I suddenly remember how many cartoons made brocolli seem like a shitty horrible tasting vegetable.Did Brocolli actually taste bad or was it more that your parents were shitty cooks or because they forced you to eat it? I remember liking it back then.
My parents are Asian so I fucking loved broccoli as a kid
>>150393089People just overcook it and as a kid you can be sensitive to bitter things. There are also things people try to make you eat wet that taste better dry like spinach.
>>150393089I ate mine but it was either dipped in cheese or heavy on the garlic. It should've been cauliflower I hate that stuff.
>>150393095Same. I grew up eating broccoli just fine. I think a lot of parents just don’t know how to cook veggies so kids think they suck.
>>150393095me too!
>>150393108Cut into florets, toss with oil, stick it on a lined sheet pan and roast at 375 degrees until it gets a nice light brown roast. You don’t need to turn them or anything. Pull out of the oven and sprinkle with salt. It’ll be buttery and delicious.
>steam vegetable>it tastes goodWhy did my parents suck at cooking growing up?I'm honestly going to blame microwaves making everyone lazy
>>150393107my parents served me just plain ass steamed broccoli as a kid. it's fuckin gross. it's actually better by itself instead of steamed. i'll eat it with just about anything than plain steamed.
>>150393089It did use to taste bad and farmers worked to improve the taste because of the bad rep.
>>150393089they actually had to change the broccoli pizza scene in inside out in japan, because broccoli isnt stigmatized thereit was changed to a bell pepper pizza, which is downright mundane in the US
>>150393123>Brussel sprout Nasty when boiled or steamed, delicious when fried on the pan
>>150393123Most veggies are awesome roasted. Just cut the butts off, cut them in half, toss with oil, stick on a lined baking sheet flat side down, roast at 375. Check them every now and then with a fork. The fork should go in easily and the bottom should be a dark brown. Pull them out of the oven and toss with salt and pepper or sprinkle Parmesan cheese on them. Alternatively you could make a glaze of balsamic and honey to toss them with after.
>>150393089A lot of kids grow up with parents who don’t know how to cook or they buy shitty frozen vegetables.
>>150393144the animators being about 20 years out of date is to blame like mentioned >>150393138food generally tastes worse the further back you go, for a multitude of reasonsand a lot of animators were still living mentally in the 70s, when vegetables and ways to cook them werent nearly as widespreadpopeye liking spinach is a pretty extreme example, since most people assume spinach tastes finebut eating 1940s-era canned spinach straight out of the can is every bit as horrendous as the cartoon characters, sans popeye, think it is
>>150393138Fuck thatAs if American food can't get any more infantile, now even Brussels sprouts taste like mc slop.
>>150393117>>150393119>>150393123What flavor? It's basically organic tofu, you're supposed to mix it into stew, not eat it on it's own?
>>150393176question. would you eat baby food broccoli if it tasted like a burger but it tasted like a burger? because they already have that and you refuse it
>>150393095Same, they used to put butter and pepper on it so it actually tasted good. Beansprouts are good too.
>t. 1928
You gotta remember that the people writing the cartoons in the 90's and early 00's were kids themselves in the 60's and 70's, a period of time when America apparently just forgot how to cook. Veggies were boiled into mush, meat was charred into cinder, and a salad was anything that has mayonnaise in it.
>>150393089disgusting plant matter for stupid goyim.full of toxic plant chemicals and anti-nutrients.basically pigfeed for stupid goy cattle.
>>150393095I dunno fag, steamed broccoli with butter and salt is perfectly tasty. I fail to see how adding it to a meal will make a difference overall to a kid.
>>150393095asian kids hate peppers though
>>150393089This episode made broccoli look so fucking scrumptious, especially when the kids seasoned them and added cheese and other shit. I actually begged my parents to incorporate it into dinner as a result.
>>150393089I remember brushing the broccoli hate as some weird cartoon joke I wasn't old enough to understand. Like the "Eat at Jo's" gag in looney tunes. But then again I liked broccoli. Mostly because I enjoyed imagining my self as a giant eating tiny trees.
>>150393089What's funnier is they did it to push CAULIFLOWER insteadThey're the reason we now have cauliflower "steaks", cauliflower "rice" and cauliflower pizza crusts
I think one of the only classic "Eww veggies are gross" stereotypes that are actually valid is brussel sprouts, because there's apparently some chemical that can be released in the cooking process that only some people can taste because of some gene thing.
