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How can this show be so ass that the fanfics are better?
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>>150438808
It was made by Texan gamer weebs. What were you expecting?
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>the fanfics are better
Prove it.
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>>150438879
Yang still likes boys.
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>>150438935
You need to get a life.
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>>150438847
>It was made by Texan gamer weebs.
Monty was the only weeb. The others just wanted to make their own Avatar but gayer.
>>150438879
>Prove it.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13853215/1/The-Choices-We-Make
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>>150438950
I dun wanna
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>>150438808
its helluva boss/hazbin hotel before vivziepop started to make those series
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>>150438808
I would like to see more of her they send it to kill the off the way they did and then the guys like l we suggest blame the people who defend everyone of assassinating her despite the fact they have no reason to kill her because they let furnace in all the time to become Hunters.
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>>150438808
Not a high bar
But also, idk
I've read fanfics for, say, asoiaf that have actually good prose. I have read enjoyable RWBY fanfics but nothing with actually good prose
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>>150439130
>good prose
Bro, I don't care about that shit. I just want a solid entertaining story with endearing characters.
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>>150438847
>Texan gamer weebs
Miles and Kerry weren't even weebs, which is part of why it's so ass
Also it's remarkable how much better miles was at writing rvb than rwby
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>>150439143
>I don't want my written media to be well written
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>>150439157
>Also it's remarkable how much better miles was at writing rvb than rwby
Because it's more his speed. He's completely out of his element with RWBY.
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>>150438808
The thing you gotta understand about RWBY is that it was always just meant to be a passion project for Monty. It was greenlit back when Burnie was still in control of Roosterteeth as effectively a "gift" to monty for all his excellent work he had done on Red vs Blue. However by the time the show actually started going into production, Burnie had step down from CEO and this caused a rift in the direction of the series. As you now had a conflict of interest as to what each side wanted RWBY to be.

Roosterteeth wanted RWBY to be like an actual franchise/product that they could sell.

Monty just wanted a vehicle for him to show off his anime fight scenes.

What Monty wanted from the show is why RWBY has so many of it's problems. Monty didn't give that much of a shit about the actual story of the show. All he cared about were the fight scenes, anime girls and the transforming weapons. Hell he fucking used a splat of ketchup as the basis for Remnant's world.

This complete lack of interest is a big reason why the writing sucks. Obviously he didn't do the writing, but what writers that were assigned he just gave them a list of anime to watch to get an idea of what his vague ideas were. Thus resulting in alot of anime tropes/cliches that are omnipresent from the start of the show (for example ruby being a gothic lolita type but uses a comically large weapon), in truth what Monty had indirectly done was make the perfect setup for an anime parody series.

This is why I think RWBY Chibi worked so well, the series already had the skeleton of a parody, however instead of embracing it, they took it 100% seriously, writing flaws and all.

It's no wonder Miles and Kerry could never fix the series, it was flawed from the start. Didn't help when Monty would just add shit to scenes or change things and the writers then had to accommodate for the changes last minute.
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>>150439143
I'm not going to read your shit if the vocabulary is cringe. I yelled at a Naruto fic writer a year ago for writing kids like they were 4chan posters.
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>>150439196
>Monty didn't give that much of a shit about the actual story of the show.
Dude, the Maidens literally came from him because he had a hard-on for Final Fantasy 8. So much of it is just FF8 but worse.
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>>150439157
>sword art online
>over fucking gurren lagann
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>>150439223
>I'm not going to read your shit if the vocabulary is cringe
For saying bro and shit? My guy, go outside. Quit being a weird fuck.
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>>150439157
> how much better miles was at writing rvb than rwby
I liked season 11 and there were parts of season 12 I thought were good, but season 13 was really dumb and weighed down by bad ideas. I think Dumbass was just crutching on pre-established material that mostly understands its tone rather than whatever cargo cult RWBY was trying to be.
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>>150439255
That's my point anon. He just grabbed whatever shit he liked and shoved it into his story. It wasn't done with any thought it just served the ultimate purpose of "how can I make this fight more epic?"

