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why is every new indie pilot just:
>gay furries
>all 20ish years old
>every character is a loser
>they all work shitty jobs at mcdonald's o algo
>irony and internet references
>pseudo 90s cartoon style
what the fuck is this shit? at least i can rest easy knowing that NONE of them have or ever will get on air.
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>>150467977
Because the world is shit, there's nothing to live for, and indulging in fantasies is something only retarded children do. Genuinely how old are you, anon? Because one way or another, you're telling on yourself.
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>>150468031
the whole premise of these cartoons are self-indulgent because they're so transparently self-inserts. also kill yourself THOUGH
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>>150467977
YouTube doesn't allow any fun thanks to normalfags. Go ahead & make a High School DxD or Kill La Kill rip off, & see how quickly you get demonitized because of "sexually expict material"
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>>150468031
>indulging in fantasies is something only retarded children do.
if you're this dead inside then just kill yourself already you miserable faggot
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Why can't more indie shows take inspiration from good shows instead of hazbin hotel
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>>150467977
instead it will be available on streaming service prime video
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>>150468551
>childish bullshit is good, actually!
Your parents failed you cause they didn't beat you enough as a kid, you pathetic invalid.
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>>150468703
You are on a board centered around comic books and cartoons, have some self awareness.
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>>150468755
Medium is irrelevant. Wanting childish fantasy makes you childish.
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>>150468031
It's time for /co/ to grow up
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>>150468031
Good bait
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A couple weeks ago I wrote a rough script making light fun of these kinds of animations, I'm considering cleaning up the script and taking it to animatic form, would a jokey version of something like this be interesting/worth watching?
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Guys post a black man, a nigger, George droid anything I need an excuse to reply with a gif
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>>150469651
only if it visciously insults these sorts of shows and the people who make/watch them
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>>150468515
Why do you immediatly jump to cartoon sex? Is that the only different thing that could be done? The type of cartoons that op is talking about usually have that anyway.
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>>150468885
This is me but with sitcoma from the late 70's/80's
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>>150467977
because the people who actually have the balls to go after making what they want and see it through to the end wanted to make stuff featuring
>gay furries
>all 20ish years old
>every character is a loser
>they all work shitty jobs at mcdonald's o algo
>irony and internet references
>pseudo 90s cartoon style
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>>150467977
I feel like the only ones doing impressive or cool shit in animation are people using blender.

If I wanna see stuff with guns or action then I know there's instantly a bunch of blender animators who will provide that.
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What if they tried making an animated show based primarily around action scenes and combat

Also I will get Izzy pregnant and move to new zealand
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>>150470746
>because the people who actually have the balls to go after making what they want and see it through to the end
would be more accurate to say "because the people who want to make that or see that are the only ones who've got accepted in animation schools for the last dozen years, while normal guys who want to make shows for normal people get kicked to the curb"
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>>150467977
>>150468056
I agree that all of these are very self-indulgent furry crap. The reason Digital Circus blew up was because it was actually a high concept thing with fun characters. All of these other shows have bland characters and no concept but being miserable trying to ape some 2000s show but never doing it right. It's annoying. None of them will ever get picked up.
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>>150470783
Aww yeah the admissions head at Cal Arts is stopping millions of normal people from drawing a few hundred pictures in the privacy of their own home and slopping them together in capcut
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>>150469651
I did the same thing but with analog horror mascot shit. And it turned out a lot better than I was expecting. I might actually go through with it. If fucking Pan Pizza can make a fucking pilot than I have no excuses at this point might as well make some shit.
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>>150467977
What cartoon is this describing other than Lackadaisy and LS Mark's?
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>>150467977
Wastelandia is just terminally online misery porn how the fuck are you going to get a full show out of this? If it looked like Big Mouth rather than having furries then nobody would watch it.
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>>150470362
Heres some sections from the script (its rough sorry)
>>150470830
You should go through with it. Mascot horror is bound to get some kind of audience. I'm honestly supirsed that no one has seemed make something like that in the indie sphere. Mind sharing what you made?
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>>150468031
/thread
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>>150470935
first bit was better than the second desu but i like it
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>>150468031
Ok...can we have more animations based on actual history/ science documentaries then? I like those and would be happy if more animation talent was funneled there
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I watched this and it was a whole lot of nothing. It's losercore art but not the funny or interesting kind. Just bland and boring. Uhhh I go on reddit ohhh someone called me cringe at work I go to art class then the pilot ends.

