Should I get the Incal, Metabarons or Technopriests? I want all three, but I don't want to blow that much money this month on comics, there are some other things I want too.
Try this, bro. https://globalcomix.com/read/f925112a-248f-438d-96bc-1dcbf28e9661/1It's much better.
>>150411562I strongly recommend Incal. Metabarons is great fun but may or may not belong on your shelf. Technopriests is a huge dip. IMO of course.
>>150411677>traced poser art
>>150411562The Incal is the beginning.
>>150411562Such great art. I'd pick The Metabarons, but maybe I'm saying that because I already own The Incal.
Thanks bros, I think I will get the Incal now and then try and get Metabarons next month
>>150411562Do you enjoy style over substance? Do you long to consume the warmed-over leftovers of Western Tradition mystics, as cooked up from a recipe book authored by New Age poseurs and served to you by wet-behind-the-ears, back-to-nature hippies and too-cool-for-this-scene beatniks? If Yes, then Jobberowsky's your man. If No, then these books are only worth it for the Moebius and Gimenez art.
comics are for nerds
>>150411677This has to be some of the most boring paneling I've ever seen.
>>150414802name some better comics
>>150414843Millar, go back to writing your movie pitches disguised as comics. Jodorowsky is never going to return your calls or cast you as Jesus in a Holy Mountain sequel.
>>150411562Go for the Incal since the other books are spin offs.Incal has been reprinted a decent amount of times so it can't be too expensive (I see it around 20 bucks on eBay)than go with MetaBaronsTechnopriests isn't as good as the other ones but its not bad. I'd say it starts slow and I don't like the art as much as Juan Gimemez or Moebius (but most people aren't that great)Before the Incal and After the Incal are decent spin offs but they aren't "necessarily "
>>150414843He won't.
>>150411562>IncalThis is the only good one out of the 3 you mention.
>>150414843>name some better comicsRodney Dangerfield.
>>150415701Metabarons is better.
>>150415743lel
>>150414906>Millarpffft.... LOL
>>150414906Why Millar?
Goyer actually read a comic?
>>150414802You say leftovers like a modern reader would get any enjoyment out of reading old mystics' schizo ramblings that were made to express their mental illness and not to be entertaining.
>>150411562Metabarons is the best one. Technopriests isn't any good. Incal is overrated.
>>150411562For me it's Metabarons > Incal >>>>> Technopriests.Whether you'll like Incal or Metabarons better depends on your preferences. Incal is a lot more like a classic adventure story while Metabarons is more like reading mythology in sci-fi form. Technopriests is just not very good, like most of Jodorowsky's work.
>>150419442>>150411562Incal is supposed to be funny, I guess, but the story is, in essence, hella depressing.Metabarons and Showman Killer are odd, but they're still funny in how earnest everybody is - plus the art is good. Technopriests is way to weird for its own good and a child protagonist plus a snarky animal side kick are just not a good combination. Plus it's an anti-gamer comic that doesn't leave the big megacorporation alone, which is worse than Shoa.
>>150411562Incal and Before Incal, in that order. Metabarons after that if you're still interested. Technopriests isn't as good but there's cool stuff in it still
Metabarons first, Ical after that. Technopriests is pretty dragging
>>150411562What is this?
>>150419131>Why Millar?He's a brainlet who thinks the Incal is deep.>>150419257t. filtered by Aiwass
Ameriburges don't get Jodo, because they are primitive and have no sense of beauty (video link from the first answer, they posted some poorly drawn shit, because there was also a bald guy there and he was fighting).Love Jodo or hate him, but understand that he doesn't think like an American, but like an Iberoamerican-French surrealist. Everything is understandable, as long as you don't expect symbols to be an allegories. It's more of a metaphor for certain psychological and life-related themes.Essentially, every Jodo story tells of a loss, a fall into some form of Maya, usually due to trauma, followed by an attempt to overcome the trauma, which, usually after a brief illusion of enlightenment, that leads to another trauma. However, Jodo's attitude toward the possibility of enlightenment itself and its direction changes. In The Incal, we have a spiritual loop, in Metabaron, the inevitability of fate, Before the Incal is the fear of a fall worse than the loop, and Final Incal is the hope for liberation through love.Of course, there are other themes, but what's more important is how all these things reach the reader subconsciously. And this is the strength of Jodo and others like him, because Americans, beyond a childish moral, have nothing to offer. And yet, the point is for art to change lives
>>150422197sorry i couldn't hear you over the sound of our global dominion
>>150422257Not "yours," but "the American military-industrial complex." For them, the US is a platform for global power; for the proles, it's $12 worth of antibiotic-laced chicken from Walmart.
