Why is every adaptation or spinoff material of this range from consumable to abysmal dogshit? Did Moore use his magic and hexed it?
The victims of the wizard are many.
>>150407934Watchmen is a one-in-done story from an individual writer named Alan Moore and an artist named Dave Gibbons. The creators are what make Watchmen, Watchmen, not the IP itself. If Moore and Gibbons had decided to make a sequel or a prelude story themselves, that would carry the authorial weight that the other work doesn't have, which comes off more as glorified fan fiction.After the failure of the Disney Star Wars sequels, you'd think the general public would realize the authorial voice is the key to what makes a franchise, but they still haven't seemed to learn it.
>>150407934Look at the book market. Most writers are shit. And connecting the ones with money, IP and creatives is a lottery.Give me Dave Gibbons and i make a real true to the source sequel.
>>150407962>you'd think the general public would realize the authorial voice is the key to what makes a franchiseNot even the people in this board are able to grasp that
>>150408194This
>>150408203Literally everyone here agrees on that.
>>150407934because they're chasing trends unnecessarily, the animated duology had no reason to look like arcane
>>150407934Because the real value is in the panelling, the colors, the compositions, and the very unique feeling all that produces as you turn the pagesAnd if you read From Hell, Swamp Thing, V etc you can see that's all very intentionalIf you read Alan Moore's scripts, it's unbelievable the amount of detail planned for each panelCan't copy real artistic inspiration
If he ever actually bothered to curse anything wouldn't it make sense for him to curse this?
>>150408367It's a special case
>>150407934>MooreWho?
>>150408334The duology didn't look like Arcane, it was shitty cell-shaded CGI like that shitty What If show.
>>150408400Alan>>150408363This. And dont forget how good Dave Gibbons is in worldbuilding through background.His Martha Washington really feels like a glimpse in a real world setting.
The fact that the only reason fags like the movie more is because manhattan blows a bunch of shit up at the end should tell you all you need to know about who these things are made for
>>150409919Honestly, i like the movie. But i know that it is a movie, made for a movie audience. So i accept the tone shifting. Funny enough is that this is the most true to the source comic adaption, while it gets the source wrong.I mean Rorschach became the bad-ass anti-hero, superheroes are cool and the squid is too fantastical.While the comic is in those points completly the opposite. That kinda shows you how weird /tv/ is in adapting.
>>150408363Neil Gaiman was taught to script by Alan Moore and people will still say that the artists made Sandman.
>>150410033>i like the movieI don't get how. The acting is so bad.
>>150410851Because it has charm. And i know what it stands for. Besides the acting of Jackie Earle Haley, Patrick Wilson and Malin Åkerman are not that bad. It is a little bit theatrical, ok, but thats the whole movie.
>>150411411Haley was fine, but his Rorschach was all wrong. He was too angry.
>>150412800Too angry? I dont think so. I would only agree the the psyche and the prison cantine “Locked in here with me“.
>>150412800Yeah, I always read Rorschach as a having a very neutral monotone sounding voice. Not a gravely Batman voice.
>>150410033>>150411411>>150412800>>150413255>>150413364The biggest sin of the movie is Rorschach putting the cleaver through the child murderer's skull instead of what he did in the comic; Dragging him over to the radiator, handcuffing him to it, giving him a rusty saw, then torching the place and letting the guy find the will to saw off his own hand and live, or die in the fire. Making Rorschach directly commit murder misses the entire point of what he did, lessens his character, and honestly wouldn't have taken up much more screentime, two minutes, max. But it does lessen his character and his arc to change that.
>>150413364Thats a good point. The drawings give a feeling but not an exact voice. But i thought the textballoon indicates a voice like the movie did.>>150413490Have to agree to that. The comic made it more sarcastic than the shock effect Snyder did.