Bridge Kids is way better if you're looking for a web series about total fucking losers.
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>>150470935
not far enough
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>>150468031
>>150468703
You sound like a dumb nigger
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>>150470673
>Why do you
NTA but that's YouTube for you. Even if your cartoon isn't sexually explicit in the slightest, one character (likely female) showing any more skin than absolutely necessary is an instant flagging.
Animating is a lot of (not so hard) work. Nobody wants to spend months on an animation only to be told you won't be making any money out of it.
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>>150467977
Entertainment is determined by the culture. So if you got a Loser Culture your entertainment will be Loser Failure Shit in concept. And generation Millennials, Z, and Alpha WILL be big time losers in life. The last generation to have nice affluence were Gen X. Loser generations make trash entertainment.

And this problem extends beyond indie. Even major companies keep making shit about loser main characters or celebrating criminals as heroes like Despicable Me or Zootopia (Judy is a corrupt cop) for example.

We are living in a Shit Culture and this is why the entertainment is shitty like that. And no its not going to get better. If anything with all the whining about ai and tech replacing human labor the entertainment will get worse.
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>>150470808
>None of them will ever get picked up.
The people who create these are not the same artists who give a fuck about that
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>>150468725
Trash pilot but she looks cute at least.
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>>150467977
>indie animation 12 years ago: this is what my life is like
>indie animation now: this is what my life is like
don't believe me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WKfgbUkSug
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>>150471954
Holy fuck you're right
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>>150467977
Because things that are actually interesting like solid action, drama, or good writing overall take more skill and talent than just “gay loser furries working wagie jobs and complaining”
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>>150472035
>looks
She is pretty much a knock off of Isabelle and looks fine. The rest of it is shit.
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>>150472035
>And hearing the fat dog trash bitch whine about how her sister is skinnier than her and more successful made me go "No wonder your parents disowned you. You truly are an embarrassment."
The character idea here is valid, being constantly compared to the "good kid" is soul crushing. The kind of parent who does this is literally impossible to please.
But the way it's done here is boring and unlikable because the people who made the pilot are boring and unlikable.
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>>gay furries
Ironically actual gay furfags make way better content (e.g. Bedfellows). This was made by tranny furries, which are so, so much worse.
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>>150467977
almost all of those descriptors could describe Regular Show
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>>150471853
dxd and kill la kill are dogshit. that said, ben 10, generator rex, and avatar all fit the bill of western shounenslop that you're so desperate for.
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>>150472172
what if- and just hear me out- what if we got a cartoon made by straight furries. Yeah? Heterosexual furries. How about that?
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>>150472316
Heterosexual furries make porn where the money is
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>>150472236
regular show is off the wall insane shit 24/7. their "job" only serves to set up whatever solar-level deity they have to kill this week. and that's why it's good.
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>>150467977
because these are the people who WANT to make new Indie animated shows. If the show that you want isn't being made then you gotta be the change you want to see.
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>>150470935
I could see this cartoon in my head in HD. I'm a little out of practice when it comes to animating but if you're serious, send a message to my throwaway email: jadivid354@cerisun.com with a way to get a hold of you later.
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>>150472422
Yeah well I hate Kingdom Hearts.
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>>150467977
knights of gwen just came out and the characters aren't furries
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>>150467977
maybe because they are made by 20-something year olds who project their miserable lives through an animated medium
which is curious because when you look at the indie animated stuff that gets attention is mostly made by either older more established and well known creators or younger teens who struck gold out of nowhere because they made a passion project that resonated with other teens and kids
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>>150467977
They are technically creative but not creative in writing. So they write about themselves or scenarios they can empathize with which is very close to their lives or lives they have observed.

This is why they need writers.
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>>150470935
Echoing the other anon, it was alright at first but fell apart in the second half.

