Disney XD almost got its own Adult Swim type animation block until corporate pussied out
>we made such total shit that even in this wasteland it was rejectedWhy would you admit this?
wonder what they had in development, the idea of a Disney [as]-equivalent has my curiosity piqued
>>150468349So, would we have gotten a "Mickey Mouse Adult Party Cartoon"? I’m interested in how that would’ve played out
>>150468373Not what he was sayingHe is saying that Disney was not ready for adult animation under its core brand name>In this wasteland (implying recent)Oh you didn't read
>>150468349Pretty sure that weird gamer block they had around 2017-ish was their second plan after this fell though.
>>150468373kek, though more likely it was rejected because it'd be extremely off-brand for disney
>>150468457I'll decide for myself what this piece of shit was saying. >2011>not recentYou fucking retard.
>>150468349>Grunkle Stan Coast 2 Coast>Mickey Teen Hunger Force>The Tom Lucitor Show>Fish Hooks 2021
>>150468600If it's before the majority of /co/ was born, it's not recent.
>>150468600>14 years ago >RecentLol
>>150468349They could have done what Hub and Teen Nick did and make a late night nostalgia block. Play Disney Afternoon stuff at 11PM to 2AM and that wold have woorked.Wold have been an interesting thing when Hub was playing G1 Transformers and GI:Joe, while Teen Nick was playing Doug, Rugrats, and Ren and Stimpy.
To be honest, it was probably not going to be "adult" junk but another nostalgia block for adults...>>X-Men the Animated Series>>Spiderman the Animated Series >>OG DuckTales>>Darkwing Duck and the rest of the Disney afternoon blockAlong with say, shelling out cash for Power Rangers reruns and maybe GI Joe and Transformers related shows
>>150468457>2011We didn't know how much worse it all would get...
Would it have been better to have an late night Adult Swim-esque block, or would you still keep the timeline where Alex Hirsch and Friends played chicken with the censors to get what they wanted on-air?
>>150468819Better. The shows could have been what they deserved. Gravity Falls could've been weirder and Motor City and Tron: Legacy would have gone crazy with a higher age rating.
>>150468875I think gravity falls benefitted from being forced to be more kiddy. Honestly they should’ve tried to get Disney to let them do a late night spot after Kimmel on abc
>>150468757see now i'd watch that.
>>150468600Are you a time traveler anon. Because it's 2025.
>>150468701wtf would a disney nostalgia block even be?: aladdin, little mermaid , hercules tvshow rteruns?
>>150468457none of which was even made by Disney lmao.
>>150468875A teen/YA block would be smart, but Disney wants anime to win
For a period, during nighttime, Disney XD aired nothing but those twitch/game streamers. From like 12 to 3 or 4, and then it'd go back to gravity falls or amphibia or something.I liked Parker Plays, but that other one with the multiple streamers was annoying as shit with its sound effects.
>>150468637>>Grunkle Stan Coast 2 Coast>>Mickey Teen Hunger ForceVGH... VVHAT COVLD HAVE BEEN...
Disney can't into adult entertainment, really. There's a reason why they have subsidiaries to handle those demographics. Hell, Disney cannot even into young boy entertainment. They're basically a company for girls and women.
>>150469970a "young adult" block from disney would just be more femoid-written melodrama slop.disney making their own adult swim would be interesting but they'd never do it because disney doesn't want its name associated with shows that aren't innocuous crap
>>150468349>>150468457What stopping them now? You can watch outlander on Disney plus. Every season has at least one graphic rape scene.,
>>150469963They still allow Deadpool, Family Guy, and Simpsons to be made under their auspice, probably because they kept the Fox labeling and keep it separate from the main Disney brand.
>>150470119That’s why, it’s a middle ground where they can both shill melodrama and court slightly more adult stuff without breaking the brand.