>there has been so litte veggies in american school lunches in the past 20 years that people forgot how bad they tasted
>>150393907Oh they absolutely can taste like ass, especially if they get mass cooked like at a school cafeteria.They just don't HAVE to taste bad.
>>150393874>some people can taste because of some gene thing.Same for olives. A had a friend explain it to me that he has that gene that makes olives taste like soap because humans technically shouldn't be eating them.
>>150393941>because humans technically shouldn't be eating them.Human civilization is built on 3 things, beer, bread and olives I don't know why, but the amount of propaganda against these foundational foodstuffs has been rapidly increasing in the last 10 years
>>150393907>>150393934vegetables will also generally be the most substantial part of the meal, other than grain, simply because its cheapand when meals are getting cooked on the cheap, its unlikely to be prepared in the best waymeat, by virtue of being more expensive and served as a treat, will tend to be prepared more carefullymost people wont think of poorly made sloppy joes, they will think of steakwhile conversely, people will generally think of slimy greens rather than steaming corn chowder
>>150393973>builtI think that was the point he was getting at. Humans made olives edible. Though, I didn't fact check his claim, because I didn't really care one way or the other. I eat olives regardless. Which worked out because he would give me his olives.
>>150393284amerifats never knew how to cook they had to gradually import actual cuisine from other countries to get it right
>>150393828lmao
>>150393095>asian eats a food everyone eatswoah, pretty asian of me right guys?
>>150393973>beer, bread and olivesaside from beer this seems really randomasian civilizations didn't have bread and olive is also only important in europe
>>150393095>My parents are Asianand you're not?
>>150393089When the girls (I think it was PPG) put cheese on these MFs and chomped them broccolo-bitches up, I came. Now i love broccoli.
>>150393973all garbage. no wonder you retards are slaves now.
>>150394107>asian civilizations didn't have breadI mean that's just factually wrong, literally every part of Asia had some kind of staple bread. Mantou and bing were extremely important in early Chinese civilization which emerged in the highlands of the northern Chinese plain where wheat and millet cultivation was more easy that rice cultivation, and they're still widely consumed today.
>>150393089I could never related to the anti-veggie episodes in cartoons since I loved to eat them as a kid.>>150393140I like to roast them with spices in the oven until the outside's a little crispy, personally.
>>150393128For broccoli or cauliflower?
>>150393198> if it tasted like a burger but it tasted like a burger?Did you have a stroke?
>>150393089it probably tastes bland as fuck on its own but tastes pretty good in teriyaki chicken
>>150393388That was weird to me too. I am Asian and I grew up eating both broccoli and bell peppers and never had complaints about either.
>>150393866No, vegetarians and especially gluten free fads are the reason we see all those things.
>>150393284This actually doesn't look horrible, esp. compared to some of them. Reminds me though of Taste Of Home magazine where half the recipes call for campbell's cream Of mushroom.>>150393866 That's mostly as a carb substitute.
>>150394077America is still a pretty new country comparatively so the fact that cities like New York became one of the culinary epicenters of the world is pretty impressive. The US was always a cultural melting pot so having multicultural influences is on brand. Britain on the other hand fought wars and occupied land for spices and have done dick all with it.
>>150394977Either but cauliflower will turn out better. It caramelizes and gets kind of sweet and nutty.Broccoli I usually just steam and then toss with whatever else I’m cooking so the bushy bit absorbs the flavor. They’re great sauce/juice sponges.
>>150395075The worst are the savory jello recipes with like meat and peas in a jello mold with mayo, or the recipes that call for a lot of mayonnaise like it’s some sort of filling.I wonder if people actually cooked half this shit or if it was just for interesting book pictures.