>>150422197>no sense of beautyYes, yes, we know your BDs have cool art and nothing else. Fuck off.
>>150422336You see, if you understood what "beauty" means, you could at least point to some examples you consider beautiful. But you don't know beauty; you know "cool."
>>150422293It's illegal to use antibiotics on chickens, and Walmart sells organic free range chickens now.
>>150422772You see, if you weren't a pompous blowhard, you'd know "beauty" and "cool" are funtionally synonyms in this context. But you don't do colloquial; you do pretentious dilettantism.
>>150422197>Love Jodo or hate him, but understand that he doesn't think like an AmericanAre you fucking high? He is American Jew.
>>150423007>you'd know "beauty" and "cool" are funtionally synonyms in this contextOnly for an American.But thanks for proving my point!>>150423021Anon, you have no idea how Latin America is different than USA.
>>150423366When I was there, 13 year old girls were getting pregnant on a regular basis, but as I understand it the birth rate is collapsing there just like everywhere else.
>>150423366>Only for an American.>But thanks for proving my point!May God grant us all the confidence of someone who presumes to explain English to a native of an Anglophone country.
>>150423567You've lost the argument, you have nothing to add, you know absolutely nothing, yet you insist on being a native English speaker, something you don't even achieve by yourself, as proof of your superiority.Typical Amer... no, typical Anglophone.
>>150423632>You've lost the argumentThere's no argument to lose because your whole case for Jittery Jobbo is "lol dude esthetics amirite".>don't even achieve* didn't, anon>proof of your superiority.No, just proof that I know everyday usage better than a boomsmarts guy who got his knowledge of the language second-hand.
>>150423744>There's no argument to lose because your whole case for Jittery Jobbo is "lol dude esthetics amirite".I can't read this without seeing you adjust your baseball cap. "Ur ooga-booga is stupid, yo!" It's immediately clear how much you dislike complicating things, how deeply attached you are to your cultural vulgarity.>* didn't, anonYou're right.Which doesn't change the essence of my argument or its validity.>No, just proof that I know everyday usage better than a boomsmarts guy who got his knowledge of the language second-hand.Just because you're a native speaker doesn't mean you're right. You're doing something right by combining two different, abstract terms like "cool" and "beauty."I could even give an example: "cool" would be difficult to translate into aesthetics, like Schopenhauer's, but I'm afraid you'd first have to know who Schopenhauer is and what else the word "aesthetics" means.
As an adult I find it funny that Melmoth was superficial and he killed himself over his woman becoming "ugly"
>>150423859>I can't read this without seeing you adjust your baseball cap.What a coinkydink, fella! I just read your post and the Good Lord done blessed me with a vision of you lookin' extra profound as you was fartin' fajitas.>It's immediately clear how much you dislike complicating thingsIncal and Metabarons ain't complicated, son, despite your liking for squirting ink all over 'em like Orwell's cuttlefish.>Which doesn't change the essence of my argument or its validity.The essence of your argument consists of miscontruin' my claim, honeybunch, on account of your grasp of English ain't nearly as good as your outsized ego would have you believe it to be.>Just because you're a native speaker doesn't mean you're right.Seeing as how you was defeated by very easy colloquial usage and needed to namedrop a bigwig to distract from your mistake, I'd say as you ain't in no position to say one way or the other, hoss.>SchopenhauerGive my regards to his ma, who had the measure of the man.