>With Nick at Night expandingNick at Night fucking sucks ass though, it's literally worse than Disney because it doesn't even air experimental edgy stuff every 1/3rd of the time like Adult Swim it airs FRIENDS reruns, TV-PG family sitcom slop "For adults." With no cartoons BECAUSE CARTOONS ARE FOR BABIES SO WHAT ADULT WOULD WATCH THAT. + What if "Da kidz" were watching late? They'd be traumatized for life! So gotta keep it bland.The sheer fact that's the case tells you that only Adult Swim truly exists not Nick at Night which is just a fake adult block.
>>150469970Disney is dipping into the anime industry now so they're no longer even really competing against anime, they're producing it for their own platform.
>>150470189They've got some fujo bait Alice in Wonderland series next month + Star Wars vision volume 3 so ya we'll probably start seeing more and more.
An "adult" block would probably be slightly edgier stuff honestly
>>150470211No I mean they are producing legit anime, not western projects done by anime studios, but full on Japanese series adapted from Japanese source material. Like, they had Daimakyo Tengoku and Summertime Render as Disney+ exclusives in recent years. Very nice, high budget shows that are way more mature than anything I would have expected from a Disney+ show.
>>150468349They keep trying to capture this nonexistent kid audience when older teens and adults are the ones asking for something decent.
>>150470171a middle ground isn't really the point though, the spirit of adult swim is airing content that simply isn't appropriate for the kids' block
>>150470258Are those ever going to be on D+ in the US? Just checked and Summertime rendering isn't
>>150470258Let me guess, it has mandatory niggertrannyfication
>>150470276Yeah, and I said a YA block would be smart for them because they don’t want an adult swim block.
>>150468349I'm thinking the edgiest they'd go for would be a show like Daria.
>>150470273>They keep trying to capture this nonexistent kid audience when older teens and adults are the ones asking for something decent.It's interesting how the child-market has shrunk so much over the past several years.
>>150468457why not just use the buena vista name
>>150470522Wages someone can start a family on are an impediment to the line going up.
>>150468349I mean.....I sort of get it?Gotta maintain that squeaky clean Thomas Kinkade painting WASP type appeal
>>150470872Disney stopped caring about that after the cat ladies and male feminists took over.
>>150470992they just switched from pandering to bland WASP ned flanders to bland WASP liberals
>>150468349>create fake buzz to increase didney street cred from being safe baby slop>amounts to nothing anyway*yawn*as always, disney bad
>>150470175They had it better back in the 80’s and 90’s airing a bigger variety of shows from different generations. Even then, they were still more for general audiences than an outright adult block so yeah.Honestly, I’d really love a revamp of the block to either have older programming from Nick or shows that were less than appropriate for the 6-11 crowd because I don’t want two overrated as fuck sitcoms taking up the schedule.
remember when they produced shows like Gargoyles?
>>150468349I met with Todd Redner (Designer on Aqua Teen) for a online call a few days ago where he talked about the industry, he briefly mentioned a pitch to Disney XD which started as an "animal hospital" show but then became a show about the moon with all girls on it. I wonder if that was for this
>>150470175Thanks, Peggy Charren.
An adult block handled by Disney sounds like it'd be extremely lame. They'd never match the sheer amount of fucks not given of early Adult Swim.
>>150468457Didn't DisneyLand used to have a bars for the adults with alcohol and some naughtier dance numbers or comedians? Why did Disney ditch the "Whole Family"-idea for "Kids and Disney Adults"?
>>150471573They didn't. They're trying to pull back on adult oriented stuff because>Parents will take their kids out of a sense of "obligation">Disney adults were actively damaging the park's reputation by being public nuisances. Surprisingly, rowdy high school seniors and college students get up to stupid shit.Remember, for all the sexual harassment that the women receive. The Gaston actor started receiving significantly more in a line that directly correlates with how much of a meme the character became and how popular that particular actor got in viral videos and tiktok edits.
