known mass murderers in the franchise have already gotten that treatment, Starscream included, it stopped being innovative a long time ago, not to say this is subversive either but at least I can get some sick kicks out of his first death by suicide no, Armada doesn't count
>>150319083Ulster
>>150320561i guess they did a redemption in the comics, but aside from armada dinob- i mean starscream, it seems like starscream's main arc is "attempt g1 assassination, get foiled, fuck around by himself and either die now or later">>150320366what could he do to atone for squishing humans like fruit gushers and blowing up civilians for funsies? do we hook him up to the wall and use him as a coffee dispenser like skywarp?i don't know if our boy can get a good ending without some real fuckery, unfortunately.
>>150319083His name is Ulchtar, good sir.
>Autobots fail upwardsI liked this run but they definitely needed a change in direction.
>>150320561You're just fucking around, you don't actually think I'm saying that the idea of an evil character being redeemed is a new concept in Transformers, in and of itself. But I appreciate that because it gives me a reason to bump the thread by over-explaining my opinion.What happened here was a wild 180 for this specific incarnation of Starscream because he initially appeared to have no redeeming qualities at all, even when compared against other Decepticons. Him surviving and developing further would be surprising because, in this particular continuity (and in any other story that kills off characters with similar frequency), getting minimal character development and then dying is the default, while having a "complete"/satisfying character arc is novel. I'm also poking fun at edgy/shock-value-heavy stories by suggesting that things which are normally considered cliche (like characters surviving unsurvivable injuries because it would be more dramatic, or redemption arcs) are a subversion of expectations within the context of those stories. >>150320969>what could he do to atone for squishing humans like fruit gushers and blowing up civilians for funsies?Nothing. That's part of what makes it interesting. Over a long enough time scale, he could save more people than he's killed, but saving one person doesn't give you a free pass to murder someone else later, so I don't believe that "balancing the scales" in that sense would somehow wipe his slate clean. He would have to choose to change even with the knowledge that the things he's done can't be fixed.
>>150309103So how's everyone feeling about the coming change in writer (and/or artist)?Personally, I've never enjoyed Kirkman's work, so I'm not getting my hopes up. I'll read at least issue 25 out of curiosity, but on some level I'm looking at this issue as the end of the story. I also like the gritty art style of the first 24 issues and I think it compliments the narrative well, but without knowing how the story will be written going forward, I'm not going to write off the new art yet. Maybe the tone will change in a way that makes the new art style fitting.
>>150308778art is superb and quite brutal
How broken is Megatron overall now?Weve seen the bots walk of much worse battle damege in the series already and teh Decepticons have their repair machine that turned Starscream from a broken bot into a brand new one so by the next issue all the Deceptiocons should be fully functional again and the Autobots still barely holding on for their lives
>>150312466It's DWJ, of course there's a wrestling influenceGo read Do a Powerbomb, NOW
>>150308662I love how Starscream in this comic has just been outright fucking DEVIOUS. It's that perfect mix of goofy as hell in a vacuum, but within context it's just a genuine "oh god" when it happens. Same for when they smashed up the armed forces a while back.
>>150322701Not great. I'll keep reading but I wish it had just wrapped everything up in 24 issues. It feels relatively complete even as-is, though, so if Kirkman drops the ball it'll be alright.
>>150323536Lost use of gun arm and has a big cut going thru 90% of the torsoThats just from shredheads ENTERPrime made him fly two pages and broke a communications antena on him after doing a diving double axe handle megs and a fuel truck Megs got properly kwabbed,not going back into field for a good whileI wouldnt be suprised if hes sitting in a chair or commanding from the back for 3-4 issues
>>150308905It's kinda lame that let their OC save the day, but still in this situation there should be some kind of divine intervention.
>>150324187tbf shredhead isnt that powerful it's just that all the bots are supernerfed from being low on energy and fighting so long The whole series thus far was a constant struggle for resources and neither side has enough to really be ar full powerShredhead is just not completely battle damaged like the rest and got a jump on an already weakened Megatron after prime fought himIf Megatron knew he was there I dont think he would have gotten the jump on him and insta killed him
>>150322798Sorry Screamer, needs to be at least three colours to be tournament legal
>>150320561Starscream's first redemption arc was literally Transformers G2, courtesy of the matrix showing him the truth.
>>150320366>>150320561I think he’s unredeemable by this point, and I’d like it better if he did one good thing and then died forever. That feels appropriate.But no one is ever really gone and all that bullshit. Plus, if Invincible proved anything is that Kirkman loves redeeming mass murderers.In 30 issues we may see Soundwave and Starscream with Autobot symbols.
>>150322701The grittiness was good for a while, but then it got to a point where it was comical, and ending the big finale for this arc with member berries doesn’t help me take this that seriously. It’s a style of writing that can easily get stale.I think the writers getting out by this point was because they realized this too and wanted to leave with a high reputation instead of sticking long enough for the rest of the fans to realize the issues. Now TF fans will parade them as geniuses regardless of how good or bad the rest of the run is.
