Alright, who the FUCK was it?Which one of you motherfuckers told me to watch this?I'm suing you for emotional damage because holy shit, I've never been more stressed out watching something.
>>150395465It was mostly the start of season 1 and the last 3-4 episodes of season 2.Felt like I was gonna throw up from the tension.If they were trying to make their own NGE (I saw those nerv stickers) then they fucking nailed that feeling of pure anxiety like there's a black hole in your stomach.But also fuuuck them for doing that.That being said MIST a best.And FUCK Maddie.
>>150395465It's good
>>150395465You had a strong emotional reaction so that's a good piece of media
>>150395465yeah it was pretty brutal
>>150395465Yeah it was an existential nightmare, but one of the better endings out there imo.Such a shame basically no one knows this show exists since it got shicanned so hard by the higher ups.
>>150395465MIST was such a fucking cuntIts her fault that Caspian had to upload Its her fault that Caspian almost died to Safe Search because she decided not to show up to the fight until the last possible second so she could keep Caspian as a pet for 20 yearsShe tried to illegally upload David, killing his organic body and risking permanent deletion for himI'm glad she got cucked
>>150396567>t. popeMIST did literally nothing wrongFUCK fleshbagsFUCK Maddie
>>150395465>Oh no!!! A piece of art evoked an actual mature emotion out of me, as was intended!>I’ve only ever consumed media as mindless unengaging entertainment >Now I’m confused and scared because I am experiencing complex thoughts and feelings!!Many such cases among zoomies. I’m proud of you, OP. You’ve taken one small step towards growing up.
>>150396630When did I say I didn't like it?It's called a joke, grow up.
And I'd never had the feeling I was watching techbro propaganda before. But then I watched the second half of season 2.
>>150396830how is it propaganda in any way?
>>150395465It was me anon. I told you to watch Pantheon! Now go watch Lain, Vivy and Ghost in the Shell.
>>150396854>We should destroy these ancient ruins so we can build a space elevator >Fuck the native people living here who don't want it>Why should we build the elevator literally anywhere else>You think those ruins and dead people are more important than AIs
>>150396963Well I watched Lain and GiTS decades ago already.What the hell is vivy?
>>150396973???And?You do know that's not the show's take on it, right?You do realize it's fiction?When the joker kills people it doesn't the writers are like "YES WE THINK KILLING PEOPLE IS GOOD ACTUALLY".Please say sike right now, anon.
>>150396997Maddie was giving ground on the negotiations before Safe Search attackedShe said that the remaining humans didn't think the UIs and Computer AIs were as valuable as living humans or the long ancient dead people, and once she proved that the negotiating committee all held those beliefs she was going to give up those ruins
>>150395465i know it's gonna sound sarcastic or cringy but i actually legitimately clapped when it endedlike just genuinelynever felt like that before
>>150397097And that was just one of an infinite amount of Maddies.The one who then after that went on full psycho.You know that right.
>>150396975>vivyVivy flourite eyes song.and go watch lain again
>>150396997>When the joker kills people it doesn't the writers are like "YES WE THINK KILLING PEOPLE IS GOOD ACTUALLY".Because when the Joker kills people it means the writers are like "Look how evil and edgy we can make the Joker this time!" in a game of mutual one-upsmanship with other writers.
>>150397173I'm gonna be honest with you chief, it looks like pure ass from a glance.You're gonna need to sell me on that.
>>150397269>a glanceUp your attention span. It's about an android singer trying to learn how to sing with real passion and prevent the machine uprising thanks to a time traveling helper bot. If you invest in it, it's a very emotional journey. If you don't, oh well.Also watch Nier Automata and Ergo Proxy
>>150397345>Up your attention spanI mean visually.>android singer trying to learn how to sing with real passionOkay not doing a great job so far.>prevent the machine uprising thanks to a time traveling helper botHmm, that sounds better but that first part I don't know.>watch Nier AutomataNo thanks, the anime was ass.I played all the routes of the game and the og nier and drakengard already.>Ergo ProxyAlso watched already.
>>150397399>Hmm, that sounds better but that first part I don't know.To each their own.If you've also seen seen Eva then the only other anime I can recommend is Memories. Have you seen the Animatrix and Cyberpunk Edgerunners?
>>150397503Yep saw all of those also.I feel like it's almost guaranteed everyone interested in watching this and watching both seasons would have at least seen eva and lain and ghost in the shell.And if they've already seen those then it's likely they've seen the others too since they intersect with their interests.And yes I've seen texhnolyze also.
>>150397721Impressive, very nice. There's a new anime out about androids running a hotel after humans went extinct on Earth. Check it out.