>>150413754>Thats a good point. The drawings give a feeling but not an exact voice. But i thought the textballoon indicates a voice like the movie did.In the comic, Laurie says that Rorschach has a monotone voice.The most accurate portrayal of how Rorschach should talk comes from straight from the source though, Alan Moore himself playing the character (minus the heavy accent):https://youtu.be/4SNKRo0Zalk
>>150408254not really. Look at how many people here want a new Teen ttians 2003 season despite one of the major character designers dying and the writers not wanting it. they expect it to be birthed out the ether.
>>150413255>>150413364It's a tad too affected. A similar but more monotone voice is Richard Harrow from Boardwalk Empire. His voice is also gravelly, but it sounds like the voice of a man who lost his soul, or most of it.>>150413841Moore's rendition sounds even more dead, like he's been on his final breaths for a long time. Pretty amazing.
>>150413841But Moore isnt completly monotone. And when i compare it with the movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhwbCMsWZRwIt is kinda similar monotone. Just he talks faster.
>>150414306>It's a tad too affected. Monotone doesnt exclude affection. >Moore's rendition sounds even more dead, like he's been on his final breaths for a long time.Dead? It sounds more like a classic narrator. And i dont hear that it is dead. I even hear sometimes emotions to point out certain words.
>>150414608Dead is good. It's more fitting for Rorschach.
>>150413841Moore does emphasize certain words, but the slow speech really improves it. The accent is in the way, though.>>150414538There's a perceived anger there because it's too far from the actor's actual voice. As in, it really sounds forced, whereas Moore's does not.
>>150408194Nothing can top WatchmeX
>>150416459What about Saturday Morning Watchmen?
>>150413754>Have to agree to that. The comic made it more sarcastic than the shock effect Snyder did.This is my problem with Snyder, even when visually people feel like it was the same as individual panels, so much stuff is just different and worse but it is hard to describe because people focus so much on Squid vs Dr Manhattan thing. Even when it does look similar it often has vastly different feelings to it.
>>150411411>Malin Åkerman are not that bad.She may be the worst part. Some of her line delivery during the dinner scene with Patrick Wilson is really fucking bad.
>>150407962>After the failure of the Disney Star Wars sequelsWeird example given how the Star Wars prequels were Lucas' authorial voice, even more so that maybe the OT, and they remain divisive.
>>150407934It's just a matter of its architecture, those who fully digest it recognize that the writing and paneling all rely on the comic medium's presentation, so anyone with sense who understands that wouldn't bother even if they were very good directors. Those who lack skill, sense and understanding are going to naturally fumble something.For example along with the 3x3 grid Moore's infamous use of verbal-visual transitions helps provide a metronome to the fateful events, connecting seemingly distant things to the omnipresent reader. You could have someone say the exact lines before cutting to a new scene in a TV show/movie but it wouldn't have the same synergizing effect as a comic because it's heard, not read for it to sink in, even with subtitles it might be missed depending on how quick or slow the viewer reads to the cinematography switch.Dialing back to the grid, it helps convey a lot of visual information all at once for the reader to bounce back and forth between on a page at their leisure, movies are linear even if the script is out of order, meaning once a scene goes by the film doesn't pause for you to reflect. You have to rewind, which streaming and home media allow but even then it's not like there's a "panel scene to panel scene" chapter select, you have rough timeframes that make it a hassle.tl;dr Moore, Gibbons and Higgins used the "magic" called familiarity with the trade to get the most of their tasks, everyone copying their presentation doesn't understand the thought process behind it to deliver the same thing.
>>150407934Moore has an eye for cinema. Even when reading League and other books of his, he employs film techniques. And Watchmen is probably one of the greatest examples of this, which is why people have a hard time taking down Snyder's adaptation. It's too good, but it exposes the weaknesses of the original book. Reading League, I started to like the offbeat writing of the later volumes more than the “normal” narrative of the first two volumes. He really hammers home his point in the later volumes and manages to be even funnier and edgier.
>>150417514>It's too good, but it exposes the weaknesses of the original book.I don't see how. The comic is better in every way.There are film techniques that Snyder could have used to match the style and tone of the comic more accurately, but he didn't have it in him.