See, it's totally fine to make a parody or deconstruction of something, but ultimately you still need to make the characters enjoyable to watch. In the second half of this page, it comes off too much like you're seething rather than pokong fun at the people who unironically make this sorta stuff, at which point someone like me will go "ok yeah, i think i get the point" and click off. People don't actually like ragebait traps.
I'd say, this concept has potential if you start the characters out like you did, but made it a story about them pushing forward and having to mature (probably failing at it, but give some hope for them in there. Let the viewers have a reason to root for them, even if they're currently social failures). Otherwise, you're falling into the same trap as the videos you're trying to parody.
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>>150472628
I'm pretty sure the twist is going to be that the gwen android is basically "alive" so they essentially saved her from being killed for parts. Andi only stole from that shopkeeper because he wouldn't sell Andi anything. They're thieves but I wouldn't say they're unlikable.
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>>150467977
To be honest you would be better off if you ignore all the animations with "pilot" on the title and look for the stuff that doesn't pretend they will be something big and are made just for the passion of making animations.
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>>150468031
a lot of these gen z driven indie animations dont even reflect a hard life. just slight inconveniences.
right now the biggest villain in indie animation is a purple rabbit whos biggest crime is being kind of rude.
why are zoomzooms so fickle towards conflict?
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>>150472958
I guess anon struck a nerve with that choice.
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>>150467977
>everyone was shitting on cable animated shows for having nothing but scenes of characters standing and talking
>indies went down that same route to thunderous applause
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Regarding the whole "losers trying to make it while working shitty jobs"
That's nothing new. Friends took off entirely because Gen Xers who were starting families later than the boomers did found it much more appealing than the family sitcom dynamics of the shows before it. This is just the extension in appealing to a generation who have come to view their own college degrees as worthless scraps of paper
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>>150472795
Going by that approach I get shit like pic related getting millions of views and a creator getting hundreds of thousands middle schooler subscribers and somehow achieving more success than the average indie animation OP is complaining about
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>>150473144
You know what else is shit? Kingdom Hearts.
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>>150472316
Zoomers have been conditioned by feminists to hate straight men so that's not an option
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>>150472583
i've been saying for years that visual artists are terrible writers.
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>>150473220
Yeah, what they need are pop cutlure references and witty one-liners.
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>>150473177
>Latest animation included literal incest rape
>Still got 1 million views after a month
maybe indie animation isn't attracting the right audiences
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>>150473220
Not that anon but they’re different skills that take a similar time investment to get good, so it’s understandable, but I wonder why more artists don’t team up with writers, is it because neither would want to give up control on the story?
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>>150472958
What did Murphy & Mitzi do to you anon
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>>150473269
I'm surprised there isn't an ecchi style Indie animation with lots of ENF moments with their clothes been torn off like tissue paper
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>>150467977
Karl marx supposed that under capitalism there is a constant contradiction between increasing isolation and increased conformity.
The animator furry is proof of this. In previous eras of america all major animators were straight, white men but due to existing in an earlier less advanced stage of capitalism they had more varied lives.
Meanwhile every animator these days lives the same. Terminally online and plugged into this or that online subculture. Indeed the chud and the animator furry live almost identical lives. Just posting about different things.
All to turn a profit off ads.
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>>150468515
It's crazy that most YTPs from the late 00s and early 10s would get filtered by YouTube now with the new rules they're putting in place
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>>150473177
>>150473269
Source of this?
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>>150473383
also those white men were just better at making toons
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>>150468725
she should do this as she strips before hooking up with you
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>>150468738
>>150468760
I love them all
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>>150472714
Thank you for the great response.
>but ultimately you still need to make the characters enjoyable to watch.
I was going for how the characters in these kinds of animations aren't usually very interesting to watch because they complain about their issues but don't bother improving. I wasn't really sure if if I should fully lean into how unlikeable and annoying those kinds of characters can be or not. I do see how it can be annoying even though it was the point I was going for.
Also, heres the full rough script, hopefully it ties it together a little bit better.
https://files.catbox.moe/w2zjza.txt
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>>150471954
man, this was such a throwback
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>>150473469
If only
>>150473513
Not in my headcanon
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>>150473425
its called Terrible Mouse made by china creator Gutian
https://www.youtube.com/@gutiannn