>>150395465My only complaint is how many things got sidelined by the ending.>holstrom being built up all this time>caspian just beats him within like 3 (?) minutes of being uploaded easily>everything built up with the black miss marvel i think joey was her name for multiple episodes>does 2 attacks on holstrom before never seen again>everything built up with the iranian and israeli ui guys for multiple episodes>merged into a prism and do 2 attacks on holstrom before never seen again>everything built up with renee>lemao offscreened by veerus>everything built up carywait we don't even fucking see cary again after he warns caspian about pope in norwaywhat the fuck man>everything built up with chanda>dies in a throwaway fight like a retard>laurie and her husband>he gets one background scene where he paints and she's never brought up again>maddie's cool fat girl friend>never seen again after episode 1 of season 2Sooo much shit just got dropped or resolved with a whimper despite feeling like they wanted you invested in it.I mean maybe they planned to have more seasons but by like episode 3 of season 2 they were told that it's the final one and they had to rewrite the entire second half?But yeah it just felt kind of unsatisfying.The ending was cool though, just wish it didn't come at the cost of all that.
>>150397721>>150397788Throw in Zegapain.Rewatched it before watching Pantheon and it felt like Pantheon was debating it at times. it's neat, don't let the first episodes fool you into thinking it's generic.
>>150395536>And FUCK Maddie.I want to
>>150398045what a womanlet
>kill yourself so your clone can live in a computerno thanks
i found it boring and lame
>>150398641>brainlet
>>150398094>tries to still her sister's baby fatherhoor
>>150396973yeah that one made no fucking sense. They could have made it anywhere else.
>>150398689>Tries to steal her nephew too
>>150398689I liked her more when she was a rice cooker
>>150398698They already made one, and for it to work they need another one in a specific location to hold up the ringSo they would need to build two more in different locationsWhich still seems better than quibbling over this one locationThey're fucking rich and practically immortal, just fucking wait a little while longer
>>150395465Pantheon was a rollercoaster for sure. I'll never understand why AMC didn't see the potential in airing it on actual TV rather than dumping it exclusively on their brand-new streaming service nobody knows about, but I'm glad the show released at all.
>>150398741yeah which means when they started building the one, they knew the other would have to be over a historic site.
>>150398817It was approved before they started building, they literally said that.The humans went back on the deal after.
>>150399330Or the government approved it without asking the local natives who rightfully said "what the fuck?"
>>150399368What local natives?It's uninhabited.
>>150399368Not their problems if humans can't communicate for shit.
>>150398704Oh god you're right I forgot.What the fuck was her problem?
>>150399889Lack of getting dicked due to no body.
>>150399889She also asked Maddie if she could watch her banging Caspian.She a freak fr fr
For me it's Ellen.The lack of /34/ for this show is disturbing, but I guess that just means I gotta take matters into my own hands and hit up some artists.
>>150398795>I'll never understand why AMC didn't see the potentialCause its shit
>>150397838>everything built up with the black miss marvel i think joey was her name for multiple episodes>does 2 attacks on holstrom before never seen again>everything built up with the iranian and israeli ui guys for multiple episodes>merged into a prism and do 2 attacks on holstrom before never seen againThey're presumably dead to something like Safe Search since the UIs call Caspian the Last of the Original Pantheon
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This show won't age well simply because the book was written before AIs became as advanced as they now are so the author thought his story would be more plausible if he used brain scans of people instead of purely synthetic intelligence.
>>150403809Well, time will tell... but when the “AI” hype train runs out and people have realized that LLMs are pretty useless except for some few (very limited) use cases, the topic of UI may become interesting again.
>>150397399Terminator Zero was actually good. Watch it or don't.
>>150397399Check out Good Night World. It has a false premise in the first episode and the rest of the series will build your anxiety. It has the same themes as of Eva and Lain.
>Pantheon thread>no good sci fi western cartoons to compare so the thread is full of anime recommendationsAt least people aren't recommending Psycho-Pass. I fucking hate that show.
>>150398619you forgot to say forever, also kill yourself but dont copy yourself
>>150401121Impeccable taste
>>150406086Horrendous taste.>noooo it's not my husband it's fake my husband is dead! fuck you maddie! it's not your dad!>maddie loses her dad like 3 times and caspian>lmao maddie my body my rules i'm uploading fuck you bitch you're on your own now hahahaha>proceeds to cyberfuck waxmanWhat a fucking hoor bitch
>>150395465I really enjoyed this cartoon.
>>150395465Oh yeah, I should find downloads of this and check this out after I'm through with Common Side Effects.
>>150395465>look up rule34>it's just ai slopsigh...