>>150417514The exact opposite is trueThe movie adaptation exposes all the weaknesses of cinema - the fast food of art - as a medium
>>150417575It's perfectly accurate. It also made me rethink some of Moore's stylistic decisions. Watchmen is fine, but I don't think it's the best summation of Moore's work. He decides to stick to a fairly straightforward whodunit story, with some occasional bursts of overt parody and edginess, but never to the same degree as in his other works.
>>150417630>It's perfectly accurate.It isn't. So much is different, from camera angles to character actions to entire plot points.
>>150417366None of the acting was particularly good, but yeah, she was one of the worst.
>>150418623All the performances were fine. Even the miscasts were perfect because in the original they didn't have much character anyway.>SilkPoorly defined female character. Morrison could pile criticism on Silk in that book.>OwlbitchLame nerd. >ManhattanSilver Surfer sixties dialogue.>NerdmandiasNerd.The two best characters are perfect, and that's enough.
>>150418686I find it weird that you'd feel the need to comment on a book that you've obviously never read.
>>150418726I read it many years ago, about 12 years ago. And these are stock characters from Alan Moore, but worse. Masked Dood and Comedian are the best characters.
>>150418772So you read it when you were ten years old, and it went completely over your head, and you feel the need to carry on about it.
>>150418829Stop taking the bait.
>>150418829What about? Silk is a crappy female character. He's already made his point about sexism in comics better in other stories. The other characters are kind of there, I even felt that Moore was bored with them, even the blue Silver Surfer. Question and the Peacemaker are kind of the best characters.
>>150417386The fact that they have a clear authorial voice and ultimately have a cohesive story over three films still makes them better than the Sequel Trilogy. They may have been imperfect, but they are the movies George Lucas wanted to make.
>>150418892For money. Lucas isn't a child playing with expensive technology; he did things for money.
>>150418892>cohesive storyDo you know that the original screenings of Revenge of the Sith left the audience really confused as to why Anakin turned to the darkside and the extra plotline with Padme, including dream sequences, was added later. It doesn't feel very cohesive.
>>150419031Considering they figured out something was wrong and fixed it before it was released, that's a step up above whatever the hell happened with Episode 9
>>150408363>>150417467This.
>>150415653Dead isnt good. Because Rorschach should be appear like he is without emotions. But all his actions results from bitterness with the world. He isnt Dr. Manhattan.
>>150416417It might be my perception, but i think Moores sounds as forced as Haleys.It reminds me more as a narrator that opens a fantasy movie or a DnD session.
>>150407962>would realize the authorial voice is the key to what makes a franchise,I would 100% agree with you except Star Wars genuinely went to shit with the 3D Clone Wars and that was partially under Lucas.
>>150416459Indeed. But i could. Just give me Dave Gibbons, one additional artist, an inker and a colorist.Because how funny and satirical WatchmeX is, it also is very random and 2010s “Lol’d“-humor.
>>150409404Huh. I think I have the set of these issues. Been meaning to give it a try.Also Gibbons is really good artist. His characters feel three dimensional and not flat. He has a great control of anatomy and the color in Watchment is really good. Watchmen, when it was originally printed, was also on incredibly high quality matte paper, slightly off white, and it's filled with huge splashes of pure CMYK, like magenta backgrounds and blood, yellow for the first cover and Ozymandius, even Dr Manhattan is a very strong Cyan. Whenever I dig through dollar bin comics I always grab anything by Gibbons.
>>150417320It is hard to describe because he took the panel but the tone and the inbetween scenes are different than what the books tone was.For example, the first part when Rorschach enters the Comedians apartment. He has to use his grappling gun, but in the movie it makes the capes looking cool. And that wasnt Moores intention here, maybe looking moody or intemidating but not cool superheroes.