it literally appeared out of nowhere on this year's January and grew really quickly despite the nature of this series being very not-ad-friendly with all the torture porn, fetishist character design and outright atrocious writing/nonsense plot
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>>150470935
Anon, this is the most surface level critique of the genre. If this is what you have, you are in no position to be making fun of anyone.
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>>150473450
built for slamming into the bed while calling her a fat retarded drop out
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>>150467977
Stop putting this garbage series on this board, LS Marks shitty furry pilot was forgotten about instantly, let this trash be the same thing, you want indie animation to improve? Stop giving this cancer attention
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If you did nothing really interesting in your life you shouldn't be allowed to create a story, or at least write a fanfiction of something you like to iron out your flaws as a writer or maybe do something interesting before you jump to create something that can be called yours.
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>>150467977
>pseudo 90s cartoon style
That’s an insult to fucking 90’s cartoons, she should’ve studied UPA shorts, that’s how we got true flat artstyles in the 90’s like with Dexters Lab and Powerpuff Girls.
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>>150473654
Nah you can do whatever you want with your art
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>>150473298
Cause serious writers would rather work on live action
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It's always the They/Them bitches who want to feel special because she didn't get enough love from her family
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>>150473759
It’s not too late to follow your dreams anon
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>>150471954
God, the voice acting lmao I remember why I never could gaf about any cartoon from youtube back then
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>>150467977
The problem I have with these "pilots" is that they focus too much on the fact that they are a "pilot" instead of being an animation first, like its implying there will be more only if they get support otherwise they will drop dead and never do something with it again if it fails because they have no funds to continue.
It leaves a certain vibe that isn't really natural or passionate, or at least it feel like the creators themselves are confident on their own work.
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>>150473927
>are
aren't
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>>150473003
They're all introverts who hardly ever go outside and constantly get groomed by trannys and Pederests. It makes sense their most common predator is a emotionally abusive gay guy
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>>150473645
It's a shame Kovach's voice is holding me hostage. I have to watch that shit
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>>150473177
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQkUv8jZvw8
>the outright magnificent stickman animation was ignored to zoomer torture porn furry shit
Sad...
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>>150473927
>The problem I have with these "pilots" is that they focus too much on the fact that they are a "pilot".
Aren't pilots supposed to introduce the audience to what the show's all about? I have a problem with pilots that do the opposite, where they just throw you into what might as well be season 3 episode 11 assuming you're just supposed to "get" everything the author envisioned.
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>>150474021
thats the problem with youtube's recommendation system because it really doesn't matter if you are quality incarnate, if you can't produce the thing that gets you views fast enough you will be left in the dust
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>>150468031
>indulging in fantasies is something only retarded children do.
where do you think you are
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>>150474197
The algorithms controls culture in 2025.
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>>150474197
>creates kino
>no one watches it because being good isn't enough
>creates garbage
>everyone watches it and talks about how they want to fix it and how it fucking sucks in its original form
>one gets more recognition and views and even a decent following while the others gets nothing
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>>150470935
After reading the full script I think this would work better as a comic than an animation. Much of the humour works on a before/after contrast aside from the panic attack at the beginning which works better in the panel to panel snappiness of a comic.
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>>150474290
hatewatching is still watching at the end of the day
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>>150473574
This reminds me a lot of old RPG maker horror games with guro elements, specially stuff like Mogeko Castle.
And those things bring back memories i'd rather keep forgotten.
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But why won't (You) do something about it
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>>150474384
Aspie art
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>>150471954
Every animated pilot/student film is now about these sad lesbians.
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>>150473521
Dunno, if a character is unlikeable and you're constantly being reminded that you don't like them, then what's the incentive for you to keep watching, right?
Personally speaking, I found this too spiteful/mean-spirited; not something I myself would want to watch for fun. Everyone sucks and it ends on a downer note.
I feel, if you want to stick it to these types of animations, then you need to "do them right" by your eyes, not "do them the same but emphasizing the bad parts."
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good animation but i can never relate to these plots.
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>>150468031
Fantasy is indulged by children because they are powerless, in a shit world where nothing is to live for, it would be more intensely provocative, not less so.