>>150393131weird, that's the only way i'll eat broccoli
>>150393131Steamed broccoli is great, bro. I love it with salmon and rice
>>150393089Lot of 90s kids grew up with young, gen X parents who smoked and partied a lot while never learning how to cook properly, because their parents were boomers who didn't teach them shit and did everything wrong with the confidence of a seasoned expert. Gave us multiple generations of overconfident wannabe macho retards who tell you they're such amazing griller, and then serve up dry, leathery, well-done steaks.These people have only every known shitting cooking and they grew up at a time where being fussy about your food got your ass beaten or sent to bed without anything else to eat. The infamous boomer "character building" mindset that kids should just do what they're told because it's good for them, instead of understanding that their cooking is terrible and disgusting to the tastebuds of a child, who doesn't have a lifetime of cigarettes and giving up on doing any better telling them that it's normal for food to taste terrible.People from slightly older generations that would make all these "EW BROCCOLI!!" cartoons remember having a similar experience, but then they grew up into tasteless adults and now it's one of those>haha everyone goes through this. This is normal and common and there's no real issue. Kids are just like that and it's universal and relatable! haha!kind of jokes that is actually very depressing and really just shows how fucked up we are as a culture. Like the boomer who tells you his parents beat the shit out of him and he turned out fine, while very obviously not being fine in any way.
>>150395255I can do without the peas and mayo but meat jello sounds pretty good, like the jelly you get on the bottom when you throw leftover rotisserie chicken in the fridge. Generally those recipe books were a gimmick to get people to use more product X.>>150395299NTA but it tends to get all the flavor cooked out of it. Sometimes white people really don't season their food.
>>150394101Nah, anon, this is legit. Broccoli is one where caucasian and black parents have actually received culture shock seeing how their kids Asian friends like it.
>>150393089The landscape of homecooked meals was a frightening thing in post-war America, and we never really recovered until recently, now that millennials have actually learned to take inspiration from non-white chefs.
>>150393934Children eat 5 meals out of 7 at school.
I eat broccoli raw sometimes when I'm lazy but I prefer it steamed with steamed potatoes, rapeseed oil and salt. I buy organic broccoli too because I read they tend to absorb a lot of the pesticides and they do taste better.
>>150393973That is only mediterranean/middle east civilization, anon
>>150393089Most folks don't know how to cook broccoli, especially in the 90s before the internet really took off.
>>150395382Would you consider your parents being bad cooks as child abuse?
I have this crazy theory that maybe a lot of people just don't like the taste of broccoli regardless of how it's prepared or what generation they grew up in.
>>150394335Adopted.>>150393095My dad is half Asian and my mum is from Italy so vegetables and fish all day, bruh. I cooked dinner last night, bibimmyeon with blue-cooked cabbage, peppers, turnip greens, morkovcha (you can probably guess what sort of Asian my grandma is from that), yellow squash and red cabbage with a side of roasted mackerel. The only way I don't like veg is roasted.>>150393089I never understood this. I liked pretty much all vegetables as a kid. Beef was the bane of my existence, though. I hated beef fat on steaks, anything beef flavoured (pot/cup noodle and other instant ramen, for example), beef rice etc etc etcJust no.>>150393107When my son was a baby, he liked pureed spinach but pureed broccoli made him wince and turn away from the spoon. He would make faces at pureed cauliflower but still open his mouth for more so we started combining the two at various ratios to find the maximum amount of broccoli he would tolerate then slowly started to introduce more and more of it into the mix until he would eat broccoli. Now at eight years old, he enjoys broccoli, unaware how we Stockholm-Syndromed him into eating it. The only common vegetable he won't eat are button and oyster mushrooms. He'll eat king oyster and he'll eat button if I cook it as a swap-in for the meat in a cheesesteak.
>>150395635You are living in a direct successor civilization
>>150396372How do you feel about restaurants liking to fry their chicken and fries in beef fat now?
>>150396183broccoli doesn't have a very aggressive taste especially if cooked, it's be like if you didn't like potatoes, yes it's possible but very unlikely
>>150393089>Did Brocolli actually taste bad or was it more that your parents were shitty cooks or because they forced you to eat it?Mostly this, was just talking with my bro last night about how our mom used to make horribly bland boiled broccoli that was impossible to eat. Good American Chinese restaurants do broccoli well and made me enjoy it (more authentic Chinese broccoli, Gai Lan, is different, no big florets). So when you're forced to eat poorly prepared broccoli as a kid, you think of it as something terrible.
>>150396465Also some American Chinese places just cut off the florets completely to treat it more like Chinese broccoli. I remember my dad thinking a place ripped him off or pranked him because he ordered "Chinese broccoli" and got nothing but stems.