>>150410033I also enjoy the movie and it's because I actually read the comic first. I knew it would not be a 1:1 adaption, and I would have personally spent more time on the Dr Manhattan scene where he gains his powers and the Mars segment because the way it's written and paced in the comic honestly brought tears to my eyes. If Watchmen had been an HBO mini series it might honestly have been way better. Also like you said, besides the classic Snyder "I hate color" visuals, it was very true to the comic unlike garbage like the MCU.
>>150417366I dont mind her acting. She did well, not a stone face, emotions can be seen. And since the whole movie was more a stage play than Hollywood “realistic“ and emotional acting. The only scene i can remember where the acting is off is Manhattan and Silk Spectre on Mars. But that scene is very exposition and talking in the comic and how Snyder tried to give this emotional filling the gaps he couldt or wanted to do as story scenes.
>>150420255It is really great. And i dont know if he or Miller adapted what they saw in Watchmen or that was what Gibbons part in Watchemn and Washington. There are those little background stuff or drawings that makes you feel a real world.Some people complain that his drawings are too stiff or dont have enough action in it. But i like it and it makes it look more real or old school.But i might not the best for this, because i defend Alex Ross art too. Because people tend to want only manga or Ditko style.
>>150420270Nicely described.The problem with the movie for purist fans is that they dont understand that the medium comic is much different to movies. Let alone the consumer of the mediums and the learned behaviour. When i rate it, i can differ between the source and the changes because of the medium or the person who adapts it.Thats why i gave the Before Watchmen a better rating than others would. Because i can see the good in it. Or weight in the different aspects.Thats why i gave Doomsday Clock a good start and a bad conclusion. I can see the good parts.Only HBO i kight be too hardh or too negative, tho.
>>150420255> GibbonsI like his art, but I see a bias towards his art over the art of other Moore artists. I haven't read everything Moore has written, but O'Neal was the best Moore artist in my opinion. But he's too out there to be liked.
>>150420801O'Neal Is more cinematic. But it is hard to say since it really depends on the script they get.
>>150421446Or what the comic creatives want to say.
>>150421460I dont see a big difference in their ability to draw dynamic or action,panels.
>>150421477
>>150407934Basically this guy is right>>150407962Those other writers are simply worse at their job than Moore. There's nothing more needed for them to fail.
I meant that O'Neill.
because they're all done by capeshit writers who only read and make capeshit. they think watchmen is what they're making, not a work that happens to be about superheroes.
Watchmen is a superhero comic .
>>150421541Oh, that O'Neill. Sorry, my fault.
>>150421579And? Water is wet?
>>150421568This. But you could say that most writers (/tv/ and /lit/ included) are very narrow in their capabilities or interests.
>>150421446O'Neil was the writer. Neal Adams was the artist.
>>150410033This list will always be retarded. Before Watchmen sucked hard and there's a reason very few people remember it. The Snyder movie also sucked because he's a retard that fundamentally misunderstood the comic like with most things.
>>150413490Speaking of that scene, when Walter snaps and goes full Rorschach in the comic he doesn't start frothing with rage like any normal person would in that situation. No, what makes Rorschach an odd duck is that he went full emotionally cold which is way more indicative of a dissociative mental breakdown which is part of the reason the comic version is such a fascinating character. The movie shits all over this by making him sperg out every time, especially that scene.
>>150417630>It's perfectly accurateAbsolutely not, there are numerous examples of scenes where Snyder adapts the literal visuals of it but fucks it up by failing to actually understand the content. Like take the deleted scene of Hollis Mason's death. In the comic it's more about the horror of this old man getting brained to death contrasted with brief snippets of when he was in his prime. In the movie, they added this retarded triumphant music to it all and actually have him put up more of a fight like it's sort of some last hurrah for him.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaK0m9Itr8s
>>150407934Guys... Can League still be reissued? The later chapters have some un-PC stuff, and maybe they'll censor it or something. Is it better to buy it now, before they ban it to the shadow realm? Because, like, it's a series that alienates both conservatives and leftists.
