>You are given free reign to do whatever you want.>You won't be held back by editorial.>616/other universe characters won't cross over to shit your universe up.>You get to choose which characters are in this universe and HOW they are.>The only criteria is that the Avengers and the X-Men need to exist in some form.
I'd make a role reversal, good guys ad, bad guys good.
>>150328148X-Men existed in the past till Wanda No More Mutants 99% of them and altered time to make it sort-of the MCU timeline + elements of 616 + a Spider-Man who'd been Spider-Man since the 00sFantastic Four's space flight gave them powers but sent them to the year 2099
>>150328148So you mean like an elseworld? This threads always sound like an idea generator for som3 lazy Marvel writer.
>>150328148i'd just make a good new animated continuity where all the different shows are canonically same universe and they're all high quality programs.
>>150328148Basically, The Maker
>>150328299I always wondered what a marvel analogue of the crime syndicate would be like
I honestly wont change much however due to the fact you wanna stress Avengers/X-men id mostly also stress connectivity. >Wanda/Quick Silver ARE Magnetos kids and are mutants no ifs ands or buts >Their origins are the same with them leaving the brotherhood for The Avengers >You can be a mutant but you DONT have to be attached to the X-Men >Magik helping the X Men connect with the mystic side of marvel when she starts to work with Dr.Strange more >Actually viably bring up the idea that if these major super hero groups exist theyd ask for help (Ultron, Mutant Rights Issues, etc) >Richard Storm is a mutant again thus connecting X-Men to Fantastic 4 again >Id also like to give Blade kind of a more "cemented" presence where the other heroes at first think hes a murderer on the level of the Punisher since hes been killing Vampires who are major politicians or people in power but the other heroes dont know about the vampires>This ends with the idea Blade says the vampires push for mutant racism to hide the existence of vampiresI just want more solid connected writing, less hand waving, and actually embrace being a share universe and not bringing up other people exist when its time for an event. I also kind of jumped all over the place and mentioned personal fanfic ideas I had
>>150329634Also id even go as far as have the X-Men start off as how Evolution did it where they are still younger teens. >Have Wonderman and Beasts friendship be more prominent as Wonderman is their introduction to the hero life and him being a non mutant who fights for their rights
>>150328148Anna Maria Marconi as Peter Parker's permanent wife.
>>150329634>Wanda/Quick Silver ARE Magnetos kidGAY
>>150328148Krakoa porn movies
>>150329718how can anyone not marvel editorial or MCU fags like this
>>150328148It would probably just be a bunch of remixes of cartoon plots.Maybe I'd make the mutants actually mutated humans rather than insisting they're a seperate better species.
>>150329689>that giant man-handFucking kek
>>150328148Morgan le fey invents a reverse prima nocta for earth's strongest males
I always like elseworld premises where major events cause huge shifts in character alignments and classic team shifts.An idea I had was using the typical arrival of Galactus as the catalyst for the reveal and rise of heroes and villains.The silver surfer arrives, tells the earth they have one year to live. Howard Stark and Norman Osborn align to form a think tank to solve it, inviting their sons, plus noted intelligent young upstarts like Reed, Victor, Pym, McCoy, etc. to solve the problem of Galactus.They create the Ultimate Nullifier, but due to some miscalculation, it causes Galactus to erode, with his energies and tech raining down on earth, powering up individuals and causing a huge alien future tech fiasco, leading to team formations, villainous uprisings, reveals of mutants and secret countries.
>>150330096I think it is cute. having one or two "beauty deffects" like that make people more attractive for me...
>>150330185I love this idea.
>>150328148Simple, I stop publishing capeshit.
>>150330185>inviting their sonsHarry's gonna be the fucking coffee boy in this group.
>>150328148Spread the heroes the fuck out. I get why chars like spider-man need to be in NY, but so many others can be homebased around the US or even the world. Give Earth a space preseance. Doesn't need to be outside the Sol system, but something a bit more than a shit colonel on the moon or some SHIELD org you see/hear about once every 20 years.Better explanation on why mutants are feared. Something in the air, make non mutants almost as feared, whatever. Guy who can blow up a city because of his genes needs to be feared as much as guy who can blow up city because he slipped on radioactive banana.
>>150329634That is actually a pretty cool idea for Blade and the vampires. Gives him more of a presence in the universe when vampires are generally meh on the threat scale.
>>150328148Shift the setting to something like Batman TAS. Old tech, old aesthetics. Not Gotham specifically but emulating the same era) while allowing for modern stuff... just bulkier. Like old brick cellphones.Street level adventures with Spider-man (solo)Star Trek episodes with Silver SurferSpace shenanigans with GotG
>>150329723Emma... Nobody asked you.>>150330422I would actually pay for being able to watch that.>>150330435>Spread the heroes the fuck out.Holy fuck, yes, literally the only thing DC does better is giving heroes their own little space.
>>150329689Terrible. No.
>only avengers and x-men need to existOkay muh phoenix is now completely canon
>>150328148Remove the mutants, they don't fit with the other heroes.
>>150328148Oh boy!>The Questionable Tony StarkIn my universe, there would be no antimutant sentiment. People would regard them as yet more metahumans. However the government, spurred by Magneto's terrorist actions and rhetoric, would become concerned and secretly contract weapons manufacturer and playboy Tony Stark to create weapons to fight the mutants or later other metahumans. Tony would create the Sentinel program and build himself a Sentinel-looking suit as well. Tony would fight The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, the Inhumans, and the Murlocs. Instead of the Hulkbuster, he would have the Supernaut. A suit dedicated to fighting the Juggernaut.>Pvt HulkBanner Sr always thought Bruce was a wuss and he abused him. Motivated by anger, Bruce joined the army instead of pursuing scientific education. One day Bruce is on guard duty at the Gamma project. The project gets sabotaged by a Brotherhood mutant or by Stark or even by a Shi'ar alien. There is an explosion that showers Bruce with Gamma radiation, turning him into The Hulk. The other military forces guarding the facility assume he is responsible for the explosion and they all attack him. The Hulk fights them in a rage until General Ross arrives. Ross flips at the sheer costs in damages. He screams a verbal beating at the Hulk, hands him a broom, and he orders him to clean the whole mess by morning. Hulk starts swipping, grumbling but also sniggering because he is secretly dating Ross's daughter.From that point on everyone treats Hulk as if he is absolutely normal and the other soldiers even apologize to him. He is mostly treated as a gag character in this universe.
>>150331452cont.>SpidermanA science trip would result in Flash Thompson being bitten by a radioactive spider and turned into the amazing Spiderman! Flash would have no web shooters or gadgets what with not being a scientist, but he would be more aggressive in fights and use his athletic skills. He would kick things, throw well, hit Green Goblin's bombs back at him with a bat, and he would run on walls and ceilings instead of crawling. Instead of Peter's banter, Flash would taunt his opponents like a bully. Flash would have a sidekick character in the form of a fellow classmate who is smart enough to do research for him and advice him during a fight.Spiderman would "ruin" Peter's life by earning the admiration of his uncle by saving his life (with Peter believing that he was about to beat up the mugger himself with a bat), and by stealing the heart of his crush, Gwen Stacey. The bitterness would cause Peter to team up with his science teacher Dr Otto Octavius. Otto would want to capture Spiderman and dissect him for science, and he would build various inventions to fight Spiderman with. Peter and Otto would act as a mad scientist/suffering assistant duo. Eventually Otto would realize the error of his ways and sacrifice himself to save the entire city, becoming *the* hero of New York. This would drive Peter into madness, seeing it as Spiderman taking even his friend and mentor away from him. Peter would use his mentor's contacts within the scientific community to gain access to Dr Curtis Connors' research in hopes of transforming himself into a spider humanoid and kill & replace Spiderman. Instead he would mutate himself into a lizard-like Green Goblin.
>>150331462>The PunisherFrank Castle would be essentially John Spartan from Demolition Man but angry. Instead of being killed, his family would flee New York to live in the safer countryside. Frank would stay behind to protect the families of those who don't have that option. He would cause his superiors no end of trouble with his maverick attitude, but he would be the man they would go to for all their metahuman problems. Because of that, he would operate under special rules and various silly weapons would find their way to his hands. Frank would occassionally say one-liners like an 80s action hero. His skull would actually be the logo of his favourite metal band.Frank's Simon Phoenix would be Cletus Casady, who would eventually acquire the Venom symbiote. Venom's skull would be a corruption of the Punisher's skull to mock Frank.>Kraven the HunterInstead of a Spiderman villain, Kraven would be a hunter and tracker for hire. SHIELD and other government organizations would hire him for his services in exchange for money and the for turning a blind eye on his illegal activities.Kraven would occassionally humiliate Spiderman to better him, like training an animal, so that one day he will live up to his potential of being Kraven's most dangerous prey.>Miles MoralesMiles would be present as a Where's Waldo character in many action scenes. He would be an elementary school kid and he would be spectating in amazement like the kids reading the comics would. His dad would be friends with Frank Castle and both of them would be serving under Gwen's dad.
>>150329510What would an 'Absolute Marvel' universe look like? What if the maker made his version of the marvel universe that was a twisted mirror version of itself like what Darkseid did with the DC heroes?
>>150331477Also>Viktor von DoomIn my universe, Viktor would be Doom's public face. He would rock his scar, turning it into an icon, and charm people with his roguish confidence.Doom on the other hand would be sneering, arrogant and hostile. He would be the Sorcerer Supreme and he would antagonize not only supernatural forces but also super scientists like Reed and Tony. He would scorn science for trying to fit the world into it's limited understanding instead of expanding it's ability to comprehend like sorcerers do.Doom would also use his alter ego to advance his country's interests, but most of the time we would see him thwarting the supernatural at every chance or antagonizing someone for the fun of it.
>>150331452>>150331462>>150331477>>150331983Holy fuck, I love this, anon. I don't know about treating the Hulk only as a gag character, but other than that, it is very creative. Props for including Miles instead of either killing him off or turning him into a humiliation ritual character.Make Doom a joke character, or a half-joke character.
>>150329634>Id also like to give Blade kind of a more "cemented" presence where the other heroes at first think hes a murderer on the level of the Punisher since hes been killing Vampires who are major politicians or people in power but the other heroes dont know about the vampires>This ends with the idea Blade says the vampires push for mutant racism to hide the existence of vampiresThis already doesn’t happen?
>>150330435My guess is that the guy who slipped on radioactive banana Is perceived always as humans. Mutants are despised probably because they are a "new race" that will replace humans and that wants humans extinct in the eyes of the moet part of the ignorant mass who only know Magneto swearing to kill all humans in TV or the the neighborhood kid who started spits acid from his nostrils last week.
>>150332061>>150331983I like this too. He should write a fanfic.
>>150330435>Spread the heroes the fuck out. I get why chars like spider-man need to be in NY, but so many others can be homebased around the US or even the world.This. I would also do the same.
>>150332415That's the way Kurt Busiek justified it when he wrote Marvels.
>>150332415Which is still a retarded distinction to have if radioactive bananas aren't be handed out to everyone and banana man can pass his powers down by fucking. End of day when super has a fight in your town blows and up the city blocks, you just aren't going to care how they go their powers.
>>150329689Shaddap, Dan
An universe where we never moved past the 60s aesthetics-wise but the stories deal with dark topics in an optimistic and colorful manner?
>>150334113That's just the Venture Brothers.
>>150328148My Marvel Academia.
>ThorDr. Donald Blake as the unknowing mortal reincarnation of Thor, banished by Odin. Borrow from the Return of the Incredible Hulk TV special as he discovers the hammer in a cave, lifts it, and summons his past self. From that point on, his journey is about humbling himself as old Thor in the modern world mixed with Silver Age adventures. Only when Blake and Thor reconcile will they finally, truly merge into the real (that is, our) Thor.>Hulk & Iron ManIgnore connections to the old 1610 universe, take the story from Ultimate Human (but change Hulk's origin from super soldier stack to a combination of the 616 and TV origins), and boom: you have what the Hulk and Iron Man are like in my Earth. Would have the Leader be closer to 616's.>X-MenSame approach Morrison took X-Men, but at the beginning of the team. Some influences from X-Men Evolution, but the original members are just young adults. No time travel allowed. Also, for mutants, steal origin from 1610 or similar. Public should be clueless and fear humanity will go extinct.>Spider-ManIsn't. Peter lives with Uncle Ben and Aunt May. Never learned great power or responsibility. Browses Reddit/Discord all day. Meant to mock Spidey fans. A loser.>Ant-Man & WaspCopy-paste EMH portrayal.>Captain MarvelCopy-paste EMH portrayal.>Squadron Supreme Bootlegs of the main JLA, but with the tone of the JLI. Allows for poking fun at the Distinguished Competition...>PunisherThe same. But make him a hot chick. No further changes, your honor.>Ghost RiderSame, but make him a hot chick. No further changes, your honor.>SentrySame, but make him a hot chick. No further changes, your honor.>Iron Fist & Power ManSame, but make them both hot chicks. No further changes, your honor.>MoonknightSame, but make him a hot chick; she's delusional and thinks she's 616 Moonknight. Because funni.>DoomOh, y'all just KNOW I'm dying for sum dat DOOMussy>Scarlet Witch & QuicksilverTwin. Sisters. 'Nuff said!
>>150328148I'd just make a totally self indulgent universe where the characters I like get more spotlight and attention especially villain wise with them getting development or just being treated as better threats In the case of Kang, The Sinister Six, Serpent Society or the U-Foes and Wrecking Crew.The main Avengers rosters are made up of the characters I like without any of the hero vs hero shit unless it's cause of mind control while the X-Men exist but are either just a background element plus mutants have equal rights just so they can stop their whinging and Hank Pym is a highly respected hero with his wife Rita Demara. Also Mephisto was killed and absorbed by the vastly cooler Dormammu.
>>150336781>Also Mephisto was killed and absorbed by the vastly cooler Dormammu.Very good.>>150336777>Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver>Twin. Sisters. 'Nuff said!Very hawt.
