Why does the Beavis and Butt-Head parody of "It's a Wonderful Life" get seen as a fun episode while the FOP parody is hated and treated as the moment the show jumped the shark? They both do the same thing.
>>150373066Because people who watch children's cartoons are autistic spergs who cry whenever any character has shitty things happen to them
>>150373066because Beavis and Butt-Head actually deserved it
>>150373066Because Beavis and Butt-Head are cool, and FoP is gay and created LSMark
>>150373066Isn't this the episode where Timmy finds out everyone is better off without him and the only good he brings to his world is purpose and love to his parents yet the premise of the series is that Timmy's parents are always absent and even when they're around they ignore him?
>>150373066This is a stock cartoon plot. Johnny Bravo did the same.
>>150373066I legit never hated this episode as a kid and I had autism.
>>150373066Because shit like Francis would actually be a nice person if Timmy was never born is just retarded
>>150373066Because you're not supposed to think Beavis and Butthead as good peopleTimmy's flawed but he's meant to be relatable to a kid who doesn't want to actually be bad
The concept of "everyone being better off without you existing" as a wonderful life is incredibly outplayed. The simpsons did their own version of this as well. I feel like family guy also did.
>>150374376The Nostalgia Critic version was the funniest
>>150374053At least the B&B parody knew to ground itself. It didn't say Todd became a philanthropist or Daria was the modern day Jane Austen if Butthead never existed. >>150374223This too. At the end of the day, Butthead causes most of his own suffering and you can relate to every other character who has to deal with him and Beavis. Even Todd you can understand after a while. While at least with the start of FOP, Timmy's meant to be the character every kid watching was supposed to relate to. They were supposed to think it was cool to watch a miserable kid get wish-granting fairies make his life better because they could imagine themselves as Timmy. The moment the show decides he's actually a nightmare kid who makes everyone around him worse just by existing, the whole premise becomes retarded.
This episode was made after Channel Chasers? weird, i thought it was from the first few seasons
Internet weirdoes don't take Buffcoat and Beaver seriously
>>150373269No his parents were richer and happier without him because they instead had the daughter they always wantedTimmy literally the world worse just by existing
>>150374910They do, but none of them see those two as self-inserts in the same way FOPfags saw Timmy.
>>150373066Season 5 as a whole did this thing where Timmy was repeatedly emasculated and browbeaten for being "le selfish". This episode was merely one of those. It makes no sense because there are episodes where Timmy goes above and beyond to help someone (Catman, the Tootie birthday episode) that are conveniently forgotten after but the show treats selfish Timmy as some hard truth. Season 6 leaned even harder into this and that's when I dropped the show.
>>150374376>>150373276This honestly feels more played out than the ones where it is played straight.>>150374839Also, it has a confusing point in the end. Timmy had a change of heart which turns out to be a secret test of character only for him to make the "selfish choice" again.
>>150373066You don't actually have this question. You don't actually think these shows are comparable in tone. You just made this dog shit smart ass bait thread on purpose.
>>150376542Sounds like it's not a wonderful life for you.
>>150375545Oh I must've mixed that with the episode where the dad was mad at Dinkleburg and realized that he had a son and Dinkleburg didn't. So the OP episode is somehow worse than I remember.>Jorgen tells Timmy that unless he can find someone whose life is worse off without him, Timmy will have to go to "a place where all kids who wished they were never born" go. >Timmy is able to grab Jorgen's wand, however, upon reflection, he does decide that everyone is better off without him, and offers to voluntarily go to the place Jorgen describes. It is then that Jorgen reveals this has all been a test, or rather a lesson, to teach Timmy that good deeds are not done for praise, but because it's the right thing to do.Imagine learning a simple lesson and that you're also universally making everyone's lives worse. And the show actively proves this throughout the series.
>>150377323>It is then that Jorgen reveals this has all been a test, or rather a lesson, to teach Timmy that good deeds are not done for praise, but because it's the right thing to do.That doesn't really have any to do with being shown an alternate timeline where everyone is happier because of your non-existentance. If everyone else is better off without Timmy, what is the point of him being brought back to existence when his growth is allowing Jorgen to take him away?
>>150375545Wrong, they don't have a daughter. They're rich and have free time but they keep yelling about "nothing fills the void" that's there because they don't have a child.
>>150377412>Wrong, they don't have a daughter. They're rich and have free time but they keep yelling about "nothing fills the void" that's there because they don't have a child.No, they had a daughter.
>>150373066It's a Wishful Life does the concept better than it's a Wonderful Life. Wonderful Life says "nooo, don't kill yourself, look how much you not being around would worsen the lives of others" which would cause someone on the brink to say "good, they're why I want to kill myself, I hope my death really does fuck them up". Wishful Life teaches children that your life has value because you are you, even if your existence inconveniences others you are a person who deserves to live your life. It is a really positive message for children>>150377412They have a daughter who is an actress, that's where the money comes from
>>150373066We're talking about this?
Most of the people talking about FoP on the internet are Latinx who don’t fully understand the difference between cartoons and real people
>>150373090something something mr enter
>>150373227what would the world be like if ls mark watched beavis and butthead instead
>>150373066Do we have a wish for this sorta thing?
>>150377396The episode communicated it poorly but the idea was it wasn't the actual reality.
>>150373066Havent seen either of those episodes but beavis and butthead are assholes and timmy is just a sad kid. So it makes sense that a beavis and butthead episode would subvert it. Its more in line with the tone of the show
>>150377396The idea is that Jorgen wanted for Timmy to be so enraged at the possibility of knowing his mere existence was a blight on everyone he met, that he would be ready to actually ruin their 'good lives'. this is also why he essentially let timmy take his wand, Jorgen wanted to see what Timmy would do.by recognizing its not fair or him to ruin their lives and accepting that world, as Jorgen put it, Timmy did the greatest good deed of them all.
>>150375545except thats not true. it was a test. even if Timmy wasnt born, NONE of the lives we saw there would actually occur, they were just there as part of the test to enrage timmy up, and see if he would be as selfish as to ruin their lives in revenge if given a chance, which he didnt.
>>150382348>>150382401This is why Timmy's Secret wish is so hated.
>>150377926It's a wonderful life was a proto Twilight Zone episode and science fiction. The MC seems miserable because Jimmy Stewart was unstable from all the bomber missions and needed to be offered sex. He's a nice guy, buy.
>>150382546I have a movie the wonderful life guy did a couple years later about a plane
>>150373066Beavis and Butt-Head would get Fairly OddParents.
>>150381301How? The actual movie is that dark. The townspeople use George and his love interest keeps him in the small town. Somehow this guy is the only person in town who understands the MC has ambition.>>150382348I dunno anon, conservative movies are that dark.
>>150385234George also "uses" the townspeople and his wife to placate his insecurities
>>150385277Capra and Stewart served in the War and made films about the War. The context is George supposed to stay behind to help the supply lines and not be a hero which was true for WW2. The parody doesn't work because Butch Hartman looks like the bully who got all the women
