they don't explore the shaggy and fred dynamic enough
They would kill each other after 5 hours
>>150345814Because there's no way these two are friends. Possibly they were conceived as proxy friends through that third hip guy that got cut for the final version of the gang. They should have tweaked Shag into a track type or Fred into more of a loafer in the final draft to make up for that.
>>150346601>Possibly they were conceived as proxy friends through that third hip guy that got cut for the final version of the gangWait, what?
>>150346650
I just assume they didn't really like each other that much. Shaggy, at least to Fred, is probably just "Velma's stoner friend with the cool dog" if I had to guess. Not that they hated each other, but were on opposite ends of the friend group.
>>150346677I'm surprised they haven't done anything with this guy. At least from what I know, but he seems like a perfect secret villain or something like that.
>>150346677NoFuckingWay
Like the Venture Bros episode with the serial killers.
>>150345814>56 years>probably the only unexplored dynamic from the main castWild.I even thought that Velma series would be the first to do something with Fred and Shaggy, but it didn't.I feel like it's not that hard to have them bro bond over dumb stuff. Maybe they just want to keep Shaggy's fun dynamic strictly with Scooby.
>>150346677for good reason, way too close to fred. Third guy would have to be a sporty/mechanic kind of archetype to even stand a chance of being included
>>150345814Fred is a pretty bland character in general. Sometimes he’s hilarious but most writers just make him the nice athletic guy that unmasks the villain at the end.
>>150345814The only good thing about Shaggy and Fred is it opening up Velma and Daphne
>>150346677>3 dudes>2 chicksMath ain't add up.Don't include the dog!
>>150345814Be Cool did. Aside from the jokes it was fun seeing them act like real friends (love and banter and all that).
The 5th member was obviously pic rel
>>150346860Fred and Shaggy's friendship wasn't really highlighted in Be Cool though. The gang just had good banter all around.
>>150346815Fred is the preppy guy, Shaggy is the chill guy, the third guy would be the hip guy who gets along with everyone and knows where all the parties are to drag all of his friends to. He makes a lot of sense, especially as social glue to explain all these different people being in one friend group, but they probably thought that five was already a crowd + Scoob. Honestly, they should have given Daphne his role. She's already a friendly popular girl who gets along with everyone, they should have made her more gregarious and socially connected.
>>150346856I'm going to guess that it's probably even on purpose and the third guy was designed to be a casanova that would find a new cute girl to hit on each episode.
>>150347287Ah I imagined third guy as the outgoing sportster primarily since hip (at least as envisioned there) is a little too visually similar to Fred.Totally agree on Daphne though and it's boggling how she's not queen bee>>150347307The possibility of hitting on the new hottie who ends up the villain could be neat
>>150347353What sense would it make for a queen bee type to drive around the country in a cramped van solving mysteries with a bunch of nerds? At most, you can have her as a spoiled rich girl who hangs out with the peasants because they're her friends like in A Pup Named Scooby-Doo. I guess you could have tacked a queen bee attitude on top of that which would be all for show and she would be a tsundere. But that was too advanced for the time.
>>150347495>What sense would it make for a queen bee type to drive around the country in a cramped van solving mysteries with a bunch of nerds?Isn't this what Daphne is except that she is genuinely nice? I suspect nowadays a popular, hot girl who is chill with no hangups played straight is too wholesome for our cynical ironic humor times. Every member of the gang are weirdos anyway for going around creepy areas and solving mysteries for they all do well together.
>>150346677I find it funny how Takamoto positioned the abandoned cast member to the side, as if he instinctually knew Scooby-Doo wouldn't need such a character.
>>150347287shaggy and scooby are comedic relieffred is there to get the girlvelma is there to actually solve the mysteries, so that fred can take the creditALSO - fred's the white guy, so he's the one who has the money to pay for the gas and the van.sure, shaggy is white but funny white dudes are poor, and pretty much useless, and worse, they are spastics nerds or the like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-s0YU73_M
>>150347983Like zoinks, says the guy wearing an ascot
>>150348047>sampling the What's New theme Straight FIRE
>>150345814You think these two ever explored each other's bodies?
>>150345814They’re bros from childhood, the whole gang is like that.
>>150347983Daphne is the rich one, Fred is the guy that makes sure that the villain gets caught since he makes the traps. Shaggy and Scooby are there to act as both bait and keep the villain distracted while the rest of the gang get shit done.
>>150349668And Velma?
>>150346677I wonder what his role would've been in the gang? Did he even have a name or was he nothing more than an initial concept?
>>150346601>They should have tweaked Shag into a track typeShaggy is a gymnasthttps://youtu.be/vDHv1Wblib4?si=M7DDEWgT9Tyhax34
>>150349753she's still the one that solves the mysteries.i forgot that fred made the traps and didn't know or didn't remember or never watched any episode that claimed fred has no cash and lived off some white chick, but that also very SWM, so otherwise my analysis is on the money
>>150349668Scooby can also sniff things out Buts its not used much
>>150345814anyone else notice that pretty much none of the other Hanna-Barbera "Mystery Solving Teens" shows ever include a proper Velma analogue in their cast, like they all have a Scooby equivalent and almost always a Shaggy equivalent, and pretty much always a Daphne(indeed sometimes multiple Daphnes) and more often then not a Fred as well, but Velma is basically never replicated, closest you might get is the Daphne expy(especially if its one of the shows with multiple Daphnes like Josie and The Pussycats or Captain Caveman & The Teen Angels) being the group's "smart one"basically Velma is overall probably the singular most unique thing about Scooby-Doo in the genre it spawned
>>150345814Because female writers would just make them gay.It is scientifically proven that when a female sees two males hanging out, her brain goes berserk and she starts hallucinating the two men having gay butt sex.
>>150349825Just look at him, he's a hip kid. The socially popular type that just wants to have a good time.>>150349899Shaggy is agile and dexterous, that doesn't make him a sportsman of any type unless he does the sport.
>>150345814I think What's New Scooby Doo had Fred and Shaggy living together
>>150346677insane ass lore drop
>>150349938In the original series the solver was Fred and Velma coming to consensus or Velma analyzing the final clue the gang needs to solve the case. The funniest is when Fred, Velma, AND Daphne all understand the mystery while Shaggy and Scooby are still clueless.
>>150350278Can't replicate perfection
>>150345814>they don't explore the shaggy and fred dynamic enoughwe already have all the information we need
>>150346677Wow. You learn something new every day. I can't believe I never heard about this.
>>150346815>>150349825Well, considering the Scooby Doo gang was based on Dobie Gillis, the third dude was likely supposed to be based on Chatsworth, a spoiled rich kid who'd compete with Dobie/Fred.Pic related are the inspirations for Fred, Shaggy, and the rich dude.
>>150346677>>150352856>>150352418This thread is blowing my mind man.
>>150346677Holy shit
>>150349938It’s not that he doesn’t have money, it’s just that that is Daphne’s main thing.
>>150346601Daphne is Shaggy's cousin, and Fred is her boyfriend. that's their relation. They're from a small town, so it means they end up being acquaintances by proxy
>>150345814true, true
>>150346677So the mystery got solved..
>>150355645that's easy, the scooby gang has 5 members but you subconsciously don't count scooby himself because he's not human
>>150350409I’ll be honest, I don’t like gay men stuff as much as I like gay woman stuff. Broken woman moment.
>>150349668Extended lore has shaggy being old money from the south, he is just extremely chill.Shaggy family is actually loaded.
>>150355645Scrappy
>>150350278The multiple Daphne is because some were singers, it wasn't uncommon for multiple shaggies.For example jabberjaw
>>150355645Only now I noticed the emptiness.
>>150346677I wish we knew his name. Too bad we only found out now after both Spears and Ruby died
>>150346677It's like they combined Shaggy and Fred into one person.
>>150356588>Fusion dance>Total Power Level is lower than both separate
>>150345814What do they have in common?That they're nice to each other?
>>150357569that they travel around america in a van and catch ghosts
>>150346677It seems Velma was added later to the bunch, probably after removing third guy. Everyone is connected to take a group picture, Velma is totally out and doesnt even interact with Scooby
>>150345814https://youtu.be/p-xQQfImnQw?t=1354
>>150346601I feel like they would be and to joke around about random crap. Kind of like when Ghandi and JFK hung out in Clone High
>>150346815>>150347353Looks like Anon has it right. It sounds like the cut character was originally named Mike. The original lineup was based on The Archie Show, so the analogues were:> Fred - Archie> Shaggy - Jughead> Daphne - Veronica> Velma - Betty> Mike - ReggieBased on that, Mike/Reggie would have been Fred's outgoing, sarcastic frenemy who played sports and tried to date as many women as possible whereas Fred would've been more of an all around popular Preppy boy. Also, originally Shaggy was Velma's brother. Shaggy and Free make a lot of sense when you think of them as analogous to Archie & Jughead.
>>150346677this is crazy
>>150346677>>150356559Scoobypedia has this to say:>Their initial concept bore the title Mysteries Five, and featured five teens (Geoff, Mike, Kelly, Linda, and Linda's brother "W.W.") and their dog, Too Much.>Geoff and Mike had merged into one character called “Ronnie”, Kelly was renamed to "Daphne", Linda was now called "Velma", and "Shaggy" (formerly "W.W.") was no longer her brother.>"Ronnie” became “Fred”So I guess he was either Geoff or Mike.
>>150346677i'd bet 50 dollars if fred was the one that was cut out and the other guy was kept, it would have been a more interesting show depending on the other guy (Mike's?) personality
lemmen guess make them gay haha lemme guess two guys we have to make them gay lol so i think you want to make them gay that'd be pretty brave right?
>>150355709The original series takes place in the South based on several of the buildings and people they meet.
>>150352856Well thanks for introducing me to something else I never knew existed.
>>150352856>chad maximus on the left>the guy at the party you don't trust around open drinks on the right>a fucking elf in the middleThis image blows my mind. How the hell did these people even know each other?