The entire concept of semblances only exists to serve this purpose. The maidens do the same.
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>>150439188
Bro, I ain't a fucking nerd with his head up his ass. I just wanna be entertained for a bit.
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>>150439223
There's like tiers to it too
There's actual garbage tier, where the author is obviously either young, completely inept, or an obvious ESL. Weirdly constructed sentences, ESL tells so obvious that you can figure out what his native language is, dialogue that just doesn't flow, stuff writing, shit that at the very best needs a couple of passes over by an editor
Then there's readable tier, where the writing is technically fine just sorta flat. The fic might be memorable for scenarios or references but it's nothing special
But occasionally you run into something that's actually well written. Either the author is legitimately funny, or can actually write well
These three tiers are very very highly correlated with overall fic quality
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>>150439267
You need to understand that nobody at Roosterteeth was an anime fan. Oum just dumped a bunch of shows on their lap as homework and told them "This is what I want to make".
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>>150439324
>The entire concept of semblances only exists to serve this purpose. The maidens do the same.
Why have the maidens if semblances exist? Just make stronger semblances. Or come up with classifications for semblances that determine how powerful and dangerous they are.
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>>150439306
His episode in 10 is one of the best episodes of the best season of the show
I enjoyed 11-13, watching 13 week by week was legitimately very fun. Yeah it rushed itself to the last arc and the fights were mediocre but it was still a solid run of seasons
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>>150439346
>But occasionally you run into something that's actually well written. Either the author is legitimately funny, or can actually write well
Yeah, and they're called "unicorns", because THEY DON'T EXIST.
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>>150439157
This reminds me of the RT Podcast where Kerry tried explaining Persona to Geoff and Gus and the look of sheer disgust they gave him was hilarious
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>>150439389
Like I said above, there's a couple of legitimately well written asoiaf fics out there, I guess that property just attracts better writers for fan works. Makes sense I guess
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>>150439157
Because unlike RWBY, RvB is just halo fanfiction. Literally all the major concepts from Red vs Blue are just elements that already exist in Halo, just altered a bit to fit their story.

So you take the halo things and combine them with some comedy writing and you have red vs blue.

>>150439373
Because you gotta have power escalation.
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>>150439406
Kerry's the type of retard to recommend monogatari to someone who's never watched anime before
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>>150439431
>Because you gotta have power escalation.
Stronger semblances. Simple. Or transformations. Basic battle shonen shit.
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>>150439431
> Because you gotta have power escalation
How about you actually fucking use the ideas you already have instead of tossing in every single new idea you get the moment it comes to mind
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>>150439431
I feel like there's some escalation steps they skipped over between civil rights terrorists and immortal queen of evil though.
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>>150439476
Ruby also has silver eyes that give her special powers. That is different from her semblance.
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>>150439508
The Civil Rights thing gets forgotten once Blake's crazy ex boyfriend dies.
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What rwby fics are you guys reading?
I'm enjoying Remnant Light
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>>150439582
Just another layup they fucked up for no reason. You have a perfectly fine brooding and edgy terrorist for a mid tier reoccurring antagonist and you toss him aside for carpet muncher bait.
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>>150439476
This one youtuber came up with this idea to have Penny, Sun, Velvet and Cardin on the same team to avoid character bloat and streamline the story. Having Cardin and Velvet as partners could've been interesting, along with Sun and Penny as a sort of reference to Goku and Arale, both Toriyama creations.
>>150439547
>Ruby also has silver eyes that give her special powers
It's just a flashbang, bro.
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>>150439582
It's very funny how they accidentally made Adam too cool in the trailer and then just made him an uncle ex
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>>150439650
>You have a perfectly fine brooding and edgy terrorist for a mid tier reoccurring antagonist and you toss him aside for carpet muncher bait.
Dude never met Weiss. Imagine her seeing the branding, but nah. Blake's dumb bitch VA wanted to vent about her ex at the expense of the characters and setting.
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>>150439737
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>>150439652
>This one youtuber
Celtic Phoenix is a reaction drama parasite.
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>>150438808
Three things.
>No plans. It started as a passion project and then lost all its passion when the mad genius behind it died. All that was left were egomaniacs and virtue signalers.
>Modular design. The setting and characters were built for pitch appeal and not for any kind of planned narrative, so being a major source of fanfic was guaranteed.
>They aren't. At least not all of them, it's the sheer vastness of the setting and lack of real competition from the source that makes it look so pronounced.
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>>150439841
>virtue signalers
The people who make up RT are right-leaning dudebros who believe in nothing.
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>>150439737
>Why weren't Ruby and Weiss on opposite teams? They were obvious rivals. Literally her Draco Malfoy.
>Blake should've still been part of the White Fang, with her going to Beacon to assassinate Weiss
>Having Weiss and Blake as partners should've been a no-brainer. Whole lot of juicy conflict there.
>maybe make Adam Jacques Schnee's bastard, creating an interesting dynamic between him and Weiss. That way, the 3 are brought into each other's bullshit for a better story.
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>>150439823
>Celtic Phoenix
Different youtuber.
>>150439895
>The people who make up RT are right-leaning dudebros who believe in nothing
You got actual autism if you believe that. They were just a bunch of millenial dweebs pretending to be dudebros. They're nerds.
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>>150439895
>RT are right-leaning dudebros
I see this take sometimes from tumblr and I have literally never understood it
they are generic austinite libs
like, maybe the old heads like matt and burnie were quietly conservative but probably not, joel was the token actual conservative
but the younger generation? 100% liberal, and this only accelerated once rt got a "le young hip queer" fanbase
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>>150440028
>I see this take sometimes from tumblr and I have literally never understood it
Because one guy called somebody a faggot so RT's "literally hitler".
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>>150439976
>You got actual autism if you believe that
You saw all the same shit as I have. Tell me they believe in anything after watching them copy the Equalists in Korra and completely fail to understand they were already a bad idea in the material they were stealing from.
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>>150440083
the whole kdin thing was so funny because, yeah michael and gavin called him fuggs as short for faggot but also he fucking loved racist humor himself, so it's a classic case of millennial libs falling out and then backstabbing each other over jokes they used to all be chill with
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How is this for guys if the leads are all girls?
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>>150440093
Bro, you're autistic. They're just shit writers.
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Apologize
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>>150440245
why would I apologize when I never doubted him?
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>>150440244
Believing in nothing and being cowardly bellweathers is part of what makes them shit writers.
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>>150440333
that doesn't make them right leaning you retard
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>>150440350
They're from Texas and they don't pay their labor.
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>>150440433
>They're from Texas and they don't pay their labor.
You're retarded.
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So is Volume 10 dead (also calling it volumes rather than seasons is dumbs. At best, it supposed to play into the book theme.)
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>>150440784
>So is Volume 10 dead
It's in the writing and planning stages. Still hasn't been greenlit, so there's no production.
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>>150438879
Wise as an Old Qrow
Legit made me like Raven as a character
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>nuked Vale off-screen
>has half of the relics
>the only kingdom she didn't touch is a desert shithole that was already suffering from resource shortages before they got an influx of refugees
>the world's most powerful military is practically gone
>and no one STILL has any idea on how to stop her
SALEM WON
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>>150440958
>Tyrian: "Incredible work my goddess"
>Salem: "Tyrian I didn't do shit"
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>>150440784
Avatar.
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>>150440958
the whole point of salem is strength will bring them no victory but no ones figured that out. they gotta do some different bs.
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>>150439223
>I yelled at a Naruto fic writer
That's sad. You could just read something else.
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>>150442161
He was shilling his fic in a storytime thread on /a/. Felt tempted to look since I had nothing better to do.
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>>150438808
because RWBY is pulling from Monty's love of shonen anime, fighting games, and Squeenix JRPGs while making it easy to self-insert into, and giving it its own unique identity