>>150393089I ate everything as a kid and I did not even understood the concept of picky eaters, there was like, 2 or 3 foods I disliked and my parents let them to eat something else. Then when I grew up, moved out and started making food for myself I got shocked by realizing that they were all very skilled cooks, just as my grandparents too and not everyone can cook. I just thought that getting some vegetables from the garden and a batch of meat from the freezer and combining them to a three course meal was just a basic life skill that everybody knows, like how to read and write or ride a bike.
>>150395382Sounds like an American problem. I'm >>150396372. I didn't grow up with no-cookin-ass American parents, even though my dad is half American. >>150394514>literally every part of Asia had some kind of staple breadThat's simply not true unless you want to argue that lontong is bread. What's the "staple bread" of pre-European contact Japan? Vietnam? Thailand? Even Malaysia never developed one of their own, simply adopting a foreign one (roti canai). Burma has their weird pita, which they inexplicably call naan (that shit is pita as fuck, though) but that's just about the only native bread in Asia outside of South Asia, Central Asia and China. The rest of the East and Southeast simply adopted foreign breads around the mid 19th century at the absolute earliest outside of the Spanish Philippines (roti canai was brought to Indomalaysia by Indian workers during the British Malaya period in the mid 1800s).
>>150396405I don't mind it. I actually roasted a meatloaf a last week, collected the tallow to use some for the gravy and used the rest the other day for beef rice. Note that I said "hated". Past tense. I like beef now. Still don't like beef cup noodles, though.
>>150393089it was the opposite the moral of these was always ended in"eat them" in op's image for example the girls defeat them by learning to eat them
>>150395673Maybe a little bit. It's more clueless and ignorant than malicious. Plus the sort of parents who cook like shit tend to not take criticism well and also don't trust a child to know what "good" cooking is.
>>150396545>Sounds like an American problem.Figured it was pretty obvious that it was. Boomers and Gen Xers are an American thing, specifically.
>>150393973>Beer Yeah, for a couple places>BreadYeah pretty good effects depending on the country>OlivesHuh?Honestly anon, you're sounding like a huge Gureko-romanfag anon
>>150393089I always liked broccoli and still do.
>>150393973>olivesMediterraneans are not a valid source of food history.
>>150394107>>150396545I can assure you my friend that asian civilizations did have bread, they were just not baked like most traditional breads at the time. They were either mainly steamed or fried like the humble steamed bun and the deep fried chinese cruller. Both are wheat based and not rice based, though some could argue the chinese cruller is like a donut but i would disagree since it's more airier than a donut and predates the actual "donut" by quite a long time. Donuts tend to be a bit more densely packed together and the chinese cruller is a lot more "airier">Burma has their weird pita, which they inexplicably call naan (that shit is pita as fuck, though)Lol it is kinda but it's really just a naan like the Indian one. We most likely ended up acquiring it probably from Indian people when the British moved a lot of different ethnic groups around in the area so a lot of Indian people got stationed in Burma so that's probably why we call it naan, we have a few Indian loanwords for some things as a result of this with "aloo" meaning potato in both Burmese and Indian languages. Difference between our Burmese "nanbya" and Indian naan is that our Burmese one is generally more softer due to mostly being heated on a pan or wok and usually pressed down or weighted rather than stuck onto the indoor of a tandoor oven and baked. So it is like a pita but it's not baked like one weirdly if it makes sense, still you're not wrong to compare it to one.But other than that keep up the good work on the bread research.
>>150393095Broccoli in Chinese takeout is one of the best parts
>>150396372>Asian dad>Italian mumTruly a blessed upbringing anon, you would have had such delicious food and never gone hungry in that household. It would have been doubly illegal for a child of those backgrounds to go hungry.
>>150393089Was never a big fan of broccoli or cauliflower, but my mom used them as the default veggie during dinner for a long time. Was kind of pissed when I discovered brussel sprouts and how good they are (especially grilled or fondue), those could've been the de-facto veggie growing up and I had to suffer through broccoli.
>>150396383We be living in the land of corn, anon, even your mutt ass.
>>150393089I fell for the propaganda, plus the only broccoli I ever tasted was the school cafeteria's, and needless to say it was horrible.
>>150399346brussel sprouts are more expensive though
>>150393089Broccoli has become my favorite veggie. Just a little oil and garlic and it’s suddenly 10/10 delicious.