>>150346881You are given a time machine and sent back to work for HB in 1979. How do you prevent scrappy from being hated by future generations?
>>150359407they met at a secret society cult meeting
>>150355645>>150346677https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFs1pd6kUCs>they don't know
>>150347983Fred and Velma seem the most invested in actually solving mysteries, velma investigative and fred practical. Shaggy and Daphne are just there to hang out and Shaggy brought his talking dog.
>>150346677>>150352856That clears the mystery immediately, so Richie Rich would go with Fred and Daphne when the gang splits up and try to ntr her from Fred, telling Daphne he will protect her buy coming off as a coward when they meet the ghost, while Velma would go with Shag and Scoob and solve the mystery, then leading the villain to the other part of the gang where the two big guys would catch him while trying to impress Daphne, Richie Rich obviously failing while Fred succeeds. Kinda makes sense why he was cut now: he was like a mini-antagonist frenemy in an otherwise bunch of friends, like Reggie in Archie. A character like this did make it into several Scooby clones where all his shtick is just trying to show off to snatch the pretty girl away from the handsome boy.
>>150345814They don't really have a dynamic, which I think could be their dynamic. That they just aren't on the same wavelength. Not a joke you could probably play too often but every now and then in a show it could be a fun pairing up when the gang splits up.
>>150347287>they should have given Daphne his roleDidn't they already sort of do that? Seemed like a decent amount of the animated movies had Daphne knowing a girl or having family where the gang were going to hook them up.
>>150352856So he'd be someone who keeps trying to solve the mysteries but probably fails so as to keep Fred and Velma valuable to the team? Like a Scrappy but who you're supposed to laugh at when he fails?
>>150359407Sometimes you just meet people in unlikely places. A friend knows a friend and he's now your friend too if you meet up enough. Even if the original guy who introduced you ends up no longer being around.
>>150346696>>150352856Damn, this sounds interesting. I wonder why no iteration never incorporated this cut character as a sort of rival/temporary member of the gang. It sounds like a neat enough idea albiet cliched somewhat. A wealthy kid that sees himself superior. Probably has a past with Fred trying to sweep Daphne away from him.
>>150351182>that doesn't make him a sportsman of any type unless he does the sport.He is. It's canon that Shaggy was a track-and-field athlete and gymnist.
I actually learned something new and interesting in this thread. cool :)
>>150359384I do miss the days when TV had a lot less channels and ran an assload of reruns as well as new shows.
Been binging Be Cool and it's actually really good. I especially like how they're basically reusing classic ghosts from the initial series.The only issue is the formula of an episode becomes obvious with the binging but that's not that big a problem since I've binged Phineas and Ferb but at least that show changes things up a ton.A lot of surprisingly good set prices and action too.
>>150357703Good point. She does seem disconnected from the rest.
>>150350278Shaggy & Scoob were the stars. So always needed.Daphne is eye candy.Fred was pretty bland straight man and could incorporate Velma's role.If you are trying to save money, Velma/Fred are the first to be tinkered with.
>>150347983Rewatchung the original, Fred solves the mysteries as much as Velma.I hate this slander that Velma has ti be the sole brain of the group JUST because she wear glasses.
13 Ghosts is the best Scooby series desu. The lack of the original gang as a whole is a shame but its also where Scrappy is actually a decent character and Daphne is more fleshed out. Also Vincent Van Ghoul and Flim Flam were great. And the best opening too.https://youtu.be/MRV5raXCDkA
>>150360606I mean, it gets two letter grade bumps because it has Vincent price
>>150347983>>150349668the van is actually shaggy's
>>150359665Sometimes the frenemy was an alpha bitch.
>>150359431Keep him from displacing Fred, Velma and Daphne
>>150358547>Fred - Archie>Velma - BettyNow I'm angry that these two haven't had a romance yet.I mean, the popular guy and the nerdy girl? It writes itself!, booth and brennan, scully and mulder.
>>150360914They had a moment in the live action movie. Which kinda grew on me over the years.
>>150352418Hhhot.
>>150345814>they don't explore the shaggy and fred dynamic enoughFred, for the most part, doesn't have enough to bounce off from. You can add stuff but it really wont stick.
>>150360425i'm going through it myself right now and its actually great. some episodes are very obviously weaker than others but when you get an episode where they are firing on all cylinders (the crystal cavern, mummy, clown episodes) its an excellent funny ass watch
>>150360425I was originally put off by the art style but yeah it turned out to be super underrated, I love how unhinged everyone is.
>>150360914I'm not really big on shipping but Fred/Velma and Shaggy/Daphne always made more sense to me, probably a result of seeing The New Scooby and Scrappy Doo Show as a kid and just presuming that's what happened.>>150360425>>150361490I keep forgetting Be Cool exists, might have to give it a watch.
>>150357703>>150360469Naw, Velma was always there from the start. You can see her in this pre-Scooby sketch along with the third guy. I think she just looks disconnected because of Scooby having to be next to Shaggy
>>150360606Thew thing about Scrappy is he really flips in quality depending on the series. For a while he cannibalized other qualities of the gang, absorbing all of Fred and Velma's skills. And then they weren't needed.
>>150361712Yeah I think Fred and Velma were absent for like, fifteen years. Wild to think about.
It still blows my mind that the last original piece of music KISS did together was a song for Scooby-Doo.https://youtu.be/at3506DSugg
>>150358547Shaggy and Jughead also have such horrendous first names that they only go by nicknames.
>>150346677>>150355645>>150358663>Geoff/Mike's "death" still lingers in the consciousness of the Mystery Inc. that his presence is felt even years after he is gone>like a ghost
>>150346677
I prefer my Daphne to be a little unhinged. https://youtu.be/rKfe-B_Z9LM
>>150361577I wonder if anyone will ever dig up concept art of the supposed younger brother Penelope Pitstop was to have in her own show.Concept art of "Stop that Pigeon!", pre-Dastardly and Muttley, has come out but nothing much on that.
>>150358547The line up was actually based on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, though Dobie may have been inspired by Archie>Fred - Dobie>Shaggy - Maynard>Daphne - Thalia>Velma - Zelda>Mike - Milton or his replacement ChatsworthIt's extremely obvious when you look at Maynard, Dobie's best friend, that Shaggy is a near 1-1 clone even down to the goatee>>150360914>>150361572The funny thing is Dobie marrying Zelda is canon in the Dobie Gillis universe, so Fred and Velma makes some sense
>>150346677Speaking of concept art, there's a version of this one where Velma didn't have glasses. You can even see where they cut out the third guy next to Fred and stuck on a different sheet of paper.
>>150352856It's hard to believe that's the same actor as Gilligan. >>150359407>How the hell did these people even know each other?>>150359473>secret society cultDobie was only cool in his mind and pretty much really only had a lot of coolness attached to him after he became friends with Maynard, who was his one constant, other than the girl in love, Zelda, that he didn't want, and his parents.>>150359724yep
>>150362078Just looks like someone cummed on the paper and it got dried up
>>150362078Wonder if his color design is anywhere or got thrown away.This is pretty much the style of those presentation boards they used for the Perils of Penelope Pitstop and some other shows of the time.
>>150362149That drawing had very sensual curves.
>>150362194Probably a blonde with reddish clothes.
>>150362078its underrated how well color blocked/coded the mystery gang is. fucking excellent use of color
>>150346677this feels eerie, it's as if he was buried by the earth and his existence was removed from the universe
>>150362303The gang promised they would never speak of him, to the point they can't remember his name. Probably not that important anyway.
>>150361916>that Shaggy is a near 1-1 clone even down to the goatseThe internet has ruined me
>>150362078Apologies to the Velma fans but I think black hair no glasses Velma actually looks a lot better than her final design.
>>150362194Based on the other scan, I assume he was already colored in before getting cut. A good chunk of him should still be under the paper, we just need someone with access to the image who's willing to shine a light through it
>>150362394>goatseYou mean Soatse: Shaggy opens ass to show everyone
>>150362426W
>>150360914I refuse to believe that Fred hasn't thought about sleeping with Velma at least once.Same with Velma, Fred has the body of Hercules.
>>150346677>>150362078>>150361808Drawfags, please.
>>150350278It's the reason the Scooby Gang has persisted so long. Nobody's clamoring for a revamp of Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels.
>>150346677First instance I've ever seen of a "He was always there" character type that isn't made up by zoomers. Hope this gets the attention it deserves. I want to see more of this guy
>>150358547>Shaggy was Velma's brotherMakes that ship fucking weird now
>>150362303>>150362515>Gang, I've been right beside you all along. You can feel something missing. Just come and find me...Truly the final mystery
>>150362715Yeah, it looks like the process of making Scooby was very multilayered.Mike was the cut guy, and Geoff became Ronnie became Fred.
>>150362715That would actually make a cool plot for a future movie. What happened to him? Who made the rest of the gang forget?
>>150362665You think he'd have dark brown/black hair like that early Velma or the scribbly guy in the sketch, to complete the hair color spectrum?
>>150362811he died and became the funky phantom
>>150362515the real funky phantom
>>150362811Gumball already did this with The Void.
>>150346601Fred is an all-American type boy that is friendly and Shaggy is chill. To some extent both just get along with anyone.
>>150363011What the fuck is Gumball?
What exactly is it about the characters/dynamics of the gang that has led to Scooby-Doo enduring for so long? Like they clearly must has tapped into something given how many Scooby-Doo incarnations there have been built off the back of the original and the various attempts by Hanna-Barbera to recreate the premise and characters just in slightly different versions for other shows.
>>150363099they're just blank enough canvases that each iteration feels slightly different. also the format is evergreen and endlessly riffable
>>150346677What the fuck
>>150362078SEX ON MY GOODNESS VELMA IS SO SEX HERE
>>150362874Considering that he was merged with Fred, I think he originally was fair haired, but I think that he should be given proto Velma's hair color to complete the singing chairs.
>>150345814I think one of the closet recognitions of this comes from the 2002 film with>Fred: Okay. Daphne, exit through the entrance. Velma and I will enter through the exit there. And Shaggy and Scooby... ...do whatever you guys do.