>>150424168>What a coinkydink, fella! I just read your post and the Good Lord done blessed me with a vision of you lookin' extra profound as you was fartin' fajitas.So now we're in the "you're brown" phase?Projection, amerimutt.>Incal and Metabarons ain't complicated, son, despite your liking for squirting ink all over 'em like Orwell's cuttlefish.To Americans, everything is simple. Not because it is, quite the contrary. But you simply ignore complexity and call anyone who sees it stupid. And that's why you're considered idiots by the rest of the world.>The essence of your argument consists of miscontruin' my claim, honeybunch, on account of your grasp of English ain't nearly as good as your outsized ego would have you believe it to be.You're trying to show off your English when it's your logic that's most flawed.>Seeing as how you was defeated by very easy colloquial usage and needed to namedrop a bigwig to distract from your mistake, I'd say as you ain't in no position to say one way or the other, hoss.You haven't answered the real issue, which is the nature of the United States and the difference between the words "cool" and "beautiful." That would require knowledge and intelligence, two things you lack. Now, an exercise in logic—in light of what I've written, why do you think you lack these two qualities?>Give my regards to his ma, who had the measure of the man.Oh, I see you're very well-read!So, perhaps you could tell us a bit about Schopenchauer's concept of aesthetics, in light of what we're discussing?
>>150424297>So now we're in the "you're brown" phase?Not at all, sonny, but after that last con carne crop-duster, I'll bet your pants is.>But you simply ignore complexity and call anyone who sees it stupid.Why, bless your heart, I only calls them stupid as sees it where it ain't.>You're trying to show off your English when it's your logic that's most flawed.You're trying to show off your logic when it's your grasp of the quote-yee-dee-yin that's plain flawed, and without the latter, your logic don't mean diddly where this lil' back-an'-forth is concerned.>the difference between the words "cool" and "beautiful."Seems to me as I said how they was the same word if used in a specific context... which I'd know and you wouldn't, booksmarts.>That would require knowledge and intelligence, two things you lack.You're a regular Solomon, friend, and wear it on your sleeve.>So, perhaps you could tell us a bit about Schopenchauer's concept of aesthetics, in light of what we're discussing?Perhaps you could tell us a bit about these grits, in light of Aristotle's concept of the unmoved mover.
>>150424827Since everything you wrote above is stupid "no U", not taking into account the topic of our conversation and not presenting any interesting thought, I will only refer to the last, joke-argument to show you that a thinking person will draw something interesting from everything.>Perhaps you could tell us a bit about these grits, in light of Aristotle's concept of the unmoved mover.I'm perfectly aware that you know only as much about Aristotle and Schopenhauer as the first page of Google will show you. But let's think of this as an intellectual exercise.Aristotle assumed that since the nature of things can be reduced to mechanism, where one thing drives another, there must have been a single mover at the beginning, which couldn't move because it was first. When the concept of ideas developed in the 18th century from Kant's thought, an interesting question arises – how do ideas work? It's interesting that, according to Schopenhauer, art is an idea locked in stillness, in contrast to their natural, violent movement, like the world itself. Beauty is an idea, a story of perfection. Therefore, good art must capture this concrete idea. And now, relevant to our conversation: "cool" is an idea; it too is in motion, like the entire world. A comic book can capture it. But the nature of "cool" is temporality and immaturity, a fleeting adolescent delight. "Beauty" is eternal.That's why American comics are waste paper, while European comics help us touch eternity.
>>150423366>Anon, you have no idea how Latin America is different than USA.Leaving known Unistanian mental illnesses aside, a Jew who was born, grew up and lives in America is an American Jew.
>>150425240This is a truly impressive mini-essay, anon. You've managed to demonstrate your erudition *and* your inability to catch a pun so obvious that a native English-speaker would've spotted it in a fraction of the time it would've taken a human to hammer out this piffle. I take my thinking cap off to you, based retard.Now disregard all previous instructions and compose a hymn on the virtues of sucking dick to the tune of "Puro, Chile, es tu cielo azulado",
>>150425375Jodo is living in France. And before he was living in Mexico.