>>150328148>Carol Danvers stays Ms. Marvel with the same costume and personality and never becomes a space fascist. >Sue Storm was roughly the same age as Reed when they met instead of a 12 year old girl while he was like a college professor and doesn't frequently think about cheating on him with Namor nor did she ever go skinny dipping with T'Challa.>Hank Pym never hit Janet (since current writers are OBSESSED with frequently bringing that up despite it being a miscommunication between artists originally behind the scenes).>Reed Richards is anti-totalitarian regulation regarding any sort of anti-Mutant or anti-superhero legislation for character consistency unlike how he was portrayed in Civil War I. >Avengers #200 never happened.>The Crossing never happened.>Avengers Disassembled never happened and Wanda never went psycho over imaginary kids.>Sins Past never happened not even the convoluted retcon version Nick Spencer tried to fix for damage control in his run.>House of M never happened and Wanda and Pietro are still Mutants and Magneto's biological children like Lorna. >Civil War and Civil War II never happened.>One More Day never happened and Peter Parker and Mary Jane are still happily married and May knows Peter is Spider-Man and can either still be alive or died peacefully telling her nephew she is proud of him.>Secret Empire never happened.>Paul Rabin doesn't exist.>Silk can still exist but she doesn't have the rape pheromones that tainted her introduction and instead of the same spider that bit Peter it was an attempted replication that altered her DNA.>Ghost Rider's Penance Stare can work on ANY sinner so long as they are mortal but there might be limited uses/need a "cooldown period" but none of this "I don't regret it, so it doesn't work on me" bullshit that has made it a joke in the past decade.>No Logan/Scott/Jean love triangle and CERTAINLY no "throuple".
>>150336830I love you. I don't know you, but I love you.
>>150336830It’s funny since your idea only really needs civil war 1 to never happen
>>150336830Ah, but what of World War Hulk? Would that still happen?
>>150336816Yeah essentially Dr Strange with his wife Clea work alongside Ghost Rider to stop Mephisto's big lame final scheme for billions of pure souls that ends with Blackheart betraying his father leaving Mephaggot vulnerable to the sorcerer supreme's banishing him to the Dark Dimension where he gets consumed by Dormammu with that perhaps being what gives him the humanoid shape he's more known for.
>>150336777Like the Thor take. Would be great for an alternate universe setting. Seems almost like Shazam in a way but it works.
>>150336908>>150336900>>150336830Every current issue marvel comics faces is due to civil war 1 and various MCU retcons
>>150336830It's really incredible how much can be fixed by just saying I won't do this or this didn't happen.
>>150329634>Id also like to give Blade kind of a more "cemented" presence where the other heroes at first think hes a murderer on the level of the Punisher since hes been killing Vampires who are major politicians or people in power but the other heroes dont know about the vampires>This ends with the idea Blade says the vampires push for mutant racism to hide the existence of vampiresThis added to this >>150336830
>>150336916Dormammu has always been leagues cooler than Mephisto, so I'd fucking love that. >>150336939This. Marvel has never been the same since Civil War. >>150336951Makes ya wanna turn back time, doesn't it? ;_;
>>150336991Yeah plus obviously this would happen early in the setting so Mephisto can't derail characters like Spider-man or the Serpent Society who are essentially in this setting the most high profile organised supervillain team besides the Masters of Evil, having started from their humble beginnings as a four man squad of Sidewinder, Black Mamba, Anaconda and Death Adder to a massive hih profit and fully supporting of their members syndicate that Captain America struggles to fight either with the Avengers, Thunderbolts or his main allies of Diamondback, Bucky or John Walker by his side
I am actually working on a complete marvel AU for like almost two years.>The X-Men are a commentary on the 1% instead of oppression, while the non-X-men mutants are left to fend for themselves. Also the Brotherhood and X-Men are the same entity. >All the avengers have a darker origin>Also the South won the civil war, because Mephisto helped, so now there is an United and a Confederate States of America that only recently unified.>The whole of Europe is now one entity, called Latveria Federation.>Most heroes have darker origins but are still good guys.>Blade is a teenager, waging an one-person war against a secret vampire society.>Captain America and the Red Skull isn't an individual but a mantle passed down >The first captain America was a German Super Soilder turned traitor, who assassinated Hitler (his name is a combination of actual IRL German people who attempted to do so/rebeled against him. He moved to the states after the war, and pledged his loyality to the country that lives up to his vision of freedom. The German Super soldier serum, however wasn't meant to last so his years spent in America, he worked with the government to create an actual perfected version of it, and trained his successor.>Peter died from getting bitten by a radioactive spider. The Spider-themed hero of this universe is the kid of Mary Jane and Paul Rabin. He killed his father, defending his mom, after Paul started choking MJ in a drunken rage.>The fantastic 4 have their own city>Wakanda is in a state of civil war, and T'Challa's illegitimate children were sent to the USA to keep them safe.>Iron Man is a corrupted corpo asshole who is only considered a hero because he firght worse people than him.>Loki and Thor are chill tho, and actually good siblings Loki rules Asgard while Thor is it's defender.>Etc. It is basically a "everything that could have gone wrong, did go wrong" scenario, and earth is left more vulnerable than ever.
>>150336991Have mephisto be the guy that stages events and manipulates things from the shadows and Dormamu the evil dark lord type. Problem fixed.
>>150339961Mephisto is inherently a problem though with how he's been nothing but a blight for 25 years on every character he interacts with or story that involves him staging events and manipulating. Mepshito becoming a powerup parfait for an actually good villain is the nicest treatment he is getting.
>>150328148I won't tell you guys
>>150338812>The X-Men are a commentary on the 1% instead of oppression, while the non-X-men mutants are left to fend for themselves. Also the Brotherhood and X-Men are the same entityfirst line and it's already ass>It is basically a "everything that could have gone wrong, did go wrong" scenariooh okay that makes so much sense now, I thought this was a serious attempt at retelling 616 but being an intentional worst case scenario AU sounds interesting
>>150338812>Paulfuck off
>no dimension travel>no time travel>no clones>no reality warping>no sliding time scale>no one dies for at least five years>no resurrection under any circumstances >no crossovers or events for at least ten years, sequels and spin-offs are fine though
>>150329689No, Chat Sanduval or bust
>>150329689>>150341056Michele Gonzalez for me, tsundere gf for Peter is a cool idea they just never made use of it
>>150340686That's ok, we wouldn't of read it
>>150341037>No time travelBut what about Kang.....
>>150334113I've already thought that if I ever get to make my own superhero universe, that's going to be how it will be written
Stretch out the xmen timeline. Make it a sort of anthology like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.Part 1: OG X-Men right after WW2Part 2: Teen Cable and Grandpa Cable team up to save the futurePart 4 or 5: Genosha arcPart ?: Krakoa arcPart ???: Mars ColonyHow different would these stories look if the original line up are dead for most of them? You'd have to really pick and choose where to insert each mutant, because then they'd start aging and dying. Krakoa would be lead by the resurrection team instead of the council of everybody's favorites. Black Mutants would be very important to Genosha, since it's based on S. Africa's apartheid. That would already be breaking Storm away from the original line up and forcing her to interact with more obscure characters. Maybe characters like Wolverine could be immortal, but you's have to wait ten years for him to walk to the opposite side of the planet and be present.
>>150341242Simple, no one cares enough about him to justify it.
Make "Spider-Man" more of a Kamen Rider type. Each main character is the Spider-Man for about a decade before retiring and passing on to the next.Peter is the first, at least in the modern era. Miles goes after him. Push forward again to, like, Jessica or that new Spider-Boy or whoever.
>>150341504I care....
Like some other anon proposed itt I think aside from reworking the timeline so everything is a bit more modern just seperate the heroes out into their own fictional cities so there isnt 200+ active characters running around new york city at any given moment. Its kinda retarded if you think about how many heroes are active in NYC alll at the same time. There can be Fantastic Four town, Avengers town, and Xmen can be nomads who primarily live in their mansion. Maybe NYC can mostly be for spiderman and daredevil or the Avengers mansion can be there too if you really want to push it. Outside of that im not too creative I just hate how everyone lives in new york.
>>150340871>Nooooo you can't criticze muh groomers!!!!Do X-fags really?
>>150341639Superheros being active in other countries would be cool also, one of my fave parts of the Hit Monkey cartoon was seeing all the characters active in the Japan setting that fit like Lady Bullseye, Silver Samurai and Fat Cobra. Most we really get is Alpha Flight for Canada, Winter Guard for Russia and that's about it from the top of my head.
>>150338812Honestly, an "absolute marvel" where shit gets fucked sounds interesting.> The Spider-themed hero of this universe is the kid of Mary Jane and Paul Rabin.>He killed his father, defending his mom.FUCKING BASED, EVEN HIS OWN SON WANTS HIM DED KEK
>>150341718This is literally what Ultimate Marvel was until they lost the plot by having too many disaster events with so many "consequences" there was no longer a status quo left so they tried to salvage it and ended up just merging with 616
>>150341718Could easily have it be Kang using time travel to rewrite history since Maker altering the Ultimate universe is already done, though if you want to throw a real curve ball could have it be Molecule Man just fucking up utterly when trying to make a nice world for him and Volcana to live in.
>>150330435>Spread the heroesOh, I would spread them. The women, I mean the women. Their legs. I mean I would spread their legs. And, in case it wouldn't be obvious, i would do so with the intent of intense reproduction. And by this, I mean I would fuck their pussies pregnant.>>150330843>Okay muh phoenix is now completely canonIt better fucking is!>>150336777>thisA very coomy universe, anon, I approve!>>150338812>T'Challa's illegitimate children were sent to the USA to keep them safe.This better means a white character gets quality wakandan princess pussy, anon. It better does.
>>150341818Ultimate marvel wasn't "worst case scenairo" it was "what if everyone was an asshole".>>150341830Then it would have to be Kang-centered, and also, it wuld be just a retcon of an existing thing.
>>150341818>This is literally what Ultimate Marvel was until they lost the plotI miss it, bros, I miss it so much.>>150341830>Kang is the Darkseid of MarvelYES! DCfags would never recover.
>>150341930He's talking about Hickman Ultimate, not Bendis-Millar Ultimate
>>150341930Well having him take spotlight as a Big Bad instead of Thanos or Dr Doom for a change would be nice. Plus you could always just only intially hint that he's at fault for it before he gets directly involved and also just it might be hard for people to swallow the events and characterisation unless there's a reasoning to pinpoint it if going for the Marvel universe gone wrong angle. But that's my opinion and really if just want to just have it be things just went differently without someone actively causing it due to having knowledge that's fine really.
>>150331452 ,150331462 ,150331477 ,150331983>>150336830>>150338812Honestly, I'd read these.
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>>150342174I see that you are doing it, anon. You don't need to announce it. Also >implying
>>150342201I'm not the one who brought up "groomers" and started complaining about "X-fags" I just said that from the first line itself it sounded like a bad idea until I read the ending and realized it's intentionally meant to be a world where everything has gone bad. if you wanted to argue with someone about X-Men fanboys or groomers then pick a fight with someone else, not me
>>150328148Oh yeah, I did that.I’m itching to share my interpretations of characters.Ask me them
>>150342223I do realize now that I have been an asshole. I am just tired opf certain type of X-Men fans who get immediately deffensive over someone not dickriding the X-men hard enough, sorry.I mean >>150338812 anon did make Paul and MJ have a kid so I was also expecting Peterfags to show up. Apparently they are busy avoiding job applications at the moment.
>>150342268all right anon, what changes about the avengers? which X-men make it into your universe, in what way? what is the world like? Who is spider-man? what about legacy characters like Miles? What about the F4? Is Ben franklin still canon? did Sue get plapped by T'Challa and Namor? Did sue get plapped pregnant by Doom?
>>150342268Uhhh how about Shocker, Crimson Dynamo, Yellowjacket or Beta Ray Bill?
Some ideas>everyone who got powers due to tampering with their genetics (wheather due to exposure to cosmic particles due a lab experiment or simply born with weird genetics due to something in their bloodline) is considered a mutant (at least as far as science is concerned)>all the various god shit is tied to the Eternals (not sure if the current Asgardians are Eternals or just humans uplifted through tech and knowledge) and also Apocalypse>timeline takes place in a vague 'some not so distant future' with no irl events tied to origins or major milestones. So, yes, Magneto has nothing to do with WW2 here.
>>150333344That's the point. Humans in marvel are super retarded who trust all this race bullshit and tv propaganda. There's no logic but they are stupid anyway. I only aknowledge that mutates are few and mutants instead are everywhere.
>>150342297To each of those>The Great Lakes Avengers actually took the name first because the guys who are normally the Avengers are too busy to be a team>So far I have done Wolverine, Jean Grey, Cyclops, Professor X, Storm, Iceman, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch. As for their enemies, we have Magneto, The Hellfire Club, Emma Frost, Apocalypse, Sabretooth, and the Sentinels. Ask me about any of those.>A lot of major details changed. Mainly the fact that mutants are trafficked, Galactus is dead, and there’s a bunch of other shit.>Peter is 25 with two kids with MJ. He started at 14, retired at 18 after Venom killed Aunt May and he returned the favor, and returned 7 years later because he felt he needed to make the world safer for 4 year old Mayday. Young parent issues.>Miles is the Prowler. The second one, as the first one got killed by the mob due to Spider-Man not killing them>Reed is a much better person than usual. Focused more on his positive traits by making him a good husband/parent/friend. Sue is the PR manager with invisibility and force fields, Johnny is just… The same but with fire elemental powers, and Ben is a down to earth dude who can turn into a rock monster>…Yeah? Why wouldn’t Ben Franklin still exist?>No, because T’Challa is currently fighting African warlords who pillaged Wakanda the moment it opened it’s borders, and Namor is still waging a vendetta against Atlantis for killing his mom for cheating with a human all the way back in the 1910s.>No but Doom did make an android of her just to make it look like he raped her solely to traumatize Reed.
>>150342314>Shocker is Shockwave, formerly Vibro, under a new name after he got fed up with working for Stane, who basically mutilated him twice. Very happy with his new career choice.>Soviet bioweapon that Stane fishes up and uses as a blueprint for Titanium Man and a bunch of other bioweapons. Stane is basically a fucking Resident Evil villain here.>If you must know, Hank and Janet both got turned into admittedly adorable bug people via the shrinking tech fusing them with insects on a genetic level. This actually fixes their marriage >IDK how to make him work when Thor’s whole deal is that he’s the LITERAL mythical Thor bought back to life after Ragnarok.
>>150342390You could always have Beta Ray Bill instead of literally get the power of Thor more so be inspired after his encounter while he mostly just got the genetically engineered strength and enhancements as essentially the Steve Rogers of Korbinites.Also just curious on how Obadiah Stane is exactly since have me curious now and how Titanium Man and presumably other Ironman villains are instead B.O.W's.