>>150363054They're completely different in their core personalities: Fred is a reckless go-getter and Shag is a cautious slacker.
Really rusty but tried tracing Mike. Anyone who wants to give another pass and color him, let's see what can be made.
>>150363059What my balls look like when they're sore
>>15036397320 billion hours in paint
>>150363099You have> Young characters that fit a personality slot>Hot girl that can be used as an eyecandy for boys>Monster of the week formula>Cool musicIt is a really profitable format that leds to every possible story. The characters not having deep personality traits allows other writers to be creative.
>>150363973Suggestion: negative Fred.Raven haired to Fred's blond.Black jacket to Fred's white sweater.Maybe a yellow undershirt, but not a bright yellow, more like a saffron or gold.Purple tie/cravat to Fred's orange ascot.Not sure about the pants and shoes. A yellow shirt and striped pants seems too much.So either white pants with purple stripes and black shoes or white pants with grey stripes and purple shoes.>>150364016This is weirdly close yet also very far from what I'm imagining.
>>150364144>This is weirdly close yet also very far from what I'm imagining.My logic was you 1) need to bounce it off as anti-Fred as you get at (to some extent he also matches though not exactly Daphne with purple, and Shaggy and Velma with Red); 2) work with what the character was seemingly going to be used for; 3) go with the rather garish late-1960s/early-1970s fashion that sort of character would go with; 4) actually make it look distinct yet relatively simple for a cartoon character of this era and in general. The only thing that stands out really is I clearly made him anything from 'very tanned', Latino, brown or black for what was part shitpost part quick earnest effort as to distinguish him from Fred even more. You can easily make him white and I think the design basically works, more a whim he is brown and in the alternate timeline let us just go with them trying to be inclusive.
>>150363973zoinks
>>150362698As an aside I had my mind blown relatively recently learning that Captain Caveman was in the Flintstone babies cartoon
>>150359692That's basically the joke of that scene
>>150364016I think the pants would have to be lighter colored, to contrast better
>>150363973>>150364407>>150364016He lacks the timeless look like the rest of the gang. He's so deliberately late 60s.
>>150364694Fred and Daphne are VERY late 60s. only Shaggy and Velma could be found as such in every decade.
>>150364694you can't have a timeless look with vertical striped pants
>>150364750Why was she the only one who showed up from the other gang members
>>150346677Is it also worth noting that like every group of teenager in the late 60s the gang were also conceived as a band?
>>150359407Small town America forced people to make friends or at least acquaintances with others through daily interaction just because of the limited pool of residents. You had to find things in common with people as opposed to bigger city's or today's internet culture which allows a person to join a scene and ignore everyone else in their immediate surroundings.
>>150364661Maybe you give him white bellbottoms with the stripes in some color, but then maybe that'd be too evocative of Battle of the Planets.
>>150364739>Fred and Daphne are VERY late 60s.True, they're usually the first characters to get an outfit change when it happens. I think it works better for them due to simpler colors.
>>150345814They had sex and regreted it
This thread makes me wanna watch a Scooby-Doo film this weekend. What's a good one? Direct-to-DVD included in that bucket.
>>150364916The one where he fucks a chihuahua
>>150364947Is this the same one where Daphne lusts after some Brazilian?
>>150346677What would his role on the team be?
>>150365077The snobby rich kid who'd always try to one up Fred, before eventually failing in a spectacularly goofy situation
>>150365077making stupid theories that are always debunked by the others.
>>150365077kek isn't this the trace of Jerome K Moore's art that has Takamoto's signature applied that would fool tumblr people so much?
>>150364916The best ones are Zombie Island and Witch's GhostBut I tend to save those for October because of the comfy Autumn vibeThe Gunn live action movies hold up surprisingly well all things considered
They fuck female dogs
>>150346677I swear i've seen a similar design in another Hanna-Barbera cartoon, probably from the 70s
>>150364982The chihuahua is from the Mexico movie. I don't think Daphne lusts after anyone in that one.
>>150365367Van Partible claims he was reused in another cartoon>he was literally taken out of the lineup, only to have his design recycled in another showAnyone want to watch every 1969-1979 cartoon to see if he shows up?
>>150365469>Anyone want to watch every 1969-1979 cartoon to see if he shows up?That sounds worse than hell
>>150363370What a thing to say considering Shag and Scoob are always the ones who loop the villain for 5 gens.>>150365335They have a great cast. Wish they went a little more adult with it though, and I'm not talking about more fart jokes, I mean make it actually scary. The "mature" movie was literally less scary than most episodes of the OS. And maybe some more fanservice, although Velma and Daphne looked great already.
>>150365469>>150365501I disagree. Almost all of the Scooby clones were at the very least somewhat comfy, if not to the same degree. A copy of a winning formula is at least OK. And watching just an episode is especially fun because you figure out which character has what role.
>>150365121Sounds everyone's worst traits combined into one guy. Would've made him Scrappy tier.
>>150359384it was pretty good i liked ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGi9OZrhx94
>>150366029That's why they never speak of him and banished him to the poop dungeon with Scrappy.
>>150346677Everyone's freaking out about this but I find it fascinating that his design would easily become the most dated as the show went on and as the years went by. Fred's ascot is a little weird but you could just chalk that up to a quirk of his, and everyone else is wearing clothes that still pass easily as modern. This guy is SO fucking late 60s he looks like an Austin Powers expat. They basically cut the single precise design that would end up dating things and as a result helped to make the series work in any timeframe, it's blowing my mind.
>>150346677>Sixth member of the Scooby Gang.I'm out of words.>>150347790Why do artists insist on making Fred the bottom? Shaggy is the one who can deepthroat; he also possesses toon force, he can take a girthy shaft up his arse with no problem.I swear I'm going to learn how to make AI images only to correct this.>>150350278How many Scooby clones HB made?
>>150365469I think he is in the bottom middle
>>150366157Seems possible. They nuked the stripes on his pants and did a few other modern tweaks.Still, it would be funny if he did show up somewhere as a background character and has been under everyone's noses in a random scene.On the Japanese side, Tatsunoko (bit H-B inspired themselves) did things like that in Judo Boy, where they took some Speed Racer guest character models, recolored them, then called it a day.
>>150366157Why did they make every single character so fuckable?
>>150366255Art evolution, they finally got to make more realistic characters starting with teenagers.
>>150366157Didn't know Captain Caveman was an ugly bastard
>>150363973Here's mine
>>150363973I tried following the actual fashion of the era, I'm fully aware this would probably be too busy for the budget they were working with but late 60s fashion was fucking neat.
>>150366200It is between him, or Alan from Josie.
>>150350409>Men need to be able to express their emotions and friendship>Men express their emotions and friendship>OMG THEY'RE SO IN GAY WITH EACH OTHER! This is why stoicism caught on.
>>150366138>How many Scooby clones HB made?At least this many >>150366157
>>150365591Which Scooby-Doo clones are your favorite? >>150362078>>150366157It's crazy how the Mystery Inc crew work well as individual designs and together as a group, especially when compared to the other series (Not counting the Jabber Jaw cast who are wearing the same outfit). Can any artist explain why that is?>>150366089That would be a interesting spinoff. Create a short with this guy and Scrappy solving mysteries. Maybe have them run in to the characters from the 3 Scrappy movies.
>>150366138>Why do artists insist on making Fred the bottom?Because good looking muscular bottoms are an actual thing that is common and actually exists, trust me, on this. And skinny, not often that attractive, and sometimes well hung tops with some other bad habits or problems (from bad personal hygiene, smoke too much, bad teeth, dead creature on their chin or upper lip line, drug use), are sadly a thing as well.
>>150366157imagine a world where speed buggy caught on instead of scooby doo
>>150350278Which makes sense in a way. Why have a homely smart girl when you can have a hot smart girl? Velma became a nerd sex symbol, but most frumpy smart girls don't.>>150366157God I miss actually human looking and hot girls in cartoons. Imagine if modern smut artists had something like these girls to work with.>>150366830>favorite Scooby clonesJessie and the Pussy-Cats probably, with Jabberjaw and Captain Caveman being honorable mentions. But I simply haven't watched enough episodes of the rest to really get acquainted with them.
>>150366157I forgot entirely about Inch High, Private Eye until now. Just a really tiny guy solving mysteries with his cute niece, dopey assistant, and dog
>>150366461I like this one the best. The colors are glaringly contrasting, but the blue pants are a nice pop of color to make him stand out
>>150352418Daphne was a beard?
>>150366830Strong color theory, they complement and contrast with each other, for example, Daphne purple to Velma orange.Neither girl is using the stereotypal girly colors.Despite of his casual wear, you don't see characters wearing clothes like Shaggy's.Fred is wearing blue, but the focus is on the white.
Someone already did it but I wanted to give it a try
>>150365077As other said I see him as a shadow of the others but to really flesh it out:instead of having the manners of the others he'd be a crude, braggart proudly going around using the mystery gang name and expecting preferential treatment like lodgings and food, which he'd complain about whether he gets them or not, from that and when scolded by someone he'd baselessly suspect whoever rubbed him the wrong way as the culprit, or just whoever he thinks is ugly. He'd confront them with hostile claims about their absence or how they're as lanky, short and smelly as the monster and rarely he'd even be right but his lack of wit and class result in the gang often being chased off and dismissed.Rather than Shaggy and Scooby being questionably told to go endanger themselves by Fred and Velma Mike would be the one who insists he's going to prove himself to Daphne/prove Fred wrong by dragging them off to confront the monster who he figures he has pegged and can clobber due to being a brown belt in some bullshido he always brings up. Shaggy and Scooby would spare him humiliating or painful consequences through comedic means while Fred and Velma solve everything before it escalates further.While Velma''s going over the clues she used to figure it out he'd butt in that his "process of elimination" is what helped narrow down the obvious flukes only to be med with a dry "If you say so" "Sure" or "Oh brother" from Daphne.I'm not sure if he should have some good traits though, like him always claiming he knows a guy whenever they get stumped or locked out and turning out to actually know someone like Cousin Skeeter.