>>150407172How ironic.
>>150397838It really feels they were told they only had one more season when they already started working on S2 and decided to fast forward to the end rather than be left on a cliffhanger. Really felt like they needed 2-3 more seasons to breathe.
>>150407362I guess I kinda appreciate it but also kinda sucks.
>>150396973>>150398698>>150398741>>150398817Just scan every rock in the site and call it a day
>>150405355the fact that it's cloning and not transference totally breaks the ending, it worked at first with a few people who were unwilling uploads or already on the way out, but billions of people would not kill themselves like that lmfao
>>150407556oh sweet summer child yes yes they would, people are retarded and don't understand the difference go play soma, simon is the average person
I didn't really understand the twist at the end.So the safe surf was sent off into space in the original timeline and became omnipotent and then hijacked one of Maddie's simulations to cause her to start making the simulations in the first place to become a god?So she could join them?Was that it?But then wasn't the world where she found that answer also a simulation ran by another Maddie?
>>150407556>>150407563The problem is that the antagonists from the final 2 episodes are treated like a lol hate group when they could have a valid point of opening mankind's eyes to unwilling mass suicide that creates electronic clonesBut Maggie says "they are real because they believe they are real" about her simulated people, so the show was inherently against going the dogma of affirming beliefs about own existence (or gender)
>>150407802I mean they are real, we literally spent whole of season 1 with David proving that.They are just as real of a life as any other.
>>150395465How many worlds do you think the god maddie made that were just her having sex with caspian
>>150398045I, on the other hand, wish to be her, like a fucking troon
>>150407858They sure are real, but the flesh and blood David is dead.They are electronic clones. After S1, they just dropped any questions about that, despite the villains wanting to extend their own lives. But their consciousness won't be uploaded. David's consciousness was lost when he died. S1 Ui David's consciousness was also lost when he died in S1. David's copy from S2 was just another separate consciousness that was a copy of the original. I can agree they are real and conscious, but their birth requires for the original consciousness to be sacreficed in the process. And the last 2 episodes drop the ball on that and Meggie only objects against uploading because it makes pain eternal, not because it will kill her son
>>150408312Who the fuck are Maggie and Meggie?Also no she didn't want to upload because it would make the paint eternal for herself, she didn't want her son to upload because he would die, she was conflicted on it.But she came to realize that it's inevitable and she's only causing him pain by not letting him do it.
>>150408322The big reveal of her motive against her son's upload was that she didn't think her son would be no loner real, but she thought he would forever suffer from his losses and mistakes.Again, the lol hate group never made the argumen that UI requires suicides to be born, which would make a compelling ethical conflict. The show doesn't question anymore the loss of original consciousness and its implications, post S1. Everyone acts like UIs are extensions of original consciousness, including the people who want to live forever or hate UIs themselves. The show is good, best SF and story cartoon there is, but it has its shortcomings. Possibly due to limited amount of seasons.
>>150408360>The big reveal of her motive against her son's upload was that she didn't think her son would be no loner real, but she thought he would forever suffer from his losses and mistakes.No, it was because she was traumatized by losing both Caspian and her dad to upload where they had no other choice.>Again, the lol hate group never made the argumen that UI requires suicides to be born, which would make a compelling ethical conflict. The show doesn't question anymore the loss of original consciousness and its implications, post S1. Everyone acts like UIs are extensions of original consciousness, including the people who want to live forever or hate UIs themselves. Again, that's just how people think.Play Soma and see the coin flip debate.
>>150395465maddie was a cute piggy
>>150407726Brave new world reference
>>150409265i'm not familiar, what's the reference?
>>150395465>caspian is 18>maddie 15>gets pregnantHow did they get away with this?
>>150409365they didn'thttps://www.reddit.com/r/PantheonShow/comments/178ov6n/how_old_are_caspian_and_maddie_season_1_or_2/there was a whole trillion posts reddit thread where everyone called it disgusting and illegal and caspian a "where's my hug" creep sus senior fr fr
>>150395465probably me, i tell me people to watch this and scavengers reign all the time.
>>150409365It's the REAL reason no one can talk about Pantheon except for here. I loved how Caspian willing to martyr himself was what got both Maddie and MIST horny for his clone cock
>>150409590one of the biggest reaction channels on youtube yaboyroshi recently started watching it on their patreonso maybe they'll push the popularity when it comes to their yt channel after a while
>>150398698>>150396973speedwatchers
>>150409590Nah it's just the complete lack of marketing and anyone knowing the show exists.I mean season 1 released on amc before getting pulled and literally being unwatchable for years anywhere and season 2 was locked in exec prison with no certainty it would ever even be released at all for a long time.