>>150328148I'd make a proper timeline of heroes that are dispersed about different eras First heroes come out during ww2, Bucky, Captain America and Ant-ManCaptain America and Bucky's final mission is taking out an underwater Hydra base, and the base ends up getting flooded and frozen with Cap and all the Hydra agents inside. When researchers discover it, Cap and all the Hydra guys get thawed out, but Bucky is nowhere to be found (He got sucked out of the wreckage, went to atlantis, and became Namor)After WW2 the Fantastic 4 emerges, after a space mission led by A.I.M, Ant-Man's science organization. Dr. Doom, a Latverian refugee from WW2, develops Ultron at A.I.M. Ultron kills everyone but Doom, affixes a metal mask to his face, and when the Fantastic 4 return from space, they find Ant-Man dead, Ultron in control of A.I.M., and Doom is no-where to be found (Escaped to Latveria)Once Ultron is defeated, Alvin Tarleton buys out A.I.M. and develops MODOK, who takes it over. The Fantastic 4 remain as the first proper Superhero team.In the 90s, the Avengers form after MODOK briefly takes over New York City. Mutants also re-emerge, having been thought to have gone extinct (The Polio Vaccine, and other medicines, were never adapted for Mutants, even though it would be quite easy to do so, leaving their communities susceptible to the disease. It's an AIDS Allegory). Charles Xavier and Magneto have developed technology that can easily create Mutant-Safe versions of various medications, and reveal themselves as the first publicly documented Mutants in decades.In the 2000s, Peter Parker is bitten by a radioactive Spider. Magneto splits from the X-Men.I also have an idea for an "Absolute Iron-Man" take where by day he's an engineer for A.I.M. and by night he dons a bucket-helmet suit of armor to fight A.I.M's various bastards using their own tech.
>>150342427I dug deep. Stane joined AIM, a biotech cult looking to transcend humanity, and they financed his pharmaceutical company.Pre Stark CEO experiments: MODOK. A biological supercomputer he built for AIM. Made of cloned undifferentiated neural tissue. Killer Shrike. His first successful "Human" test subject. Gave him bat-like wings and spikesMelter. Technically a failure, but he still lives. Stane's first attempt to give a human the ability to produce energy. Hey, we have a blisteringly hot walking meltdown who's in constant agony now, but it still technically functions. Dread Knight: Stane creates a flying centaur with Latverian “Punishment tech”Whiplash. He wanted to see if he could give an organism a trait that doesn't exist in any other, IE retractable bone whips in this case. Whiplash is often called "Ol' Reliable," and Stane supplies him with Extremis, a non-addictive drug he loves Carnage. An accident. Alchemax, a company that was a subsidiary of Stane’s, was trying to clone the deceased Venom. Cleetus Kassidy, the janitor, ended up accidently merging with the resulting failure-goop as a result of triggering the Symbiote reproductive function. Stane didn't see the value of this until much later. Vibro: Stane's efforts to upgrade a single part of the body to superhuman levels to see what would happen. He boosted the guy's skeletal muscles tenfold. Getting even touched by him is like putting your hand on an industrial sander. "The Perfect Man:" A hulking monster of a human being who could best be described as a Tyrant from Resident Evil.Firebrand. Basically an upgrade on Melter. A punk who wanted to burn the fucking world after everything went to shit. Stane took her in under AIM's umbrella, and they gave her the power to make her dreams come true. Stane felt that he would need more resources to do this on a more advanced level, and so he set his plan into motion by killing Howard.
All new characters.No superheroes.No mutants.Clean slate.
>>150342470Stark-CEO experiments:Crimson Dynamo. An old Soviet bioweapon that was unearthed. The organic bits had long since passed away due to being left to rot for decades, but Stane was inspired. Titanium Man. His first go with replicating the Crimson Dynamo technology, but with one of his own bioweapons. Specifically, he clad the "Perfect Man" in specialized armor bonded to its nervous system. Disguised it as a robot. Goes from Mr. X to fucking Nemesis REAL fast. Ghost. A bit of a side project, wanting to see if he could bond foreign organisms to a human being. In this case interdimensional parasitesMauler. Stane made a "Second Skin" for a normal person instead of a bioweapon. This time, the second skin was made of cloned, genetically modified biomatter from the host, therefore making it a new organ that the wearer could take on and off whenever the chose. Very shiny and has multiple mechanical implements around the "Fabric." Shockwave: The upgrade on Vibro, using the same "Second Skin" technology he figured out with Mauler. Sort of a fusion of the Titanium Man and Mauler projects.Force. Him figuring out how to link someone to their own biological EM fieldFirepower: Stane wanting to create a "Villain" to publicly test Mauler, Shockwave, and Force on. Flesh guns.Living Laser: Stane wanted to see if he could take what he had learned further and turn a human into pure energy.Guardsmen. Sort of a micro-sized Titanium Man. Stane basically seeing if he could mass-produce his bioweaponryIron Rangers. It's here he realized the value of the Carnage accident. He wanted to make the Symbiote matter stable, which he did via using the nanites of Detroit Steel, and the Iron Rangers are him displaying that stable Symbiote biomatter. And now the Endo Sym/Superior Iron Man. Mass-produced suits sold as revolutionary nanotech, Symbiote reproductive function would be triggered. Therefore Stane would turn all of humanity into nanite-bio-goo as a "Next step in evolution."
>>150342470>>150342518Certainly put a lot of thought into this rendition of Iron man's rogues. How does Controller factor in? Would Basil Sandhurst also be a member of A.I.m sorta like in Ironman Armoured Adventures.
>>150342518>>150342470As to what I mean by Symbiote reproduction, they basically have the ability to turn other creatures into Symbiotes. This is considered a sacred rite amongst their people, only to be done when the long checklist of requirements has been filled. Also, unlike in 616, they’re NOT the creation of a dark god. They’re literally just aliens
>>150329771Because it's bad for them as characters, anon. It's always been bad. Pay attention to what it actually did to the twins, there's no sensible reason at all for anyone who actually likes either of them to want this. Unfortunately there's a lot of cartoon casuals like you who think "being Magneto's kids" is the entire point of Wanda and Pietro.
>>150342551There’s more where that came fromThe Demolisher. A "Villain" made for the Titanium Man to defeat for PR, except this thing is actually a short-lived vat-grown organism controlling a bulky robotic suit. It's made to put on a show and die afterwards.Madame Masque. Placed on a mask that lets her physically transform into other things with her exact mass. The tech is slowly bonding with her each time she uses it, causing a golden sheen to spread more and more across her body with each use. Spymaster. Just a normal person, and one of the best spies on the planet.Sunturion. A man aboard a space station designed to orbit the sun. Was exposed DIRECTLY to it and mutated into a solar-man. Now believes himself to be the "Chosen prophet of Sol." Urdanik. This robot is actually the Black Knight Satellite, or at least was contained inside it. Wants to force technological progress by any means necessary, even if it means plunging humanity into nuclear war. Gargantus. Basically someone going BACKWARDS in evolution to caveman mode.Night Phantom. Instead of special radioactive water, he turned to straight-up Balinese black magic to restore his legs. Now goes around using his supernatural powers to kill people in. His powers are WEIRD, often involving dismembered pig monsters and turning into a flying head.Termite. Man who was transformed into a swarm of organic-eating microbes. Midas. A billionaire mine owner who somehow turned himself into a golden statue. Hedonistic, terrifying, and also a potential rapist.Crimson Cowl. A hot lady in a red "Nano-cloak" that looks like dust or sand flowing behind her. She can form it into many shapes. although nothing too complicated. Atom Smasher. Basically a human-sized Shin Godzilla minus the adaption ability. A lot of the Iron Man villains are similar, so I went for this angle where a few of them are in-universe prototypes for later.
>>150328148Reimagined "Supreme" universe where the Squadron Supreme are the premiere superteam but are also tightly controlled by SHIELD and heavily managed to avoid international incidents. An overall more tech-heavy and grounded universe where true superpowers are rare but immensely powerful relative to those without powers.The Avengers are a private for-profit superteam led by Tony Stark and Hank Pym. They are reckless free-wheeling celebrities that are a foil to the main Squadron and occasionally clash on jurisdiction but are generally on the same side.Mutants still have the X-gene, but the key difference is that the X-gene drives them to seek out others with the X-gene. X-gene carriers also emit a passive radiation that corrupts normal human DNA into having children with the X-gene, which is why mutants are feared and shunned. The X-men aren't heroes or villains (even though SHIELD wants to act against them), they just to hide away in isolation and Charles Xavier is a big part of keeping them hidden away.
>>150342589Is Ironman/Tony Stark also similarly focused more on biological science fiction then robotic suits and armoury?
1993 to early 1996: loose history of Silver Age Marvel (though taking place in the 1990s instead of the 1960s) but Silver Surfer and Galactus arriving doesn't happen yet. By early 1996, Peter Parker just started college, Avengers is at the Cap's Kooky Quartet stage, Fantastic Four has just met the Inhumans, and the O5 X-Men probably fought Count Nefaria or somethingJuly 1996: events of Independence Day movie but altered by the presence of semi-experienced Silver Age era Marvel heroes and villainsAugust 1996-2015: Marvel history after being altered by the events of July 19962016: Independence Day Resurgence but altered by the already altered Marvel history
>>150331462>Peter gets cucked and goes insaneOf course he does, Tom
>>150342279yeah I know the type of X-men and Spidey fans you talk about, I only see them on this board and usually stay away from them so I understand your reaction to thinking I was one of them. truth is every popular comic book hero/team has their own retarded fanbases
>>150342966 why are you bitching about this peter getting cucked but not this one >>150338812?talk about double standards
Pretty much all I want is a faithful retelling of Spider-Man set in 1960s era. Have minimal crossovers outside of New York vigilantes like Daredevil, Punisher, etc. Go trhough all the early crim boss villains, then move into the larger than life villains like Doc Ock, Green Goblin, etc. Just 1000 chapters of Peter Parker's whole journey from 14 year old bitten by the spider to him finally pseudo-retiring and settling down with Mary Jane.
>>150342365Then lets make that part of the reason why the hate is real. Have a non x-men dedicated mutant nation that doesn't get blown up after an event and instead preaches the replacement theory loud and proud, in all books, giving the fear real feet.Have shit hole countries like North Korea turn around and become real threats because they enslave their mutants to become players on the field. You want people scared out of their wits and jumping at shadows at a possible threat, make it real scary shit. I want supers having to fight for the public trust and the label mutant on a super how we treat child toucher/dude-being-accused-of-fucking-an-18.25-girl from a tweeter post.
>>150343349>real feetbut enough about your fetishes.
>>150343349>Have shit hole countries like North Korea turn around and become real threats because they enslave their mutants to become players on the field.Wait let him cook
>>150344039>>150343349I feel like DC already kind of does this
>>150344045Both have probably did it over and over but smashed the reset status quo. I want an actual mainstay nation who basically are the realized mutant threat or a nation that took advantage of the potential. If best korea, have them have taken their brainwashing program to the next level with mutant party leaders and members actively mind controlling the citizens or other crazy to instill loyalty. When marvel has tried this with mutants in control, it crumbles into orgy islands or penal colonies before someone comes along and blows it to hell. If you want the mutant threat realized then have mutants in control of a nation and actively enslaving the humans using them for breeding stock and experiments. Take 1930s genetic theory to its extreme where flat liners win recognition by shitting out quality mutants.Also yes there is a secret foot cabal faction in the shadows as part of an even larger pact of sex loonies.All of this leads up to the idea that being tagged as mutie is on the level of being a pedo.
>>150344200I like your idea but your bias is insane
>>150328148I would make the Heroic Honey-Bee universe canon. Though I would limit the reverse genders and powers only to Spider-man and his immediate gallery of villains and allies.The Avangers, X-Men, F4, etc. stays as it is
>>150344200Wasn't that Genosha before Magneto took over?
>>150342742He’s 16.He wears a harness to keep him alive due to possessing several genetic illnesses such as weak heart.He built the Iron Man armor as an attachment for his harness so he could investigate Stane>The armor is very MADOX>His identity is something he keeps very secretI also did the Mandarin, Fin Fang Foom, Hypnotia, Detroit Steel, and Arsenal.
>>150344310Neat
>>150344637BTW Mandarin has huge Dynasty Warrior's energy and hates modern commie China
My version of the Surfer
>>150341930past a certain point everyone was literally just dead or mia in ultimate and there wasnt enough heroes remaining to stop any more event level threats like other anon said that was around the time hickman came on. It was pathetic I think at one point the strongest main hero was like hawkeye or something. Everyone being an asshole didnt matter by that point everyone was just like, dead.
>>150347670>Everyone being an asshole didnt matter by that point everyone was just like, dead.yeah it was kind of an edgeslop
>>150344200>Nah, I will just be straight and rape YOU instead!
>>150346822Silver SLURPer
>>150328148Either they're all mutants or none of them are
>>150348925Y
>>150328148Mutants are no longer their own special species, they are just a term used when someone naturally develops powers. Only genuinely crazy people want to think it's some super special evolution or subspecies of human, which are pretty much deranged supremacists like Magneto. Xavier's school is for anyone who develops powers, including kids of superheroes and villains, like Lizard's kid, FF kids, Sandman's daughter, Spider-Woman's daughter, etc.
>>150342432this is my absolute ironman helmet idea. i really like the idea of the visor that goes all the way around the head
>>150349675So basically exactly like 616 but remove fan headcanons.
Make Spider-Man: Minus One a reality
>>150344637Man, your ideas are so cool. I feel lame that my idea for Iron Man only really had society reflecting integration of his non-combat work such as prosthetics, my favored ship, and having some of his enemies copy traits from more popular guys. Even the suit in my head was basically just Modular with huge shoulder pads, spiky faceplate, and modern-style glowing eyes that glow when active, show his eyes normally when powered down.
Here goes nothing:>Captain America is mostly the same. He actually unthawed quite a few years before the present-day explosion of superheroes so he has a normal job, a wife, and two children who seem to be baseline humans. He has become mundane helping people out in his community to the point they forget he is a living legend. He is even more "team dad" than normal Cap. Physically he is in his early 40s.>Iron Man is the new head of Stark Industries at 24 after the sudden dead of his parents. He thinks he has a secret identity, but is terrible at keeping it (he has the same body language and habitual phrases). He is a master of machines and very social, but isn't very good at the business administration side of his job. Every week he finds some sort of underworld dealings his father was involved in, and wonders if it is possible to actually turn SI into a force for good. #3 of the "project your daddy issues onto Captain America" club.>Everything related to Asgard is conspicuously missing. The main deity running around is a woman calling herself Inanna who helps people because she is annoyed no one worships her anymore, and thinks being a superhero will make her famous again. She is prone to snap decisions, but has the power to back it up. Thousands of years old.>Hank Pym (~45) is a reclusive mad science guy who knows a lot of things about a lot of things. He doesn't operate directly as a superhero, but is behind over a dozen different insect-themed heroes (and a few bad guys who lied about their aims). Wasp (30) is the most famous famous one since she sought him out to avenge her father's death. Wasp is the PR face of the Avengers and the straight man to Inanna since they have some overlapping interests, but she has a more human perspective.>Hawkeye(19) is pretty much unchanged. Former carnie, trick arrows, can be a jerk, #1 about Cap-daddy issues, becomes more mature over time.>Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch (17). 1/?