>>150362078I think the Captain Caveman gang are a pretty close second, they have pretty good color coding
>>150367509Anon from earlier, yours clears mine. Excellent job making sense of him, let's see what fun can be had now!
>>150362078Is it me or does Velma look more Asian in her initial design?
>>150366084This is pretty cool, I wasn't expecting it to be so funny. Where can I watch the whole show? Short of torrenting, but I'm not above that. Just lazy.
Here's mine with the better anon lineart.
>>150345814Why would Fred go with Shaggy when he can take Daphne and Velma?
>>150367517random thought, it'd be funnier if the girl he's always trying to impress and/or flirt with is Velma rather than Daphne, gives some good opportunities for snark from Velma for one thingas for his good traits I'd have his primary ones be that beneath all the rude loudmouth act he's ultimately a good person(like he'd get all sorts of opportunities to get ahead but give it up because his conscience won't let him) and that he's fiercely loyal to his friends for both good and ill>>150368628that was the whole point of that scene to establish why the gang splitting up never goes that way
>>150367844It is the black hair
>>150367509Redo of >>150366630
>>150368815I like your vision so far.Think it'd be funny too if he tried to act like he was some muscular stud and like Fred's not special for that, though his own body type is painfully average to a bit pudgy beneath the clothes. Nothing too outrageous or remarkable to write home about.
>>150364407Too groovy and out of place desu
Imagine Fred and Shaggy having to be stuck together and it's testy enough, but then you have Mike being the third wheel and chaos ensuing or he has to be the glue balancing them.
Not gonna lie this guy's suave as fuck but even the most tame color proposals in this thread still make him stick >>150364694 and >>150366100 are right, the dude's design is just too rooted in the 60s compared to how timeless everyone else feels.
>>150369188you can just make him a theatre kid and the outfit writes itself
>>150368586Tubi
>>150364407looks like a hip Willy Wonka.
>>150365077The Alexandra of the group
>>150369006or in a similar vein he tries to outdo Shaggy and Scooby in their food shenanigans but ends up either overeating, or getting sick from eating the ridiculous things they tend to eat, or suffer from comedic allergies
>>150369558so he's just the totally average guy
>>150364144Something like this?Though I feel even if he made it into a version in some form, he'd probably have his pants made one color for simplification and to make him stick out less. So maybe the gray pants/purple shoes would work better for that.
>>150345814Shaggy is the gang's plug, how else are they all thinking Scooby-Doo talks.
>>150368604Very nice. Really fits in with the vibrant colors seen in those Hanna Barbera shows. >>150364144>>150369661Wow, that's nicer than mine! But I agree the stripped pants would probably be too much. I went with grey stripes, they look decent in my opinion. I also colored a version with a different pigment, what do you guys think?
>>150367310They're hippies, they're all fucking each other.Except for Scooby, he has standards.
>>150369661This outfit looks like he'd sell you DCBA-25 in a dark alley
>>150369661he looks like a gothic poet
>>150368604>Lupin III theme plays in the distance
>>150369736They look great! I feel the ambiguously brown skin tone makes the bolder colors pop more, though H-B would've likely had him be as light as the rest.But hey, if they wanted a little bit of diversity even then and even thought of having him be the Sal Mineo-type of the group (what with how Italians were seen), it works just as well.
>>150369777Oh my gosh! No wonder that color scheme looked so familiar. Now that sounds like a neat cross over if I ever heard one. Although not sure how you'd mesh with the usual spooky themes Scooby Doo has.
>>150369661>>150369736Looks like Odlaw color scheme, he would not be a friendly character
>>150369661>>150369736These are perfect! He looks convincingly like Fred's shadow self.
>>150369777kek, wasn't thinking of that but considering Hanna and Barbera met Monkey Punch, it'd fit just as well.
>>150369661>one color for simplificationI think this is something a lot of the attempts have not considered or have ignored. There probably needs to be certain simplicity of the scheme to give something like >>150366461 or >>150364016. I presume there were several other reasons they scrapped the idea, but just from a design perspective I am know wondering if they overdesigned him even in their rough concept art. It has been said about how much of his era he is, but beyond that is there just too much going on with the design that just does not work even at the time both alongside the other characters and for the budget?
>>150365077What is with Scooby and Shaggy in this? They look like they're expressing something their characters never really do.
>>150369795lupin can do spooky easily, especially because scooby is nearly all high level crime disguised as horror. you could even do one where the monster is lupin and they team with zenigata
>>150369736>>150364303>>150364016>Meanwhile in Bizzarro 4chan, it is the billionth thread discussing what ethnicity Mike actually is supposed to be.
>>150369795>>150369837>Lupin and the gang break into a mansion to try and steal a legendary treasure within>Mystery Inc. shows up because said mansion is also rumored to be haunted>The Lupin gang genuinely gets spooked the fuck out at the same time as Mystery Inc.>They crash into each other Hanna-Barbera style>Hijinks ensue as they try to get to the bottom of what this haunting really is while the Lupin gang tries to conceal the fact that they're literally thieves.
>>150369777My brain has always sort of categorized Lupin as the Japanese equivalent of Scooby-doo
>>150369781>They look great! I feel the ambiguously brown skin tone makes the bolder colors pop more, though H-B would've likely had him be as light as the rest.Thank you. I also went with that variant to better compliment the overall darker color scheme. I also went with a more brownish tone to take after characters like Flim Flam. >>150369810True, the black jacket seems a bit much too much. Although, I think it kind of works in a way. Making him visually distinct from the rest of the crew and more of a rival/antagonist of Fred.
>>150369736Gives off vibes he is French.
>>150369871>>150369914Kino ideas that will never make the light of day. What a shame.
>>150369920>Although, I think it kind of works in a way. Making him visually distinct from the rest of the crew and more of a rival/antagonist of Fred.That just gets to the theme throughout the thread, he does not actually seem to fit in with the gang. Maybe as some sort or reoccurring antagonist (maybe antagonist is too strong of word), but it is not really like the original show and era is geared towards enabling that.
>>150369914>Zenigata is befuddled by the talking dog and all this bullshit while he's trying to catch Lupin
>>150369978If you make a ginger version of him, he could be a retro Red Herring.
I love scooby-doo so much bros. https://youtu.be/qI81jH7Phww
What would that Velma TV show's take on Mike be?
>>150369937How so?
>>150370031Since Fred was portrayed as a stuck up privleged white male. I think it would be more of the same with Mike. Unless they went with the idea of him being of a different background. Much like how they raceswapped Shaggy. It's kind of funny to think about since the original Mike was removed as being rather unnecessary to the group. And with the ridiculous changes made on the Velma show. It makes Mike once again superfluous. Although had he been around since the start being a spoiled rich kid. He would've pretty much been Fred as seen on Velma.
>>150363973I call him Patrick, Pat for short. I would see his role in the group as the mechanic and electrical guy. keeps the Mystery Machine in functional state. a mellow kind of guy who's mellow attitude sees him sharing affinities with Shaggy, never one to pass on a snack like Scooby while on his skill set, he'd be able to help Fred set up his traps and plan them as well, make them more sophisticated and effective.Irish as fuck. always has a story about his large,extensive family.
>>150346677This is a great thread. Real life graggle simpson
>>150370313With that skin tone he looks like he is suffering from argyria.
>>150370317Now watch this escape the confines of this board. Then hundreds of memes follow suit on gimmick accounts. I could see it now. A Tiktok clip showing mike next to the gang? Remember everyone guys? I kind of want to see it but at the same time. I feel it would get played out real quick. Nevertheless, this has been a fun time. Though we did get on a bit of a tangent with OP. Asking why Fred and Shaggy hardly spend time together.
>>150366100>>150369188What's funny is that I think it's just the striped pants/belt buckle combo that did all the dating. I think the top could go timeless since it's just a coat at its core, but the stripes 100% has to go.
Give me your insane extended lore for Mike.
>>150370358im not happy on my choice either. i've never been good at selecting appropriate skin color. not an artist at all whatsoever.Aside fromthe skin colo, is there other improvements that could be made?
>>150370031If eliminating his rich setting: A hapless, attention-seeking guy who tries to posture himself as a "cool dude" but gets either ignored or laughed at.He's always trying to come up with some scheme to be more popular than Fred, but it backfires.
>>150367844I was thinking that too. Combination of her eyes, slightly darker skin and hair color I think. The others all look white, especially Daphne. Give her blonde hair and she'd look Scandinavian here.
>>150346677Reminds me of John Arbuckles neighbor from Garfield that got raped in his basement and killed off
>>150370403I guess we can figure out scenarios for Fred and Shaggy then, or how they'd be with the third guy as the buffer in the universe where they'd all interact more.
>>150369920>Remove 2 white characters to add 2 brown charactersWhy did they do his
>>150370415Looks good. Maybe a dark purple ascot could go along with the goldenrod/orange and the green, but the elimination of the stripes helps him blend in a little better.
>>150370415Nice and overall grounded color scheme. Not too sure you took after Shaggy and Velma's primary colors but it fits. As each member has a color shared amongst each others outfit. Although I think the ascot and the undershirt could use some different colors to separate each other. Otherwise a good look. Kind of reminds me of a detective during that period with the jacket, like Columbo.
>>150370472Wasn't he brought back on that 3D show?
>>150360914I feel they weirdly had a lot of chemistry in the first live action movie
>>150370504Seeing as how each member of the gang was inspired off of characters from Dobie Gillis. >>150352856 I think that would be a decent enough foundation. Though the trouble in that premise is making Mike a little more likeable and not a one note rival. But it could be a benefit for Shaggy and Fred. Seeing them stick together to get a one up on Mike's schemes. What do you think?