>>150421979Too many Neils/Neals!
>>150422827I remember them very well. I have to admit i remember Minute Men, Silk Spectre and Rorschach the best of them.
>>150422897Is he really emotional cold? I mean we dont see his face. We only get that he emotionless talks about him going full Jigsaw Killer.But yes the movie is more action movie.
>>150407934It could be directly adapted into a tv show decently. Albeit it would be a bit redundant since the visuals of the graphic novel are already so good. And you'd also lose out on much of the great narration and prose the book has.I don't know why WB never did a direct mini-series adaptation, it would fit very well for a prestige TV show.As for spin offs, Watchmen is a completed story. It's also a setting which, unlike many other comics, wasn't made for continued on-going adventures. The world of Watchmen exists to tell the story of the 12-issue mini series, and that's it.All attempts to 'add on to it' are cheap cash-grabs, and recognized as such. I mean, if you really want something like Watchmen, why not just create an original IP inspired by Moore's work?Trying to sew a new plot out of a completed one like a weird narrative Frankenstein's monster is a fool's errand.
>>150423564You would be the exception, Rorschach was outright shit and Minute Men/Silk Spectre were okay at best.
>>150423084Can you explain it more? Because i dont follow distribution practices. Is it hard to get Loeg books at the moment?
>>150423715Christ, are you ESL or something? I can barely parse that. Anyway, yes, Rorschach through most of the comic is very gruff and flat. There are only a handful of moments where he shows explosive emotion (when he has his "face" removed and when he dares Manhattan to kill him) and they all serve a narrative purpose. For the majority of the comic he has only a blank, listless expression and talks in a gravelly, monotone voice. When he gets angry his is a cold, quiet rage. The only time when Rorschach really shows emotion is when the man, Walter Kovacs, breaks through but it's very rare. The movie is stupid because it shits all over this clear delineation which is the entire point of the character and his theming.
>>150423723I remember Rorschach because it wasnt so good. And i see what the idea behind the story was. It was to show how Rorschach fights Organized Crime, thats Roschach is still a normal man and that the Mask isnt what takes it to be Rorschach.But overly the story is very basic.
>>150423015This is the thing that I hate about Snyder's filmmaking the most: he is only capable of taking the most surface level read of something. In Watchmen, every fight actually means something and tells us about the characters involved. In the movie, the fights are just cool fights that showcase how cool fights are. Everything he does is like this.
>>150423784I don't understand the love for the first two volumes. Great art? Yes, but it's standard fare. I like the trippier later chapters better.
>>150423856>Christ, are you ESL or something?Maybe you cant understand your own language?Anyway. I dont think he is that emotionless under the mask. We just dont see his face. But you could argue the mask gives you a hint of his expressions.
>>150424303Best team, best story. The trippier ones also becomes convoluted and more jumpy. And you get more glimpses of Moores hate for certain literature and book characters.
>>150423480Kneel.
>>150407934>Why is it that every time bad-to-mediocre writers adapt or do a spin-off of a book by a great writer, the results are bad to mediocre?Some questions have no answers, anon.
>>150425227I kneel
>>150423784I only read the first two volumes. I thought the first volume was a near perfect execution on the idea of a Victorian age Justice League.The second volume felt like Moore was trying to stuff in as many obscure references as possible. It didn't deliver on the War of the Worlds concept like I'd hoped and I was disappointed the team was disbanded.
>>150421541I really liked this series. I fucked up my first issue somehow and the corner c got crushed and ended up ordering a second copy for my set.
>>150420238>I would 100% agree with you except Star Wars genuinely went to shit with the 3D Clone Wars and that was partially under Lucas.CW itself was fine; the problem is that the franchise has been coddled to death and the people running it refuse to let go. Every single fucking television or film product that Disney has made has been either OT nostalgiabait or an incestuous derivation of CW - except for the Acolyte, and we all know how that went.At this point each squeeze produces more blood than milk but Disney is going to keep going until the cow keels over.