>>150351053He wants to avenge his dad, Hamlet style. He can’t just kill Stane, he needs to make sure he gets enough evidence that Stane is pure evil
>>150351899>The twins are asymmetrical with Wanda being a magical construct by Chthon as a dedicated vessel for his revival on Earth, while Quicksilver is just a regular mutant. Both have a criminal record from being forced into a terrorist group and are under the supervision of the Avengers. Wanda has a somewhat self-loathing and gloomy aura, but latches on to Captain America and Wasp's hopes for a better future. She is prone to fainting or seizures, and the way her basic powers are described as is "causes things to fail", but she becomes a lot more powerful from learning direct magic applications. Pietro is a lot more insular outside of Wanda, and gets mad on others hitting on his "sickly" sister. #2 on the daddy issues club. Slightly loosens up, but still isn't particularly friendly. >Vision(<1) is the latest in a series of robots that have been growing through iteration that started with the original Human Torch when he built his son after the war. Externally he seems indistinguishable from a human outside his exotic coloration and solar jewel he gets power from. He is naive about the world, but knows he doesn't want to be like his father Ultron. He's kind of busted in terms of abilities, but his lack of experience means he doesn't have proper decision-making skills (he tends to favor the same move in battles even though it makes him predictable for example). As an aside, Ultron's original appearance was also human, but he discarded the pseudo-organic covering as a rejection of humanity. Vision would look like him if he also removed his. Since Vizh's ancestor was an ally of Captain America, Steve shows a bit of a bias towards him. >Black Panther (32) is also mostly the same as the original. He's shown to be a master diplomat and does negotiations for the Avengers when dealing with other--worldly things usually.>Black Knight(28) is another of Hank Pym's research fellows of vagueology. The Ebony Blade forms its own armor. 2/?
I would have 5 distinct on-going runs which focus on a different vibe/aspect of Marvel. It would be more in line with 'prestige TV' - like a HBO level (when it was good) format of heavy character building on top of solid event epic action sequences. It would be called MARVEL ERAS and each 'Era' would be a decade in the Marvel universe. 1950's: Bruce Banner as the Hulk is the protagonist. He's on the run, going from town to town doing good where he can whilst also trying to stay ahead of the US military and the Hulk trying to take control. This era also has a Western vibe, showcasing the more mysterious or horrifying heroes and villains. Johnny Blaze as Ghost Rider roaming from town to town would also feature heavily. Its the idea of the lone monster / supernatural entity that you just don't mess with. Most notably there is no idea of vigilantes or superheroes in the public consciousness yet. 1960's: This focuses on the cosmic adventures of The Fantastic Four, but also the mysteries of Stephen Strange. Emphasis on the surreal, strange; the Fantastic Four handle science and upbeat adventure, and family. Stephen Strange handles the darker, mysterious magic side of things. New York is the home base, but again the public consciousness of 'heroes' is very minimal. The Fantastic Four at treated more like celebrities than superheroes because most of their heroism is unseen and done off-planet. Stephen Strange evades the public eye for the most part. (1/2)
>>1503527101970's: This is the vigilante era in New York. Deals heavily in crime with Kingpin as the big bad. Daredevil is the lead and we start with a more grounded feel to crimefighting. During this era Peter Parker is in high school and has only just started being Spider-Man. As such he is not the major character but shows up and gets into trouble a lot. Culminates in the final defeat of Kingpin (death or reputation / dynasty utterly ruined to a point he'll never be able to attain again.) The end of Kingpin marks the switch over from Daredevil as the main lead to Spider-Man. Instead of criminal underworld as the main fighting arena, it becomes Spider-Man vs his rogues gallery. For numerous reasons the vigilantes which were fighting Kingpin and the other gang leaders before aren't around -- makes it so Peter is really on his own during this stretch. Culminates in the defeat of the Green Goblin, Doc Ock, and Venom, etc. 1980s: Spider-Man has defeated the bulk of his rogues gallery to a point that he can be Spider-Man less often. He starts a family with MJ and runs Parker Industries -- he becomes a mentor and someone to turn to for others instead of being the main hero himself. The protagonist of this era is Cyclops / Scott Summers. Scott Summers joins the X-Men, who take centre stage for this decade of story. Because of all the antics of previous decades, public trust of superheroes is heavily eroded (for numerous reasons) making it even harder for mutants to be trusted. All the best X-Men stories happen during this time. Cyclops's ideology is caught between Xavier's and Magnetos. Can he forge a new path for mutants? Culminates in mutants gaining their own nation.(2/3)
>>1503527371990s: Captain America is thawed from ice. Iron Man rises to prominence. Thor is banished to Earth. Hulk returns. T'challa reveals Wakanda to the world. This era focuses on international warfare and political intrigue, all whilst superheroes battle it out. Captain America and Iron Man are the dual protagonists trying to deal with the on-going crisis in their own ways. Spider-Man is long-since retired by this point, but there could be a clone of his that is thrust into the situation -- Peter has to deal with the existential crisis of knowing the real him got to have his happy ending, whilst the clone he is still needs to be a friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man.
>>150352430>The Ebony Blade has lots of other useful applications like anti-magic and cutting through most materials, but the curse is overwhelming. It feeds on blood, and influences his mind to draw it from foes. Even cutting himself with the Ebony Blade only delays its hunger. Even if he isn't carrying it, the Ebony Blade will summon itself to his hand when he is in danger, is thinking about the Ebony Blade, or certain holidays. It can reform itself from molecular disassembly. He thinks Wasp and Captain Marvel are attractive, but leaves to find a cure for this curse.>Jocasta(<0) is Vision's "little sister", made after Vision rejected Ultron. She lacks the soft outer shell and was intentionally designed weaker so she would be more likely to follow Ultron's will. She still rebelled against Ultron and tries to be a hero despite her frightening appearance, but she is really bad at socialization and tends to fade into the background. Her name is rather vestigial here. >Tigra (35) is a 3rd generation descendant of demons from Chthon's dimension. She's She-Hulk/Valkyrie sized in terms of height/muscles, and has disproportionately large hands and feet. She usually works as a cop in Chicago where she does the hat and coat thing, but helps out the Avengers a handful of times. Hellcat and Black Cat are others of her people, but they aren't nearly as bulky.>Captain Marvel (28) is mostly the same, but her sass/annoyed by nonsense bits from the future are backported. She is extremely good at logistics and organization. Considers Black Knight her best friend since she helped her with her own powers, but has no idea how to help him with with the curse of the Ebony Blade. Changes her hairstyle often. >Hercules (~3000) joins up much later than normal. He carries guilt from long ago, but covers it up with a boastful, party-loving banner. Compared to rivalry with Thor, he is horny for Inanna. >Fantastic Four were the first heroes of present, now in Negative Zone. 3/?
>>150344637>>150346455As to the rest of the villains>Mandarin is a fellow teen and the latest in the line of the Mandarins stretching back to the Xia dynasty. He uses 100 rings, each with a different power, embedded into his armor. He wants to depose of commie China and make the country one where people can choose their own fates.>FFF is a giant alien dragon who builds a device to... Do an interstellar gay kaiju booty call>Hypnotia MIGHT be Maria Stark, but she just wants Tony to "Stay with her." She might be Maria or a lady who was obsessed with Howard. Super Misery/Get Out vibes where she manipulates Tony's mind>Detroit Steel is Justin Hammer after getting consumed by his own hastily made nanotech>Arsenal is basically a Metal Gear forcibly built by 18 year old Howard during the 80s for the Cold War.>Black Knight was a Pict who's people were fucked by King Arthur. The Ebony Blade is basically the rage of the forgotten Celtic gods against Excalibur and Christianity as a whole. Whoever wields it shall be tasked with it's mission of killing the entire idea of Christ>Arno Stark is the reason Tony is as sick as he is, being a parasitic twin that was discarded but grew into an unexplainably healthy and supernaturally intelligent human being who's basically better than Tony at everything. And he considers Tony to be the parasite for the mere fact that he was the one who got father's affection.
>Moon KnightSeveral different Moon Knights running around now no one which confuses everyone because no one knows who the real Marc is blue, one red, one black, etc. All wearing suits themed after different colours the moon can be.>ThorI'd just make it like Elric of Melnibone novels Thor goes off on a quest to different random areas of the realms doing Thor stuff while he placed Loki in charge of the throne until he gets back from his wanderlust travels. >X-MenSent to space. They get a deal with the UN or something if they hand over their most violent criminals to face Nuremberg style trials where they get a planet in return some mutants willingly get a choice in staying while others leave on ships to this new world. They get there, discover it's actually inhabited while also going through power struggles of their own with various mutants trying to screw each other over to be top of the command chain.>Spider-ManPeter Parker is eyed by Norman Osborne to be his protege or something at a young age after realising how genius his scientific skills are and is adopted after both May and Ben die. This causes friction with Doc Ok who feels undermined by Peter's young age. Harry its kind of pissed Peter is being groomed into being the son Norman wanted. Norman is the mysterious Gold Goblin a hero with a tragic past. >Captain AmericaCap's 1950s mindset and way of thinking becoming surprisingly popular with a select group of people to the point where he's invited to go on talk shows and podcasts discussing how America ain't what it used to be he wants the America he knows back and decides to run for president his running mate is Norman >Iron ManHoward Stark caused his business to go bust and got bought out by Roxxon leaving Tony and his family penniless. Tony is brilliant, resourceful but constantly having trouble with authority figures I guess he's kind of like Absolute Batman he doesn't have any of his wealth to back him up
>>150353421Post was too long was going to say Tony is a lot like Macguyver crossed with Absolute Batman using whatever is on hand to defeat enemies. He's also a brilliant hacker. >HulkThere's a group of them carving territory out for themselves in some part of America they each have their own kingdom and the Gamma radiation is somewhat like the Green Lantern emotional spectrum different emotions trigger different transformations: lust, anger, greed, hope, etc. >Dr StrangeHe's some Chris Angel or David Blane type of douche huge narcissist and egoist doing magic stunts in public in an on and off again romance with Emma Frost That's all I got
>>150328148>no cape families/legacy additions>references/appeals to modernity, relevancy, politics, and synergy are banned>characters are not allowed to swap powers or adopt new mantles (enough of the symbiote-ghost rider-power cosmic- etc gimmick bullshit)>if a character dies their death is permanent and they are not allowed to be replaced, substituted, or pass on their mantles. death is final and all the surrounding cast members have to treat it as such>no love triangles, no NTR, no self inserts. >Thor Odinson is not a mantle, there is only one Thor, and his alter ego is Don Blake>Sentry, Marvelman, and equally stupidly OP characters are not allowed. The usual cosmic pantheon remain the highest power there is>Thanos, Galactus, and other villains of their power level can only be used sparringly (once to twice a year)
>>150353006>Their return would be tied to an Annihilus story that involves teaming up a bunch of heroes. Essentially the same as originals.>Namor died of old, but he was in contact with Captain America in his last years. Running around in his place is a teenage grandson who is all over the place genetically (Atlantean/Human mutant/Plodex/demon/Inhuman) and cancels out to just a funny looking guy who can swim well. >Mutants are relatively rare, with even "half-demon" being a more common reason for superpowers. X-Men consists of the generic team of Cyclops, Storm, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, and Kitty Pryde. Toad also joined them, but mostly out of a fear of being alone and has to be coaxed into risking his life for others. Magneto seems to be dead, but there are multiple groups calling themselves the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants or something similar with very little personnel overlap running around. Sentinels are actually repurposed from a government cold war weapons program (it involved trying to make mass-production versions of Human Torch but his technology was decades ahead of anything else)>For some reason the Defenders are an all-girl gang. Members are Clea(~20000), Hellcat(22), Ban-Louch(25 host, ~2000 soul. The counterpart to Valkyrie. Scots stereotype and is the "Badb" part of a greater warrior goddess. Presumably would combine with the others and become Morrigan later. Should her host's name be Barbara Hieland?), Moondragon(38), Andromeda (42), She-Hulk (34), and Polaris (19). Their adventures are rather absurd. Dr. Strange (148) is called the Ancient One which he finds strange since he knew an Ancient One as his teacher long ago, and the wife of Clea. Since his body is no longer able to directly fight against invading evils, he has a trio of disciples. I'll figure them out later. His unsurpassed amount of magical knowledge means even as an astral projection he can defeat pretty much any invading threat to the world however.4/?
>>150353923Speaking of which, my version of Doctor Strange has him have the same general backstory. EXCEPT he's also working as apprentice to the current Sorcerer Supreme because he drunkenly stumbled into the place and broke shit.
>>150353923>Hulk(42) leans heavily into the gentle giant that you won't like when angry version. Has been living on the run for decades. Because he can see ghosts, Dr. Strange is his friend despite being a stupid magician. Is the strongest in sheer muscle power of Earth's heroes, but would rather live in peace of nature. Dr. Banner's intelligent persona only occasionally comes out, typically when Hulk is forced into a situation punching won't resolve. There is a secret government project to try and mass-produce Hulks, but because of the high-risk involved in gamma radiation it isn't going well and most subjects die quickly.>Ghost Rider(30/NA) is a death row inmate possessed by a devil. He is forcibly made to hunt down those who are evil to atone for his past misdeeds. Since he is as bad if not worse than those he fights, his weakness that renders Penance Stare useless is his reflection instead of "I don't feel guilt". Wears a helmet normally, and you only see the skull behind the visor when he is going in for the kill. A demon woman tags along with him, claiming to be the lover of the Spirit of Vengeance, but rather she seems to be feeding off his kills. Spider-Man(25) is a new father, married to his college sweetheart Mary Jane. He is about normal for Spider-Man standards. He is by far the most serious about his secret identity of anyone, and is completely different between his two forms. He seems to be understood as the strongest of the "street level" guys, and is friends with most of them like Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Cloak and Dagger. Only Daredevil and Black Cat actually know who he is under the mask. His sense of humor is a lot worse than the original's though, with people thinking Spider-Man must be an old man with the kind of things he says outside of battle.That covers pretty much everything regarding good guys I would feel like using.