>>150471642>They're trying to pull back on adult oriented stuffThey just opened 2 bars in disney world parks this year
>>150471573Club 33>>150468349>>150468412>>150468390It would have likely been called either "Station 33" or "New World"
>>150471655I stand corrected>>150468701I could see that working, but the problem is that depends on the time slot.A good late night block focuses>9-11pm: oriented towards adults who are actually up and about in the working world>Midnight onward: Oriented to college kids who are up to the late hours of the night and likely coming home stoned in one way or another.The stuff you mentioned would be nostalgic to a crowd who are in their mid 30s at the youngest right now. The latter parts of a night block need to be oriented to people who don't have to get up to work in the morning and even night shift workers likely won't be relevant until you get to 5-6 so they can't make up for the loss of college students.This is how Adult Swim has done it for decades now.
>>150471794>Didn't DisneyLand used to have a bars for the adults with alcohol and some naughtier dance numbers or comedians?Club 33 is Disney super-duper-secret invitation-only elite club. The thing that >>150471573 was probably thinking of was Pleasure Island.Yes, I was shocked to learn that the gag from that episode of The Simpsons was an actual thing, including the theme bars and "let's celebrate New Year every night" thing.https://youtu.be/6a-AMdG3Rq0
>>150471573>Why did Disney ditch the "Whole Family"-idea for "Kids and Disney Adults"?Blame Bob Iger. He's the one that got obsessed with making Disney a monolith early in his reign. That meant ditching anything that wouldn't "fit the brand", including racier shows in the theme parks or shutting down Touchstone as a brand.We should consider ourselves lucky that, as of late, he's left a free hand on former-Fox properties such as FX.
>>150468457Disney>We want the older teen gen z demographicAlso Disney>WHAT THE FUCK?! I can’t air this shit, It’ll kill muh brand…haha!
>>150472492Who else was in the running for Eisner's replacement, anyway? Can't imagine them being more retarded than Iger.
>>150468390I mean they own so much now they could easily fill up and entire late block.>It would be as simple as airing FG and The Simpsons first thing, like how Adult Swim did with King of the Hill>Air a bunch of anime like they now have on Disney+, there, now they have that sweet teenage Gen Z demographic they always wanted.>Air the more adult movies of the past. The most obvious would of course be Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Deadpool, fuck, you could even air Pulp Fiction because they technically own that, or Clerks!>Do the unthinkable and fund original adult shows. I know that’s like wishing for a million bucks but that’s how AS became so big.
>>150472820>Who else was in the running for Eisner's replacement, anyway?Nobody. Eisner was pushed aside after Roy Disney led a shareholders' coup, which made the board lose confidence in his rule as CEO. If Roy hadn't pushed for Eisner's ouster, he'd probably still be there.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_E._Disney#Second_%22Save_Disney%22_campaign_(2003%E2%80%932005)Iger was a holdover from the acquisition of ABC, meaning it was the only one in the company with anything resembling experience in such a role.There's a whole book about it. It's a great read.
>>150472979And now that he's gone the company is even worse
>>150472979>he'd probably still be there.How much better or worse off would Disney be in that case?
>>150468457>>150472718The boardroom was freaking out when they finally learned they had acquired the rights to air the mildly violent Power Rangers series on after buying up Fox Family.
>>150472851>Air a bunch of anime like they now have on Disney+, there, now they have that sweet teenage Gen Z demographic they always wanted.Except most of what I've seen of that is licensed via FUNI to Hulu
>>150468349>original tv-14 to ma shows on Disney XDMan that would be strange.
Duh. Those pussies are deathly afraid of ruining their squeaky clean image, despite being run by greedy pricks.
Do children watch shows anymore?