>>150426599Volume 1 and 2 are a full story. 1 is the creation of the team. And 2 is when the team has its endgame.I believe that it originated from Moores idea for a Watchmen prequell about the minute men. But since he likes books and had no right for Watchmen, repurposed it.For me 1 and 2 are on the same level.
>>150426599The second volume is my favorite.
>>150410098considering the art in Sandman is dogshit half the time and they fucked it up even further with those awful recolors, I don't know who says that
>>150410033true and honest ranking
>>150417620Movies can be great. Fast food and gourmet exist within the same medium.
>>150417514>people have a hard time taking down Snyder's adaptationsays who
>>150428151>No Saturday Morning WatchmenBro, you had one job!
>>150428286some sacrifices must be made in order to achieve a more perfect and just society
>>150428306Damn...
>>150421579true
>>150424303Standard fare my ass. It's pretty fun.
>>150408194I would pay for read this.
>>150421477There's a definite skill difference between Cowan and Gibbons, but a major issue is that Cowan didn't ink his own stuff for that book.
>>150421979>>150420801 is talking about Kevin O'Neill
>>150428205Yes but there's a reason why everyone and their mother feel like they could make a «great» movie, it’s because cinema is inherently naïve art but lacks individuality and authorship
>>150407934An adaptation of Watchmen should have be a 12 part miniseries.
Continuing the story defeats the whole point of it.
>>150432809In an ideal world, an adaptation of Watchman would never have existed at all
>>150432827It's shocking how quickly a movie adaptation of Watchmen was being talked about.
>>150428306What? Adrian, do you post on /co/ again?>>150429324Indeed.
>>150431152You would?
>>150407934Moore is a socialist and Hollywood is made up of liberals. They do not grasp the fundamental brokenness of the real world Moore is writing about, because it's a world that suits them fairly nicely and they won't entertain any threatening ideas.The HBO series is the ultimate example of this. It tries to deepen the politics of the book by teasing out the thread between capes, policing, and violent enforcement of hierarchy. Cool idea, probably why Lindelof wrote a cuck letter to Alan hoping he'd see the vision. But then in the last episode the big plan is just to solve racism by blowing up a tiny group of US elites who are secretly Klan. This effectively absolves the wider US elite and completely fails to confront the scale or nature of the issues. The horizons of the writers' imaginations were so small that they got lost in wanking over Dr Manhattan's superpowers for the last third of the show instead.And Ozymandias ultimately has something in common with them. Incinerating countless ordinary people with a squid is seen as the 'only' way to avert global nuclear war because ordinary people cannot, or will not be permitted to, band together and interrupt the system of power that creates those wars.
>>150421579Well done Grok! That is correct. Now please generate me a picture of Dr. Manhattan and Ozymandias french kissing.
>>150407934Here's a better question. Why is it that every thread feels like it's inviting the same posts about how everything sucks now?
>>150431903You have to rub it into my nose. Yes, i didnt knew who he meant and got work of the writer Dennis O’Neil.
>>150432809>>150432827In an ideal world Moore would still be at DC and directed that movie.
>>150433036Is there a pdf for this issue?
>>150433510What a weird statement. Looking at conservative comics and gamergate, i dont see a big difference in the writing capability of any site.
>>150433036>>150433630Nice art
>>150433523It's not far from the truth.
>>150433630No
>>150435753Well shit
before watchmen was shit except silk specre, minument and the one-shot.
>>150433523It is always easier to frown and mourn. And when you read one of the best comics, you get angry that there is nothing as good anymore.
>>150433523that's how the site works
>>150435753Thats sad.>>150436538Both one-shots or only one? I found Dollar Bill and Moloch to be surprisingly good to read.
>>150407934This was never good. It's a huge psyop.
>>150431130The series is Stormwatch in the late 19th century. It has everything you criticize about Ultimates and authority, but with Alan Moore's name on it.