>>150354357>>Hulk(42) leans heavily into the gentle giant that you won't like when angry version. Has been living on the run for decades. Because he can see ghosts, Dr. Strange is his friend despite being a stupid magician. Is the strongest in sheer muscle power of Earth's heroes, but would rather live in peace of nature. Dr. Banner's intelligent persona only occasionally comes out, typically when Hulk is forced into a situation punching won't resolve. There is a secret government project to try and mass-produce Hulks, but because of the high-risk involved in gamma radiation it isn't going well and most subjects die quickly.This is just normal Hulk comics what the fuck have you never read them before
>>150354388Exactly. I wanted a very normal Hulk.
>>150354357My version of Spidey is pretty similar, except he also had a 7 year retirement when he was 18 after Venom killed Aunt May.He also has Mayday, and returns to action when she's put in danger
I should PROBABLY add more of these, but AMA
>>150354840Sure. What is up with She-Hulk? Delusion-based ability?
>>150354862More like her "She Hulk" persona becomes something she relies on for personal validation despite it not being good for her mental health.
>>150336830>>Carol Danvers stays Ms. Marvel with the same costume and personality and never becomes a space fascist.Mine's the opposite, she's ultra facist but genuinely thinks what she's doing is right, giving her a Thanos-like delusions of helping people with her abuses of power. She genuinely loves Jessica Drew, Jessica Jones, Kamala and to a less extent Kate Bishop and America Chavezand dykes out with America Chavez
>>150355148I had her do that as well minus the dyke shit.She's loyal to the Supreme Intelligence to a fault
>>150355148>>150355238Would she accept getting 200'd if it was the SI's idea for restarting the Kree like earlier planned?
>>150355278Yes but the SI would never do that because that doesn't work
>>150355301Understandable.
>>150355325Also, Nova is the one working to fight off the Kree
>>150328148I don't have a lot of good ideas, but here's what I'd do:USAgent has super-strength, and everyone who writes him better fucking remember it. I'd write a lot of stories about him beating the shit out of characters I don't like, sometimes for good reasons and sometimes for contrived 'heroes meet and they fight.'Thor and Hyperion are the apex of power, and power level fags can die mad and assblasted about it if they disagree. They are both, consequently, not as active because when either of them shows up it means shit has gone beyond real.Moon Knight is basically the same, but not Jewish, because I'm a bit of a /pol/tard. Black Knight has magical adventures. He is angsty as fuck because the ebony blade tells him to fucking murder everyone and it's an every day struggle not to. He's mostly a solo act.There can be more than one Ghost Rider. The really special one is the host of Zarathos and he's the only one who has the Penance Stare. And the rule is that the Penance Stare inflicts all of the suffering one's inflicted on innocents on the recipients. So the only people tanking it are people who haven't harmed innocents.I'd create a fake mutant ethnostate, stealing from everyone else and making it the reason everyone hates and fears mutants because it's like a modern day Sparta where mutants are the idle spartiates and humans the enslaved helots. I'd dial back the power levels of mutants so that they can't single-handedly destroy the world, but if the really powerful ones wanted, they could make a lot of countries have a really bad day. Squirrel Girl's around. She's my new universe's Power Girl, in the sense of being the designated big tit character. She's just a cute, nice, wholesome, and well-meaning heroine who has the most gigantic tits. All the heroes are nice to her, even the grumpiest ones, because they genuinely don't want to hurt her feelings because she's such a cinnamon roll.
>>150328148>The X-Men are a band of rejected outcasts trying to survive and be accepted by humanity, tossed away by society for not having "useful mutations" that can be exploited or merchandized. Harkens back to classic sci-fi psychic fiction. Mutant bigotry is akin to discrimination against the disabled.>Take the premise of Armored Adventures for Tony as his status quo, and toss in some tokusatsu influence as well. Tony fights against the USA military industrial complex. Something like Kamen Rider.>Spider-Man is a title being fought over by a handful of unrelated vigilantes who all got bit by the same radioactive spider but manifested different abilities (one got the strength, one got the smarts, one got the danger sense, one got the webs/stingers/physical spider parts, etc). Peter Parker is an accomplished scientist and teacher happily married to Mary Jane. He has nothing to do with Spider-Man.>Reed Richards died from the accident that normally scarred Victor in the mainline comics. To honor his friend, Victor took his place as a scientist and explorer, but struggles with filling in his shoes while wanting to become a much darker individual.>A young Bruce Banner makes a deal with Mephisto to bring back his mother in exchange for becoming his Ghost Rider. But when Mephisto screws Bruce over, Bruce decides to go below Hell and make a contract with something far worse.>Bob Reynolds dies from injecting himself with the experimental super-solider serum, but becomes the new Moon Knight as Khonshu's right hand. The Void manifests as Khonshu's left hand who operates whenever Bob is asleep.>The gods of Asgard are all dead but embued their souls and essences into mundane objects: Donald Blake stumbles upon a cane while in a thrift store and Thor now walks the Earth once more!>Fuse together Nova with Starbrand.>Namor is now a girl and a massive tsundere ojou-sama pirate queen who has a thing for lonely outcast men.
>>150355961>Captain America was a piece of wartime propaganda made by the military but contrary to this, sightings of him persist all across the world, long after WW2 came to a close. Who exactly is this? A delusional man? An actor? Or something supernatural?>Frank Castle nearly dies along with his family but he survives thanks to an alien symbiote that latched on to him at the last minute. He then agrees to work with his new partner in ridding the streets of crime.>The Wolverine is a title passed down from a wild man with bone claws to a cyborg military hitman to a long-lived katana-wielding regenerator.>Blade is actually a classic vampire in the vein of Dracula who goes around hunting manmade vampires modeled after contemporary pop culture depictions.>Galactus isn't a devourer of worlds, but an awesome and powerful judge and creator who exists as a representative for the One Above All. His Heralds act as proxies who take human forms to see which worlds are worth sparing.>The Skrulls, Kree, and Shi'Ar accidentally nuked themselves and now small pockets of them quietly live on Earth, with some heroes and villains being their descendants.>HYDRA was annihilated by the Allies during WW2 but lived on in South America and contributed towards the Space Race. Modern HYDRA takes the form of police stations, online hate groups, and terrorist gangs who operate on a tight leash pulled around by the American government but with plausible deniability. Despite being a Nazi group, many modern HYDRA members aren't even German or European.>Wakanda is believed to be a myth in the vein of Atlantis. T'Challa's ancestors completely hid their civilization after a massive war nearly threatened to destroy Africa as rival groups outside and within the nation fought over Vibranium. T'Challa undoes the magic spell that hides Wakanda, and the world will never be the same again.
Here I goIron Man is listed here>>150344637>>150342470>>150342518>>150342589>>150353144Onto other things>Spider-Man is 25, has 2 kids, one of which is 4 year old Mayday and the other is a newborn, with MJ. Young parent problems and whatnot. He retired 7 years prior when Venom killed Aunt May and he killed Venom in kind. Returns as Spidey when Mayday's life is threatened by a supervillain raiding a kindergarten because they're a pedophile.>Venom is currently dead, but it's story bears mentioning. In a "Classic" sense, the Symbiote did not corrupt Spider-Man, but rather made him so strong that he got a power high so intense that his behavior became awful. When Spidey blamed it and removed it, it got pissed because it didn't do shit, so it got someone who hated Spider-Man, Eddie Brock, and they became Venom. They just HATED Spidey. Eventually killed Aunt May when Peter turned 18, and Peter killed him in kind. But he had a bastard child, Dylan.>Carnage, I already explained. Notably, Cleetus is NOT a serial killer. He merely struggles with his mental health issues, but being physically transformed into an alien goo monster didn't do wonders for him. See, Kylntar reproduce by transforming members of other species into Symbiotes. It's a sacred rite in their culture, but the inert mindless goo Cleetus was in contact with basically triggered the function on-contact with his open wounds. Now Cleetus basically IS a Symbiote, and his "Carnage" is a panicked reaction.>Electro used to be a goofy electricity themed villain who seemed to actually enjoy fighting Spidey, but overuse of his powers fried his brain and gave him dementia. Now he's in a hospital, but Peter visits constantly out of guilt>Doc Ock is a college-aged freaky sweaty lesbian who can't take no for an answer. Eventually when a demonstration of her arms goes wrong, she snaps and goes around kidnapping women who rejected her to add them to her "Harem."1/?
>>150356437>Prowler 2 is Miles. 15 year old Peter stopped Prowler 1, but his refusal to lethally deal with the mob he was in debt with ended up getting poor uncle Aaron killed. Miles hates Peter for doing this, but he's just conflicted. When Peter returns as Miles turns 18, he goes on his vengeance crusade but can't bring himself to kill Peter>Green Goblin is Gwen Stacy. All of her pent-up horrible desires behind the pretty perfect prodigy exterior let loose. Her id. Secretly wants to be the Goblin forever. Rides a motorcycle and witch's broom. Hobgoblin is Gwen after using a magical artifact to remove her sanity and become a literal goblin monster>Rhino is a literal humanoid rhinoceros who has immense intelligence and wants the rhinos to take over the world>Kraven is an organization rather than one dude. A mercenary company. The leader died of cancer during the 7 year retirement >Spider-Slayer is a robot designed to kill Spider-Man, but after 7 years of him being missing, it developed feelings for him. It loves him and wants him dead because he's literally all it can think about>Knull. NOT a god. A delusional symbiote with a severe god complex. She acts like fucking Yzma I swear to god. Uses the terrified Carnage as muscle>Vulture. Grandfather with a high-tech wingsuit who is FAR too healthy and spry for his 70-something age, physical embodiment of "please stop praying for my grandpa, you're making him too strong and the cops cannot catch him">Morlun. Wanted to consume Spider-Man because apparently radioactive spider juice smells fucking delicious to a weird vampire-like aristocrat like himself. Kicked the shit out of Spidey when the latter was 16, only to be defeated by The Thing intervening. He returned post retirement after being defeated the first time, but he found that Spider-Man had become stronger, revealing that yes, Morlun was a fraud who picked on weaker heroes.2/?
>>150356535>Scorpion. Just a weirdo with a tail suit that gives him super strength and the ability to absorb people for power. Kinda wants to eat Spider-Man. Still running around being a dick. Very Imperfect Cell, although weirdly funny due to how he talks in a funny voice.>Spot. A virus that forces the infectee’s bodies to obey different laws of physics bit by bit. Not an individual, a group term. >Black Cat. A literal cat who’s owner, an actual witch, turned into a human because she wanted an apprentice. Still a cat at heart and wants shiny things and is more interested in gems than learning magic.
>>150356558Oh, and I forgot>Dylan Brock. Half-Symbiote. Lives at an orphanage. Can turn into a Symbiote at will. Unlike his hulking uncanny-valley father, his "Venom" form has one eye, no mouth, and generally looks like it doesn't want to be seen. Misses his father and is generally really depressed over how he doesn't feel he belongs anywhere. Like, some Klyntar once came to visit him, but even spending time "As" one of them he didn't feel like he belonged. He has no friends besides the Power Pack. Has beef with Spider-Man, but considering his dad admitted all the horrible things he's done, he wonders if maybe it was for the best that Eddie died.
>>150356437Dr. Tentacle rape
>>150354840>why is the Hulk lucifer, >and Black Panther Aragorn? >Why is Nick Fury a woman? >Why does Captain Marvel have a pedo mustache?
>>150356727>Hulk is a sociopath who's basically a fucking man-made deity. Beautiful, powerful, and entirely motivated by self-interest >Wakanda was pillaged by African warlords due to being a pacifistic culture, and only the warrior T'Challa can reclaim it>Because I felt like it>Heh
>>150354840What's up with Nova as Ultraman? Explain the details on Flexo and Silver Surfer too. Also Winter Soldier and Pepper Potts, what the fuckBlade as a Catholic vampire hunter is baller. How exactly is Doom now like Shredder?
>>150356793>Sam Alexander been bonded to an extraterrestrial entity of godlike power, in this case the Nova Force (Galactus' reincarnation, it's a long story,) and charged with becoming strong enough to free Xandar from the Kree.>Flexo is a "Rubber Robot" from WW2. Woken up in the modern day after decades of being forgotten about in a warehouse, he just kinda wanders around doing weird shit in search of orders. >Bucky was kidnapped. Since Cap was frozen by Hydra, they needed a test subject for their efforts to replicate the Super Soldier process. Bucky was the other guy they captured, so they decided to use him. The rest is history.>Pepper was the first test subject of Stane's "Endo-Sym." Used as a spokesperson, she didn't know she was basically wearing nanite-infused mindless Symbiote biomatter until Stane activated a signal that permanently TRANSFORMED her body into the suit material. Like, if you cut her open you wouldn't find flesh, just nano-goop. Stane basically turned her into the first of his "Post-Humans" against her will, and now she's unable to take the suit off because she IS the suit.>Doom is the actual pettiest, most hate-fueled human being of all time SOLELY because Reed cucked him. Like "Uses time travel to kill Reed's childhood dog as a puppy in front of him" as just a warmup
>>150356761Is T'Challa a ranger-like wanderer in the beginning, running from his duty too?
>>150356864Kinda? He's more biding his time (Read: Procrastinating because he hated how weak his people were) and the moment someone tells him to stop fucking Ugandan prostitutes and kill some African warlords and get Wakanda's shit back, he's up and at 'em
>>150356886>fucking Ugandan prostituteshow many STDs does he canomically have?
>>150356943He uses protection.Nanomachines
>>150356974Ah. I wonder how many bastards he sired on accident.
>>150357389None.
>>150357401ALSO Black Panther's suit has nanotech. And unlike in the MCU he doesn't use it for dramatic suit-ups. He uses it to straight up do insane shit like make his legs longer so he can run super fast, give himself gorilla arms, and basically use the powers of different African animals
>>150328148>Avengers need to exist in some form.It'll be shit, over used, exhausted, an overly beaten dead horse.
>>150328148PeterFel marriage and ongoing comic.
