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Are they superior Batgirls to Barbara Gordon?
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yeah
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>>150359608
Steph it’s the only good Batgirl.
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>>150359608
>dumb and dumber
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>>150360190
One brain cell shared between them, and that's why I love them
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>>150360190
Cain isn't stupid, she's stunted by lack of education
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>>150359608
Yes.
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>>150359608
All Batgirls are best Batgirl, though your favorite my vary.
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>>150359608
Honestly, yes, yes they are. Cassandra is just one of the best female characters period, and even Stephanie is a better Batgirl than Barbara because she doesn't have to fake youthful energy and innocence, she has it naturally. Only actual reason to prefer Barbara is nostalgia for a time period that never really existed.
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I don't like Steph's Batgirl outfit. If she ever becomes Batgirl again, she should get a costume overhaul.
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>>150360190
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>>150361786
which one?
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>>150363052
One she had in her solo. I guess I forgot she already had a costume revamp cause I've been blocking Batgirls from my mind.
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>>150363368
always though The Batman's Batgirl design would work well for a Steph design. Just give her the spikey Robin hair.
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>>150364181
Anyone here care to make an edit?
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bump
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why so paraplegic
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>>150366506
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>>150366665
She's a big gal.
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>>150366771
No.
Not yet.
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>>150366526
They can find Barbs legs so she's in the chair
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A new thread again?? These are too fast ngl. Good to see but also wondering how much there is to talk about so fast.
>>150359608
Also not a super inspiring OP ngl

Id say they are better dramatically. Cass is more fitting for the modern bat world, while steph fits the role that is associated with batgirl better. But babs is easier entry, tho i think she suffers from her best story being retroactive, and oracle being such a more intresting role.
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>>150367905
Lets be real, ToCA, if it weren't for you posting these threads would probably die within 100 posts most of the time.
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>>150360190
Kek
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>>150367905
What?
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>>150368784
Which part?
>>150367982
Hmm, maybe?
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>>150359608
They shouldn't be lesbians for Chuck Dixon's sake
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>>150369001
They aren't.
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>>150361722
>Cassandra is just one of the best female characters period
Explain
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>>150359608
They passed the test to become Batgirl.
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>>150359608
Tell that to Gookgirlfag.
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>>150370503
Gookgirlfag doesn't like Cass and Steph?
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Cass vs bette.
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>>150361722
>Cassandra is just one of the best female characters period
Nigga, she's one of the most blatant DONUT STEEL characters in DC Comics.
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>>150370503
What?
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>>150371240
You have no idea what this means.
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As much as I love Cass I hate how she always outshines Steph. She may not be the smartest, or the toughest, but goddammit she's trying her best.
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>>150371532
>she's trying her bust
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>>150360190
>>150368002
>samefag
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>>150371591
Pregnancy did the body good
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>>150369001
Batfamily already has their token gay member with Tim, not to mention a token lesbian already if you include Kate.
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>>150371449
>better than Tim, confirmed by Batman
>better than Steph, confirmed by Batman
>cringeass "I WAS RAISED TO BE THE ULTIMATE WEAPON" origin story
>became Batgirl in like a week unlike that bitch Huntress who couldn't cut it
>5'5 hundred pound asian girl
>somehow the greatest martial artist in Gotham despite being a 5'5 hundred pound asian girl
Nah, I'm right
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>>150371928
Cass is JUST the best figther, that's her thing, in that area she's better than everyone else yeah.