>>150370466I would say this applies to whatever anons do for the design, I think there needs to be a simplicity to it all. Velma is orange and red. Shaggy green and blue. Fred white and blue with the small element of orange. Daphne is largely purple (even if different shades) with the complementing green scarf and orange hair. You have green, mustard yellow, dark red, blue just in clothing all being rather distinct, along with the ginger hair. I am going to echo this >>150369838, the template itself may just be an issue. Like if you actually breakdown the other characters none of them even have a belt - which since I noticed it now really sticks out to me. Mike's belt itself effectively functions like Scooby's collar, Daphne's scarf, and Fred's ascot (and arguably even Velma's glasses) in terms of adding to he base design. Mike not only has that, but also whatever ascot/cravat thing he has. Point being, just the design of Mike does not seem to fit the style of the wider cast.
>>150370441His grandfather met Shaggy's great uncle during the Civil War, but unlike Shaggy his ancestor was in the Union. Either he killed him or they met in a field hospital after Shaggy's great uncle gets wounded
>>150362078>condom on a necklaceWhat did Velma mean by this?
>>150370674Sounds pretty good.
>>150370676Yeah, either the belt or the ascot would have to go. Since Fred and Daphne both have neckwear, you can figure to maybe eliminate the ascot and have his jacket be more enclosed with a stand-up collar which leaves the belt as the focal accessory.
>>150370566Columbo and other period detectives was what I was thinking of with him! I thought it had to be intentional for a mystery crew to have the dedicated detective looking dude
>>150369308Nice, thanks!
They're too busy banging chicks
>>150370441Mike's father was born in America to an English father and Irish mother, said father joined the French Foreign Legion where on his adventures he married a half-Berber half-Pied Noirs woman, Mike was born in Italy, and spent the ages of 4 to 8 raised in Brazil.
>>150370811Right...
>>150364916Frankencreepy and Moon Monster Madness have good comedy.
>>150370441Loves pear juice.
>Bat milk and cookies for everyoneWhat did he mean by this?
>>150366461Now give him a cigar and you've got a young Columbo.
>>150370777Is Mike going to be the ambiguity regarding Columbo on how much of it is an act of playing the fool, or is it going to be a more straight kid-friendly noir Sam Spade PI type.
>>150364916A favorite of mine has always been scooby doo and the cyber chase. I know not that many people here are fond of it. And yes there are multiple problems with the plot. And it's the last of the direct to video productions under Hannah Barbera. But it's one I always go back to.
>>150365077I feel like he couldn't have too antagonistic a relationship to the other characters, he needs to be likeable and believable they would hang around with him.>outgoing, gregarious rich kid who is super gung-ho for the mystery solving, but is spectacularly bad at it>maybe he's the one who is funding their operation and sees himself as the leader, and they sort of let him think that with a bit of a nod and a wink that he's really not>confidently comes to wrong conclusions that Velma has to shoot down, but maybe he gets them half right or does actually discover clues>is the opposite of Shaggy and Scooby in that he knows no fear, but to such a level it's detrimental to his own well-being and they have to pull him out of dangerous situations
>>150370969>is the opposite of Shaggy and Scooby in that he knows no fear, but to such a level it's detrimental to his own well-being and they have to pull him out of dangerous situationsInteresting enough but that last bit reminds me a bit too much of Scrappy.
>>150370999Probably why he and Scrappy would be the rejects who'd wind up being an unlikely buddy comedy duo trying to solve mysteries. They want payback for being forgotten and aim to prove their worth, but then wind up really just liking the adventure.
>>150370922>>150370862>>150365335Thanks for the suggestions. I went with Music of the Vampire for later tonight.
>>150370920I think if he was supposed to be the detective character, he'd take over Velma's current role as the one who pieces all the clues together and Velma would be relegated into just the researcher/factoid girl instead of overall brain, and also the guy they let explain the motives before unmasking.But that would be a pretty big role in a mystery crew and brings into question why he was already at the sides instead of taking a more central pose in the middle. Maybe they figured Mike would've been too much of a main character if they had a detective character.
>>150364006I know the feeling
>>150370999I think the problem with Scrappy in those situations is that he's nothing but catchphrases and aggression. I was thinking more of a laid-back foolhardy and oblivious attitude than just putting up his fists every time.
>>150370969>I feel like he couldn't have too antagonistic a relationship to the other characters, he needs to be likeable and believable they would hang around with him.Some times, Scooby-Doo clones have bitchish/dickish characters that are the butt of the jokes.
>>150371056>an unlikely buddy comedy duo trying to solve mysteriesSounds pretty good. Makes me think they could form their own mystery gang consisting of characters the original gang have teamed up with in the past. But the comedy duo sounds much more concise. >I was thinking more of a laid-back foolhardy and oblivious attitude than just putting up his fists every time.I see, that's definitely more tolerable than Scrappy's schtick.
>>150371122Meant to reply to you, too. >>150371177
Speculating on Mike is fun and all, but if I am to give a serious answer on what function he could possibly fulfil then I do not think there is one - or at least not one that helps the show. Even if we go with the stance of the gang being rather blank templates (especially in their original inception) then all Mike does with these ideas is have that much personality it becomes bizarre relative to the rest of the characters. If we go with 'actually the gang do have substantive personalities' then you have the issue of balancing 6 characters - this seems sort of obvious to say given the very name of the franchise, but I feel like on some level, maybe due to him being a dog, that not only do you have Fred, Shaggy, Daphne, and Velma, but you also have Scooby to handle. It seems like you either get Mike being some sort of duplicate of someone else (e.g. Velma = detective) that it undermines said other character; foil (e.g. Fred / Mike) that I do not know how much millage there is to the actual concept for what the show is even aiming to be, especially if you do the antagonistic (even if mild); or attempt to do an in-between/cross-between two characters (e.g. positioning Mike as a cross-between Fred and Shaggy) where is just becomes you may as well just assign the traits more clearly to reference points.
>>150371062The KISS movie is also great. Very Jack Kirby inspired.
>>150371267I have seen the KISS movie a few times and shown it to friends. Its scooby-pilled a few of them. Genuinely one of the best films Scooby has done.
>>150371253If he'd fit anywhere it'd be in some H-B spinoff show about their ditched characters. Penelope Pitstop's supposed brother would be there, along with the third sidekick that Dick Dastardly had in "Flying Machines" (he's in some early art, and Jerry Eisenberg remembered drawing three to emulate the Stooges but not his name).
>>150370707She only agreed to join the gang on the off-chance she'd get to fuck Fred, so she has to be ready to go at any moment
>>150371253I think the issue here is that Mike was cut for efficiency, per >>150358663, so that it's very possible that his role was cut up and shared among the remaining characters. Fred wouldn't be the Fred we know if Geoff/Mike was still around, so maybe Fred could be less of a leader and Velma could be less of a detective.
>>150359665This sounds painfully unfun to watch after a few viewings and you then understand the gimmick and routineImagine instead of jokes about Fred's ascot you got cuck jokes instead. At least Shaggy and Scooby are endearing characters despite being cowardly fuck ups, they're good people and you can do more with them over time. This here just sounds like the most you can do with the Richie Rich guy is have Daphne acknowledge him sometimes because being a mini-antagonist frenemy is his core character trait
>>150371430Would be interesting if we could look into some other timeline and see if the show was a success and all had such franchise longevity. Maybe it is just due to what I am familiar with, but I cannot see it having the success with Mike. As you say, it is just not Mike, his inclusion potentially affects Fred, Velma and so on. Mike's inclusion just seems like all the pieces for whatever gave the show the winning formula gets lost.
>>150371528My guess is that if Mike was included, it would be forever stuck in the 60s and forgotten with the rest of the HB cheap band cartoons.
>>150371759Same if Scooby had stayed the sheepdog "Too Much", it'd be too much like Archie.
>>150371759Given the amount of attempts to recapture Scooby-Doo by HB its failure seems like it should have butterflies on the company beyond just not so much Scooby-Doo being made.
>>150371827Probably they go under sooner. Biggest butterfly effect would be on Adult Swim. Imagine a world without Sealab or Coast to Coast.
>>150371759Probably not, what made Scooby-Doo was Shaggy & Scooby, the writers admitted that they found the rest of the cast boring, because of this they were split the way they were.
>>150355664That's also because the animal companion usually takes up the sixth optional slot of the typical five man band.Fred is the LeaderDaphne is the heartShaggy is the powerhouseVelma is the brainbut there's no lancer. No one to serve as a source of friction to Fred, and balance out his boyscout personality. The most we get is velma being a bit sarcastic, and Shaggy just generally being different to him.
>>150346677Do you guys think they adapted his role into Red Herring in A Pup Named Scooby Doo?Just some more rebellious edgier kid that serves as a sort of rival to Fred to contrast his more straight-laced personality.
>>150372005>Hero: Scooby-Doo.>Lance: Shaggy.>Big guy: Fred.>Smart girl: Velma>Chick: Daphne. The first 3 positions can be swapped around.
>>150372095Why does Fred have a mohawk?
>>150371973They made a dozen other cartoons with an animal or buggy companion and none of them had the staying power Scooby Doo did.
>>150372096It's never really Scooby that does the leading toward finding anything though. Most of the time when he finds stuff with his dog senses, it's because one of the others suggests he does.Fred has his iconic "Let's split up and search for clues" routine, and is usually the one to do the talking alongside velma when the big reveal happens at the end of each episode.I could kind of see Shaggy as the Lancer and Scooby as the Big Guy though. Shaggy ends up with a different momentary goal than the others when he gets distracted by food, and Scooby does what he does very well despite not having a diverse range of skills like some of the others.I heard an interpretation of the mystery gang that I thought should be capitalized on more. Each of them could have their own unique specialty of intelligence. Velma has knowledge of physics and chemistry to be able to see and interpret things that the others wouldn't. Daphne has the best social skills, able to tell when someone is lying, or piecing together subtle dynamics between people. Shaggy has worldly experience, knowing more fine inner workings of the places they go to, and being able to ascertain a physical motivation for the crime. Scooby would be more intuition based, vaguely pointing them in the direction that feels off to him. And Fred is the one to piece it all together, keeping track of each moving part, and figuring out how they logically fit all together.As it stands, Velma is the one who figures things out. Shaggy and Fred are goofballs, Scooby is a goofball who also can occasionally talk to animals or sniff out a clue, and Daphne is still the girl sometimes with a bit of Buffy the Vampire Slayer mixed in.