>Final Fantasy 7 + 8 but smashed together with Soul Eater and Bleach, and then fairy tales + alchemy

the only real error Monty and the writers made was pulling from ATLA and LOTR, and then not making the story more like a traditional JRPG or pulling from Evangelion and Twin Peaks (the two things that inspired every JRPG and anime that Monty loved by proxy or by sheer power of indirect or direct influence)

if RWBY ever gets a reboot, it needs to be more psychological and melodramatic, more like a mystery story, and embrace its JRPG roots
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Theres probably fanfics where Blake doesn't cut her hair.
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>>150438808
There are many such cases. Smallville. Stargate Atlantis. Stuff like that. Interesting characters and a fun cast dynamic are rocket fuel for fanfics, even when the actual show is dumb as a bunch of rocks.
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>>150438808
Hey, stealing these thread posts. Can someone contact the fag mods on this board? They kill RWBY threads because they're jealous.They're faggot losers and don't like how much Aryan SOUL is in RWBY. Now that RoosterTeeth fags are dead, we need to be allowed to have RWBY threads. A RWBY thread a month ago was killed for no reason. Fuck these fag mods.
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>>150439255
I am just now seeing the resemblance FF8.
I feel really stupid.
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>>150442847
Okay?
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>>150439255
I'm not familiar with this game. Please connect the dots for me, which of these characters are were used to create RWBY characters?
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>>150438808
the base universe has the combination of both being interesting and vague (because the writers cant figure out their own lore) enough to have a good starting point for fanfics. the cast is already made up of self inserts as well as somehow making characters in their own show feel like fanfic OCs. since characters are based on fables, myths and children's stories, so you already have a basis to build your own characters from. fanfic is better than the show because the show isnt very good.

its actually why i find the show so fascinating and keep watching it despite knowing its not very good. there's enough potential and lots of ways they can take the story and character interactions, and yet they almost always fuck it up. you could technically argue that since Montys death, the whole show is already fanfiction itself.
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>>150439547
don't forget that straight up magic is a real and entirely separate power in this universe.