And i mean, do you have an issue with batman, a normal man, being able to go up against monsters who can lift semi trucks? You know no man no matter how tall can.
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>>150371532
Steph's fun.
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>>150371928
>it's bad because....it just is ok
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>>150369249
CUTE
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>>150371968
I can make a pass for Batman because he’s a 6’3 mountain of a man. Cass is a short Asian girl.
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>>150372907
It's a comic book.
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I think Batgirl Barb > Oracle Barb and I don't care who knows
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>>150373007
My suspension of disbelief can only go so far after much effort was made to justly Tim and Steph
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>>150372140
>Several logical reasons
>It just is!!!
Gookgirl is only good for a wank, retard. She's objectively a shit tier 00s OC
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>>150371928
So you're attempting to claim an adult male who was the "greatest martial artist in the world" would be LESS of a "DONUT STEEL" OC?
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>>150372907
Yeah that's not making a difference against something that can lift over 100 tons lmao. Or giant man bats . Or shapeshifters. Or people who can go toe to toe to a guy that is faster than a speeding bullet...
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>>150373114
It's the same thing repeated four times. Just generic whining that she is a female.
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>>150373155
Damian's the biggest donut steal there is.
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>>150373114
You claimed her backstory is bad beause...it just is ok. You gave no reasons.
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>>150359608
Cass yes.
Steph no.
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>>150373098
I disagree, but i defend your right to say something like that.
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>>150366665
Woah, source?
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>>150373176
Gookgirl retards ignoring reality once again, what a shocker.
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>>150373181
He's actually quite small for his age, but it's okay, he eventually grows up.
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The easiest sign a poster has nothing of worth to say here is if they've made up an obsessively included nickname for a character only they say.
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Are we seriously arguing that a grown ass man who trained himself to the peak of human fitness with techniques that rival the best martial artists in DC is weaker than a 5'5, 100 pound waif? That her bullshittium instincts aren't borderline magic?
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>>150373257
>Only one person can dislike mai waifu ;_;
Retarded gookgirl faggot.
>>150373261
You're in a waifu general populated by 3 faggots who seethe that their waifu isn't successful and isn't acknowledged as da best by anyone but them. What do you think?
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>>150373261
Most people besides dedicated /co/ autists acknowledge that Cass is a typical kung fu asian stereotype with a commonly edgy early 2000s backstory. It's just her design is top tier.
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>>150373261
Do you think that can actually make a difference against literal people who can tank bullets and rip cars with their bare hands?
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>>150373257
Hasnt the guy's posts been deleted constantly now for being spam? Why does he do it, he's like the pole from the spider threads.
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>>150373318
X23 has her exact same backstory. And those are people in your head. Most people don't know any of these characters exist at all.
>>150373344
Yes
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>>150373181
You can't top "son of batman" really
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>>150373334
No that's different because he's a man you see.
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>>150373380
The difference is Laura is widely beloved by more than 3 people and had multiple liked adaptations.
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>>150373448
She's had adaptations. That's really the only difference. And come on trying to argue Cass only has 3 fans is silly. But their backstory is the same lmao
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>>150373448
She was created for one, but idk, that's not really a huge difference, and does quite go against your initital idea. All you're saying is "she's more popular cause she shows up in more adaptations", which sure. But that's not an argument against or for the character meaningfully.
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>>150373290
Going on threads of things only to repeat one word is a mental illness. You're like the schizo from the spiderman threads.
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Somewhat curious so did a poll :)
https://strawpoll.com/jVyG2XEdKZ7
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>>150359608
yes, Barbara is a fucking slut. Correction is needed!!
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>>150373570
They all are. Cass wants to be too
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>>150373225
it is not reality its the DC comics universe, youre a fucking idiot and trying way too hard.

>>150371928
but enough about Damian... Oh wait you just hate her because shes a asian woman.
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>>150373594
I wouldnt say mainstream damian is, even if he is a more...concept shattering character (at least for the alghuls).