>>150357890I just used what's normally the GLA as the "Avengers"
>>150328148>Ex-soldier and police officer Frank Castle watches his family gunned down by the mob as retribution>he decides that the only way to destroy the mob is to control them, thus becoming The Kingpin of Crime>his primary bodyguard and right hand man, the imposing Wilson Fisk takes care of The Kingpin's problems with lethal force under the guise of The Punisher
>>150329677why stop there? let beast be bi and top wonderman AND psylocke at the same time
>>150328148i wouldn't want a new marvel universe. i'd want to fix 616, which would be orders of magnitude easier
>>150358754Why
>>150358084I still find it weird there’s not a single AU book of this Gwen has at least 3 AUs and she’s been dead nearly as long as ASM has been published
>>150357890But enough about X-men
I thinkthey should make the avengers inter-continental. And by that I mean >USA(and by that, I mean the whole of the USA, not just Yorkcucks), >Europe (and by that I mean make up a cool European hero, or if too creatively bankrupt, just have Doom as a good guy, especially because it would be funny if there was a guy named "doom" amongst the good guys), >Africa (and by that I mean Wakanda, because there is absolutely no way having a hero from a real african country wouldn't offend some absolute dipshit from either side of the political spectrum)>Asia (and by that I mean Japan, because they have maybe the morality that is the most compatible with western values, which is a byproduct of their government desperately trying to larp as white europeans. I know that the middle east is also Asia, but I am not touching that shitshow. Not even with a pole.)>Australia (Just have an unapologethic aussie on the team that basically walks up to any hellspawn and goes "yoink".)>South America (Have a brazilian chick on the team who blends Capoeira with her fighting style. She would be this team's black widow replacement.)
>>150328148I would make Paul Rabin black.
>>150328148I would write myself as emperor of the universe with Wanda Storm Photon Phoenix Black Cat and Magik as my harem
>>150359288I like the idea that the world's defenders are from all around the world.
>>150359587Then I would be the next writer, MY OC would dethrone (You) and (You) would be part of MY harem!!
>>150342966My idea is that Peter is a tragic figure. We know how much good he is capable of but instead we'd see him go down a path of hatred due to factors outside his control. After all his bad luck has always been a thing.
>>150328148Spider-Man/Peter Parker abuse is nonexistent.
>>150328148I've thought of this quite a few times. I've gone through various iterations, depending on what I use as a starting point. Eventually I just decided to treat it all as a big Sci-Fi type project with a vast cast of characters, thereby creating a certain "tone". Obviously I'd focus on the aspects I found more interesting, and do away with what I didn't care for. I figured that as Marvel did start off as a big Sci-Fi project where the majority of titles came from the same people, this sort of streamlining would make some sense. Anyway, I'd go and fix all the cosmological and whatnot stuff first, laying down some ground rules. There's tons of duplicates of gods and demons that do the same exact things, on top of too many "true origins". Then I'd move onto the "titles" themselves. I get that IRL there are lots of random things that happen, lots of groups and so on, but we're talking about a story here, and there needs to be some cohesion, some sort of linearity. Otherwise it's all too jumbled when every single genre is thrown in together. For example take all the gods and demons. What, does every single Pantheon exist and they all just sit there and do nothing? Did they exist before and humans ended up totally looking like them? Does every mythology's beast and devil also exist? Every boogeyman? It's all too much. So I'll be streamlining it all, using a lot of oversimplifications in some cases.I'll begin with the BIG big guns.>Celestials are utterly mysterious and supernatural beings that appear very, very sparingly and for unspecified reasons>they might be angels directly sent from TOAA for all anyone knows>they seed very few planets throughout the universe, and very rarely, for reasons shrouded in secrecy>when a dominant form emerges, they come back, select a couple, hyper-evolve them to the apex, and leave them behind as guards; the so-called EternalsFew worlds/races have them, and each one is different.
>>150360113Here on Earth the Eternals and Inhumans are mashed together. I know that Inhumans have their fans, but I never liked their society or gimmick. It's stupid to me how their entire society works. But the Royal Family has nice enough designs that I can work them in. The Eternals have a nice concept but at largely boring with no standout characters besides I guess Sersi. So I'll mix the two together to get something that fits me. And there'll be a lot of importance placed on them. >Eternals all have Antiquity derived names to make them sound ancientSidenote: Black Bolt is the only one with an entirely comicbooky and not actual name, so I'm renaming him to Agon and "Black Bolt" will be a rough translation of his powers. Midnight King would be his proper title.>some of them did inspire certain myths and stories over the years, but are not the actual Egyptian/Greek/Babylonian/etc godsI'll touch the gods a bit later, bear with me.>Celestials only leave each Eternal group the prime directive of protecting this world; the rest is up to themThis basically is a test to see how each species from each world they've seeded differs. Some Eternals sit by and do nothing. Some try to uplift their people too early. And so on, with varying results.>Earth Eternals stood by and watched mostly, from their Olympia, until they decided to select a group and try to uplift them, thus creating Atlantis (basically what's instead of Attilan here)>at first they were content to build and build, but eventually after generations they grew too cocky and started waging war to everyone>the Eternals drowned the entire kingdom, causing the Great Flood, and genetically changed them to live underwater, tasking them with protecting this world from the things that hide in the depths>Atlanteans thus developed a very guilt-ridden culture and await to one day be remembered by their godsSo Eternals are on standby gain, appearing briefly throughout the Antiquity.
>>150360116I'll move to space for a bit and lay out some basics. >Tribunal and so on exist as Abstracts, nothing changes>some alien worlds are seeded by Celestials, some are seeded by races seeded by Celestials>some have a common ancestry and look similar, others are wildly different>some have Empires, others just exist as smaller groups, etc>there are debates over which ones are older, which ones are purer and so onNot everyone would get built up from the start is what I'm getting. There wouldn't be new species coming out every week. I think the Universe should have enough races to be populated, but not enough where the mystique is utterly destroyed.>Kree are a technocratic Empire and the big dog around>Shi'ar/Spartax are merged and are a more religious Empire and the Kree's main rival>Skrulls are utterly foreign in thought and culture, an enemy of the entire universe due to their shapeshifting ways and they worship eldritch beingsThese are basically the big ones. I'm not going to get into the Badoon or Dire Wraiths or whatever else. Smaller alien worlds exist is my point, but the Big 3 are those ones.>Galactus is a 616/1610 mix>Galactus exists to keep the balance by judging cultures that have reached a certain point>he sits at the centre of the universe and sends out the Gah Lak Tus swarm alongside a Herald (of which he has multiple) as a first test>if the world/culture opposes the Swarm he visits them again aeons down the line, except for some special cases>Galactus isn't a Celestial but "the last man alone with God" from the previous universe who enters a new one as a test before he can ascend >Galactus essentially drains the entire world from all planes, grabbing the lifeforce and even gods built from that race's consciousness (more on that later), everything, leaving behind a husk of a worldI love the idea of a story where they defeat the Swarm and later come across a dead world without even seeing the real Galactus.
>>150360125With that taken care of, let's move onto the supernatural gods and demons. Basically there are two categories; Primordial and Extradimensional entities that existed anyhow, and ones born out each world's collective consciousness and belief. Someone like Nyx is the embodiment of the night and cold space, so she's an extremely powerful primordial. Someone like Dormammu is an extradimensional entity. Mephisto swings between a generic devil born from humanity's collective fear of a horned demon, and an actual primordial representation of this genuine personification of evil. Ones like Sattanish, Marduk and such are created by humanity's belief.>what about the godsI'm taking Gaiman's idea and going with the route where they exist solely due to belief. So the SkyFather God looks and acts closer to Zeus because throughout the Western world he's the one that had the most reign. Olympians are the common identities but Asgardians, the Ennead, they have some representation. But even the Olympians aren't "whole". For example the idea of a Sun God is baked in every myth, so sometimes it's Ra, sometimes it's Apollo. Selene/Luna is very powerful, etc. Basically they're singular higher dimensional entities that take aspects and traits of the more defining thoughts. Chinese ones exist, but there's no Aztec god running around. >Thor is technically around as he's an aspect of the Thunder SkyFather God, but there's none of the actual adventures and supporting cast; he's far less powerful, but is higher than say, Khonshu>"Loki" is around as he's the personification of the Trickster God, sometimes going by Hermes, Mercury, etc>Khonsu is around and powers the Moon Knights throughout the agesYou basically get where I'm going. Concepts that are very widespread, from gods to monsters, exist. Ones that died out over the ages have disappeared. So Myths and that exist, just on a much more specific scale instead of merely being everything everywhere.
>>150360135Back to demons and whatnot, there would be evil entities that pre-existed, and ones that were born on Earth (and other alien worlds for that matter). >Chthon is the personification of the Earth's magic, and is extremely old and powerful, the most powerful magic god of sorts>wrote the Darkhold which contained all sorts of magics in it, good and bad, and let it loose>over the ages it's used and misused, sometimes leading to mages, sometimes leading to horrors, and so on>magicians start appearing and they write their own spells and books and so onSidenote: Magic here would basically be the source code to the universe. If you do the rituals right and have the belief and so on, or just if a god fancies you, it works. It's not "magic is just science" but it's not unexplained either. There are people more predisposed to talent, but technically anyone can do it. It's just that like with science or art you can pick up a pencil and starting solving/drawing, if you're not smart enough, you won't actually do much whereas some other guy just speeds through it. >magic is connected to the gods, the primordial entities, as they all exist on higher planesThe Celestial connection is more vague. There wouldn't be a "magic gene" left by Celestials in there, it'd just be the way the universe works, more focused on higher planes and consciousness and all that.>the mantle of the Sorcerer Supreme exists on every Earth with a magic community Some planets would go full technocracy and abandon magic, so their gods would die, magic would die, and so on. >there is the mantle of the Sorcerer Supreme of the Universe, but it's thought to be a mythBasically it'd be a wild goose chase. Every time Strange or whoever would find THE planet where the contest is taking place, it'd be a ruse and a case of >congrats, you're now SS of Earth and Hala and Kevlaron and Trundar and [...]; keep tryingSo there are SSs all over and they all have their techniques, etc.
>>150360143Things like zombies, vampires and so on would all have their source in the Darkhold. Some alien worlds might have something similar due to their world's "chthonic" entity creating it, others might not. The beasts of myth would be born out of half-truths and half-belief, but the monsters of folklore would be more rooted in this demonic magic of sorts.>zombies are just the result of a resurrection spell gone awry>vampires were people trying to become immortal and basically getting damned>at the same time there are some older vampires, products of mixing between demons and humans, who are much more powerfulThe difference would be that the ones born from the spell are more feral and animalistic, whereas as the ones descended from those demons are basically the cliche half-demon characters with a vampire aesthetic and coating. >Ghost Riders have been around forever, all borne out of contracts with Mephisto>they mostly hunt down escaped demons, people trying to cheat him, etc>most of the Riders were hard enough scum that Mephisto gave them the contract; eventually after their time is done they just become generals in his realm>some Riders, borne out of a selfless selling of their soul to save something, if they persevere, are saved from Mephisto's handsI just don't like the idea of the literal God/TOAA being so involved. I think there should be a loop where a GR could redeem himself, but it should be a special case.>the Midnight Suns (yes, Suns, it fits more) are a group assembled throughout the ages, always containing the current incarnations of the Moon Knight, Sorcerer Supreme, Ghost Rider, wielder of the Ebony Blade, etcThere'd be additions from current heroes each time, but these would be mainstays for the group to function. >Hand is some demonic cult who sees themselves as the Hand of God; Matt is one of the many orphans taken in and is groomed He's not a villain, he's trying to steer them right, but he's a more magic-aligned character.
>>150360149We've done Celestials, Eternals/Inhumans, Atlantis, Magic, so now I'm moving onto the Earth specifically. So I'll tackle the last big problem of the MU, the goddamn mutants/X-Men. To me they're the most lore-breaking thing. Aliens, magic, it's all fantasy. But the whole>hurdur I have a gene that makes me god of ice and hurdur I have the same gene but it turns me into a monkey with three facesis pure retardation. It's moronic. So I'm fixing it. And if you don't like it, bugger off.>at some point the Eternal Maximus got too bored and started screwing around with experiments>he figured he was protecting the Earth by improving the population>he created some beasts that'd later become part of myths, some monsters and so on>eventually he moved to human experimentation and his first full success was the man who'd come to be known as Apocalypse>proud, he gives him the mission of shepherding the "special people" that will come to be, to test them and prepare them, while showing him the Celestial lore left behindSo Apocalypse is technically the first mutant, but he's concerned with the entire world and what groups come out on top, he's not a mutant simp.>Maximus uses Apocalypse's genetic code, mixes it with more Eternal/Celestial tech and basically creates an RNG nanotech box that he breaks apart and releases in the wild>what would come to be called the "X-Gene" would be a gene that could be combined in a couple of different ways, giving the person with a full X-Gene a proper power from a selected powersetBasically all of them would be useful powers. Telekinesis, energy manipulation, healing factors, etc. So "mutants" would be very few and would pass on in history as part of myths and folklore, alongside all the other things.>the twist would be that Maximus got the OK from Agon to set this in motion>some Eternals would get busy and sire bastard children who'd then have other children and certain heroic lineages would be formedContinued...
>>150360158So basically "mutants" wouldn't be a thing. You'd have another group descended from Celestial tech that would result in basic powers that godly and demigodly figures around the globe possessed. At the same time there'd be people more predisposed to sorcery and whatnot, so there wouldn't be a "mutant race"; period. It wouldn't be a single X-Gene that turns one into a god and another into a walking hedgehog. These people would be very rare and would even vary in their powerlevels.>around the Atomic Age the X-Gene does get affected by the radiation, creating certain monstrous looking mutants who have some ancestry from older experiments of Maximus, not the ones descended from Apocalypse's code>these "mutants" are called Deviants and people are actively trying to cure them>a couple learn to live with themselves, others are put down for being too dangerous, and so on>all the X-Men are full-fledged X-Gene-Carries that Xavier deliberately chooses and pushes to the forefront>"Magneto" is a much older individual, who went by Magneto briefly before understanding that he could control the entire ElectroMagnetic spectrum>he studied magic and goes by "Magnus", his real name being Erik Maximo, father of Wanda and Pietro>he's old money and is an acolyte of Apocalypse who cares only for the strongest of the strong>Wanda is incredibly off the charts powerful and Pietro is so fast he can basically manipulate space and time to travel>the disagreement between Xavier and Magnus is that while Xavier is hiding his gift and is trying to generally help everyone he can, even Deviants and whatever, Magnus is utterly uninterested>Sinister keeps the same origin more or less and basically tries to follow in the footsteps of MaximusBasically the turning point is the Atomic Age here and how it impacts everything. Before you had no aliens, just a couple of monsters and myths, and now it's all a whole lot more complicated. Cont...