>>150393089>>150393129Boomer didn't know how to cook vegetables. Every single vegetable was boiled until it was near mush.Nobody sauteed, steamed, or oven baked veges.
>>150399346Brussel sprouts have an actual difference in the last 15 years or so, which is that they were finally bread to be less pungent and slightly sweeter.Brussel sprouts of my childhood fucking REEKED. I mean absolutely the strongest bitter cabbage smell.Brussel sprouts now have a fragrant, mouth watering smell, especially when rubbed with oil and cooked in the oven until the outer leaves are just becoming crispy. The insides steam and become almost creamy.
>>150399607Is that so? What kind of Brussel Sprouts do you get? I remember someone I knew always getting themselves microwave steamed Brussel Sprouts. And they smelled putrid.
>>150399346The problem with brussel sprouts is that the longer you cooked them, the more bitter they become which is probably where the dislike of it comes from. So if you just have bland brussel sprouts with no seasoning or sauce, then yeah no wonder kids are going to hate it
>>150399756Just the fresh ones available in the fresh vegetable area at Kroger. They usually sell them in mesh bags.As for the breeding part: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/10/30/773457637/from-culinary-dud-to-stud-how-dutch-plant-breeders-built-our-brussels-sprouts-bohttps://www.iowafarmbureau.com/Article/Its-not-your-imagination-brussels-sprouts-do-taste-better-How-gene-editing-is-changing-how-we-grow-and-eat-food>About 30 years ago, a Dutch scientist identified the chemicals that made brussels sprouts bitter. He selected seed varieties with lower levels of the bitter chemicals and bred new high-yielding varieties that tasted less bitter.It obviously took a while for that to both come to market and become a hit in restaurants and then spread out. I remember about 15 years ago you'd almost never catch roasted brussel sprouts on a menu, now its everywhere.
>>150393095Asians fry vegetables after boiling. Americans just steam or boil. Weird since Asians love to use steam to make food.
>>150393089It's just a cliche that caught on. There's not a deeper meaning to it.
>>150399502This, discovering that healthy food isn't inherently disgusting is like a rite of passage for Americunts.
>>150393089Growing up, I hated broccoli because my mom would boil the heck out of it and not add any seasoning. It wasn't until I was out cooking on my own that I learned it should be steamed and you can add stuff like grated Parmesan.
>>150395501post what war?
>>150393089don't nuke it and put some kinda seasoning on it, and you're good. i'd usually dip mine in parmesan or onions sauce w/ a little pepper and garlic>>150393388more valid honestly, bell peppers are fucking nasty. you can smell them through a container. >>150393941I thought that was cilantro??
>>150402225Civil War. Part of the failed reconstruction was a loss of nearly all cooking knowledge.
>>150393866Huh?? I thought that was like, fad diet shit.
>>150396425If you undercook it it can be bitter and if you overcook it, it tastes gross. Same with brussels sprouts and most other related veggies.
>>150402647Please elaborate, this sounds genuinely interesting to me.
>>150402874Just schizo babble about how white people can't cook.
>>150393150Depending on how far your non-frozen produce had to travel to get to you, frozen produce can technically be more fresh than raw. Canned veg is what I avoid. Locking something in unseasoned liquid for weeks fucks with texture.
>>150393089>>150399346I liked most vegetables as a kid, even boiled and steamed but mom made boiled/steamed brussel sprouts and there's something uniquely bad about it where it was one of the first foods I thought was genuinely disgusting
>>150393089Surprised it hasn't been posted yet.
>>150403049You might have the gene to taste https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylthiocarbamide
>>150393089I spent my childhood watching cartoons telling me broccoli, asparagus and brussel sprouts were all awful. Imagine my surprise when I actually cooked them that they ended up fucking amazing. I have a feeling a lot of boomer cartoonists Moms would just boil them with no seasonings until it was a flavorless mash
>>150403914I get how Asparagus can be unpleasant due to the texture that can be sort of stringy, but I never got the complaint about flavor. Asparagus soup taste fucking amazing.
>>150395038Yeah but you’re not in Japan you’re in the west where it’s more likely to be in your diet
>>150393089>Well then, my goal becomes clear! The broccoli must DIE!*dramatic music sting*