The n52 animated film one is absolutely one tho.
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>>150373585
I'll deal with her after im done with Barb dw
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>>150373549
Helena doesn't count
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>>150373635
Id say she does.
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>>150373635
Helena was Batgirl longer than Stephanie was Robin yet the stephfags won't let that go.
I'll trade you. Get the twittershitters to stop crying when she's ignored in the Robin lineups and we can forget that Cass stole her costume from Helena.
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>>150373742
Id just count both, tho at the same time cass has absolutely worn that costume for longer if that's the barometer no? Like she wore that costume for 6 years uninterrupted, then again for 2, and now has been having a modfied version of it again for 5. Atp its cass's costume.
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>>150373778
Also Helena wasn't trying to be the new Batgirl, she was literally trying to replace Batman as at the time he was assumed dead.
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>>150373919
Yeah, do still count her, but i can get someone not doing so.
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>>150373261
If you didn't have a blatant double standard you'd see that Batman is completely fucking unrealistic too. Some NORMAL GUY, no powers at all, "trains hard" for a decade or two and becomes the best in the world in every field at the same time? Give me a fucking break.

They're comic book characters. One is a girl who can kick down the outer wall of a prison. The other is a preposterous polymath. Neither could ever exist in real life. There is no difference.
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>>150374945
It really falls apart in the context of the greater DCU, like he would realistically..be mush by anyone with superpowers.
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>>150375277
Steph as Nightwing is something I didn't know I needed until now.
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>>150371320
>>150375277
Nice
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>>150375339
It is a canon idea, just think it fits well into my future's finest setting.
>>150375828
Thnx
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>>150369337
>>150371240
He probably just means Cass was special made for his goon folder.
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>>150376203
Based
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>>150359608
I'd say so
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Nudists
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>>150377740
based nudeanon
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>>150374945
A man is more believable as an action hero than a twiggy waif. Simple as.
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>>150377740
>>150377779
Sametranny
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>>150359608
They're the most trans/yuri-coded batgirls.
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>>150373083
If you were a REAL Batgirl fan, you'd know Babs STOLE the title herself.
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>>150359608
made for being BLACKED by Cass's half brother/cousin
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>>150379188
>Steph is gonna get RACkED by Cass' brother.
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>>150373371
What flavor?
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>>150366665
Babs once got xbox-huge to fight Bane in an AU.
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>>150373215
Commission i got from https://x.com/encariah1
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New Comm.
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>>150380139
Kon looking like he's about spend the next 20 minutes talking about how he's totally gonna get around to restoring the Camaro he's had sitting in the backyard for 7 years now.
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>>150380259
He looks like doomguy
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>>150376203
Your seething at this fictional character is not normal.
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>>150380259
Hah, i can see it, tho is it a reference to something?
>>150380287
Will happen when you mix clark and lex genes.
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REminder
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>>150381965
This kills the shippers
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>>150373198
But why though?
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>>150381965
delete this
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>>150359608
Kinda. Here's the thing, I kinda feel like Barbara doesn't really bring much to the table as a costumed vigilante. There's nothing she can reasonably do on that front that the others can't do significantly better. She's smart and good with tech, but she doesn't actually need to physically be on the scene in order to help with that. The real issue with Barbara is that she was always more useful as Oracle than as Batgirl, because as Batgirl she's arguably not even better than Steph.

Funnily enough, Tim is in the same boat as the least physically talented Robin. His main strength is his ability as a detective, but he'll never be as physically gifted as the others.

Dick is the super agrobat and a generally superior gymnast compared to Barbara.
Cassandra is the most talented martial artist, but can't do anything else nearly as well so fighting is literally all she's good for.
Jason... Okay, to be honest, I don't really know what Jason excels at. He's just the most violent one and the one most willing to kill.
Damien is Jason Lite except he does try to adhere to Bruce's code.
Stephanie is kinda whatever but she's the bubbly comic relief.