>>150372111It's a pompadour.
>>150372095When I was younger, I found out the guy who plays Robin in Teen Titans also did Red Herring's voice, and that blew my mind. Looking back, you can clearly tell it's him though.
Daphne>Velma
>>150345814i never liked that scene. after years of watching scooby doo, shaggy and fred acting like just acquaintances instead of goofy friends rubbed me the wrong way
>>150372400cringe
>>150372407All of the cartoons after the original are terrible.
>>150370031Virtue signaling allyhanding out food to the homeless on camera for instagram, going to BLM rallies just to hit on the women
>>150346677It was always him.>>150362078Condom necklace
I figured they are friends because Velma and Fred bond over mystery solving Velma is friends with Shaggy since that is the only reason i could think of shaggy to even get involved with the scary shit that he obviously does not like. Maybe he just likes the cross country road trip stuff
>>150372407What's new Scooby-Doo meta humor was a coin flip at times.
>>150372614I liked the episode where the person who did it was a complete rando and it pissed off Velma.
>>150362811We've gotten to the point where we go from "Simpsons did it" to "Rick and Morty did it."
The hardest part is making sure the color harmony isn't really disrupted
>>150372655He was removed because he did disrupt the color harmony.
>>150372675Cruel world...
>>150372655this image feels unholy.
>>150372655Seems like an impossible task with Fred's shirt being white. You have this natural endstate after all the colors in Fred's white but then you add more color after that with Mike.
>>150372710>Rho rar rou?>C'mon Scoob, don't you reocgnize me, O̶̰̿͌̈l̷̡͍̻̬̒̊̓͝'̸̞̪̺̦̐̑͊͒̐ ̵̬͉͗b̵͓̩͓̟̀͂̇̇͒ͅṵ̴̧̇͒ḏ̶͚̠̔̊̈́͌̀d̵̢̰̜͕̆̒́̋̚ỵ̴͓͒̋͐,̵̛̯̠͚͕̍̈́̒ ̸̡͋̕͝ͅò̵͚̥̘̐͝ľ̶̡͔͓̥͛̾͊͝'̴̩̦̆͋́̀ ̴̼̯̜̑̌̽̏̔ͅp̴͔͛̈́͆͝a̷̛̹͎͖̓̒̔l̴̪̥͉͓̀̾.̸̖̜̽
>>150372787Somebody color him in the devil's palette
>>150372725The only solution is to eliminate Fred and give Mike his big break
>>150372903No! Fred is underappreciated as is.
>>150346677he and fred have the literal exact same face
I want a series with Scooby, Scrappy, Shaggy, Velma, and Mike.
>>150372941Maybe a series with just Scooby, Shaggy, Fred, and Mike. Every episode they try to score a new girl while solving the mystery
>>150370583he was in one episode, not a recurring character. I think he was a wildlife photographer
>>150372925The jawline is different
>>150372787Shaggy & Scooby Get A Clue but instead it's Mike & Fred Try To Get Wed
>>150346677Shred or faggy?
>>150372787>Let's go gang! We got a mystery on our hands!
>>150372925I think he would look more different in motion, I think his face looks like it's scrunched upwards and he has a gigantic jaw
>>150346677El Hermano?
>>150373150Yes, he looks more like a jock
>>150373187That's why I kind of see him as the origins of Red Herring. He looks like he'd be more argumentative and aggressive. He could be the one to get into Fisticuffs with the bad guy. Maybe that's part of the reason they cut him. If he gets beat too often, he doesn't look like the tough guy. If he wins, then they don't even need to solve the mystery to see who's under the mask.
>>150373137So, what his personality like?
>>150355645The emptiness is because Daphne is posing solo instead of resting her hand on Shaggy's shoulder.>>150361808Who was the guy who was erased?>>150362078Well, would you look at that. The live-action TV movies were right in casting an Asian for Velma.>>150363973Here is my amateur attempt. I think he should look like a jock since Fred has the prep look, and Shaggy is the chill one; his skin tone could be slightly tanner than Fred's.>>150365077I don't like Fred's eyes here; they feel feminine.>>150366659Alan is Fred's brother; he even has a thing for a redheaded girl!>>150366897I know about that, anon; I have jerked off to those guys and fantasized about being a himbo myself. My question is, why make Fred the bottom when Shaggy can deepthroat you?
>>150359431Killing myself in front of Ruby and Spears thus scarring them for life
>>150373185great, the spics have arrived
>>150373291>Who was the guy who was erased?Nikolai Yezhov
>>150362811That seems a bit too similar to what Mystery Inc did with the previous incarnation of the gang
>>150345814What is there dynamic?
>>150369334He looks like Ringo
>>150367844I think she looks more autistic than Asian, like a frumpy autistic girl I once knew. Still cute though.
>>150373277Since everyone is taking liberties. I guess I see him as this superfly kind of guy. In a similar social circle as Fred and Daphne but willing kick it with Shaggy from time to time. As others have mentioned, Mike was likely inspired by Chatsworth from Dobie Gillis. I like the idea of him being a rival to Fred. But it's not outright malicious or dismissive. He's outgoing if a bit overconfident in his abilities. Whether that's playing sports or solving a mystery. He also likes to keep up with current fashion trends and often goes to Daphne for advice.
>>150370676thanks anon, that's good insight. I was angled towards the irish aspect of the character for the most part, trying to make sensible choices in the rest of the spaces but your points hold strong, he's all over the place and in everyone elses' color schemes
>>150369860They're expressing the smug sense of superiority you experience from owning an air fryer
>>150373277He solves everything with money, and if the money isn't working he throws more money at it
>>150371062I just finished this. Was actually great. I only wish it committed harder to its musical angle. https://youtu.be/ZWLNepwRWx8?feature=shared
>>150369980Better idea: Zenigata keeps thinking Scooby is somehow Lupin in a dog costumeAnd of course Lupin does exactly this in the finale to evade capture
Here's some character options, basically horror tropes:1. super skeptic of even mundane things. Thinks things are always smoke and mirrors, swamp gas, or the government.2. Incredibly overconfident, has poor risk assessment. "Nothing bad could ever happen to *me* kind of guy"3. Prankster, other members of the gang write-off happenings as him messing around or assuming he's the guy in the mask. 4. Has a gun. Never gets to use it or always misses.
>>150373463all these years, all this suffering. I could end it all... IF ONLY I HAD AN AIR FRYER!
>>150373530kek
>>150373524Interesting indeed not too sure if the gun could get a pass though but it does sound cool.
>>150365077These fuckers are Jojo posing.
>>150373524>Has gun>its a pellet gun>uses it to trigger environmental chain reactions that uncovers hidden areas, blocks a route the bad guy is trying to escape through or triggers fred's trap with it to capture the bad guy with>followed up with "Jackpot!"
>>150373277
>>150373630
>>150373630That's thanks to Iwao Takamoto, definitely taking cues from japanese media when initially designing these characters. Very striking. I wonder what would Mike's pose would've looked like?
>>150373630Those are just normal poses. You're probably confused because the actual show never did anything beyond tracing from the model sheets.
>>150373691Probably very outlandish, something like putting his spread hand in front of his face
>>150373524>"Don't make me use this!">hands shaking >eyes closed as he pulls the trigger
>>150373277Literally just the King in Yellow but trying to get Mystery Inc. to find the Yellow Sign.
>>150373729You can't tell me Velma and Daphne don't have some Araki in them right there.
>>150373840No because Araki hadn't become a mangaka yet when this would've been drawn
This thread has been quite a ride.
>>150373137he looks like freds stand in this pic
>>150363973>>150367509i had to
>>150373937Yeah, from the posing and everything. Come to think of it. The color scheme isn't that far off from a certain stand user.
>almost 400 posts>posters are too busy inventing OCs to post the Deepercutt videohttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kCGGokRI45U&t=193
>>150346677How come nobody has talked about this? I searched it up and all i found was some reddit post with a handful of comments
>>150373795>*cartoon gun ricochet sound(you know the one)*>recycled scenes of shaggy and scooby ducking with recycled backgrounds>somehow activates Fred's previously faulty/jammed trap
>>150374149What you talking about? >>150358050
>>150370031Having seen a bit of how Chatsworth acts in Dobie Gillis, they'd probably make Mike into a flamboyantly gay rich guy, maybe raceswap him as Hispanic too. Could also change the old money angle to him being a famous celebrity. That or a stuck up privileged white guy.
I was obsessed with Scooby-Doo as a kid, so I always imagined myself as the sixth member (seventh if Scrappy). So selfishly, I can't accept Mike. He's taking my spot. MY spot.
>>150374062Ringo Starr??
>>150374716https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ZhLsU0MN8Chatsworth comes off as really theatrical and over the top, I can easily see how Mike could be reworked as gay based on him
>>150374851Become Mike.
>>150374851You'll have to duel him in the realm of forgotten characters to take his place
Didn't know i'd learn about some obscure early 60s sitcom from here
>>150372910You're right. Get rid of Scooby then, Mike has the ability to walk on all fours and the joke will be that he can sneak into places and do espionage in costume (dog costume), hence the show name.
>>150374218>"Great job, Mike! You really came through for us back there.">"Huh?" *glances at the captured villain>"Yeah... I sure did!">"They don’t call me Deadeye for no reason, you know!"*audience laughter*
the charlie the robot episode is the greatest piece of scooby media ever. fucking incredible + iconic
How come Scooby had so many female dogs wanting to fuck him?>>150364947
>>150375756It's a doggie dog world.