We're getting trash content because it's built by career socialites for other career socialites. The content is highly specialized and lacks the philosophical depth necessary to make up for the shallow and undynamic premises.
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>>150473042
Wtf is this kubelvagen shit
>Source?
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>>150478562
Its in the name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJyFUV-K8MU
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>>150473574
>>150474866
It sounds more like its this generation's Mr Pickles.
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>>150479605
Mr Pickles is a shock dark comedy
Terrible Mouse wants me to actually take it at face value and follow the plot
They aren't the same at all
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>>150467977
if you relate with these losers then you must a big faggot
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>>150467977
Most indie pilots I see are just two or three of those bullet points.
>furry shit, gay or not
>socially inept losers
>mock 90s animation style
>>sometime set in years before our current time, though it's always set between the 1980s to 2010s
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>>150468725
The square eyes bother me so much that sometimes I think she's wearing glasses when that's just the shape of every characters eyes.
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>>150467977
>>150468031
>they all work shitty jobs at mcdonald's

Plausible deniability, because that's a job where you can have lots of free time and still have income that could explain how these furries can sustain themselves. Sorry if nobody in cartoons has a job with a massive income of $200,000 USD
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>>150480272
Mr Pickles tried to have a plot later
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>>150468725
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>>150468760
Made for pornography actor life
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>>150483572
true
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>>150468885
me with twatter
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>>150468725
These animations look way too clean, did Izzzy or someone who worked on the pilot post these originally?
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>>150470783
No, the only people who would be willing to take this kind of risk necessarily aren’t the most forward thinking or rational. Most sane people want to have a certain level of comfort and security in their life so they avoid unnecessary stress by following the path of least resistance and/or pursuing stable careers. With the economy getting worse and worse more level headed people try and eke out what little they can in a sensible manner to stay afloat while coddled nepo babies can take this “risk” because they have a support structure to catch them.
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>>150470935
Keep revising it
You need to cut deeper
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>>150470783
Pretty sure the normal guys just went to normal school, got normal jobs and get angry when they see Lil Timmy watching Helluva Hotel on his tablet during Daddy's Drinking Time Because his Back is Shot and The Insurance Company are being Pricks Slowballing on the Worker's Comp Lawsuit.
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>>150468031
Based and truth nuke
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>>150473177
>>150473574
I would fuck that mouse thing along the other hospital staff and that alone is enough for me
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>>150473927
I think that pilots should be 2-hour movies and LATER greenlilt in a series
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>>150486519
How will you pay for the 2 hour movie without making a pilot
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>>150486519
That's fucking stupid
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watch mtv's downtown if you wanna see this style done right.
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>>150472172
No reason to differentiate between them, almost all furries are annoying alphabet soup autists.
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>>150476934
You'd be sad too if you were trapped in a sexless relationship with a woman.
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>>150469674
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I'd say go make something bettter yourselves but as Comicsgate proved, y'all can't make shit.
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>>150488081
/co/ would rather destroy itself than create
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>>150483572
Would love to rip their clothes off and humiliate them like >>150473555
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>>150488081
/co/ hasn't really create anything compare to other boards like /a/ Katawa Shoujo or /v/ Snoot Game
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I have never seen anyone talking about this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRbCjvKOAus
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>>150467977
>there's probably a real (underserved) market for content about this life stage
>less experienced writers reflect their own lives onto the art they produce and their lives tend to be boring
>sitcoms may feel more approachable than other genres/story types from a story perspective
>sitcoms might also seem like less work than fantasy/scifi in terms of art development

IME it seems like a sitcom is almost like an artistic stage a lot of artists just need to get through as part of their creative journey. It's developmentally appropriate but perhaps not interesting to a broad audience. I remember being younger and for a hot minute thinking I could totally write a sitcom. I would have chosen a cast about the age of Wastelandia's too; kids, teens and older adults all have the same issue where realistically they are more likely to live with family so the number of characters you need to develop multiplies and I think it's sensible that someone unmarried in their 20s wouldn't feel comfortable writing a family sitcom even if the focus was on the parents. Early 20s is a unique life stage where it's normal for a person to be living alone or with a friend or romantic partner and for their daily lives to orbit around a small core of people that are unrelated. Any other life stage and a sitcom kind of *has* to be a family sitcom.