Bruce is the one who's good at everything, the one who's dedicated every second of his life to honing his mind and body. He's not as talented in martial arts as Cassandra, not as athletically gifted as Dick, and I think Tim has the potential to be the better detective, but Bruce is an omnidisciplinary ubermensch who can basically do a bit of everything, and also be really good at anything he sets his mind to. Not the best, but there's probably no non-powered entity who's as good of an all-rounder as he is.
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>>150385037
Tbh, Tim is very much barbara with a more narratively relevant origin/motivation. Its why i make the future one also become oracle, and generally their character arcs are fairly parell. I think what does drag babs as batgirl below for me is the lack of batgirl stories that really explore her as a character. Ofc, not the case as oracle cause she got a ton of character introspective stuff during her tenure.
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Cass should be black bat. Steph batgirl
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>>150387514
Steph should get with Cass’s brother
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>>150387514
gookgirl and used goods blonde whore should be killed off in an event. Violently.
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>>150385037
>More anti babs headcanon
Your shit tier OCs aren't better than her.
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>>150381965
And just like that, half the reason to make these shit generals is gone. They need to shit on trannies so the characters are fully disowned.
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>>150380550
Fuck off retard.
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>>150373594
>R-Racist!!!
Limp-wristed faggot. Be a cock garbling weeb somewhere else.
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>>150387835
Who had the better time?
Babs, with Joker’s henchmen, after she was hit and paralyzed?
Or Steph, at the canines up mercy of Black Mask and his many tools?
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>>150387514
Why?
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>>150387624
The other girl in the trio is already on the BLACKED list
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>>150388396
You think she’ll hook up with Kenji?
Will Cass be on the other side touching herself as she listens to them?
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>>150388461
Cass likes to watch
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>>150388700
Based “masturbating to her brother and that new girl” Cass.
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I like one of the newer batgirls for what she is.
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>>150387959
>spam post got deleted
kek
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Never posted this did i, the second part to that shared batman AU
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>>150389460
Batman, but a mecha otaku.
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>>150390025
That one's meant to be babs.She's wearing her dad's batmech, remmeber that lol.
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>>150376402
hmm
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>>150373261
>trained himself to the peak of human fitness with techniques that rival the best martial artists in DC
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Has anyone drawn them dressed as Chun-Li and Cammy White?
That's like the other popular AFWF yuri pairing I can think of
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They have a personality outside of being in a wheelchair so
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>>150371636
Nice
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>>150385037
>Funnily enough, Tim is in the same boat as the least physically talented Robin. His main strength is his ability as a detective, but he'll never be as physically gifted as the others.
He's physically stronger than Damian and Steph, and while he may not be a brick shithouse like Jason or as acrobatic as Dick, to say he's the least physically gifted Robin is simply not true.
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Which Batgirls are least and most likely to make fun of my small pp?
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>>150393374
most: steph
least: cass (unless she's around steph)
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>>150393374
Cass has no language to do so
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>>150393374
>when they see your small pp
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>>150392297
Instead of jealousy, wouldn’t Harper Row be very happy to be viewing Steph’s big bust?
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>>150389460
Duke ready to pin down blondie.
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>>150395215
unga bunga cass
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>>150395300
Cavewoman cass is quite fun.
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>>150392813
>He's physically stronger than Damian
I doubt it after Damian aged up.
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>>150396492
Tbh, damian and tim's heights are all over the place, sometimes they're both really really short.
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>>150366526
>not just her legs falling out
wasted potential
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>>150371532
I thought part of the point of their original dynamic was that they filled in each other's gap a fair bit.
Like Cass was one of the most physically capable members of the Batfamily, but she was one of the weirdest, without much understanding of basic human interaction, or the ability to read, while Steph who had one of the most down to earth backgrounds could fill in for those shortcomings
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>>150397466
Yep that is the point.
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>>150397167
Cute
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>>150364277
Please
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>no rape kino of either of them
Barbara still unmatched
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>>150396654
Damian being short makes sense because it was frequently noted how much taller Jon was despite being several years older. Tim was tall for age at his debut (5'6 at 14) so he'd realistically be at least 6 feet at his current age.
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>>150398542
What
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>>150398542
Does War Games count?
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>>150400081
Definitely.
Steph was blacked Masked
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>>150400081
No
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>>150400081
Who knows?
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