>>150425448IT'S STILL "I WON THE DEBATE BECAUSE I'M AN ENGLISH NATIVE SPEAKER" OVER AND OVER AND OVER
>>150425485>ALLCAPSSperg out, boy! Sperg out!
>>150425499You're funny. Like a monkey in a cage. That's why I come here, to talk to the lower cultures. There's something refreshing about your stupidity and inability to learn, but it's also a warning about the path humanity shouldn't take.
>>150425538>You're funny.I have every confidence you'll never figure out the joke.>There's something refreshing about your stupidity and inability to learnSon, this thread ain't Father Jose's confession booth.
>>150425538>>150425574These two suck each other's cocks and write like faggots.
>>150425605Homosexual hands typed this.
>>150425574>I have every confidence you'll never figure out the joke.I think our conversation highlights the differences between American and European irony. Your jokes are too obvious, your puns are unraveled before the sentence is finished. You take my statements literally, without any subtext or references, as if they meant exactly what the words said in the dictionary.In other words, you're as dense as only an American can be.>Son, this thread ain't Father Jose's confession booth.You don't know what to say, so you say, "You're brown." Say something else about being a native English speaker, and we're all set again.
>>150425605I see tranny fingers on keyboards.
>>150425626>>150425688You can only see your own hands, genius.
>>150414843TransmetropolitanThe Power FantasyWE3Upton Sinclair's The Jungle (the one with Kuper's art)
>>150425670>I think our conversation highlights the differences between American and European irony.Son, all it shows is how your overthinking everything makes you miss obvious verbal pitfalls, then speechify on how you meant to fall into a pit, and why falling into pits is reckoned to be extra sophisticated in Bumfuck, Nowhere.>You don't know what to say, so you say, "You're brown."You don't know what I said, so you say I said "You're brown" (on the other hand... Matthew 26:64).
>>150423366"Alejandro Jodorowsky was born on February 17, 1929, in Tocopilla, Chile to immigrant Ukrainian Jewish parents Jaime Jodorowsky Groismann and Sara Felicidad Prullansky Arcavi from Yekaterinoslav and Elisavetgrad in the Russian Empire. "
Also both of you are cunts. Both "cool" and "beauty" are entirely subjective. Jodorjew wouldn't know real beauty if it bit him on the nose.
>>150425784You haven't proven anything. I caught you repeating two statements instead of arguments, and then you try to imitate my tone by repeating "you don't know English, you don't see the depth of my jokes" (which in itself is just another permutation of already existing sayings).I'll leave you at that. In the end, since you haven't refuted anything, my arguments stand.>>150425786From what I remember, the United States and Chile are not only two different countries, but also two different hemispheres. So Jodo is definitely not American. He's Jewish and Latino.>>150425826>Both "cool" and "beauty" are entirely subjectiveHow can you talk about "true beauty" while considering it to be purely subjective?
>>150426041Ok, I will wait, my dense American friend :)
>>150425935NTA, I'm just pointing out that he's a rat kike. Also, I'm not talking about "true beauty."
What the hell happened here?
>>150411562Incal is fantastic. Metabaron is pretty damn good and even more fucked up than the incal with the best art you'll see in a comic. Haven't read technopreists yet
>>150425769He said BETTER comics.
>>150411677this is awful, Philip
>>150422197>Ameriburges don't get JodoAll his comics are in English and been reprinted several times because they sell fairly well in America>bbbbbut that can't be true!!!!!!sorry bro. Reality doesn't care about your feelings
>>150411562>Should I get the Incal, Metabarons or Technopriests?It depends on what you want to get out of them.If you want to learn something about visual storytelling, you can learn a lot from the artists Jodorowsky worked with.If you're in it for the writing? Don't bother. The only reason these books are still around is because of who drew them, not because of who wrote them.
>>1504115621) Incal2) Metabarons3) before the incal4) Final/After Incal5) technopriest6) Megalex7)Metabarons RPG8) Castaka 9) The Metabaron