I'd bring up Office/workplace Comedies as a counterpoint, a setting/genre where you can have a wider age range of adult people constantly interacting with other unrelated adults where spouses and children often aren't a focus but you kind of need to have experience with that sort of employment. A lot of that work has factually dried up, been outsourced or automated or gone remote. Regardless the type of people who'd make something like Wastelandia don't have personal experience working the sort of jobs that lend themselves to workplace comedies.
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>>150467977
Wastelandia if it was good:
https://files.catbox.moe/9zr1o5.mp4
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>>150468031
>>150470956
>>150485054
>>150468860
>>150468703
Fucking kill yourselves. People like you are the reason we have no adventure shows or action shows.
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>>150489685
I swear there a film about a couple of bros getting laid with bunch of girlfailures
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>>150489685
>Made two entire threads about this and posted it here too
This situation couldn't be sadder
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>>150472172
>This was made by tranny furries
Worse, it was made by a they/them.
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I see an awful lot of complaining and absolutely nobody actually making something.
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>>150470783
nigga
>>150470808
“artists” are creatively bankrupt nowadays and are scared of ideas and fantasy indulgence
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>>150489772
I don't use 4chan enough to know what's been posted before.
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>>150467977
Because writers are told to "write what you know," and that's all they know.
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>>150490373
I think that has been destructive advice long term. Most people are boring and live boring lives.
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>>150467977
Because that's the reality of millenial life.
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>>150471416
No because telling history accurately is hate speech.
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It's mostly just that western creatives these days all tend to be the same kind of people.
It's not like the east where you'll find artists and writers whose day jobs are being a salaryman, or a farmer, or a butcher, or an ex-military weirdo, or a physics graduate.
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>>150479605
Mr Pickle would rape Lorna
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>>150473383
Karl Marx is obsolete today.
In Marx's ideology, humans are who made everything, but no today.
I remember my father being surprised when I told him that his laptop was assembled by robots and his clothes were sewn by robots. There are robots who fix the potholes in the streets and robots harvesting fruits, meat and milk in farms
He was sure all that stuff was done by chinese slaves, because that's what everybody had been talking about.
A human can do single task very repeatedly. But they have no flexibility. Even high-end human workers are like that. A human can be taught to do a very simply very repetitive task quickly, but not as precisely and not as much endurance.
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>>150473177
This looks retarded and not in a fun way
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>>150488081
...the comic side of the board actually creates stuff.
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>>150491613
Karl Marx predicted literally everything that's happening right now.
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>>150489685
Bridge kids but with furries
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Some of you anons are really full of it. It's already been said in the thread, but just to repeat and agree, there's nothing stopping anyone from using their spare time to work on creative projects as a hobby. It'll be a lot of work, but plenty of /co/ loves jacking off to the idea of being an artist that does it purely for the sake of art. So if you wanna see something, go make it.
I wanted to see more gay furry stuff, so that's what I make. Yes it's terrible, but that's not the point. I'd agree there's a lot of unexceptional slice of life works being put out, although that might just be what's on the surface. What you're looking for could be buried in the internet somewhere.
I'd be happy to check out any recommendations for furry indie animations that are less comedic and more story-driven. I like scifi, horror, and romance, so that's what I make. When I get around to my next project you faggots better watch my gay furry, scifi, politics cartoon.
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>>150492959
gonna make one of these bad boys but mine will stand out, because they don't work at coffee shop
they work at a uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
jamba juice
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>>150489685
They should be in wastelandia.
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>>150488081
Casualgate was not ours and we rounding disavow it.
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>>150467977

because you aren't paying attention to the ones that aren't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf_-jIiyyD0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1r7QsE_DVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeAqnHywrx8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1r7QsE_DVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdbd2kRSzG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSV7P5Nib2k
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>>150493205
argh, i accidentally posted two of the same video in that previous post

and here's another one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFs2umLydvo
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>>150493232
The Earth Guy has six episodes already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0MEXTmk8VA
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>>150493083
Jokes aside anon, I like coffee shops. If you want to stand out just make an interesting story.
Okay, okay, we can do this. What if they work at a coffee shop, or a jamba juice, whatever you're feeling, but they're all slaves to a demon from bad debts or something. They gotta work off their debt while serving weird, picky, evil corporate people and monsters and whatever. If they get fired they go to hell or something. Women love evil, so we gotta make the demon manager and the patrons all "hot." I'm thinking cat people, vampires, maybe a witch that wears a hijab, there's a lot of options.
The workers struggle to get small victories lick spitting in the coffee or stealing money, or sneaking food.

Alright, you pitch that to CN and let me know if you get the job.
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>>150470783
I thought animation school was a waste of time and that you can learn everything on your own? That’s what /co/ has told me.
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>>150474023
Pilots were initially a proof of concept to show networks your ideas in action. Sometimes they doubled as an episode 1 but not always.
A pilot has nothing to do with introducing an audience to Jack shit. They do that sometimes, but it’s not their purpose.
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>>150468031
I would say try harder, but I guess even this kind of subpar bait is good enough for current /co/ it seems.
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>>150489713
Here’s an action show
https://youtu.be/wIiStrbPHp0
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>>150467977
I want to make something like this but I keep changing my vision. Sometimes it's a sitcom, sometimes it's wannabe avant garde, sometimes it's the next homestuck.
I wish I was a normie-ish gay furry. All I have in life is maladaptive daydreaming and anonymous imageboards. I can't hold a basic conversation online unless I'm anonymous.
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It's just an inferior Kitty Bobo
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>>150468760
Kill the tranny rabbit
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>>150474290
That is it. It is all about their egos, they want to be full of themselves which is why they watch shit to nitpick and "fix" it
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>>150468031
Show us your favorite Bolaño novel.
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>>150493376
Looks like it’s made by weebs, but I’m cautiously optimistic.
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What if GI Joe but racist?