>>150473050In my opinion, worse. While he and Katzenberg undoubtedly rescued the company in the 80s, Eisner was increasingly becoming Macbeth during his later years as CEO. To cite part of the list of grievances:>too much micromanagement within the studio,>flops with the ABC television network>the company's growing timidity in the theme park business>Eisner's refusal to establish a clear succession plan>the studio releasing a string of box-office movie failures starting in the year 2000, such as The Emperor's New Groove and Treasure Planet>well-publicized distribution disputes with long-time production partner Pixar Animation Studios and its CEO Steve Jobs, with whom Disney had produced such animated feature film hits as Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Monsters, Inc., and Finding Nemo, which were critically acclaimed and financially successful for both partners.Iger's biggest sin is turning Disney into Google, using its war stash to buy other companies (Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar, Fox) instead of innovating from within. Related to that latter point, there's also the ossification of the existing properties with those puke-inducing live action remakes.
Why is Disney so scared of doing anything "adult"? It's the only company that seems obsessed with that
>>150473308Too risky.
>>150473302Nah. They just play Rob-blocks and Fortnight, with some Tick-Tock videos here and there.
>>150468349>>150468457I like Matt Danner, he's so based and made kino
>>150473308>Why is Disney so scared of doing anything "adult"?See >>150472492.
>>150473308After 100 years spent cultivating generational obsessions worldwide with the safe nostalgia of a family friendly magic kingdom they are afraid to fuck with the brand too much. Disney customers are as vocal and entitled as they are diehard.
>>150473430Nah, Disney was doing well-enough with Pleasure Island and other mature-themed entertainment. It's Iger the one that steered the whole thing into not taking any risks whatsoever.https://youtu.be/1yoyb5ENVH0
>>150468349Fascinating.
>>150468349ROBBED
>>150468757Kind of reminds me of Qubo-Night-Owl>Aired Filmations He-Man, She-Ra and Bravestarr>Rescue Rangers>Clash of the Titans>Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd CenturyQubo as a whole was weird because they were airing a mixture of childrens cartoons, shit from the 80's, 90's and 2000's and PBS-tier programming. I don't think anything they aired was ever still in production and not just something that ended and Qubo purchasing airing rights
>>150468349Damn
>>150473516Yeah, and it’s been less than a century since Steamboat Willie, but that’s the rationale behind the brand narrative today.
>>150468349What Disney execs expected>A block featuring a bunch of older cartoons and movies that only millenials and their parents would care to watch.What they likely got>I TURNED MYSELF INTO A MICKEY, MORTY! I'M MICKEY RICK! CLUBBA LUBBA HOTDOG!
>we now return to Donald Duck cartoon on Disney-At-Nite
>>150478913In 2011?
>>150468349I've wondered for years why Nickelodeon doesn't make an Adult Swim competitor.
>>150479045>So in this episode Goofy wants a pet bunny, but Donald buys him a snake instead, and then Goofy tries to staple bunny ears to the snake to turn it into a rabbit, and>Get the hell out of my office
>>150471573They had Pleasure Island in the early 90s that was a few clubs and bars. But overall Epcot is the adult place since it has the food and wine festival that no kid wants to be a part of,
>>150473050Eisner was great in the late 80s and early 90s since tv was his area and he managed to make Disney a force in tv production. But by the early 00s he was slipping and making some bad decisions. It took Pixar to save Disney in the 00s.
>>150468373I don't think it had anything to do with the quality, Disney has famously been hesitant to put their name behind anything that might taint their family friendly image.
>>150473516>>150479931A place called that with that sign just looks like a cartoon themed strip club.
>>150479061They made a 90s flashback block from goodnight to 3AM on Teen Nick around 2011-ish.
>>150468600Anon that was more than ten years ago. I was in sixth grade in 2011, and I've been out of college for several years now.
>>150468349Honestly if they just got in the same range as Runaway Brain or Redux Riding Hood that'd be fine. Although the 2013 Mickey Mouse got pretty close.
>>150468457>2011>nevermind all they edgy adult or mature shit they made priorBob Iger is a fucking retard ololol
>>150468457How about you don't do fucking "humor" at all and make something sincere instead?
>>150481668He didThree Caballeros was the most sincere and straightforward animated show in ages