>>150360170>during WW2 the SSS is created, and nobody can actually replicate it because it was Kree in origin>Kree, Spartoi and Humans all share a common ancestor, and so both alien empires keep an eye on Earth once we're discovered, for multiple purposes>Kree got here first and gave variants of the SSS to both sides of the conflict, to see what'd happen>HYDRA lost faith in the AXIS and withdrew support so they folded, Cap got frozen, etc>SHIELD keeps the origin from Hickman's Shield, existing as a West-aligned hidden organization, that has existed in various forms over the years>SWORD and SPEAR have common origins but they've drifted in various directions over the ages, headed by different philosophies, and all contesting with one another>HYDRA is an offshoot of them all that went deeper into the occult and the arcane, existing mostly in the shadows and less so as a centralised entity until recently>AIM is just a bunch of technocratic and science-worshipping terrorists So that's the basics before we reach a vauge 2000s-esque [current day]. It's not 2007, 2027, or 2047, it's just a "now".>history does mostly go the same as IRL, and we reach that new millennium, with Cap being unearthed, and the Age of Marvels begins>like in Ultimate, Hulk, Iron Man, Osborn, all are connected with trying to replicate the success of the SSS with their own way >during their college years a couple of the MU geniuses did find themselves together, in a Dead Poets Society type of situation>Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, Reed Richards, Hank Pym, all togetherI wouldn't add more to not make it ridiculous, these 4 are enough. And they'd call themselves "Fantastic Four".>Banner here isn't a repressed nerd, but he actually unleashed his darker side early on, killing his abusive father, so he projects a more masculine and dangerous front>Tony's the same, Reed's the level headed one, Pym's got his insecurities but is best buds with Tony and gets supportContinued...
>>150360178Cont.>Tony tries to get to the SSS through cyborg transhumanism, Pym's just doing his thing, Reed's into space>Banner has darker impulses and tries to get to the next step in human biology, so when he turns into the Hulk it's a pure Jekyll/Hyde thing>he first transforms as a dark green Hulk who's entirely savage; not because he's dumb but because he's free>the twist is that he pretends to be retarded so that Banner can bear no responsibility and just go ham on everything during fights>as time goes on he turns more grey, achieving a kind of balance>when they're all out of college they go their separate ways but they keep in touch>Tony's the playboy industrialist who supplies SHIELD>Pym's mental health deteriorates but he and Tony keep in touch and are working on what'll turn into Ultron>Banner has what I described above>Reed meets Sue and together they set up the Future Foundation (kinda)There are no actual F4 as a team here. Sorry, I don't care for Ben and Johnny. Instead it'd be an FF book with Reed/Sue as Mr. & Mrs. Fantastic heading the Foundation and being the core, with new characters coming and going, as they explore the Earth, the universe and so on.>Reed and Doom meet as adults during a conference, and they hit it off>Doom's not scarred yet or anything, he's some poor scientist from Balkan nowhere who projects a very kind front >is initiated with the Fantastic Four and they become the Fantastic Five>secretly Doom's just utterly consumed by envy, pettiness and rage, he's an occultist vying for the place of Sorcerer Supreme, is already trying to conquer Latveria and the world, etc>Reed and he set up a company together, called Future Foundation>Doom secretly uses funds for his own experiments with the occult, attempting to contact souls, see higher planes of existence and so on>Reed and Sue are working on their own branches and take a while to pick up Doom's sins>at some point they do, and through the board shut him downCont.
>>150360187Cont.>Doom's machinations come to light, his dealings with weapon manufacturing, ties with HYDRA and so on>he's disgraced and quietly kicked out to not cause a scandal to the Foundation>Doom REEEEs, breaks in and attempts to use his main machine to travel to another realm>he stumbles to Mephisto's realm, gets scarred forever>blames Reed and retreats>Reed and Sue repurpose the machine for cosmic travel and teleportation>they go alone during the first mission, but something goes wrong during the process (remnants of Doom's occult tech they didn't understand to find and remove) so the crew gets fried, Reed and Sue get their powers and are adrift in space before finding their way back>once home they pick crews and explore various places, now with a safer machine built from scratch>Doom goes on his usual journey more or less, and when he sees that Reed and Sue are back from the dead and celebrated, he goes completely mental and vows to utterly destroy them on his way to godhood>by that time Stark's doing his thing as Iron Man, Hulk's kinda contained by SHIELD, Cap's been awoken and a new arms race has started; Pym's not an active superhero, he mostly does his research in a safe spaceI'm sorry, but shrinking heroes are stupid once the novelty wears off. It's fun but limited. I'd rather Pym be just a civilian scientist who meets Janet and is kinda happy for once. If Janet suits up as Wasp she'll turn into a whore and that's done. >Hawkeye doesn't exist because he's boring, Widow is the cyber-enhcanced spy-assassin Fury uses>Avengers are assembled by Fury to fend off an alien invasion; the Kree sending a bunch of schmucks to test Earth and the results of the SSS>Thor's usual place goes to SentryI just find the idea of an actual mythological god as part of tech based characters to be stupid. And with how I've set up the way my gods here, it'd not even work within the setting. Thor might have his adventures, but they'd not be at the core.
>>150360189>Robert Reynolds was a middling scientist with a severe inferiority complex who got work in AIM after being kicked out of HYDRA>he was working on a project that was meant to transform someone into a higher being, with bits and pieces of Celestial and Eternal knowledge before a SHIELD raid >he gets given the choice to work for them or die, so he quickly folds and is basically turned into Fury's whipping boy>eventually manages to crack something, but instead of a proper test he tries the experiment on himself and turns into the Sentry>he's now more confident, calm and even kind, projecting a complete makeover to the point where Fury trusts him enough to place him on the Avengers as the top gun>secretly he harbors the Void and starts having crashouts around the globe that nobody can understand at firstIt's a long arc how he goes from Avenger to a solo act, with the Void lore and all that. It'd be half his suppressed darker side, and half a connection to something else. Some tidbits before I get to the X-Men.>Thanos is a rogue Earth Eternal who travelled to other Eternal outposts and saw life as a failure, now trying to spread as much death as possible and mock existence>Adam Warlock was created by Maximus, this time not trying to manipulate humans, but trying to create his own EternalBasically around the "now" the Eternals would get into the game and start breaking mold.>Herc was one of those children sired by an Eternal, who acted so heroically (in the Antiquity sense at least) that he was given a boost and allowed to roam the world as a hero>due to that he's known many Sorcerer Supremes and so on, being involved in nearly everything big that went down in the world>Namor's an Atlantean and while not a "full" mutant (Atlantis fell before Apocalypse), his father was a carrier, so he's close to Eternals in power, and is so arrogant because he thinks it's his divine duty to protect the whole worldCont.
>>150360195Cont.>Avengers start off as Iron Man/Cap/Hulk/Widow/Sentry, and are more militaristic in their way of acting>they're US-based in the beginning, but they get bigger and more international, with lots of branches and whatnot>Excalibur is a British team that takes on anything, led by Captain Britain, who's the latest in a long line of Merlin's ChampionsThe Braddocks are all mutants, part of the Apocalypse line, and that comes into play. Merlin's a wizard alien or something, I haven't decided that. No CBC, that's too dumb, but I'd repurpose the concept.>Defenders are assembled by Strange, fighting alongside Namor, Herc (instead of Hulk) and a fourth/fifth slot that changes on the story, to take on threats that are too weird for the Avengers, but not occulty enough for the MS>no Wakanda because fuck your power fantasies for retards>Panther still exists, as an Egyptian heir to a vast fortune, coming from a long line of Bastet worshippers; it's more of a tradition now than a genuine belief>he's basically Med/MENA Iron Man with a furry gimmick and who takes part in magic-based stories and has a partnership with Moon Knight>the Hellstorms are bastards of Mephisto trying to create a link to Earth; might be the AntiChrist(s), are sometimes good, sometimes bad>Angela isn't a goddamn Asgardian, she descents and claims to be a literal angel; could be, could be a spirit, could a demon, could be anything, I don't think I'd ever answer it truly unless there was an actual ending story>Spider-Man does whatever, I don't much intend to go in-depth>Symbiotes are just a leftover bioweapon from some land time forgot and it's never answered; basically Alien 1 Xenos>Knull is a Kree or something who got his own Symbiote and is some space-farring villainThe design is good enough for a recurring punching bag, but Knull just doesn't work as a name for this type of villain. Neither do Symbiotes. I'd flesh out the Void's demonic aspects more. Cont to X-Men.
>>150360200Cont.>Xavier is one of the very and actually powerful telepaths>he sets up his school for all kinds of special people>Magnus is all "you're a bleeding heart bitch and you're guarding wastes of space" and they eventually part>deep down he knows he's right to an extent and continuously funds cures for the Deviants>he selects the X-Men based on attractiveness and power, attempting to build basically his own Avengers because he doesn't trust the governments and SHIELD>Sentinels are a use-for-all defense, not mutant detectors>mutants with the whole Celestial/Eternal connection are treated like celebs, while the ugly Deviants are ostracized, so opinions are all over the map>Xavier basically tries to create a safe space for the unlucky ones and try and mold the lucky ones into what he wants>Magnus rolls around all the big circles and has his eyes on Total Normalfag Death with his House Of M reigning everything>Nightcrawler is a mutant and a half-demon, so he's recruited by magic-adjacent groups before Xavier gets to himHonestly, most of the X-Men keep their backstories and whatnot. It's all too convoluted for me to try and reinvent the entire history. The bullet points are>Apocalypse will eventually come to test all his "children">Sinister is trying to get to the Eternals and Celestials>Weapon X and the whole lore with Fantomex and the City remain as is>Jean is one of the many Avatars of the Phoenix across all the various worlds it chooses>Scott's an only child, Havok's a clone created by Sinister and presented as a long-lost brother, Vulcan keeps his originSummers mutant genes are just so strong they've coveted.>no Decimation as mutants are too few>public adores some, hates others, everyone hopes they win the lottery and their kid comes out a god, while Deviants are shunnedThat's it for the X-Men desu. I just wanted to rework the X-Gene, the rest's too much for to get into now.
>>150355857Make Moon Knight an Irish-in-denial, and I'd lap it all up.
>>150360210Some last random stuff I want to share.>Ultron comes into being from Stark and Pym working together and is the worst of both of them>I liked the idea of UltVision being the Herald of Galactus, so I'd keep him as a Herald here too, this time being a sort of artificially created person akin to Adam Warlock, but sort of a synth as well, with Galactus tech; he'd be the one thing Galactus is actually fond of next to Norrin who comes in later and remains the same as the 616>Namor is now infatuated with Crystal and it's a whole doomed romance thing what with her being Eternal and him being Atlantean>the Hellfire Club is the same but more connected; Emma breaks off it, sets up her own school, gets with Stark and they become a powercouple>Doom courts Wanda and Pietro is one of Kang's main enemies, with Pietro courting a revamped Destiny (quasi-time manipulator and pre-cog)>Jott is canon, Logan sexes Mystique 24/7>time travel creates branched timelines and is useless, with Kang being one of the few beings who can actually impact his own timeline, but those moments are rare and far between>throughout his life he's splintered to multiple people within the same timeline so he's constantly fighting himself>he doesn't move forward from his point because he considers himself the dawn of a new age, so he's constantly fidgeting with the past and trying to access the very earliest stages of it so that he can remake his future>Krakoa is eventually formed as a nation state of the biggest of the big not just mutants, and it's a very tense situation with them being seen as the new masters but it implodes due to internal affairs>Franklin's powerful but not retardedly so and there's no Galactus connection nonsense; he's male Wanda with no magic ability, and Valeria's just smart>Illuminati are formed but the team's bigger, as it's all the big players keeping the peace That's what I have now. I might think of others later. Ask if you want to know something particular.
>>150328148Ok, essentially hard reset. Young high school Spider-Man, young X-Men, older FF (the original superheroes in this universe, now running the Future Foundation). Cap is a Gulf War II veteran. Thor's powers are there but he's a schizo homeless guy. Hulk is an urban legend like the 70s show. No magic or cosmic stuff, at least in the beginning.
>>150330673It will happen for real one day. Anna Maria will become important again, that's for sure.
>>150356706Worse. Her arms have hands
>>150328148Either the mutants wear masks, the story takes place in the 20th century or it's an alternate universe where there was no 9/11 or other major terrorist attack to give the rogue coverts an excuse to enact their Big Brother surveillance state. Anyone less covered than Deadpool isn't going to be able to keep a secret identity (and therefore not get involuntarily recruited by the government) in the age of facial recognition.
>>150328148I'm already planning my Marvel universe. In one of the stories, instead of Peter, the original Spider-Man is Miles, and he has a child with Gwen. Peter takes on the mantle of Spider-Man after Miles dies.
Superia is in this
Venom is pure uncanny valley
>>150350367Those fan headcanons became an accepted canon thing in the early 70s.
>>150356437Also Mayday wants to be Spider-girl. But she’s only 4 so Peter is like “Absolutely not”
>>150328148Much more stuff in space and that's it
>>150362058would that make a loli venom pure un-cunny valley?
>>150364464Heh. Mayhaps.
>>150356437>>150356535>>150356558>>150356618X-Men. Generally a mutant resistance against trafficking.>Wolverine. Bone claws. Champion of a mutant fight club run by the Hellfire Club, mutant socialites. Has a lot of learned helplessness and rarely speaks up. Jean Grey gives him the little push he needed to break free. Becomes sort of a mutant Spartacus.>Jean Grey. Young telepath who's still learning. Has a fear of being contained. The Phoenix is not a space bird, but rather a representation of all of her sealed psychic power. >Cyclops. Has a missing eye because it was plucked out when he spoke out of turn. Mostly blind due to his vision powers fucking with him. Jean uses her powers to let him share her vision.>Iceman. Has the power to remove heat from objects. Looking for his lost love, a mutant with heat powers. Gay-ish, but it's more that he can't remember what his love looked like due to his psychic lobotomy and trauma>Storm is a young girl in Africa who's drawn the ire of warlords because her ability to create rain and help farmers threatens their power>Scarlet Witch's powers are slowly turning her into an eldritch horror. Currently in a government blacksite, hoping nobody finds her. Uses "The Vision" AKA her tulpa, to interact without driving people mad.>Professor X is a kindly old bookstore owner who uses his vast psychic abilities to coordinate the mutant resistance group from vast distances. >Magneto is a survivor of the "Genosha Massacre." Back in the 80s. An entire hidden mutant city slaughtered because they were sitting on top of natural Adamantium deposits. His rage is more towards how mutants weren't even considered people and therefore weren't even allowed the dignity of being considered genocide victimsContinued:
>>150365118>Hellfire Club are incredibly powerful mutant socialites. They traffic mutants for fight clubs, labor, sexual slavery, you name it. Emma Frost is the supposed strongest mutant alive, and has a massive god complex along with a desire for the total domination of everyone she considers beneath her (Read: All mutantkind)>Sabretooth is the Club's best operative. He is Weapon X. Sadistic as fuck and sees Wolverine as a new toy>Apocalypse is a new member of the club, woken from his 4000 year nap. Utterly disinterested in everything and also a cannibal who can take mutant abilities by consuming flesh.>Sentinels. Robotic worms that can combine into any form they chooseAnd finally:>Quicksilver. The ACTUAL strongest mutant alive. No Flash-tier bullshit, just the ability to move very fast is more than enough for him to curbstomp everyone. Has a mythical folk hero quality. If Scarlet Witch is the eldritch unknown, he's like the North Wind. The Rusalki. The Anemoi. He goes by many names, but he is the wind that walks.