>The Supremacists

>a gallery of six racist superheroes (Supermensch, Eternal Dot Anglo, Vlad II, Awestralia, Blitzkrieger, and El General) given to them by the Almighty Whitey of Hyperborea in the service of killing all niggers, kikes and queers
>recieve instructions on their latest mission by a Zordon-like tube head of George Lincoln Rockwell
>they drive around in a mobile command center called The Hate Bus and take Swastikopters (helicopter pods, but it's a big blade in the middle made of a swastika) to the scene of the weekly niggatry
>face supervillains such as the traitorous Lt. Hon Hon Hong, the Eye of Jap, and their most powerful foe, the Eternal Jew, an immortal shapeshifting

"To Me! My Supremacists!"
"Speak and we appear, Mr. Rockwell."
"Query: What is the latest act of villainy afoot?"
"There's a bunch of NIGGERS in Detroit being a bunch of NIGGERS!"
"Pshaw, I's remember them 80s song what said Detroit's a shoinin' gem of the Midwest, roight? What cunts fahcked it up, then?"
"Another machination of The Enternal Jew, Awestralia. But we shall rectify this slight. For White Pride!"
>*they all raise a rallying Roman Salute together*
"WORLDWIDE!"
>reused footage of the Hate Bus and Swastikopters rocketing off to the latest battle, following five minutes of them violently beating ghetto blacks to death with poppy 80s music and lyrics about 'kill all the niggers! (real americans kill niggers on fucking sight~) YOU GOTTA KILL ALL THE NIGGEEEERS! (Don't let a single coon survive your AR-15 sights)"

>end lesson where they teach racism to young white boys "Now I Notice it Too/ And Noticing is Half the Battle!"
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>>150474290
Looking over at the video reviews talking about terrible mouse told me everything I need to know about why it got millions of views in the first place (apart of "it sucks lets fix it mentality") and that apparently theres nostalgia for shocking content.
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>>150467977
Undertale and all your other zoomer favorites helped normalized furfaggotry on the internet unironically. As for the rest it's just dredged up from three points that indie creators never diverge from.
>Write what you know (and make sure the themes are things you don't)
>Everything must be stuper duper unique and STYLE MUH STYLE STYLE STYLE
>Always be heckin relatable!

This results in a constant churning out of furry loser junk. I mean look at the name for fuck's sake. "Wastelandia". Where the fuck is the wasteland? Nowehere. It's just a shallow attempt to sound reminiscent of shows that actually had thought put into them from back in the day. Though I suppose "Furry apartment retards" wouldn't have evoked that spirit and would've actually communicated what the show is: Shallow slop made by a sheltered 20 something who's never finished a book in their lives, with an artstyle about as appealing as animal crossing thrown through a glass pane factory.
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>They/Them female
Of course
Because the most annoying bitches always go with the They/Them shitstick
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>>150489685
> if it was good
anon...
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>>150494921
Adult Swim made Minoriteam and it was functionally just this but more based on cheap marvel cartoons and capeshit instead of GI Joe spoofing. Adult Swim doesn't acknowledge that they ever made it, probably for a good reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2ryGG2B2rY
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>>150471578
> Animating is a lot of (not so hard) work
Wut
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>>150496619
Idgi, it's literally wastelandia if it was good.
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>>150497683
It takes so long your erection goes down in the process
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>>150497683
Its better when you let others do the heavy lifting for you, like how Izzzy and LSmark did with their pilots
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>>150470817
Have you tried to fucking make a cartoon yourself nigger faggot?

You have to fucking have training to know what the fuck you want to do let soone do it well and Calarts not only gatekeeps via insanely high tuition but also by banning anyone not left of Mai from mentoring and internships and the Calarts good old boys network, where the password is Kill all transphobia and the handshake involves mining Charlie Kirk's murder.
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>>150496310
As long they have ovaries then they are getting breeded
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>>150467977
Animation is expensive and drawing action is hard.
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>>150472172
No one wants your gay furry shit, furfaggot. Yiff in hell & please kys.
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>>150470673
>cartoon sex
Because it was the only good thing to come from YouTube back in the day. Hot cartoon girls is the only reason why I even tolerate ugly animation by westerners. This is why the Japs are beating you at your own game.