>>150436538They should have hired Allred and other old-school writers to do the series. Mad Men felt more like something written by Alan Moore than any Before Watchmen volume.
>>150437377This. Everyone is pretending to like it.
>>150437470>but with Alan Moore's name on it.And, more importantly, his writing.
>>150437377By whom?>>150437812All the comic magazins helped it to became big, but the hype was there from the forst issue.
>>150437470I would say it is more like Planetary. And i agree with >>150438488 that there is a difference. Like X-Files and Twin Peaks.
>>150421793cuteness
>>150421793Eldritch
>>150440008>>150440248You have to settle for one position!
>>150440410I refuse.
>>150433510This anon gets it
In the first Nemo trilogy volume. I wasn't going to read it because I have to practice my guitar and other productive shit. And I'm kind of disappointed that it's even more standard than the first two LOEG volumes. Are people such suckers for “traditional” storytelling? There are so many plot contrivances that are played straight, it annoys me.
>>150424281>I hate about Snyder's filmmaking the most: he is only capable of taking the most surface level read of somethingI seem to remember reading in an interview that he literally can’t read or has a hard time reading. Which is evident in the interview where he claims Batman shoots the mutant between the eyes in Dark Knight Returns
>>150410098>and people will still say that the artists made Sandman.who the fuck says that???!!
>>150433510hey, don't forget the triumphant ending of the strong black woman becoming a superpowered cop answerable to no one but herself
>>150428151kek
>>150442053I think you're just really stupid.
> It's Lovecraft, so it must be good. It made me like Lovecraft plotting less. In fact, Lovecraft plotting is so beneath the quality of Moore's writing.
>>150443896Who are you quoting?
>>150407934Because they don't hire good writers to write comics. This isn't specifically about Watchmen, but is applicable to Watchmen.
>>150407962>prequelfags still trying to gaslite people into believing that they were goodThe problem of Watchmen sequels/prequels isn't that the original creators weren't involved. The problem is that they aren't hiring writers who have something meaningful to say.There's a reason why there's only a few comics that are actually respected. The majority are just empty calories for the brain. You can keep track of the truly great comics, that transcend the expectations of the medium. There's just that few, and none have been made in over a decade, likely decades.
>>150407934What if you made a high budget animated show, god tier soundtrack, god tier animation that tries to stick close to the comic book lighting and art direction, and god tier voice acting, adapted every scene action for action word for word…. Would original readers enjoy it or would the experience still be too different from just reading it? Could an adaptation ever satisfy everybody?
>>150445491I don't see how you'd replicate the 9 panel standard to the moments of different panel sizes. The use of full page splashes are a special and rare moment. There's no way to recreate them, with animation.Even the motion comic lacks.It was always written to be a comic, using the medium. You can't change the medium, and have the same effect.The medium IS the message.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFwVCHkL-JU
>>150445540Great video.
>>150445491no thanks
>>150445468I agree with this. >and none have been made in over a decade, likely decades.Not this, because Multiversity, LoeG and EarthX Trilogy.
So, in the last volume of the Nemo trilogy, I am completely disappointed. It's not just standard storytelling, it's downright mediocre. > Contrivied plot played straight> Full of clichés played straightWhy don't you guys just admit that you like slop better. Kevin does a huge carry job for what is a tired Alan Moore
>>150442053I like good storytelling, so i liked the stories. Sure there was no big underlying mystery or surprising revelation. But it was a straight adventure story.>>150446450It is just a good adventure story and the tone is what makes it enjoyable.
>>150443021The HBO show has some interesting ideas, but overly it feels very cliche and has plotholes or contradicts the origin.Sister Night is the epitome what is wrong. She is too important for the story. First she is an ancestor of Hooded Justice, the first cape. Than she is the main character who start uncovers everything. She is the police captain. Regarding the rascist angle, she is black. Than she is the love interest of Dr Manhattan.I wouldnt call her Mary Sue, but you can describe her as the McGuffin.