as a side note, i do find it funny how Ruby never seemed to be interested in her eye powers and never bothered to ask about it.
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>>150440841
i know they weren't exactly confident they were going to get a volume 10 at all (which kind of makes volume 9 even more strange), but id have assumed they would at least have had it written and story boarded before now.
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>>150438808
As someone who's read and written fanfics for multiple different shows and communities I'm generally not a fan of that sentiment because a fanfic has so many less rules, restrictions, and requirements and is already borrowing 90% of its material. The hard part has already been done for you. So there are some great fics out there and RWBY is a flawed at best series but this is still something I don't like to say about any show. Unless it's one of the truly bad shows/properties out there which I don't believe RWBY to be, it's not that awful.
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>>150440998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUAusGiRqOU
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They da best
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>>150444326
It's definitely easier, but it's not effortless. The number of people who can write well and care to do fanfics isn't big, especially for actual rewrites. I've seen maybe 2 fics that could be considered RWBY rewrites and were actual improvements, and they still had flaws of their own. Same with other IPs.
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>>150438808
Is Coeur still the best RWBY fanfic writer despite being the biggest Jaunefag?
the guy is a writing machine.
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>>150438808
was just a conduct for Monty's autism. also trump broke them. Hail Ironwood
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>>150438935
but Yang is made for Weiss
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>>150445732
Couer is not a Jaunefag and doesn't like Jaune. The most popular Jaune writers - Couer, Selene Sokal, CyanideSins - do not, in fact, like Jaune at all. He is just useful.

Couer is still the most consistent RWBY writer still but he is not the best. I would say there are a few who can take that spot like Erised or the aforementioned Selene (who, despite not liking Jaune, can actually write him well) but it mostly depends on genre. Or even what type of relationships you are looking for, as those two tend to prefer harems...as do the most popular authors for obvious reasons.
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>>150445764
Weiss is made for Jaune.
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>>150445772
Jaune is made for the meatgrinder and his fans alongside him
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>>150445769
To me the funniest thing about Couer's fics is he had made so many AU Jaune fanfics he literally had enough of them to pit them against each other in a battle royale fic, I just am always amused by fanfic crossovers with other fanfics.
Oh also how he almost never lets Pyrrha win, funniest shit.
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>>150445775
Jaune is based and yang is made to be a seething old catlady
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>>150445781
you jaunefags make personnality traits up for him. He's a fucking bore, as expected of Miles self-insert.
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>>150445787
Seething
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>>150445796
>a litteral /trash/man tries to act mighty
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>>150445787
>t.
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>gets trapped in a fantasy world for decades
>nothing but him years of crippling loneliness and grief
>but never gives into despair
>loyally waits for his friends to arrive so they can find a way home together
There really is no reason to make up personality traits for him, he's the absolute best bro and full of raw determination.
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>>150445815
Who is making up personality traits for him? That's an accusation from some faggot chimping out
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>>150445815
We will get a series devoted to him.
It's only a matter of time.
>inb4 he already has a series devoted to him, it's called RWBY.
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>>150439734
Kek, KGB really is just like RWBY. Peaks early, and then goes to shit.
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>>150445884
Should've just made the show about Jaune and Ruby. They would've worked better as partners anyway.
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>>150438808
>>150438847
Reminder that this was the "talent" Roosterteeth was working with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsxnOkq07cc
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>>150438879
There’s RWBeyond. It had a better origin for Ozpin and Salem, and had most of the characters in straight pairings.
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>>150439638
Honkers
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>>150445764
Yang is made for Jaune
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>>150445764
aye
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>>150447150
Ugh
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I liked the Curious Cat
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>>150447238
Still better than Catpiss.
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>>150438808
This is that show about the K-pop singers fighting demons or something right? And they’re all lesbians?
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>>150438808
Because it hits that perfect sweet spot where it’s got a good enough premise, interesting enough world, and entertaining enough characters to drive engagement, but flubs the execution poorly enough that it leaves fans feeling unfulfilled but not scorned. Thus, fanfiction flourishes.
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>>150447380
Stop looking at twitter and tumblr
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>>150447380
You're thinking of symphogear
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>>150447422
Scarletposter breaking containment
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If RWBY comes back I hope they let Yang have boobs again
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>>150439196
>The thing you gotta understand about RWBY is that it was always just meant to be a passion project for Monty. It was greenlit back when Burnie was still in control of Roosterteeth as effectively a "gift" to monty for all his excellent work he had done on Red vs Blue.
This is a half-truth but it's basically confirmed at this point that Burnie had definitely seen RWBY as a potential market due to the weeb market having still gone untapped
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>>150447492
Yeah, Burnie didn't get anime (uoh that's my uncuru) but knew it was a market
And that's fine, they just grabbed the gay and retarded part of the western anime community because they didn't know how the market worked
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When I watch Ruby I can't get a sense of location, especially after the fall of Beacon. Where are these niggas, where are they going, what are they doing, etc.
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>>150447506
>they just grabbed the gay and retarded part of the western anime community because they didn't know how the market worked
Exactly. Battle shounen is what sells, but the morons decided to make their leads all girls and put them in school. You know what else does that shit?
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I still hold the opinion that RWBY feels like if your school’s anime club was given a budget to make their own show.



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