>Insider Alex Perez has shared some "unofficial" details, and he claims that the Wanda Maximoff we meet in Avengers: Doomsday will actually be a variant from the same universe as the X-Men. "This is a universe where Magneto is finally ruling Genosha as he had always pictured it; and we’d have a “royal family” type of situation with Magneto, Wanda, Quicksilver and Polaris”, he reveals. “This is an idea that has been pushed since Multiverse of Madness, and then Deadpool & Wolverine, but it never felt like the right fit because it takes away from the overall plot. However, the main point they would like to explore with Wanda is the father-daughter relationship with Magneto.">Perez was also asked what we can expect from Sir Ian McKellen's Magneto, and replied with the following quote: “A lifetime —several lifetimes— spent chasing haven after haven, promised land after promised land, and for what? Every time the gates of Eden slam shut in our faces, it breaks us a little more.”https://comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers-doomsday/avengers-doomsday-rumor-may-reveal-surprising-new-details-about-the-scarlet-witchs-role---spoilers-a223871
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>>150436867>the main point they would like to explore with Wanda is the father-daughter relationship with Magnetowhy? why this wanda too if she's ""technically"" not mcu wanda?this is so retarded it must be real
>>150437045>why this wanda too if she's ""technically"" not mcu wanda?The main number one problem with multiverse bullshit summed up right there
>>150436867>we’d have a “royal family” type of situation with Magneto, Wanda, Quicksilver and PolarisBendis won again
So are they going to retcon the retcon of the retcon in your retcon in the comics again
>>150436867Cool I'm just not going to watch anymore MCU shit though.
What in the ever loving fuck is going to be achieved by this movie
>>150437045MCU Wanda is dead
>>150437196Same thing that's achieved with all multiverse moviesFanservice with 80 year old actors
>>150436867This is the third different MCU movie that "insiders" have been pushing this "leak" for, like they're desperately trying to meme it into reality or something. There's also a whole group of people obsessed with bringing back the AU Wanda from MoM instead of the MCU Wanda just because that one "could" be Magneto's mutant daughter, and that's literally all they care about.Better if Olsen never comes back than this, especially pandering to those "royal family" idiots.
>>150437363>MCU Wanda is deadthe way she "died" makes it very easy for her to come back though. not that it would fucking matter anyways since this new plot point was absolutely not setup at all and will lead to nothing satisfactory (like the entire movie ig)
>>150437196hecking yummy quips, EPIC CROSSOVERS, and resetting the MCU
Wanda was in DofP.
>>1504371961 billion dollars with enough fanservice to appeal to the bootlicker normies (most of the planet) and the occasional hard line to make you think the writing isn't hard trash.
>>150436867If the next phase is Mutants, it feels like a waste to do Genosha or House of M this early
everything said about this film has been a total clusterfuck
>>150437690She was only alluded to. The sister that we see is Polaris.
>>150437716How much do normies even care though?Even the animation only guys are usually total autists
>>150436867Is this still set in the Fox-verse or is this a new universe?
>>150438791Considering the shits from MoM and Deadpool 3, it's another universe where the X-men have the same faces of the Foxverse
>>150436867Exciting!
>>150438791Slighty reset FoxVerse.
>>150440940Damn
>>150438791Better not be the fox-verse. Only reason they're in this movie is to be killed off.
>>150437148It'd be funny if the in-universe reaction is flat. Maybe have Quicksilver say he expects to hear he has another dad again next year.
>>150437574It doesn't really matter since the MCU is getting hit with the reset button after SW.>>150437515I don't think it's specifically that AU Wanda, just an AU Wanda that's closer to what Cartoonfags expect of her. And if Kamala becoming a mutant happened, I wouldn't be surprised if this happens as well.
>>150442023>MCU is getting hit with the reset button after SWIt isn't, though.
>>150438791>>150440940For the sake of simplicity they'll probably condense the different X-Men timelines into a single universe, the one seen in D&W. That one already retconned Logan to be in the Deadpool timelines, despite contradicting previous statements.
>>150442213It's a soft reset. Some actors will continue their roles while older ones are recast. The entire point is to make a single timelines where the Avengers, X-Men and FF have always co-existed.
>>150442023>just an AU Wanda that's closer to what Cartoonfags expect of her.There's something seriously wrong with the idea that what aging fans of old X-Men cartoons want for Wanda being treated as more important than what her own fans want for her. It's retarded that they finally tried something different for once and she actually took off as a character, and it just mindbroke these people.In the current climate shouldn't a character like Magneto just be quietly retired anyway?
>>150442424Anon, you know comic books are below cartoons in the list of importance. At least to public perception.And you're never retiring Magneto as a character.
Can someone explain how the foxmen timeline goes?
>>150436867>and PolarisBro, please, whatever you want to drag the twins back into undo the evil that is this.Free Lorna from this curse.Also get Emma Dumont. She's gone through a lot, but I'm sure squeezing her into a form fitting costume could help.Me. Could help me.
>>150442499As I understood:>X-1 -> X-2 -> X-3 -> DoFP -> Logan -> Deadpool and Wolverine
>>150442450And movies and acclaimed live-action television are above decades-old cartoons in public perception. The idea that the MCU needs to conform to what X-Men cartoons from the 90s and 2000s did is nonsensical.And if Sabra is "too problematic", Magneto sure is.
>>150442536Where do Deadpool 1 and 2 fit in that timeline?
>>150442545You can't have the X-Men without Magneto.
>>150442536Pretty sure The Wolverine goes between X-3 and DoFP
>>150442524Emma Dumont transitioned into a man. He is Nick Dumont now.
>>150442524>>150442593What the happened to her? She used to be so pretty.
