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>Raven and Starfire are super popular in /co/
>Nobody knows who Donna Troy is

Should she have been included in the Teen Titans cartoon?
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All I know about her is she's had a lot of retcons or something
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>>150409114
Yeah, a lot of characters usually get more popular with a good animated appearance. Killer Frost and Magpie went from literal whos to decently popular for a while, and those were from fairly niche projects.

Biggest issue is I feel like a lot of why the show worked was the smaller cast. Dont feel like it would have hit the same if it expanded to 6-7 long term members.

Also, wasnt her exclusion a result of the Bat embargo? Where they werent allowed to use WW cast?
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>>150409114
Zoomers won. That's why.
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>>150409237
Nice to know we still see this design used today. Even if i think the last appearance was the HQ show.

Also, crazy we got even an implied necrophiliac here, wow
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>>150409114
>Should she have been included in the Teen Titans cartoon?
Nah. The showrunners made the right decision to cut her and Kid Flash out. They were the most boring Titans and having a Five Man band is much better
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>>150409114
She might not have been in the show but she was in a comic based on the cartoon.

>Should she have been included in the Teen Titans cartoon?
Eh I prefer the black suit over the red so in my opinion it was probably for the best. Would've been nice to see her in an episode though.
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>>150409157
Kid Flash and Wonder Girl were embargoed, yeah, but Murakami felt that didn't hamper things. They had to get special permission to even use Wally in more than one episode in season 5, and only snuck in "Nameless Heroine" as a headshot. No clue if a secret model sheet exists for her, though Murakami did give her a full design for Todd Nauck to work off of in the tie-in comic.
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>>150409617
There are two silhouettes in the heroine tournament at the end of "Winner Take All" that were drawn as if they could be her and Aquagirl, though they later decided to give Donna- I mean, nameless girl, a ponytail when they gave her a face.
Nauck gave Tula a blue-skinned, green-haired, kappa girl design but Derrick Wyatt and some others didn''t consider anything in the comic that wasn't from their staff to be canon.
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>>150409114
I think there was an embargo on wonder girl. The cartoon was pretty restricted on what dc heroes they could use
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Reminder Donna is canonically a gamer
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>>150409114
No. On a 5 person team you should always have 3 males and 2 females.
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>>150409812
The staff had to submit a list of different DC characters related to the Titans franchise each season to see which ones DC editorial would allow or veto.

Wyatt once posted one of those lists for the prospective season 6/NTT, which showed they had to ask DC about whether or not they could use Danny Chase, The Ant, and some others.
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>>150410492
Meanwhile Titans go can use the entire DC vault
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>>150410524
Yeah, that's the benefit of TTGo being made post-embargos and having a staff that would want to utilize others outside the Titans box.

Well, Peter David's TT pitch would've had Infinity Inc. and other DC heroes and teams referenced, but Sam Register hated it and said no. Probably would've been too much hassle to clear with DC too, but still hoping one day someone dumps the whole pitch outside the few pages that've been seen.
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>>150409114
Almost literally every character gets more attention from an animated appearance on TV. Almost.
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>>150409114
They probably couldn't because of DC's stupidly nonsense tv rights issues.
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>>150409114
Donna was also fucked by DC/Warner replacing her with Diana for DC Superhero Girls
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>>150409114
>Should she have been included in the Teen Titans cartoon?
shouldn't even be a question, yes
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>>150410492
Post
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>>150409114
By this point there should have been another Titans cartoon that did include her
Its been 20 years

She didn't even get to do anything in Young Justice
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>>150409114
She WAS included in the Teen Titans cartoon, back in the 1960s. Unless you mean the anime wannabe trash from 2003?
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I like Donna
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WW characters could only show up if they were the main characters, same reason WW didnt show up in the batman.
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>>150411869
That was an embargo.
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>>150409114
>character that was created due to a clerical error becomes so loaded with baggage and retcons that everyone just tries to forget she exists
KWAB
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>>150411832
Sure.
https://x.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1301555888520531970
The ones crossed out might have been either rejects or "Yes" ones, since both David Slack and Glen Murakami talked of wanting to use Rose in any season 6. Chris King would also fit with the further focus on young characters, though Vigilante feels a bit out of place unless he was to be in a role like the Doom Patrol.

And here's a villain list they sent for one of the seasons before, most likely 5. The characters on those lists weren't necessarily plotted to be used, but more or less they'd make sure ahead of time who they could or couldn't put in the show. Shame that they never used Shimmer.
https://x.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1425817958777982978
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>>150411837
We could've had her be leader in the Hanna-Barbera toon, but if Alan Burnett and Jeffrey Scott recall anything of that pitch, they haven't been talking or nobody's asked them.
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>>150411923
I'm surprised they were considering using Vigilante.

I also thought Azrael was weird until I remembered they likely meant the NTT character and not the Batman one.
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>>150411869
I think the Wonder Girls couldn't show up at all. Donna was considered for Young Justice S1 but they couldn't use her.



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