>>150398094shes so fucking beautiful bros. real women can't compete
>>150409590to be fair maddie had a crush on caspian since the start because he was the cool brooding older mysterious hacker guybut people also don't want to admit a 15 year old girl would have a crush on an older guy
>>150399368the natives were cool with it, the govt just reneged on the deal to spite the UI/CI this is stated very blatantly in the episode
>>150409619>Nah it's just the complete lack of marketing and anyone knowing the show existsIt's a Sci Fi show with abstract concepts. People, especially young people aren't going to like it because of the various real world references that will fly over there head yet the characters in the story point out those references making the general audience feel dumb. Shit like Phineas Gage is not something the average person knows about these days. Add in the only solid romance in between a fifteen-year-old girl and a "grown man" and that's poison for meaningful discussion. Even though Caspian is an emotionally stunted clone that never initiated romantic nor sexual encounters. it was all Maddie.
>>150409627>Asian teen girl with daddy issues>cool brooding white guy slightly olderClassic.
>>150409697asian girls belong to white men
>>150409632That was MIST's claim but she's a lying whore who was willing to listen to Holstrom and tried to upload illegally Dave without thinking about what Maddie thoughtShe is as biased a narrator as anyone else
>>150409662we got a yapper
>>150409992>person is TOO passionate Poser. You don't actually care about Pantheon.
Second season has way too much forced drama and the pajeet in the first was an absolute retard who ruined the whole show
>>150410115chanda was kino in the first seasonthen he spent all of season 2 (2 minutes) with a finger up his ass and died via writer lobotomy
>>150410105i didn't see any passionjust yapping
>>150410165how big are your tits, slut
>>150410177it's pretty gay to ask about someone's moobs
>>150395465Call me a fag but I thought that line about Maddie missing her and Caspian's potential future was pretty beautiful.I know they kinda rushed into being a thing but it worked for me, I dunno.
>>150411128>tfw you'll never have a god fall in love you and create a dyson sphere powered quantum computer to run infinite simulations of her falling in love with you at the end of time
>>150395536What is it with animated Maddies?
>>150412054?
>>150411515Don't I know it, buddy...
Maddie a cute!!!
>>150411515>she actually did>this is just a simulation where she accidentally never met youIt'll reset soon, don't worry
>>150395465This was the dumbest white girl nonsense I ever watched
>>150395465I had the same reaction but because it was awful schlock. The Indian botfarm advertising this here for years was pathetic
>>150413722what movie
For anyone who liked Pantheon I want to recommend the webcomic Seed, it's kind of similar and I don't think many people have read it.https://mto.to/title/128614
>>150398689>baby fatherthe hell is that?
>>150413680>she forgot to rename a float variable in the code and now you're just doomed to repeat an infinite number of simulations where you never meet and die alonerun accidentalhell.exe
>>150414939a phantom inside two curved plates
>>150414939Johnny Mnemonic
>>150414939Mobile Armoured Riot Police
>>150395465You mean it can evoke emotions other than boredom?
>>150418690yeah
>>150414939ghost in the shellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-zUAb_ndDk
>>150395465Alright which fagtuber made a video essay on it this time?
>>150418870CorneliusHe also mentions 4chan in it and calls this place a shithole (which it is) and advises that reddit is better for discussing it (pottery). Just A Robot also made a video on it.
>>150418884>he's in collegeIt's really odd growing older and seeing all these kids make video essays like this when I'm used to them being made by millennials.Maybe Hideo Kojima was right about the whole inheriting the memes thing being a cesspool in modern times, maybe we shouldn't have passed on something like this onto the new generation.
>>150419408wait a second...>mentions discussing it here 2 years ago>collegei knew we had underageb& posting here
>>150419507Could of been a super senior
>>150418884seems like a cool channel but namedropping this place (and especially the loli threads on here) is gonna kneecap him so hard eventually when people come for him with pitchforks for being in /co/ loli threads
>>150418884>7 hour videoYou have brain damage, anon.
>>150420463I only watched 5 minutes before clicking off when he said to go to reddit instead of 4chan to discuss it.So fuck you.
>>150396973>Moral conflict that's a big part of the plot>Uhhhh, it must be propaganda!!!!111How do people this dumb exist?
>>150396854The idea that Dyson Spheres are in any way achievable and that consequences don't matter because eventually tech will rewrite history to fix everything.
>>150397838You can really tell the last 3 episodes were supposed to be their own season but they had to rush through it. Still the fact they managed to pull a satisfying ending out of that is a miracle in of itself.
>>150420588>anon learns what fiction is for the first time, filmed live