>>150442576Because X-Men has to keep telling the same story again and again and no other character can possibly fill that role? He's not even filling his own role himself anymore in the comics, the comics could retire him and it wouldn't even matter anymore. There's no reason the MCU can't try to think outside the box and do something new.
>>150437716Even if it made 1 billion dollars, this shit is so expensive due to the cast and paying the Russos 80 million that it still won't break even.
>>150442593Bro she looks like Matthew Lilard now
>>150442499>X1-Origins: fairly simple, nothing that would contradict anything else in a major capacity >First Class: originally planned to be a reboot, was later reframed as a prequel; as such, numerous plot holes appear as the age of some characters don't add up and events start contradicting each other.DofP: tries to reconcile them and by the end a new timeline is created, allowing for a new canon without contradictions. It leads to nothing since the timelines still fuck up after it.>Deadpool duology: PROBABLY set in the new timeline, but again characters are re-formulated and the prequel cast even make a cameo, despite the films taking place in the present.>Logan: treated as a TDKR type of deal, an alternate universe used to give a character closure. Altough events from previous movies are still alluded to.>Deadpool & Wolverine: retcons Logan into taking place in the same continuity as the Deadpool films, despite the enormous evidence that it wasn't originally the case.Honestly D&W lost an opportunity at taking a jab at the clusterfuck of a continuity these movies had, specially given the involvement of the TVA.
>>150442593No no no. We have the technology, we can still save her!
>>150442609>No other character can possibly fill that role?Unironically no
>>150442545>moviesWanda has never been too prominent in the movies until they decided 'okay, time to do Crazy Wanda'. Also, pretty much every video about her would mention the Magneto thing anyway, so it's not like it was a forgotten secret.>televisionThe one who's legacy is 'Ralph Boner' and 'They'll never know what you sacrificed for them'?
>>150442628>jabbing at the movies you're trying to exploit for nostalgiaYou're not very smart anon.
kek this one obsessed Wandafag needs to be placed on suicide watch.She will always be Magneto's daughter, fucking deal with it.
>>150442657Besides, Deadpool already did that.
Wanda is the only one of Magneto's kid he actually cares about. Lorna is just there and Pietro hates him.
>>150442657Exceept the movie already does that. Plus there's a difference between taking a piss and make an affectionate satire.
>>150442674>>150442716'Stewart or Mcawoy' joke is less bashy then having the TVA complain about how the movie continuity doesn't make any sense.
>>150442693>I had a powerless daughter once, and the humans killed her. So I'm investing all my stocks into this witch that got really powerful when I wasn't involved.
>>150442693>Wanda is the only one of Magneto's kid he actually cares about.This is largely a meme. He just fights her less because she's usually in Avengers books and not in the same stories as him, so he's had less opportunities to try and kill her.
>>150442644>Also, pretty much every video about herAnon, stop watching comics Youtubers for your own good.>The one who's legacy is 'Ralph Boner' and 'They'll never know what you sacrificed for them'?>A show's legacy with people who hate-watched it is it's entire legacy>Not how fans remembered it>Not the awards or nominations>Only what the haters say matter>Who cares if half of them are culture war grifters and the others X-fags still seething about Ralph Bohner?>>150442669>fucking deal with it.Never. You can't show people what freedom tastes like and then take it away from them. What you want is objectively worse than what we have now.
>>150442857I'm not watching them, but the normalfags do.And ending can absolutely tank a show. Just look at GoT or hell, for a Marvel example, FatWS's 'do better' speech.And I think 'Ralph Bohner' was a stupid idea from the beginning. Why bait people with FOX Quicksilver if you didn't have any plans for it? Especially in the Multiverse saga where people could realistically expect some Multiverse shit.
>>150443037>Ralph BohnerArguably the moment the MCU started to loose casuals' good will
>>150442605Same thing that happened to Ellen Page. They hit 30, panic that they’re no longer young and cute, and go full troon.
>>150436867fuckin finally
>>150443098Think that was Quantamania/Love and Thunder
>>150443261I'd argue those were the breaking point, but the complaints had already started to accumulate before.
>>150443332Was Bohner before or after Do Better!?
>>150443791Right before
>>150443877okay, thanks, then I guess the argument is thereThrough I feel like people made fun of 'Do better' even more.
>>150443098>casuals>giving a single shit about this sperglord deep cut>going so far as to assume a headcanon about it based on 'actor appeared in another property in a role that would be amusing here, so it must be the same character even though that would cause all sorts of problems and wouldn't be invoked in a tv spinoff with no setup'ok
>>150444039FOX Quicksilver had a super popular scene (to the point movie speedsters are still copying it), so he was known.Also, it's kinda natural to assume that the same character played by the same actor is that character. Especially when you announce a 'Multiverse Saga' and have a character with powers capable of fucking with reality.
I wonder how shit will they do the Quicksilver effects. Will they use the foxmen or the slav one?
>>150437866yeah that's common with fan theories, I mean, """"""""""leaks""""""""""""
>>150444093>FOX Quicksilver had a super popular scene (to the point movie speedsters are still copying it)SWEET DREAMS ARE MADE OF THIS
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>>150442669Yeah how dare he actually care about the characters actual personality and defining history instead of being reduced to a narrative prop for the geriatric mass murderer with a hypocritical victim complex and sanctimonious streak despite being a dictator for decades.
>>150436867It's amazing that every piece of information I hear about this makes me want to see it less.
Wanda is going to get new children and resolve her issues with Tony by fucking Doom.
>>150436867>Sir Ian McKellen's MagnetoThe man is literally 86 years old, it seems inhumane to put that amount of pressure on him.
>>150446033>Kevin...why are we filming all my scenes first?... Kevin...
people watched infinity war and endgame because their friends did everyone was just supposed to and know what was going on. no one is going to watch this it's gonna bomb hard