Cartoon tits or GTFO
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>>150473423
It started with COPPA & went to shit from there. Normalfag & nigger parents were letting their kids watch shit on the Internet without a care. That's why 1/3rd of zoomers identifying as faggots. They were exposed to porn at a young age. Now they identify as LGBT degens.

Again all thanks to normalfags.
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>>150496310
Anyone who puts pronouns in their bio should be put on a list.
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>>150492959
>streaming service
No fun allowed
>payment processors
No fun allowed
>YouTube
No fun allowed
>western art sites
No fun allowed
>credit card companies
No fun allowed

Goyims are not allowed to compete against their Jewish masters. Wake me up when I can make a cartoon that shows cute sexy lolis & big tit sexy girls with violence & racism overtones without getting flagged or demonized. Until then, you will never see my idea come into fruitation.
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>>150467977
This problem existed before indie pilots, it's always been a thing in the indie comic scene. A lot of women (and woman-brained men) with art degrees are just making comics as a form of autobiographical therapy since they don't really know what to do with their lives other than broadcast how they're a basket case, justify blowing so much money on a career that isn't financially stable, and write feminine domestic mundane narratives (these are not inherently bad, but they're prone to being abused by selfishness). They do nothing in their lives, and then whine about how nothing ever happens and that it's always someone else's fault that their life sucks.

You are what you expose yourself to. The best artists go out and experience new things and never stop trying. Go visit a museum. Go for a walk. Learn to meditate. Read a good book from a genre you don't usually enjoy. Get obsessed with a different culture's history or religion or mythos. Pick up a certification/trade.

If "nothing ever happens" then make something happen.
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>>150493205
>>150493232
>>150493250
Better keep those ready to post again when this thread archives and OP makes this again.
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>>150473177
That's the fault of youtube. Most of those who knows the fuck they're doing always post it on NewGrounds.
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>>150470808
Everyone thinks they can write Clerks or Seinfeld but don't have a sense of humor.
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>>150493205
Anything that's not furshit or girlboss shit?
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>>150473178
KH 1 is good the duck are you on
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>>150467977
Dogs Who Think is better
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>>150473177
All I learned from this series is that shock content, "sexy" bait and droplets of lore is what gets people talking, regardless of the "quality" within that content.
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>>150489685
>dude who even is that guy?
>I dunno, I was high as fuck!
Kek
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>>150474384
shmorky did it 100x better
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>>150503715
And look where that got him
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>>150468760
Forcefully make out and shove your tongue into the rabbit's mouth and stretch her asshole til it's unusable and when it's all done call her a good girl
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>>150468738
They/Them?
Well I would like to see Them Titties.
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>>150505026
I would like to see sexy art of all of them, but especially them
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>>150505124
You ain't getting shit btw
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>>150505371
You saying?
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=14778146&tags=moth_%28wastelandia%29
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>>150505586
>only one
Should have post 3 of them
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=14685734&tags=wastelandia
Also this >>150473555
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>>150494921
while i was in jail a few months ago i had an idea for a show.
> GI DOE
>imagine a cross between drunk history and team america world police, with superjail levels of gore and slapstick
>nonfiction cartoon about historical warcrimes and other misdeeds committed by america and allies
>starring GI john doe, the protagonist and secret agent who gets farmed out to that episodes' military
>takes orders from spy handler, a guy who looks like a cross between g-man and neo cortex
>each episode features a guest animator
>animator has large influence over story, but still must follow whatever the historical reality was
>john doe is irredeemably racist, sexist, homophobic, and a bisexual rapist/chomo
>john doe is explicitly a terrible person but always wins in the end and is celebrated regardless
>will frequently commit heinous acts in comical ways
>leaves partner forces out to dry, escaping as they get massacred
>betrays his own allies out of sheer laziness, never gets punished
>end of the episode briefly goes over facts related to the true events
>GI doe based loosely on vietnam era special forces
>main weapons are knife, 1911, and various bombs
>prefers subterfuge and trickery over direct conflict but still gets bloody often
>will only use large weapons if stolen from an enemy or if story demands it
>never emotes, permanent scowl, only grunts
>behaves like silent protagonist in that he blindly follows orders no matter how ridiculous
>people always talk at him, never acknowledging his silence
>bad guys are all racist caricatures who look exactly the same (eg. every arab terrorist will use the same character of generic muslim guy with turban and beard)
>childish terminology like bad guys, good guys, army guys, brown people, a-rabs, etc.



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