>>150375756kek just as you say that. in the ep i'm watching:
>>150346677I feel Graggle'd here
>>150346677Genuinely shocked
>>150374855>>150367509>>150363973my thoughts exactlyi swear i saw a beatles design that's pretty much a carbon copy of this guy
>>150362149my bad
>>150346677this feels like graggle, but it's realit's just that my brain can't accept it even if it is
>>150373524>Incredibly overconfident, has poor risk assessment. "Nothing bad could ever happen to *me* kind of guy>Mike usually goes with Shag and Scoob. Keep them out of trouble, etc.>Shag and Scoob have to deal with him pushing them forward or Mike.>Or Mike being an overconfident straight man to Shag and Scoob's usual antics.>Shag and Scoob use Mike as a booby trap/ spooky room checker.
>>150372630>I liked the episode where the person who did it was a complete rando and it pissed off Velma.oh yeah that was hilarious>>150359431>You are given a time machine and sent back to work for HB in 1979. How do you prevent scrappy from being hated by future generations?let him actually succeed with "Puppy Power" occasionally, I remember as a kid watching CN's nigh endless reruns of various Scooby-Doo series that pretty much whenever one of the Scrappy era shows aired that Scrappy being all talk and never being allowed to actually pummel anything to be incredibly annoying, especially if it was a block or marathon and thus you could potentially end up watching multiple Scrappy episodes in a row
>>150373291>My question is, why make Fred the bottom when Shaggy can deepthroat youIt's just because people like it that way, I guess. Plus seeing a himbo like him take the submissive role is a change from the usual schtick. Not that anon by the way.
>>150362426Black hair, yes. No glasses? Eeeeehhhhh.
>>150345814They're the kind of friends who start off awkward and mostly just hang out with the group and don't have much in common but because they're the only dudes they eventually bond over past shit and become the only ones who stay friends as adults, realistically speaking
>>150365077Like other anon said, he is like the Reggie of the group. At best, he would be like Butters in South Park. Out of Universe, a successful addition to the main cast but doesn't gel well with the rest of the gang. A one-sided love interest for either or both of the girls might be interesting for a while but it'll get old fast.
>>150346601https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTDGDxawoBA
You could make it into sort of an "unlikely duo" thing. Freddie looks like a stereotypical jock at first, but putting aside all the memes, he was never actually all that jock-like. You don't really need to have shared interests to be friends, you just need to click. As long as you enjoy each others' company, I think that's enough. And if you really need to create a reason for these two to bond over, there's no reason you can't just make something.I feel like a lot of people don't recall this, but Shaggy was actually a pretty athletic dude in the original show. He was a gymnast and he's sometimes shown appreciation for sports. Just make the two of them big sports fans.
>>150355645Scrappy is missing.
>>150370031Velma!Mike would just be their Fred and that would make Velma!Fred into a poor hispanic mechanic
>>150372407>shaggy and fred acting like just acquaintancesI think it was less this and more they were just weirded out by not doing their traditional pair-offs. Like their usual routine has been thrown off.
>>150371513Again, look at Reggie, he's a classic enduring character. The guy is basically just there to be the butt of jokes and provide some social conflict. Like someone who would challenge Fred's decision to split up or to go into a dangerous dilapidated building.>>150373137>Dang, gang, it sure isn't the same since Mike got lynched in that small Alabama town before we caught the specter who was really responsible...
>>150374185We had a thread about it when it was posted. Everyone is way more shocked this time.
>>150372407>>150377538Like was mentioned, Fred was supposed to be the boyfriend of Shaggy's sister's best friend. That's three social layers away. They scrapped that idea, but never updated their relationship. They should have made them friends like in that live action show that was used for inspiration. Maybe have Fred go with Shag and Scoob during split-ups sometimes and have some goofy fun while Velma and Daphne have some girls' talk.
>>150373523Based and brilliant
>>150373291Interesting take, it solves the issue with the dual accessories and gives his belt more visual character.
>>150373104Mike goes Graggling himself into every show and dynamic you can think of.
>>150371905Also wouldn't be around to inspire Tatsunoko to do their recycling of Time Bokan again and again.>>150372095Now we need some more ginger Mikes or trying Red's palette.
>>150374992>Mike likes to insist he could pull a girl, he's so straight>Shaggy and Fred abandon him during his bragging to go do something more fun>They know what he really wants and they don't want to be stuck being "it" in desperate situations>The two wind up in their own situation anyway where they have a quickie
>>150375870What's her name?
Is this the part where /co/ memes the other guy so much that he gets canonized in a future Scooby movie?
>>150378117Maybe if some fag from Twitter finds this thread and makes a viral post
>>150378140They'll probably turn him into a girl or give him a Miku binder.
>>150346677How the fuck have I never seen this before?
Now I’m just imagining a satanic parody where Mike is sacrificed and the gang split his remains and consume them so they all share Mike’s traits
>>150378373He annoyed them too much with his smugness and foppish behavior, and they just so happened to learn of a really cool Satanic ritual at the same time.
>>150378373Scooby inherited his fuckboy traits
>this isn't weed, Shaggy
>>150359431Make a movie where his attitude is toned down and he learns from his mistakes, and having him take less spaceThus the following seasons where he’s in would be less hated probably
>>150373680What other show was he recycled for?
They're fags
>>150378464That's what anons have been trying to solve. If they didn't copypaste his design 1:1, he may have been redesigned for one of the other Scooby clone shows or some other show of the era.
>>150374716Mike would be a mommy's boy too then, with his mom seeing him as pathetic.
>>150360425Had the same problem with Mystery Inc. where 50-80% of all monsters of the week the gang suspects person A, followed person A, realized that they got it wrong and it was in fact person B (almost anyone but the main suspect who had a speaking role and was verbally abused)
Why did HB release no influential cartoon in the 70s?, the most popular cartoon from that era began in 1969
>>150378513In part because they were trying to replicate Scooby-Doo, whatever else they had done previously, or just adapting live-action shows. It also depends on what you qualify as influential. Do you mean on animation, the direction of the company, having some continuing presence in wider media of some sort. I am not sure I would call it influential, certainty not in the tiers of Flintstones or Scooby-Doo, and in the case of one its it not even their characters, but you can note Josie and the Pussycats, Sealab 2020, and Super Friends all being done in the 1970s and having some notability in their own way. Perhaps the most notable thing of the 3 is they all appeared in the first half of the decade.
>>150378513They had a near-total monopoly on TV animation output by like 1971 and just got crazy lazy. Some of their 70s output is famous but it all relied on formulas set up in the 60s so it almost intentionally wasn't trying to be influential.
weird that so many people tried to make him darker skinned when designing his colour palette
>>150378674I think it was just an attempt to distinguish him from Fred even more.
played with one of the bases to simplify him more
>>150378393>>150378399Should be done by the same guy who did Scooby as an eldritch entity that killed and ate all versions of the scooby doo gang
>>150370674>Seeing them stick together to get a one up on Mike's schemes. What do you think?I'm glad they axed the character. Seeing this next to a screenshot of the original series made be realize how much I loved it for it's simplicity. There is a spooky mystery and they work together to solve it. Just the thought of that getting derailed by another character would ruin the appeal.
>>150378662Barbera implied that the networks kept wanting that formula. Why turn down money they kept throwing at them?
>>150374250Oh. Sorry, I didn't notice.>captcha:8ntrk
>>150364916>The one with the Yeti for some Shaggy rizz>The one with the Loch Ness monster for seeing Daphne extended family>The one with the samurai for martial arts Daphne and Shaggy and Scooby being samurais>The one in Hawaï because I like summer
>>150378679What if he was ghostly pale like how gingers can be, and could only thrive in the dark because the sun would turn him into a boiling lobster.
>>150368604With a little makeup he’d look like he lives in a society
>>150379151>he was a vampire all alongwould be a really interesting twist
>>150379151Too many redheads then alongside Daphne and Velma
>>150369918I mean it kind of is, there are a LOT of episodes and movies where they go to some weird haunted location and end up foiling some guy. I wonder if Scooby Doo was an inspiration on the anime. I know it wasn't on the manga, the manga's crazy adult.
>>150368604Like other's have said, he has too many colors compared to the iconic cast.>>150369736>Very nice. Really fits in with the vibrant colors seen in those Hanna Barbera shows.Exactly, he looks like he belongs in one of the forgotten shows, but looks out of place on the main cast.
>>150378674Just going too far trying to make him nega-Fred. I can't imagine HB would make an old money black guy in the 60s, much less one constantly trying to cuck Fred
>>150379320Flamboyant dark haired, pale skinned guy that wants to suck blood but preferably those of other men
>>150379351Isn't Velma more of a brunette?
>>150379461It varies from show to the show, but her hair in the OG show has always looked maroon to me
Remember the furry guy Tom that had a fetish for Scooby Doo insulting him?
>>150379762Freckles are a dead giveaway.
It does look like the image Van Partible shared was a photocopy of the original color art, so the question would be if there are any existing color copies or if the original image board that pasted over the cut guy still exists in-person.
>>150346677Wow, that is a lot of replies over this rando.
>>150379907I think it's definitely an old photocopy of this one >>150362078 before the original paper got cut, just a copy for some final changes. It should still exist since they took a photo of it for CW back in 2021. Looking at this >>150362515, if Mike goes public enough maybe someone at Warner might get someone to look through the paper, like how art historians scan some old paintings to reveal hidden stuff underneath
>>150374062BROWN BRICKS
>>150378982>The one with the Loch Ness monster for seeing Daphne extended familyThat sounds fun, I'll watch it tonight, thanks anon.
>>150380854That could be funny if it does, then you get all the websites gasping and clickbaiting about "THE LOST MYSTERY INC. MEMBER" and then people scrambling to put together their video essays to see who gets to be first.
>>150370676I don't think Fred would have ended up with an ascot if Mike was left in.
>>150381172That, or they'd nuke Mike's ascot and give him a stylish turtleneck like the guy from the Funky Phantom.
>>150381101bet there's already a handful underway already, there's a lot of "content creators" that just repackage shit they get off of here
>>150381028Nice, it was my favourite as a kid
>>150381191Eh, using Funky Phantom as an example just makes me think Fred would be the one with the turtleneck and Mike would have the jacket + ascot.