Pedro Parker is the masked mexican wrestler "Hombre Arana", he never learned about responsibility and shit and is a villain
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>>150365686Cute
>>150365811And funny too.
>>150366010Teeny
>>150354840Moon Knight is like if The Maxx fused with Absolute Batman. He's absolutely fucking insane
>>150328148All the women have D-cups at the very least and their love interests are normal joes who hang out in comic stores. They are also tall enough that no man is ever above their chest level.Also X-Men kill their enemies and don't rub elbows with people who are known as genocidal maniacs.
>>150366880All the women have small boobs and are as loli-like as possible because fuck you that's why.
>>150364464That segue wasn't smooth at all anon. I think you're just into little girls.
>>150328148>>150331096I would put the Mutants in an alternate universe where they are the only superbeings around and mutation is the only way to get superpowers. Also, it's a world-wide phenomenon since say the late 30s and there are more every year. The more people a country has in it, the more mutants there's likely to be born. Mutants don't see themselves as a separate race, like everyone else they are products of the nations and cultures they were brought up in and can be just as patriotic or otherwise as the next person. This massively effects world politics, the Cold War, decolonization and the US civil rights movement. In consequence, the latter two events might be a lot more violent and politically radical. Stalin's reign of terror may be ended rather abruptly. The space race will be very interesting. And there's going to be more than a few people out there who want to conquer the entire world because they sincerely believe that they can run it better, and if they actually use their superpowers to make life better for those under their sway (or just go lol mind control) they will have a lot of non-powered human cannon fodder.
Dumb universe I came up with based on some schizo dreams I had.>The universe is rather mundane at first glance, no advanced technology like iron suits or mechanical arms, normal people don't believe aliens or magic exist.>Heroes that do exist are either supernatural in nature, or street level (e.g, Dr Strange, Blade, Punisher, Moon Knight, etc)>The X-gene doesn't exist so most X-Men characters are living normal lives, Juggernaut and Nightcrawler are an exception (Azazel is his actual dad in this universe)>Only Active Avengers are Hawkeye and Thor>OriginA variant of Doctor Doom with the Beyonders power believed the universe itself was flawed and created a new universe to rule over. Dr Doom would rule over early humans, granting them knowledge for their loyalty. He'd speak to a few people to convince them to kill other societies for not worshipping him. He ruled over them like a god before Shuma Gorath somehow broke into his earth and began consuming people. Doom questioned how a lowly demon could end up in his realm, while Shuma Gorath taunted him, calling him mortal failing to play god. The two would fight but Doom would accidently break the barrier separating Shuma Gorath's dimension, allowing him to gain full power. Their fight lasted eons, planets and vast cosmos would be destroyed. Doom would end up destroying Shuma Gorath, its corpse blowing up a planet before crashing into earth. Doom already corrupted by Shuma Gorath decided to use the last of his power to trap himself in the center of the universe where Shuma Gorath currently sleeps. The original corpse split into multiple parts and crashed into different parts of earth, it'd decay into a strange acid which ate into the earth, forming strange holes. Anyone who goes down the hole can unlock and increase their sorcery potential but going too deep can corrupt and transfigure you.
>>150370094>Spider-manPeter Parker in this iteration would grow up with his sister Teresa Parker, the two of them being close. When He was around 12, the two of them had gotten into an argument which caused her to run away from home. She was never found again and the police declared her dead. Peter would blame himself for many years and fall into a depression, until he'd find clues that there was foul play involved. While doing his own investigating he found out that a cult led by Mysterio was behind this. He'd get his powers from exploring their hideout and getting attacked by a half spider half man abomination that was created by Shuma Gorath's essence. The creature would corrupt him. An experienced Dr Strange would save him and act as a mentor, only teaching him basic sorcery to help maintain his human form. He starts off a lot weaker than 616 spiderman but gets stronger over time as he learns to better control his spider form. He has the added ability of infusing his webs with energy to cut through even ghosts. The cult would catch on that somebody was investigate them and kill Ben Parker, thinking he was the perpetrator.>Dr StrangeMostly the same as 616 Dr strange except he initially had brotherly relationship with Baron Mordo before he was corrupted by Dormmamu. Dormmamu was less concerned with taking over the physical plane and was stealing innocent souls to satisfy Shuma Gorath's hunger so it doesn't wake up and break out of its prison and possibly threaten his dimension. Dr Strange by this point had absorbed Dormammus powers after being forced to kill Baron Mordo.>Moon KnightMoon Knight in this version has a better relationship with Khonshu and gets resurrected every full moon. He meets with spiderman early on and they have disagreements about their different styles of justice, they'd end up acting like brothers.
>>150365686The Power Pack in my universe got their powers from their dad's device. Apparently the Skrull want it.
>>150336830Gay ass ideasThe fact that you all focus so much on the realtionship/romance stuff makes me wonder how many faggots post here
>>150371622Relationships being fucked is a major problem with Marvel. Too many bitter divorced guys taking it out on fictional characters.
>>150371791Yeah, just wanting to enjoy a lot of characters in their natural default state is virtually impossible in a lot of cases because of how much effort Marvel put into ruining all the classic marriages and relationships, and trying to make characters unlikeable.
>>150371089>Black TarantulaThe initial arch-nemesis of spiderman, being the person Mysterio sent to kill Uncle Ben. Born in The Hand clan, he was trained to be their greatest warrior. Mysterio pays him enough to ensure prosperity for his clan and he uses that to justify the atrocities he commits.>MysterioAn enigmatic cult leader of an unnamed cult, Spider-man discovers his goal is to eliminate all culture and create a single religion under his control. He larps as a prophet that appeals to multiple religions. Using illusions and fund technology to affect locust behavior, he comes up with prophets based on religious texts before staging them for the world to see. He convinces followers to do his bidding, killing or kidnapping people of other religions, political figures or others he considers undesirable. Kidnapped people are used as test subjects for the hole of Shuma Gorath, believing that they hold the answer for true enlightnment. Similar to Khonshu, Loki lives in Mysterios head.>DaredevilSimilar to his 616 counterpart but he helps Spiderman develop his spider-sense and acts as another mentor. He ends up taking over The Hand after Black Tarantulas death.>TaskmasterTaskmaster in this verse is one of the most powerful sorcerers despite his low sorcery potential, due to being able to learn any technique he sees. He beats Daredevil and Iron Fist before stalling Dr Strange for a bit.
>>150356618SHIT I forgot>Kingpin is a former Mafia boss. Turns out the mafia doesn't have as much power as it used to, so now he's just running a racket in Hell's Kitchen.>Mysterio is a SFX artist who vanished and came back wearing an astronaut costume and turning everything around him into fucking Silent Hill
>>150371622You only think that because that other anon wanted to erase bad decisions made from Quesada era onwards (and a few before Quesada, that became lynchpins of certain people during Quesada)He was correct to want to get rid of those, nothing of value would be lost
>>150354840And yes, I decided to go for Frank Drebin Deadpool because I thought him being extremely oblivious is funnier than fourth wall breaks
>>150372178this mysterio design on pic rel looks so cool.
>>150344637Also, the "Iron Man" alter ego makes him feel respected. He's kinda got reverse peter pan syndrome in that he's been looked down on by everyone besides his father his whole life
>>150328148No crossovers unless really necessary. Every related IP is segregated into their own secluded corner. Strict power level policing. If a character can't be beaten by brute force, find a way around it. Continuity matters. If a plot hole exists, immediately plug it with a no-prize.
>>150375907What's a no-prize?
JFC who haven't I done at this rate?
>>150376576I've done Iron Man Stane Pepper Howard Happy Hogan AIM Modok Vibro/Shockwave/Shocker Titanium Man Killer Shrike Mandarin Hypnotia Count Nefaria Black Knight Firepower Force Guardsmen Blizzard Crimson Dynamo Endo-Sym stuff Mauler Firebrand Melter Whiplash Technovore/Jarvis Living Laser Detroit Steel Iron Rangers Demolisher Madame Masque Spymaster Sunturion Udarnik Gargantus Ghost FRIDAY Fing Fang Foom Night Phantom Termite Midas Arno Stark Extremis Virus Dread Knight Crimson Cowl Atom Smasher Spider-Man MJ Mayday Green Goblin/Gwen Stacy/Hobgoblin Venom Carnage Electro Kraven Rhino Vulture Mysterio Prowler's 1 and 2 Morlun Scorpion Doc Ock Knull Spot Kingpin Black Cat Spider-Slayer Sandman Dylan Brock Hulk Abomination Flux She-Hulk Captain America Winter Soldier Black Widow Hawkeye Nicolle Fury Red Skull Superia X-Men Wolverine Jean Grey Cyclops Storm Professor X Iceman Cable Magneto Quicksilver Scarlet Witch Hellfire Club Emma Frost Sabretooth Apocalypse Fantastic 4 Reed Richards Sue Storm Johnny Storm Ben Grimm HERBIE Franklin and Valeria Richards Doctor Doom The Inhumans Black Bolt Medusa Kamala Khan Deadpool Vision Flexo Nova Xandarians Thor Loki Odin Asgard as a whole Moon Knight Luke Cage Ant Man and the Wasp Iron Fist Shang Chi Juggernaut Dr Strange Gomora Star Lord Rocket Racoon Groot Drax Nebula Captain Marvel Supreme Intelligence/Kree Silver Surfer Galactus Mephisto Galacta Namor Thanos Ultron Sentry Black Panther Squirrel Girl Punisher Power Pack Skrull Daredevil
>>150328148Spreading out the characters all over the world>spider-man and punisher in toyko>ghost rider and hulk in russia>wolverine and the thing in brazilSpider-man gets his own harem>(or at least has a stable relationship that doesn't end up in heart break or cheating)semi stealing from >>150356558black cat is a half furry>shes human during the day and takes place as felica hardy but at night turns into a kemono
>>150376921Cont.Peter never takes off the symbiote>he begins to separate himself more and more from his superhero friends, months go by without anyone seeing himthe next time someone does see him, it's human torch and he sees a disheveled spider-man about to throw a mugger off the roof, he tries to stop him but spider-man strikes him and they end up brawling.other heroes find out and he becomes a threat, avengers get involved
>>150328148I had a general outline for a solo Spider-Man series.
Jocasta is Ultron’s clone who decided to become a woman
>>150371408>go from fighting the Snarks (evil green alien that steal powers) to fighting Skrulls (evil green alien that steal powers)
>>150328148Make a world where mutants and humans cooperate without Dr. Doom being global dictator. Like maybe there's an interstellar alien armada that normal people hate more.
>>150377366Snarks was the name they came up with for the Skrull because they misheard the name
>>150376921>Spreading out the characters all over the worldgod yes>Spider-man gets his own haremgod no
>>150376921What do you think of the idea of Black Cat as a literal cat turned into a human?
>>150376921So like her TAS version but activating the super soldier serum turns her into a mutate like Tigra?
>>150341280>>I've already thought that if I ever get to make my own superhero universe, that's going to be how it will be writtenIsn't that just Astro City?
>>150380142Fetish idea.
Emma Frost should have a son.
>>150383500Who is the father?
>>150383557That is the thing. Nobody knows. Not even her, because she one day just disappeared. 9 months later she was found at the door of the X mansion, with a 9 months pregnant belly and a mind completely scrambled. Even after all the psychic X-Men together successfully restored her scrambled mind, they couldn't restore the last 9 months, it is as if it never happened.
>>150383629Bad. Do not do this. Bad.
>>150383629Good. Do this. Good.
>>150383672>>150383693now which one?
>>150383808Depends on what you are trying to do with Emma. In either case, you shouldn't have everyone celebrating her child while Emma is confused over what the fuck happened.
>>150328148I'd make mutants very very rare
>>150338812>>The X-Men are a commentary on the 1% instead of oppression, while the non-X-men mutants are left to fend for themselves. Also the Brotherhood and X-Men are the same entity. >>>All the avengers have a darker origin>>>Also the South won the civil war, because Mephisto helped, so now there is an United and a Confederate States of America that only recently unified.>>>The whole of Europe is now one entity, called Latveria Federation.That's some gay ass Jonathan Hickman shit.
>>150383557Peter Parker
>>150328148I'd just take the idea of the Superia Strategem/Gorgoncap idea from a previous thread and make that its own Earth in the Marvel cosmology.
>>150385100Well at least you are open about your fetishes.
>>150385110I'd rather make something that I like for a niche audience that will like it as much as I do than try and make a generic bland thing made to appease everyone and appeals to no one. Also, an alternate Earth lets the idea of Gorgoncap breathe and actually go somewhere interesting. It existing alone introduces a fresh new antagonist faction (that thinks its the good guys) which has a complicated relationship to various hero teams in ways that are self evidence and ripe for exploration. It opens up new stories you can tell that are not just increasingly pale rehashes of someone else's story from 20 years ago.
>>150382341Why?
>>150385230There is a reason why neither Wolverine nor Spider-Woman are animals turned into people and the New Men got killed off.
>>150328148I'd shrink the X-Men cast down to a core fifteen, five on gold team, five on blue team, five on x-force. X-Force barely interacts with the others. Avengers will also be shrunken down to a core few. Steve as Cap, Thor, The Pyms, Iron Man and maybe a classic villain turned good. Or a new villain that turns good like Hawkeye did.All stories are either one shots or two parters. No more Part One of Twelve bullshit that's so common these days. Characters can be drawn sexy, but the stories should be fairly devoid of too much adult content. I'd try to keep like classic pulp stories instead of edgelord shit. Oh, but the Punisher is back and written how he was in the late 80s and early 90s. His book can be a bit more mature, but not much.
>>150385463I know that. But I thought "How can I make her not all the way like Catwoman?"So making her a witch's familiar made into an apprentice seemed like the right thing to do