>>150380562He created Johnny Bravo
>>150346677His mysterious death is what brought the gang together in the first place
>>150381649Literally who?
>>150360914What do you think they were up during the 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo era?
>>150363973Outfit is a little busy compared to the rest of the team
>>150381693He will rape you
>>150373388>>150377069
>>150346677>Fred is based on "the jock'>Shaggy was based on beatnik cultureWhat 1960s culture group would this guy be part of? Mod? Rocker? Surf?
>>150352856>it's literally Fred, Shaggy and the hip guy>But realHoly fuck.
what are the quintessential scooby-doo series and in what order?
>>150382542You might get other takes but for me it's Where Are You, 13 Ghosts, What's New, and Mystery Inc.
>>150382542i'd recommend this orderwhere are you -> scooby doo show -> 13 ghosts -> zombie island -> witchs ghost -> whats new -> mystery inc -> be coolwhere are you and scooby doo show should be lumped in together, i never got why people don't. its basically a continuation
>>150369661Holy shit its perfect
>>150382542OG Where are you (3rd season is a lie btw)These 4 movies: Zombie Island, Witch's Ghost, Alien Invaders, Cyber ChaseMystery IncThe rest are optional and lower quality
>>150382426He was a hipster >>150373680
>>150370415Thanks nit a bad updated design. He looks a bit hipster, but a cool one, not like a douchbag.
>>150368959>>150366630So 60s Austin Powers would say he's too groovy.
Trying yellow for his focal color.
>>150382426The rich kid. Think the millionaire from Gilligan's Island but as a teenager.
>>150352856>>150382489But wait, there's more
>>150382855There were even two rich guys in Dobie Gillis. Once Warren Beatty quit, they had to bring in another and explained him as Milton's cousin but he was a lot funnier.
>>150346677How am I just learning about this?
>>150382843looks good
>>150382876The cut fifth guy seems to be an occasional curiosity on Reddit and Tumblr, there was even someone asking if anyone had the design for "Mike" years ago so his name was known if not his looks.
>>150378076>the joke is Mike is actually straight, he's just a theater kidHilarious.
>>150378728The sweater doesn't look too bad actually, I could see that being a redesign of him in What's New that carries over.
>>150382843Not a bad contrast, but it feels like he needs the ascot if the sweater is black.
>>150382971Shaggy and Fred just tried so hard to no-homo him, the two of them discover they're the homo milk while their third wheel walks in all "Hey guys what's up?".
>>150382843Let's review for a momentFred - BlueVelma - OrangeShaggy - GreenDaphne - PurpleRealistically I think a new member would be mainly yellow so this one is the best one yet.Can you make him ginger tho? I feel like he would be ginger but I don't know it that would look good on the yellow/green scheme...
>>150382542Every series in release orderThe only one I haven't watched here is Guess Who. Is it any good?
>>150383192its ok. the celebrity guests are really hit and miss. its weirdly well animated though. its basically like the new scooby movies again
>>150383157I feel like maybe you could spring for redI'm trying my best to remove red shirt shaggy bias
>>150383157His hair would have to be different enough from Daphne and Velma's shades, but sure, let's see about that.Then let whatever of us testers see how a red scheme could look, with whatever hair.
>>150383319I like this>>150383157>>150383251I just realised how cool the gang's colours are.Fred and Daphne's design philosophy is having colours that sit opposite of each other in the colour wheel while Shaggy and Velma stick with similar tones onlyFred has blue but he pairs that with an orange scarf and a bright yellow hair and Daph wears purple but pairs it with a green scarf and ties it all together with a nice shade of orange for her hair(she is halloween themed lol)Then Velma wears all warm tones(red, orange, brown) and shaggy just uses this green and super soft(almost yellow) browns like that's so cool.
>>150346677Looks like a better version of Fred.
>>150383192I think we're getting an anime-inspired take on Scooby next.
>>150383319I'd suggest making the colours just a bit less saturated, it looks good as it is but when you put him next to the others it makes their colours look muted in comparison
This was a good thread. Watch the Scooby-Doo and KISS crossover, it's really good. https://youtu.be/k_plih5b9To https://youtu.be/at3506DSugg
>>150346677Was this really that big a deal?
>>150383578As if the Family Guy-ified Be Cool, Scooby Doo wasn't bad enough. Wish they would just stop.
Good thread, i learned a lot of shit that i didn't know before (the lost Mystery Gang member and Dobie Gillis)
>>150383850be cools art style sells it really short, its a lot better than it looks on first impression
>>150383850>>150383876This desu. Be Cool is underrated.
>>150383832How is a long lost member of a popular kids show that has been ongoing for 60 years not a big deal?
>>150383850I enjoyed Be Cool quite a bit, the art doesn't do it justice but I can't see it working without that style
>>150383319The reddish-brown works well with this.
>>150364016>brownHow many brown characters at all were in the original show?
>>150383971thats just how they drew greek people in the 60s
>>150383611Like this? Kind of got carried away kek. Feels like a deviantART recolor gallery.
>>150377069Something gay happening while the girl's expression is unknown. my favorite!How did this trope happen?
>>150383888People have discussed the character years before this thread. This isn't even the first /co/ thread about this guy.
>>150383971Must be Greek or Italian but you know H-B wouldn't play that way until the 70s.
>>150383192>cancelled unnamed cartoon>everyone looks like ass except Daphne, who's super hotHuh, makes me wish they made it.Also WTF were they thinking with Be Cool? At least Get a Clue look original, Be Cool just looks cheap with those designs. No wonder people didn't watch it despite it apparently being OK.
>>150383971Pretty sure there were none until the Harlem Globetrotters in the New Scooby-Doo Movies, unless I'm forgetting some background character
>>150384038Hmmm, Maybe give him 2's outfit with 1's hair color, then either lighten the sweater a bit so the collar is visable or give him the ascot back to break up the black and it might work.
>>150383192I refuse to believe Get a Clue and Be Cool are real.
>>150384038I think the color of #2's jacket is best. Though, the gang already has a blonde, a redhead, and 2 brunets, but no one with black hair. I think Mike having black hair is a must.
>>150384064>No wonder people didn't watch it despite it apparently being OK.That was because it was the first show after Mystery Incorporated ended when the most vocal fans acted like MI was the only good Scooby Doo show ever made and deviating from the formula and art direction was a sacrilege
>>150384141I wouldn't believe A Pup Named Scooby Doo was real either if I didn't watch it myself in the morning as a kid.
The party is over. Time to banana split out of my club!
>>150384213It looks like garbage regardless of what vocal MI fans think. It looks more like a parody of Scooby Doo than a genuine series.
This has been one of the best /co/ threads in a while
>>150384051Maybe it caught the eye of a bunch of new people this time. I only check /co/ on weekends and this is the first time I've seen this.
>>150383192>spoiler You've seen the Cancelled Unnamed Incarnation?
>>150384339I suppose
>>150383192holy shit be cool schoobydoo looks awful
>>150384116I guess these are my final tests, with and without ascot and black vs. brown. Since Fred and Daphne have secondary color neckwear, I followed with that in purple for his ascot.See you all around unless there's another thread, or for other forgotten H-B characters to play with.
>>150384051Van Partible only released his concept art pretty recently and I guess it's flown entirely under the radar until nowcaptcha:S4NTA
>>150384419Yeah, that ugly ass Family Guy esque art style was a kiss of death for it. Sucks since the show's pretty fun and has probably the best version of Daphne ever.
>>150384395Yes.Source: I've seen it in my dreams
>>150384328Let's tune in next time for more about Fred and Shaggy getting to explore each others' bodies while Scooby cheers them on.
>>150384492No joke, first one fits the mirror Fred design idea without looking dated, but all of these are dope.
>>150384492Huh, you've mamaged to make Mike's ascot work, nice.
>>150384639Thanks! This has been a pretty fun exercise in figuring out color schemes and simplification, and I enjoyed seeing what all the other guys cooked up during this time trying to make him come to life too.
>>150384492#1 looks perfect imho
>>150384619>Implying Scooby doesn't get to join in
>>150384685>>150384662Cool, guess that's my potential Mike then, to go along with all the others.
>>150384692Oh he will, you know he doesn't want Shaggy ignoring him for long and keeping the Scooby Snacks to himself in bed.
>>150384492The first is perfect! I feel like the purple cravat gives him so much character. Also I can't help but chuckle at that big M on his belt.
>>150384747kek yeah, thought if the belt were to be his lone accessory, it'd help bring some of Chatsworth's egotism over. Though, let's see how he'd look in the line-up then...
Been a really good thread folks. Until next time.
>>150384492#1 look sauve af, would party with.
>>150384492>Mic, Mike & Michael Mysterieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEw3jGlvyZU
>>150384834>Mike reintroduction to canon is leading a bunch of Scooby-Doo clone characters or left behind characters like Googi in a mystery solving contents against Mystery Inc.I'd watch jt.
>>150384864>Mike>Scooby-Dum>Googie>Hot Dog WaterWe need an alternate universe Shaggy
>>150384828He will try to break containment
>>150385083I haven't watched Scooby Doo in maybe 15 years or more, but if they made a new show that included him, I'd watch out of curiosity. More realistically, he might get one special episode.
>>150385223Maybe they could go back to the Dobie Gillis inspiration, and have them be in high school by day, out solving mysteries by night.
>>150385223I'd like seeing him show up every so often in Coolsville
>>150385032>A line of Scrappy-Doos trying to roughhouse a "monster" as they duck to avoid tomatoes and booing>"The Scrappys are best ignored.">A line of Mikes trying to offer money and gold watches in an unemployment line>"And who's that guy?"
>>150385019I wonder if there's anyone else that's been deleted from Scoob lore or that's in another incarnation that could fit the bill.
>>150385282>Mike knows social-fu and is the main reason why the gang has a good reputationChecks out.
>>150385019Maybe one of the Shaggy clones?
